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    New England at Green Bay (11/30/2014)

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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2014 - 12:54 AM ET #1

    Away:  New England [7-4 ATS]
    Home:  Green Bay [6-4-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:25 PM
    Stadium: Lambeau Field

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (2998)
    Rushing: Stevan Ridley (340)
    Receiving: Rob Gronkowski (812)

    Green Bay:
    Passing: Aaron Rodgers (2957)
    Rushing: Eddie Lacy (672)
    Receiving: Jordy Nelson (1066)

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    Away:  New England [7-4 ATS]
    Home:  Green Bay [6-4-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:25 PM
    Stadium: Lambeau Field

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (2998)
    Rushing: Stevan Ridley (340)
    Receiving: Rob Gronkowski (812)

    Green Bay:
    Passing: Aaron Rodgers (2957)
    Rushing: Eddie Lacy (672)
    Receiving: Jordy Nelson (1066)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2014 - 7:05 AM ET #2

    Green Bay -3 LARGE.....
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    Green Bay -3 LARGE.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2014 - 8:10 AM ET #3

    Total is 59......goodlord ....if either team happens to turn the ball over in the Redzone and miss a scoring opportunity ..Over Betters are fukkked ....
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    Total is 59......goodlord ....if either team happens to turn the ball over in the Redzone and miss a scoring opportunity ..Over Betters are fukkked ....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2014 - 7:46 PM ET #4

    New England is the number 1 ranked team in the NFL for a reason. I have won by betting on them the last 2-weeks. (Underdogs to Indy & Favorites against Detroit) I see no reason to back an NFC North team this week. Pats money line & +3...Don't know about the Over, someone has to make some keys stops!!
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    New England is the number 1 ranked team in the NFL for a reason. I have won by betting on them the last 2-weeks. (Underdogs to Indy & Favorites against Detroit) I see no reason to back an NFC North team this week. Pats money line & +3...Don't know about the Over, someone has to make some keys stops!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2014 - 9:21 PM ET #5

    Gee. Pack at home -3. Well now you know what Vegas thinks. Probably what you think (or should). IMHO, I'd stay away from this game. It can't be predicted. Either team is capable of blowing out the other and both are capable of keeping up with the other. Ignore the season stats. Both teams are playing better in all facets as of late. And, both teams are playing this one down as "just another game" when anyone with a clue knows that this is a possible SB preview and a critical game in the home-field advantage throughout department. I suspect that players on both teams are itching to play their best game. The Pack nearly lost to Minnesota on Sunday and my guess is because too many were thinking about this game. Sit back and enjoy what might just be too exciting for wagering.
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    Gee. Pack at home -3. Well now you know what Vegas thinks. Probably what you think (or should). IMHO, I'd stay away from this game. It can't be predicted. Either team is capable of blowing out the other and both are capable of keeping up with the other. Ignore the season stats. Both teams are playing better in all facets as of late. And, both teams are playing this one down as "just another game" when anyone with a clue knows that this is a possible SB preview and a critical game in the home-field advantage throughout department. I suspect that players on both teams are itching to play their best game. The Pack nearly lost to Minnesota on Sunday and my guess is because too many were thinking about this game. Sit back and enjoy what might just be too exciting for wagering.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2014 - 9:47 PM ET #6

    pats +3.....? All day long. All day.
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    pats +3.....? All day long. All day.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2014 - 6:54 AM ET #7

    Both teams on a roll here but which one is better at home vs on the road?  

    By FAR GB is the best team that the Pats have to face on the road this season and this is the end of their hot streak.  

    Great teams at home are impossible to beat, if this was in NE I'd be ALL over the Pats.  But this is on the road, in Lambo field and this is the best team to outscore the NE potent offense. 

    I'm gonna go big on GB here.  GB is the best NFC team that will end up being in the Superbowl.  In the AFC it's a toss up between NE & Denver.  There are many games for both the teams between now and January and there's no gimmes before then and we have seen that already.

    I hope that tons of people jump on the Pats so that the spread goes down because if it gets any less than a FG, I'm betting the house on GB.

    Beilchick has never faced Rodgers so any prior games are completely irrelevant.  So unless he's up 24/7 studying and committing Spygate yet once again, he can't prepare enough for this team in GB.   

    Recently GB has smoked every team at home by a HUGE margin.  This includes a very high powered Philly offense.  NE has only proved that they can only beat 1 good team on the road so far which was impressive without a doubt with Indy.  Other than that getting smashed by KC, winning against the Vikings, nothing so far there has got me convinced that they will go into GB and steamroll this very hot team right now. 
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    Both teams on a roll here but which one is better at home vs on the road?  

    By FAR GB is the best team that the Pats have to face on the road this season and this is the end of their hot streak.  

    Great teams at home are impossible to beat, if this was in NE I'd be ALL over the Pats.  But this is on the road, in Lambo field and this is the best team to outscore the NE potent offense. 

    I'm gonna go big on GB here.  GB is the best NFC team that will end up being in the Superbowl.  In the AFC it's a toss up between NE & Denver.  There are many games for both the teams between now and January and there's no gimmes before then and we have seen that already.

    I hope that tons of people jump on the Pats so that the spread goes down because if it gets any less than a FG, I'm betting the house on GB.

    Beilchick has never faced Rodgers so any prior games are completely irrelevant.  So unless he's up 24/7 studying and committing Spygate yet once again, he can't prepare enough for this team in GB.   

    Recently GB has smoked every team at home by a HUGE margin.  This includes a very high powered Philly offense.  NE has only proved that they can only beat 1 good team on the road so far which was impressive without a doubt with Indy.  Other than that getting smashed by KC, winning against the Vikings, nothing so far there has got me convinced that they will go into GB and steamroll this very hot team right now. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2014 - 7:30 AM ET #8

    Teasing N.E. to 9  and probably OVER.  Like to play the under, but this could be 21-21 at the half.  Who knows with these two.

    LEAN on Brady +3

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    Teasing N.E. to 9  and probably OVER.  Like to play the under, but this could be 21-21 at the half.  Who knows with these two.

    LEAN on Brady +3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2014 - 7:33 AM ET #9

    Well,... The Pats rule in the Matchup column, AND I believe they had a tougher schedule. I'll take the pts.
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    Well,... The Pats rule in the Matchup column, AND I believe they had a tougher schedule. I'll take the pts.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2014 - 4:45 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by i_Win_u_Lose:

    Total is 59......goodlord ....if either team happens to turn the ball over in the Redzone and miss a scoring opportunity ..Over Betters are fukkked ....


    I really like the under in this game... Both defenses have gotten much better as the year has progressed and this game marks what I think could possibly be a super bowl preview!  I realize these are my two favorite teams so my opinion could be emotion influenced which is dangerous in gambling however I believe these teams will both try to play keep away with long methodical drives and not give up big deep balls which are the reason these teams generally score alot of points against other teams.  I believe the total is high due to both teams ability to score alot of points proven against other teams earlier in the season. (GB-CHI) This game won't go like that with two heavyweights. NE secondary is strong keeping Rogers in a dink and dunk mode with Eddie Lacy pounding the Rock and NE isn't really built for deep balls.  This is my humble opinion... insights?  thinking about going big on the under
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_Win_u_Lose:

    Total is 59......goodlord ....if either team happens to turn the ball over in the Redzone and miss a scoring opportunity ..Over Betters are fukkked ....


    I really like the under in this game... Both defenses have gotten much better as the year has progressed and this game marks what I think could possibly be a super bowl preview!  I realize these are my two favorite teams so my opinion could be emotion influenced which is dangerous in gambling however I believe these teams will both try to play keep away with long methodical drives and not give up big deep balls which are the reason these teams generally score alot of points against other teams.  I believe the total is high due to both teams ability to score alot of points proven against other teams earlier in the season. (GB-CHI) This game won't go like that with two heavyweights. NE secondary is strong keeping Rogers in a dink and dunk mode with Eddie Lacy pounding the Rock and NE isn't really built for deep balls.  This is my humble opinion... insights?  thinking about going big on the under
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2014 - 9:15 AM ET #11

    NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS  +3                   EASY PICK FOR THE THIS YEARS SUPER BOWL CHAMPS..!!!!!!!!!!!
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    NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS  +3                   EASY PICK FOR THE THIS YEARS SUPER BOWL CHAMPS..!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2014 - 5:14 PM ET #12

    RELAX i really believe that the pack wins by dbl didgets
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    RELAX i really believe that the pack wins by dbl didgets
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2014 - 9:09 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by ArrowheadRanger:

    RELAX i really believe that the pack wins by dbl didgets
     Packers haven't played anyone real yet this year. Beatin' Chicago by 28 don't count. I would say though that packers at home score on average like 47 pt a game which is concerning for pats backers.....then again-Brady. And if you've been witnessing what that oats have been doing as of late- it's like Ghengas Khan in 1206 on the Mongol Plains...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArrowheadRanger:

    RELAX i really believe that the pack wins by dbl didgets
     Packers haven't played anyone real yet this year. Beatin' Chicago by 28 don't count. I would say though that packers at home score on average like 47 pt a game which is concerning for pats backers.....then again-Brady. And if you've been witnessing what that oats have been doing as of late- it's like Ghengas Khan in 1206 on the Mongol Plains...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 1:57 AM ET #14

    PATS PLUS POINTS ALL DAY BABY!!!!!
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    PATS PLUS POINTS ALL DAY BABY!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 2:25 AM ET #15

    PATRIOTS MONEY LINE. 
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    PATRIOTS MONEY LINE. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 3:45 AM ET #16

    New England ML
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    New England ML
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 9:23 PM ET #17

    GB and GB 1st Half 
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    GB and GB 1st Half 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2014 - 2:40 PM ET #18

    What's the likelihood both these teams run the ball most of the game trying to keep the qbs off the field as much as possible
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    What's the likelihood both these teams run the ball most of the game trying to keep the qbs off the field as much as possible
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 12:16 AM ET #19

    ^ quite possible. breaking off big chunks of run yardage is the same though. im a homer, so ill lay off choosing a side. BUT a NE+3 is realistic. Brady loves games like these. 

    Sprinkle the over on that as well even though the total looks dreadful.
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    ^ quite possible. breaking off big chunks of run yardage is the same though. im a homer, so ill lay off choosing a side. BUT a NE+3 is realistic. Brady loves games like these. 

    Sprinkle the over on that as well even though the total looks dreadful.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 1:20 AM ET #20

    New England (+3) 29 GREEN BAY 30

     

    This should be a great game featuring two of the best quarterbacks to ever play but it could be won on the ground as the Patriots will look to exploit the Packers poor run defense and control the clock, keeping Aaron Rodgers off the field. No one does a better job of being game plan specific and the Patriots pounded the Colts in Week 11 for 246 yards on the ground at 5.6 ypr as they took advantage of a soft Indy rush defense up the middle. I expect a similar approach this week against a Green Bay rush defense that is allowing 138 yards at 4.6 ypr and does not possess a lot of bulk up front. Success in the run game will open up play action for Tom Brady and their very good passing attack that is averaging 275 yards at 6.8 yps against teams that allow 231 yards at 6.1 yps. The Patriots should move the ball well and be able to put up some points in this game.

    On the other side, the Packers pass offense has been off the charts (averaging 7.7 yps against teams that allow 6.5 yps) but they’ll face a New England pass defense that can match up well with the Green Bay receivers. The Packers will look for balance and may also employ a greater than average dose of the run game with Eddie Lacy getting added work. This game is really a toss up to me but I like the way the Patriots match up. I like the  Patriots plus the points.

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    New England (+3) 29 GREEN BAY 30

     

    This should be a great game featuring two of the best quarterbacks to ever play but it could be won on the ground as the Patriots will look to exploit the Packers poor run defense and control the clock, keeping Aaron Rodgers off the field. No one does a better job of being game plan specific and the Patriots pounded the Colts in Week 11 for 246 yards on the ground at 5.6 ypr as they took advantage of a soft Indy rush defense up the middle. I expect a similar approach this week against a Green Bay rush defense that is allowing 138 yards at 4.6 ypr and does not possess a lot of bulk up front. Success in the run game will open up play action for Tom Brady and their very good passing attack that is averaging 275 yards at 6.8 yps against teams that allow 231 yards at 6.1 yps. The Patriots should move the ball well and be able to put up some points in this game.

    On the other side, the Packers pass offense has been off the charts (averaging 7.7 yps against teams that allow 6.5 yps) but they’ll face a New England pass defense that can match up well with the Green Bay receivers. The Packers will look for balance and may also employ a greater than average dose of the run game with Eddie Lacy getting added work. This game is really a toss up to me but I like the way the Patriots match up. I like the  Patriots plus the points.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 2:21 AM ET #21

    Belichick, is a football genius. I have never really ever been able to get in his head. That being said, I see time of possession as the key to this game, nobody wants to get into a long ball pissin contest, leaves to much to chance. If the Pats want to win this game, I see Brady and offense chewing up alot of clock in the first half, wearing out the Cheesehead defense, then if need be, in the second half, they will have a pissin contest with Rodgers if necessary, but time of possession is key with two very well matched high powered teams in my opinion. I think I will play the under for the firsthalf, which is usually unusual for me, we often look for overs in the first half and unders in the second half, but I think this is the play.
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    Belichick, is a football genius. I have never really ever been able to get in his head. That being said, I see time of possession as the key to this game, nobody wants to get into a long ball pissin contest, leaves to much to chance. If the Pats want to win this game, I see Brady and offense chewing up alot of clock in the first half, wearing out the Cheesehead defense, then if need be, in the second half, they will have a pissin contest with Rodgers if necessary, but time of possession is key with two very well matched high powered teams in my opinion. I think I will play the under for the firsthalf, which is usually unusual for me, we often look for overs in the first half and unders in the second half, but I think this is the play.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 2:27 AM ET #22

    Belichick and Brady + points, where do I sign up? Since the fixed their O-Line problems from early in the season they have been unstoppable on offense and with the many different coverages that BB comes up with they have been giving opposing qb's fits. Now I know that Rodgers is one  of the best in the league but BB is a genius and lives for these moments as does Brady. Rodgers is the 2nd best qb on the field Sunday.
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    Belichick and Brady + points, where do I sign up? Since the fixed their O-Line problems from early in the season they have been unstoppable on offense and with the many different coverages that BB comes up with they have been giving opposing qb's fits. Now I know that Rodgers is one  of the best in the league but BB is a genius and lives for these moments as does Brady. Rodgers is the 2nd best qb on the field Sunday.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 2:47 AM ET #23

    Love Packets at home Rogers Lacy & improved defense Home cooking
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    Love Packets at home Rogers Lacy & improved defense Home cooking
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2014 - 3:18 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by joepecsi:

    NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS  +3                   EASY PICK FOR THE THIS YEARS SUPER BOWL CHAMPS..!!!!!!!!!!!


    This game is a toss up. As for NE winning a SB, Tom Brady is still married to that Jinx Giselle Bundchen? Last SB Brady won was 2005, 9 seasons ago!!!

    Tom "I look at the ref every time some touches me" Brady is going to choke again. 37? Time for retirement Tom?
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joepecsi:

    NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS  +3                   EASY PICK FOR THE THIS YEARS SUPER BOWL CHAMPS..!!!!!!!!!!!


    This game is a toss up. As for NE winning a SB, Tom Brady is still married to that Jinx Giselle Bundchen? Last SB Brady won was 2005, 9 seasons ago!!!

    Tom "I look at the ref every time some touches me" Brady is going to choke again. 37? Time for retirement Tom?
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cappithadon21:

    What's the likelihood both these teams run the ball most of the game trying to keep the qbs off the field as much as possible
    Not much
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    Quote Originally Posted by cappithadon21:

    What's the likelihood both these teams run the ball most of the game trying to keep the qbs off the field as much as possible
    Not much
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