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    New England at Indianapolis (11/04/2007)

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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 4:25 AM ET #176

    hehe... ts... i don't know how you decide to bet on games... obviously all based on heart... but i do try to actually analyze the game and break it down... and until i knew the status of Harrison, this game was very up in the air... i had assumed he would be a go, because the guy has been an ironman his entire career... but it doesn't look like he will... and that changes things dramatically...
     
    besides, i never saw the point of betting on this game, when betting on the Chargers to roll against Minnesota looks so much easier...
     
    once again... you are all talk, and it gets old... mortgage your house and put your money on the Pats and buy a new house Monday if you are so sure of it all... there is no doubt this game can go either way, and i don't bet on games just to have action... i will be plenty content to watch this one...
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    hehe... ts... i don't know how you decide to bet on games... obviously all based on heart... but i do try to actually analyze the game and break it down... and until i knew the status of Harrison, this game was very up in the air... i had assumed he would be a go, because the guy has been an ironman his entire career... but it doesn't look like he will... and that changes things dramatically...
     
    besides, i never saw the point of betting on this game, when betting on the Chargers to roll against Minnesota looks so much easier...
     
    once again... you are all talk, and it gets old... mortgage your house and put your money on the Pats and buy a new house Monday if you are so sure of it all... there is no doubt this game can go either way, and i don't bet on games just to have action... i will be plenty content to watch this one...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 4:28 AM ET #177

    ds, that is...
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    ds, that is...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 4:37 AM ET #178

    good post, Patsgrl... like i always say, not all Pats fans are douchebags... you are living proof...
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    good post, Patsgrl... like i always say, not all Pats fans are douchebags... you are living proof...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 5:10 AM ET #179

    Here's a public service announcement- fade cocknocker's NFL picks. Always.
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    Here's a public service announcement- fade cocknocker's NFL picks. Always.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 6:37 AM ET #180

    forgot one crucial part of the breakdown...
     
    the ultimate key to the game will be the Colts ability or inability to put pressure on Brady with their blitz... and they will need to throw in the blitz frequently... and before all the Pats fanatics say "nobody has been able to put pressure on him all year", i know that... that's why it is they key... but the Pats have not faced a team with a pass rush close to this, and they have also not faced a team that committed to blitzing... the Colts will need to get a couple of TOs (especially with Harrison out), and getting pressure on Brady will allow them to do that...
     
    if Freeney and Mathis force him to get rid of it early, the Colts have a great chance... if they can't do that, they scarcely have a chance...
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    forgot one crucial part of the breakdown...
     
    the ultimate key to the game will be the Colts ability or inability to put pressure on Brady with their blitz... and they will need to throw in the blitz frequently... and before all the Pats fanatics say "nobody has been able to put pressure on him all year", i know that... that's why it is they key... but the Pats have not faced a team with a pass rush close to this, and they have also not faced a team that committed to blitzing... the Colts will need to get a couple of TOs (especially with Harrison out), and getting pressure on Brady will allow them to do that...
     
    if Freeney and Mathis force him to get rid of it early, the Colts have a great chance... if they can't do that, they scarcely have a chance...
     
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    This will be a great weekend to watch the NFL only because my Dolphins have a bye this week and I don't have to watch highlights on ESPN to see how they lost their game again.

    This match up will be like watching the Super Bowl in November.

    Good luck to both the Pats & Colts fans
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    This will be a great weekend to watch the NFL only because my Dolphins have a bye this week and I don't have to watch highlights on ESPN to see how they lost their game again.

    This match up will be like watching the Super Bowl in November.

    Good luck to both the Pats & Colts fans
     
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    Guiysthere is far too much juvenile BS going on here.  As I havre soia dmany times - please sitick to the games, drop the teenage macho bulls-t and offer some handicapaping advice.  Nobody wants to hear all these opinions and smack talk and where the poublic money is, we can get that in plenty of other places.  We are here to breakdown the games as I did days ago, as GoG amnd maybe 2 or 3 otrhers have as well.  And why it always tjhe same guys in the sh-t storms, like dsummer, tsjerome, that whole little clique?  Guys grow up please and sapare us.
     
    Now back to the game.  As I stated above when Brady gets hit he gets rattled easily, as does Peyton.  My Steelers punded Manning in the playoffs two ytears ago and he was shaking like a leaf the whole second half.  And we all know that missed field goal only mattered because the ref's totally blew that interception Polamalu made, giving the ball back to the cplts and leading to a TD that would not have happened 19 out of 20 times.  The trick is actually hitting these guys.   This game is siummed up in two words - pressure, and balance.  I belive the Colts will put enough pressure to disrupt NE's offense.  Maybe even dump the Boy Scout on his a-- a couple of times.  The Colts have serios speed on D, they are physical, and they have Bob Sanders.  Balance - the Colts have a balanced offense, the Pats have the air attack.  This is the week they see how much they miss Dillon.  And sanyone who thinks the POat's 8-0 is anywhere nar as meaningful as the Colts' 7-0, you shoul;d stop wagering and just gove me your money.  Loook at whoo NE has played, look at that pathetic division.  meanwhile the Colts have swept the three road games in the toughest division in the league arguably.  Lastly, I am getting six points at home.  I am up over 30k just on NFL this year, about 84 for all sports since Florida killed OSU in the football title game.  So my picks have merit, I dont f around and I dont base plays on BS trends por pub;lic money.  I handicap matchup's and angl;es and over 23 years am always around 68-69%.  Those of you who have followed my posts this year know this - i.e. Indy, SD, Pitt and NE last week, NE, Dallas and Indy the week before, KC, Jax and NYG the week before that, etc.  That said this play on Indy will only be 1 or 2 g's, nothing huge, so that gives you an idea of my level of strength on this play.
     
    For larger plays this weekend I suggest taking a  look at Wash, Dallas, Titans, and as always Pittsburgh who will go to 6-2 ATS come Monday night.
     
    Good Luck to all who take this seriously and don't make stupid personal comments to others.
     
     
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    Guiysthere is far too much juvenile BS going on here.  As I havre soia dmany times - please sitick to the games, drop the teenage macho bulls-t and offer some handicapaping advice.  Nobody wants to hear all these opinions and smack talk and where the poublic money is, we can get that in plenty of other places.  We are here to breakdown the games as I did days ago, as GoG amnd maybe 2 or 3 otrhers have as well.  And why it always tjhe same guys in the sh-t storms, like dsummer, tsjerome, that whole little clique?  Guys grow up please and sapare us.
     
    Now back to the game.  As I stated above when Brady gets hit he gets rattled easily, as does Peyton.  My Steelers punded Manning in the playoffs two ytears ago and he was shaking like a leaf the whole second half.  And we all know that missed field goal only mattered because the ref's totally blew that interception Polamalu made, giving the ball back to the cplts and leading to a TD that would not have happened 19 out of 20 times.  The trick is actually hitting these guys.   This game is siummed up in two words - pressure, and balance.  I belive the Colts will put enough pressure to disrupt NE's offense.  Maybe even dump the Boy Scout on his a-- a couple of times.  The Colts have serios speed on D, they are physical, and they have Bob Sanders.  Balance - the Colts have a balanced offense, the Pats have the air attack.  This is the week they see how much they miss Dillon.  And sanyone who thinks the POat's 8-0 is anywhere nar as meaningful as the Colts' 7-0, you shoul;d stop wagering and just gove me your money.  Loook at whoo NE has played, look at that pathetic division.  meanwhile the Colts have swept the three road games in the toughest division in the league arguably.  Lastly, I am getting six points at home.  I am up over 30k just on NFL this year, about 84 for all sports since Florida killed OSU in the football title game.  So my picks have merit, I dont f around and I dont base plays on BS trends por pub;lic money.  I handicap matchup's and angl;es and over 23 years am always around 68-69%.  Those of you who have followed my posts this year know this - i.e. Indy, SD, Pitt and NE last week, NE, Dallas and Indy the week before, KC, Jax and NYG the week before that, etc.  That said this play on Indy will only be 1 or 2 g's, nothing huge, so that gives you an idea of my level of strength on this play.
     
    For larger plays this weekend I suggest taking a  look at Wash, Dallas, Titans, and as always Pittsburgh who will go to 6-2 ATS come Monday night.
     
    Good Luck to all who take this seriously and don't make stupid personal comments to others.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 9:52 AM ET #183

    have been hearing rumors that Ugoh is out for this game... don't know if that's true, but if it is... OUCH!  another major loss for Indy... 2 of the guys they could ill afford to lose for this game... hoping it isn't true...
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    have been hearing rumors that Ugoh is out for this game... don't know if that's true, but if it is... OUCH!  another major loss for Indy... 2 of the guys they could ill afford to lose for this game... hoping it isn't true...
     
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    Bookies have been getting their asses handed to them all year on the Pats. This week they get some back. Indy rolls over Pats in the dome. Take the moneyline at +220, or better. I took some today, will wait and see where the line goes tomorrow before gametime. May take the points tomorrow and some more moneyline, just to be on the safe side, regardless, this will be a huge play for me and a great game. I've got two words for the Pats and their fans:
     
    Bob Sanders................
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    Bookies have been getting their asses handed to them all year on the Pats. This week they get some back. Indy rolls over Pats in the dome. Take the moneyline at +220, or better. I took some today, will wait and see where the line goes tomorrow before gametime. May take the points tomorrow and some more moneyline, just to be on the safe side, regardless, this will be a huge play for me and a great game. I've got two words for the Pats and their fans:
     
    Bob Sanders................
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 11:18 AM ET #185

    GoG these injuries are starting to become a realistic concern, not changing my play yet.  Appreciate the info.
     
    Charlielo55, I totally agree, I meant to add that in my analysis and reason for taking Indy.
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    GoG these injuries are starting to become a realistic concern, not changing my play yet.  Appreciate the info.
     
    Charlielo55, I totally agree, I meant to add that in my analysis and reason for taking Indy.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 11:22 AM ET #186

    Quote Originally Posted by charlielo55:

    Bookies have been getting their asses handed to them all year on the Pats. This week they get some back. Indy rolls over Pats in the dome. Take the moneyline at +220, or better. I took some today, will wait and see where the line goes tomorrow before gametime. May take the points tomorrow and some more moneyline, just to be on the safe side, regardless, this will be a huge play for me and a great game. I've got two words for the Pats and their fans:
     
    Bob Sanders................

     

    You have me convinced now, I'm going to sell my house and put everything on Indy. Do you really think Bob Sanders is the key to the game? You're insane buddy......

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlielo55:

    Bookies have been getting their asses handed to them all year on the Pats. This week they get some back. Indy rolls over Pats in the dome. Take the moneyline at +220, or better. I took some today, will wait and see where the line goes tomorrow before gametime. May take the points tomorrow and some more moneyline, just to be on the safe side, regardless, this will be a huge play for me and a great game. I've got two words for the Pats and their fans:
     
    Bob Sanders................

     

    You have me convinced now, I'm going to sell my house and put everything on Indy. Do you really think Bob Sanders is the key to the game? You're insane buddy......

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 12:22 PM ET #187

    Quick note:
    Some, or most of the Pats success this year has been big pass plays right?? i.e. Moss.   Indy D leads the league in giving up the fewest 20+ yd plays.
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    Quick note:
    Some, or most of the Pats success this year has been big pass plays right?? i.e. Moss.   Indy D leads the league in giving up the fewest 20+ yd plays.
     
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    Add on, this season they have only given up 7 20+ yd plays while the rest of the league is in the double digits, and 2 40+ yd plays

    go blue
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    Add on, this season they have only given up 7 20+ yd plays while the rest of the league is in the double digits, and 2 40+ yd plays

    go blue
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueglass79:

    Quick note:
    Some, or most of the Pats success this year has been big pass plays right?? i.e. Moss.   Indy D leads the league in giving up the fewest 20+ yd plays.

     

    For the most part they played this way so that they could protec t their already injured RB lineup. They have had a lot of success using Welker so what you state may be true but is not the key part of their game. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueglass79:

    Quick note:
    Some, or most of the Pats success this year has been big pass plays right?? i.e. Moss.   Indy D leads the league in giving up the fewest 20+ yd plays.

     

    For the most part they played this way so that they could protec t their already injured RB lineup. They have had a lot of success using Welker so what you state may be true but is not the key part of their game. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 7:53 PM ET #190

    i imagine Welker will be a big part of their offense this week... they are built to create matchup problems, and against the Colts, the matchup problem is with Welker more than anyone else... Watson is also key...
    i still have a gut feeling the Colts will play inspired ball and somehow pull it out... without Harrison it's hard to see how their offense can do all the things they like to do... but if the defense can hold them in check and force some FGs and a couple of key TOs, it's not that crazy to think...

    Sanders will be the key, of course... he is a play-maker, and has a way of being in the right place at the right time... we'll see if he can pull a rabbit out of his hat...

    due to the injury situations (unless something changes) i am forced to lay off of this game and watch... unless i throw together a parlay or teaser just for fun... definitely gonna be one seriously intense game...
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    i imagine Welker will be a big part of their offense this week... they are built to create matchup problems, and against the Colts, the matchup problem is with Welker more than anyone else... Watson is also key...
    i still have a gut feeling the Colts will play inspired ball and somehow pull it out... without Harrison it's hard to see how their offense can do all the things they like to do... but if the defense can hold them in check and force some FGs and a couple of key TOs, it's not that crazy to think...

    Sanders will be the key, of course... he is a play-maker, and has a way of being in the right place at the right time... we'll see if he can pull a rabbit out of his hat...

    due to the injury situations (unless something changes) i am forced to lay off of this game and watch... unless i throw together a parlay or teaser just for fun... definitely gonna be one seriously intense game...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 8:34 PM ET #191

    Early lean is on the Pats Half and/or game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 10:05 PM ET #192

    I like the over.
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2007 - 10:17 PM ET #193

    I would lean towards the Colts for first half if I didn't think the the Pats were going to lead the whole game. They have shown that they don't slow down on offense toward the end.
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2007 - 1:07 AM ET #194

    Weird how this thread has slowed down so much night before the game.....
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2007 - 1:10 AM ET #196

    Taking the Colts+3 first half and the under. Then if the exits are barracaded, getting out of the building spy style through the ventilation ducting.
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2007 - 1:29 AM ET #197

    Quote Originally Posted by GoG:

    good post, Patsgrl... like i always say, not all Pats fans are douchebags... you are living proof...


    Thanks GoG. 
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    good post, Patsgrl... like i always say, not all Pats fans are douchebags... you are living proof...


    Thanks GoG. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2007 - 1:17 AM ET #198

    I live in NE and watch the Pats every week. I'm a Jets fan which makes me biased in the other direction. That said, this is the best professional football team I've seen in my lifetime (30 years +/-). Until the Pats win a game by less than 17 my money is on them. Pats by 14+!
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    I live in NE and watch the Pats every week. I'm a Jets fan which makes me biased in the other direction. That said, this is the best professional football team I've seen in my lifetime (30 years +/-). Until the Pats win a game by less than 17 my money is on them. Pats by 14+!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2007 - 2:08 AM ET #199

    This may sound like a broken record but I like the Patriots from here on out Got 6 units on NE -4.5 and 2 units Over , 1 units Parlay (NE + Over).. NENE ,Tom Brady
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    This may sound like a broken record but I like the Patriots from here on out Got 6 units on NE -4.5 and 2 units Over , 1 units Parlay (NE + Over).. NENE ,Tom Brady
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