The Saints defense is weak against the pass, but with Ferrotte playing QB for the Vikes I'm not sure that can be exploited with him behind center.
Bush & Peterson on the same field tonight sure seems like the over comes into play, but like I stated earlier unless old Gus can get a passing game going I would hate to rely on just AP doing all the scoring for the Vikes.
Deuce back and healthy is also a big plus for the Saints with him coming out of the backfield as a receiver or running back.
Well I took a BIG hit last night with Jax at the half don't see myself touching anything tonight. Still just barely on the plus side after the the weekend I'll just use that and then some to hammer on the Under on Tuesday.
Good luck to everyone tonight
The Saints defense is weak against the pass, but with Ferrotte playing QB for the Vikes I'm not sure that can be exploited with him behind center.
Bush & Peterson on the same field tonight sure seems like the over comes into play, but like I stated earlier unless old Gus can get a passing game going I would hate to rely on just AP doing all the scoring for the Vikes.
Deuce back and healthy is also a big plus for the Saints with him coming out of the backfield as a receiver or running back.
Well I took a BIG hit last night with Jax at the half don't see myself touching anything tonight. Still just barely on the plus side after the the weekend I'll just use that and then some to hammer on the Under on Tuesday.
I jumped on Vikes.........I know itz early, but I got em at 3.5(-130) and I don't see it get any better than that........line will prolly end up @ Vikes +3...........3 units.....good luck to me!
I jumped on Vikes.........I know itz early, but I got em at 3.5(-130) and I don't see it get any better than that........line will prolly end up @ Vikes +3...........3 units.....good luck to me!
Wy is it 3 if the saints are that good then why not 7 or even 6, 6.5 ect. ect ext.....
You asked the right question. Ive done zero research, but your question is making me think about where vegas needs to put the line to split the money. Listening to your assumption, I assume that if they put it at -6, bettors would drive uneven $ on Minn +6...only to cause them to drop the line to even the books.
Im alligning with Watch, I cant help but think this line is to get $ on NO...knowing the public perception would love to see -3. Not you ronnie101, but I would fade some people here because i think this thread is an indicator of the average fan falling in love with NO -3.
Bottom line, these two teams are not good teams to bet on. Under performing defenses, great running backs that could dominate any game if not for their underacheiving offenses...is tonight the night one or both RBs dominate? Nobody really knows...small play on the MNF road dog.
Quote Originally Posted by ronnie101:
here is what we should all be thinking.....
What would I make this line to be ??
Wy is it 3 if the saints are that good then why not 7 or even 6, 6.5 ect. ect ext.....
You asked the right question. Ive done zero research, but your question is making me think about where vegas needs to put the line to split the money. Listening to your assumption, I assume that if they put it at -6, bettors would drive uneven $ on Minn +6...only to cause them to drop the line to even the books.
Im alligning with Watch, I cant help but think this line is to get $ on NO...knowing the public perception would love to see -3. Not you ronnie101, but I would fade some people here because i think this thread is an indicator of the average fan falling in love with NO -3.
Bottom line, these two teams are not good teams to bet on. Under performing defenses, great running backs that could dominate any game if not for their underacheiving offenses...is tonight the night one or both RBs dominate? Nobody really knows...small play on the MNF road dog.
Long thread here, i didn't read much of it, because my mind was made up last week when I looked at this game. MIN rolls in this one.
One more thing can anyone please suggest a book where getting payouts is relatively painless? I won big this weekend and my book's payout maximums are pretty low. Would appreciate some feedback on this. Can send me a message.
MIN 31
NO 24
Long thread here, i didn't read much of it, because my mind was made up last week when I looked at this game. MIN rolls in this one.
One more thing can anyone please suggest a book where getting payouts is relatively painless? I won big this weekend and my book's payout maximums are pretty low. Would appreciate some feedback on this. Can send me a message.
You asked the right question. Ive done zero research, but your question is making me think about where vegas needs to put the line to split the money. Listening to your assumption, I assume that if they put it at -6, bettors would drive uneven $ on Minn +6...only to cause them to drop the line to even the books.
Im alligning with Watch, I cant help but think this line is to get $ on NO...knowing the public perception would love to see -3. Not you ronnie101, but I would fade some people here because i think this thread is an indicator of the average fan falling in love with NO -3.
Bottom line, these two teams are not good teams to bet on. Under performing defenses, great running backs that could dominate any game if not for their underacheiving offenses...is tonight the night one or both RBs dominate? Nobody really knows...small play on the MNF road dog.
Agreed. This game tonight can be compared to two blind guys in a Wack-A-Mole competition. Both have similar skills and shortcomings, but tough to say which one is going to WACK the most MOLES. Only thing you do know, is that there will be lots of WACKING going on!!!!! OVER!!
Quote Originally Posted by ThtsGoodKnwldge:
You asked the right question. Ive done zero research, but your question is making me think about where vegas needs to put the line to split the money. Listening to your assumption, I assume that if they put it at -6, bettors would drive uneven $ on Minn +6...only to cause them to drop the line to even the books.
Im alligning with Watch, I cant help but think this line is to get $ on NO...knowing the public perception would love to see -3. Not you ronnie101, but I would fade some people here because i think this thread is an indicator of the average fan falling in love with NO -3.
Bottom line, these two teams are not good teams to bet on. Under performing defenses, great running backs that could dominate any game if not for their underacheiving offenses...is tonight the night one or both RBs dominate? Nobody really knows...small play on the MNF road dog.
Agreed. This game tonight can be compared to two blind guys in a Wack-A-Mole competition. Both have similar skills and shortcomings, but tough to say which one is going to WACK the most MOLES. Only thing you do know, is that there will be lots of WACKING going on!!!!! OVER!!
Neither team is playing at the level it wanted -- and expected -- to, but New Orleans is closer to being a complete team than Minnesota. Even though it is only Week 5, this is almost a must-win situation for the Vikings. The Saints have suffered through a lot of offensive injuries, but they are surviving those setbacks and led by QB Drew Brees, they are still operating at a high level, especially in the passing game. Minnesota is a one-dimensional offensive team with a powerful run game behind Adrian Peterson, but it lacks explosiveness and does not scare anybody. Minnesota does, however, have a scary-good defense. Luckily for both teams, they are in divisions that lack an elite team, so turning the season around and staying in the playoff hunt is a definite possibility. It will be tough for the confidence-lacking Vikings to steal a win in the SuperDome, but it is a necessity.
Good Write up by ESPN
Neither team is playing at the level it wanted -- and expected -- to, but New Orleans is closer to being a complete team than Minnesota. Even though it is only Week 5, this is almost a must-win situation for the Vikings. The Saints have suffered through a lot of offensive injuries, but they are surviving those setbacks and led by QB Drew Brees, they are still operating at a high level, especially in the passing game. Minnesota is a one-dimensional offensive team with a powerful run game behind Adrian Peterson, but it lacks explosiveness and does not scare anybody. Minnesota does, however, have a scary-good defense. Luckily for both teams, they are in divisions that lack an elite team, so turning the season around and staying in the playoff hunt is a definite possibility. It will be tough for the confidence-lacking Vikings to steal a win in the SuperDome, but it is a necessity.
Do not let Minny's record fool you. Once they get these quarterback shenanigans squared away a second half run is almost certain.
Hit Pitt ML & Over last night and will use the same thought process here. Look fellas, Minny's run D is top notch and the secondary is pretty good especially if they get a good pass rush. Drew Brees WILL have to win this game. He is the key not Bush or Deuce and Minny knows this. If they get to him, look out. On the other side, We all know Peterson will get his and Minny's pass game is servicable for the moment. Take note, they will take their shots against a suspect Saints secondary. I think Minny can control the game with the running and keep Brees of the field as much as possible. The last factor I look at is that this a dome game which takes a slight bite out of the home field advantage.
Players like Bush and Peterson seem to thrive on turf so I expect plenty of fireworks. But after the smoke clears....
Vikings ML
Do not let Minny's record fool you. Once they get these quarterback shenanigans squared away a second half run is almost certain.
Hit Pitt ML & Over last night and will use the same thought process here. Look fellas, Minny's run D is top notch and the secondary is pretty good especially if they get a good pass rush. Drew Brees WILL have to win this game. He is the key not Bush or Deuce and Minny knows this. If they get to him, look out. On the other side, We all know Peterson will get his and Minny's pass game is servicable for the moment. Take note, they will take their shots against a suspect Saints secondary. I think Minny can control the game with the running and keep Brees of the field as much as possible. The last factor I look at is that this a dome game which takes a slight bite out of the home field advantage.
Players like Bush and Peterson seem to thrive on turf so I expect plenty of fireworks. But after the smoke clears....
Do not let Minny's record fool you. Once they get these quarterback shenanigans squared away a second half run is almost certain.
Hit Pitt ML & Over last night and will use the same thought process here. Look fellas, Minny's run D is top notch and the secondary is pretty good especially if they get a good pass rush. Drew Brees WILL have to win this game. He is the key not Bush or Deuce and Minny knows this. If they get to him, look out. On the other side, We all know Peterson will get his and Minny's pass game is servicable for the moment. Take note, they will take their shots against a suspect Saints secondary. I think Minny can control the game with the running and keep Brees of the field as much as possible. The last factor I look at is that this a dome game which takes a slight bite out of the home field advantage.
Players like Bush and Peterson seem to thrive on turf so I expect plenty of fireworks. But after the smoke clears....
Vikings ML
I agree with you almost 100%...... the Vikes will make a 2nd half run....
But tonight is still the first half... and they have qb problems... I also agree that they have to pass protect Drew Brees.... but this guy is playing unbelieveable football....
Vikes+ on the road+ with a qb problem = Implosion.....
I also agree that they will take shots down field after AP sets it up while he tramples Saints Defense.... but who are they going to throw to.... berrian and the other guy (forgot his name u know who i mean) are both nursing injured knees.... they are expected to play but at what %.... on the upside of that, that kid Wade looked sharp last week....
But I just think the Saints will put up more points than the Vikes....
considering Taking the Saints ML so I don't have to lay 3.......
I'll give my final pick at the pregame warm-ups.... I always like to see the players warm up before I finalize my bet.... nice to see if they are on their toes or flat-footed... lol
Quote Originally Posted by roversport365:
Do not let Minny's record fool you. Once they get these quarterback shenanigans squared away a second half run is almost certain.
Hit Pitt ML & Over last night and will use the same thought process here. Look fellas, Minny's run D is top notch and the secondary is pretty good especially if they get a good pass rush. Drew Brees WILL have to win this game. He is the key not Bush or Deuce and Minny knows this. If they get to him, look out. On the other side, We all know Peterson will get his and Minny's pass game is servicable for the moment. Take note, they will take their shots against a suspect Saints secondary. I think Minny can control the game with the running and keep Brees of the field as much as possible. The last factor I look at is that this a dome game which takes a slight bite out of the home field advantage.
Players like Bush and Peterson seem to thrive on turf so I expect plenty of fireworks. But after the smoke clears....
Vikings ML
I agree with you almost 100%...... the Vikes will make a 2nd half run....
But tonight is still the first half... and they have qb problems... I also agree that they have to pass protect Drew Brees.... but this guy is playing unbelieveable football....
Vikes+ on the road+ with a qb problem = Implosion.....
I also agree that they will take shots down field after AP sets it up while he tramples Saints Defense.... but who are they going to throw to.... berrian and the other guy (forgot his name u know who i mean) are both nursing injured knees.... they are expected to play but at what %.... on the upside of that, that kid Wade looked sharp last week....
But I just think the Saints will put up more points than the Vikes....
considering Taking the Saints ML so I don't have to lay 3.......
I'll give my final pick at the pregame warm-ups.... I always like to see the players warm up before I finalize my bet.... nice to see if they are on their toes or flat-footed... lol
Don't like that soo many people like the Ain'ts tonight. If this crowd comes out in full force which it will and if the D can play just well enough than they will grab the win and cover at home. This line does look a bit fishy as they are only favored by 3. I'm gonna roll with W8 and FPronk on this one. Saints.
SAINTS -3
Don't like that soo many people like the Ain'ts tonight. If this crowd comes out in full force which it will and if the D can play just well enough than they will grab the win and cover at home. This line does look a bit fishy as they are only favored by 3. I'm gonna roll with W8 and FPronk on this one. Saints.
Oct 3 Minnesota Vikings WR Sidney Rice (knee) was limited during practice Friday, Oct. 3. He is listed as questionable for the team's Week 5 game but should play in the game.
Oct 4 Mark Craig, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings WR Bernard Berrian (knee) took part during the brief portion of practice Saturday, Oct. 4, that was open to the media. Berrian said he's "optimistic" he will play Week 5.
WR Bernard Berrian was added to the Vikings??? injury report late last week after injuring his knee in practice. Berrian already has been bothered by a sore big toe on his right foot since early in training camp.
COURTESY OF THE BEST SOURCE FOR NFL INJURIES I HAVE EVER SEEN..... YAHOO FANTASY FOOTBALL..
it is really the most informative sight...... There have been so many games in the past when the injuries we're a guessing game.... this really makes it much easier
Oct 3 Minnesota Vikings WR Sidney Rice (knee) was limited during practice Friday, Oct. 3. He is listed as questionable for the team's Week 5 game but should play in the game.
Oct 4 Mark Craig, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings WR Bernard Berrian (knee) took part during the brief portion of practice Saturday, Oct. 4, that was open to the media. Berrian said he's "optimistic" he will play Week 5.
WR Bernard Berrian was added to the Vikings??? injury report late last week after injuring his knee in practice. Berrian already has been bothered by a sore big toe on his right foot since early in training camp.
COURTESY OF THE BEST SOURCE FOR NFL INJURIES I HAVE EVER SEEN..... YAHOO FANTASY FOOTBALL..
it is really the most informative sight...... There have been so many games in the past when the injuries we're a guessing game.... this really makes it much easier
Do not let Minny's record fool you. Once they get these quarterback shenanigans squared away a second half run is almost certain.
Hit Pitt ML & Over last night and will use the same thought process here. Look fellas, Minny's run D is top notch and the secondary is pretty good especially if they get a good pass rush. Drew Brees WILL have to win this game. He is the key not Bush or Deuce and Minny knows this. If they get to him, look out. On the other side, We all know Peterson will get his and Minny's pass game is servicable for the moment. Take note, they will take their shots against a suspect Saints secondary. I think Minny can control the game with the running and keep Brees of the field as much as possible. The last factor I look at is that this a dome game which takes a slight bite out of the home field advantage.
Players like Bush and Peterson seem to thrive on turf so I expect plenty of fireworks. But after the smoke clears....
Vikings ML
Hope you are right my friend .
I am taking the under 46.5 for this game. It is alot of pts for a Vikings game. Hoping that the Vikings will control the line and run Petersons over 30 carries. Theres is no line movement in this game and it is scarring me. Public are all over New Orleans and yet the line remains at 3 . It should have gone to at least 4 pts by now. I feel like Vegas and Books are rooting for Vikings tonight like they did for Pitts las night. We all know how that turns out.
After all that said, I am leaning to take the Under.Not trusting my Vikings Offense at all..
Bigdaddy keep your Money and bet it on TNS
Under 46.5 is my play BOL
Quote Originally Posted by roversport365:
Do not let Minny's record fool you. Once they get these quarterback shenanigans squared away a second half run is almost certain.
Hit Pitt ML & Over last night and will use the same thought process here. Look fellas, Minny's run D is top notch and the secondary is pretty good especially if they get a good pass rush. Drew Brees WILL have to win this game. He is the key not Bush or Deuce and Minny knows this. If they get to him, look out. On the other side, We all know Peterson will get his and Minny's pass game is servicable for the moment. Take note, they will take their shots against a suspect Saints secondary. I think Minny can control the game with the running and keep Brees of the field as much as possible. The last factor I look at is that this a dome game which takes a slight bite out of the home field advantage.
Players like Bush and Peterson seem to thrive on turf so I expect plenty of fireworks. But after the smoke clears....
Vikings ML
Hope you are right my friend .
I am taking the under 46.5 for this game. It is alot of pts for a Vikings game. Hoping that the Vikings will control the line and run Petersons over 30 carries. Theres is no line movement in this game and it is scarring me. Public are all over New Orleans and yet the line remains at 3 . It should have gone to at least 4 pts by now. I feel like Vegas and Books are rooting for Vikings tonight like they did for Pitts las night. We all know how that turns out.
After all that said, I am leaning to take the Under.Not trusting my Vikings Offense at all..
It's never this easy folks...I liked New Orleans here a lot when I first saw the line. But considering I went 7-1 yesterday and 3-0 on Sunday Night (Steelers ML, Steelers +6, and Over 38.5) for a reason...I don't just make a pick from the top of my head. I do a lot of research and analysis. I have a excel spreadsheet of all my wagers since 9/25..you more than welcome to look at them yourself.
Straight Wagers since 9/25
24 – 1168.57%
Straight Wagers since 10/2
14 – 573.68%
:: EARLY PREDICTION ::
As of now I am going with the Vikings and the under. I am going with the theory that defense and running the ball wins games. If the Vikings can control the clock then they keep the Saints off the field. Brees can throw TD's from the sideline...actually I don't think its ever been done by any QB.
Prediction:
Vikings 23
Saints 21
Now, the other side to that…if Saints get out to an early lead and the Vikings have to pass to win, they have no chance.
It's never this easy folks...I liked New Orleans here a lot when I first saw the line. But considering I went 7-1 yesterday and 3-0 on Sunday Night (Steelers ML, Steelers +6, and Over 38.5) for a reason...I don't just make a pick from the top of my head. I do a lot of research and analysis. I have a excel spreadsheet of all my wagers since 9/25..you more than welcome to look at them yourself.
Straight Wagers since 9/25
24 – 1168.57%
Straight Wagers since 10/2
14 – 573.68%
:: EARLY PREDICTION ::
As of now I am going with the Vikings and the under. I am going with the theory that defense and running the ball wins games. If the Vikings can control the clock then they keep the Saints off the field. Brees can throw TD's from the sideline...actually I don't think its ever been done by any QB.
Prediction:
Vikings 23
Saints 21
Now, the other side to that…if Saints get out to an early lead and the Vikings have to pass to win, they have no chance.
Do not let Minny's record fool you. Once they get these quarterback shenanigans squared away a second half run is almost certain.
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