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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 12:51 PM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    as bmoose11 stated above these 2 teams normally play close no matter what the situation. Jax came from behind to pull out a victory over Green Bay last Sunday I think they should be able to carry that momentum over to this rival game.
     
    Leaning on the Jax final

     

    Good to hear your opinion.  Hope you're feeling better. Thanks for the insight as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    as bmoose11 stated above these 2 teams normally play close no matter what the situation. Jax came from behind to pull out a victory over Green Bay last Sunday I think they should be able to carry that momentum over to this rival game.
     
    Leaning on the Jax final

     

    Good to hear your opinion.  Hope you're feeling better. Thanks for the insight as always.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 12:53 PM ET #102

    For Thursday games this year the over is 6-1-1.  The NFL Network begs for attention thus high scoring games....just my opinion but the over has been good so far.
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    For Thursday games this year the over is 6-1-1.  The NFL Network begs for attention thus high scoring games....just my opinion but the over has been good so far.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 12:58 PM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by eezzmoney:

    This one looks like a trap. Everyone has to like indy here including me. 6 points seems way low to me. either a christmas present or a setup.

    the line seems about right to me - should be at 7 by kickoff.  its not as if the colts are blowing teams out of the water during this hot streak - they've had their share of close games, plus vegas is factoring the inter-divison rivalary.  check out this trend i just noticed.

    • 11/2 - vs NE (no cover)
    • 11/9 - vs Pitt (cover)
    • 11/16 - vs Hou (no cover)
    • 11/23 - vs SD (cover)
    • 11/30 - vs Cleav (no cover or push)
    • 12/7 - vs Cincy (cover)
    • 12/14 - vs Det (no cover)
    • 12/18 - vs Jax (cover?)

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by eezzmoney:

    This one looks like a trap. Everyone has to like indy here including me. 6 points seems way low to me. either a christmas present or a setup.

    the line seems about right to me - should be at 7 by kickoff.  its not as if the colts are blowing teams out of the water during this hot streak - they've had their share of close games, plus vegas is factoring the inter-divison rivalary.  check out this trend i just noticed.

    • 11/2 - vs NE (no cover)
    • 11/9 - vs Pitt (cover)
    • 11/16 - vs Hou (no cover)
    • 11/23 - vs SD (cover)
    • 11/30 - vs Cleav (no cover or push)
    • 12/7 - vs Cincy (cover)
    • 12/14 - vs Det (no cover)
    • 12/18 - vs Jax (cover?)

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 12:59 PM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by bergermaxin:

    over is 5-0-1 this year for thurs night games. Theory my friend has for strategic TV advertising. ( They want you to buy the NFL network, so they gotta have high scorin action so its more interesting)......im just sayin.......

    I just posted damn near the same thing and was reading the rest of the thread.  That has to be a good thing...huh? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by bergermaxin:

    over is 5-0-1 this year for thurs night games. Theory my friend has for strategic TV advertising. ( They want you to buy the NFL network, so they gotta have high scorin action so its more interesting)......im just sayin.......

    I just posted damn near the same thing and was reading the rest of the thread.  That has to be a good thing...huh? 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 12:59 PM ET #105

    **above is colts games**
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    **above is colts games**
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:01 PM ET #106

    Upset Special Here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    Becareful here on this game.   Everything points at the Colts here tonight.    This a perfect situation here for the Jags.   
     
    Colts       29               Jaguars  28
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    Upset Special Here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    Becareful here on this game.   Everything points at the Colts here tonight.    This a perfect situation here for the Jags.   
     
    Colts       29               Jaguars  28
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:06 PM ET #107

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE....THESE GAMES ARE ALWAYS CLOSE AND GO DOWN TO THE FINAL DRIVE!!! SURE JAX HAS INJURIES AND HAS UNDERACHIEVED BUT THE REASON THERE GAMES ARE CLOSE IS BECAUSE THEY RUN THE BALL AND KEEP PEYTON OFF THE FIELD. AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED THEY STILL HAVE MJD AND FRED TAYLOR...LIKE USUAL THEY WILL CONTROL THE CLOCK AND KEEP THIS GAME WITHIN 4 POINTS IF NOT WIN OUTRIGHT!!!! PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB "BET WITH THE PUBLIC....LOSE WITH THE PUBLIC"
     
    JAGS +6
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    WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE....THESE GAMES ARE ALWAYS CLOSE AND GO DOWN TO THE FINAL DRIVE!!! SURE JAX HAS INJURIES AND HAS UNDERACHIEVED BUT THE REASON THERE GAMES ARE CLOSE IS BECAUSE THEY RUN THE BALL AND KEEP PEYTON OFF THE FIELD. AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED THEY STILL HAVE MJD AND FRED TAYLOR...LIKE USUAL THEY WILL CONTROL THE CLOCK AND KEEP THIS GAME WITHIN 4 POINTS IF NOT WIN OUTRIGHT!!!! PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB "BET WITH THE PUBLIC....LOSE WITH THE PUBLIC"
     
    JAGS +6
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:24 PM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by L0cks_all_d4y:

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE....THESE GAMES ARE ALWAYS CLOSE AND GO DOWN TO THE FINAL DRIVE!!! SURE JAX HAS INJURIES AND HAS UNDERACHIEVED BUT THE REASON THERE GAMES ARE CLOSE IS BECAUSE THEY RUN THE BALL AND KEEP PEYTON OFF THE FIELD. AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED THEY STILL HAVE MJD AND FRED TAYLOR...LIKE USUAL THEY WILL CONTROL THE CLOCK AND KEEP THIS GAME WITHIN 4 POINTS IF NOT WIN OUTRIGHT!!!! PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB "BET WITH THE PUBLIC....LOSE WITH THE PUBLIC"
     
    JAGS +6

    -last years final in jax was colts 29-7 (vs a much better jags team)

    -fred taylor is out for the year

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    Quote Originally Posted by L0cks_all_d4y:

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE....THESE GAMES ARE ALWAYS CLOSE AND GO DOWN TO THE FINAL DRIVE!!! SURE JAX HAS INJURIES AND HAS UNDERACHIEVED BUT THE REASON THERE GAMES ARE CLOSE IS BECAUSE THEY RUN THE BALL AND KEEP PEYTON OFF THE FIELD. AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED THEY STILL HAVE MJD AND FRED TAYLOR...LIKE USUAL THEY WILL CONTROL THE CLOCK AND KEEP THIS GAME WITHIN 4 POINTS IF NOT WIN OUTRIGHT!!!! PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB "BET WITH THE PUBLIC....LOSE WITH THE PUBLIC"
     
    JAGS +6

    -last years final in jax was colts 29-7 (vs a much better jags team)

    -fred taylor is out for the year

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:29 PM ET #109

    OK TRAP OR NOT IM TAKING THE COLTS WITH - 6.
     
    IF YOUR UNSURE BET SMALL ON THE COLTS CUZ THERES MORE GAMES TO BE PLAYED.
     
     
    BOLA !!!
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    OK TRAP OR NOT IM TAKING THE COLTS WITH - 6.
     
    IF YOUR UNSURE BET SMALL ON THE COLTS CUZ THERES MORE GAMES TO BE PLAYED.
     
     
    BOLA !!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:31 PM ET #110

    Leaning towars Jax here with a Thursday night game at home and really nothing to lose. These situations can sometimes be trap games for teams that are thinking playoffs. So leave it up to Jax to play spoiler, if nothing else.

    This is a team that by some were predicted to go to the Super Bowl and will not even make the playoffs. Needless to say they have underachieved but have good coaching in their corner. Not a better coach than Dungy....but a good one.
     
    My only concern here is although this is a division game, which teams in a division typically play each other tough, the only problem is Jax beat them in the first meeting. Always tough to sweep a division foe.
     
    But nonetheless, leaning on Jax here give me +6.
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    Leaning towars Jax here with a Thursday night game at home and really nothing to lose. These situations can sometimes be trap games for teams that are thinking playoffs. So leave it up to Jax to play spoiler, if nothing else.

    This is a team that by some were predicted to go to the Super Bowl and will not even make the playoffs. Needless to say they have underachieved but have good coaching in their corner. Not a better coach than Dungy....but a good one.
     
    My only concern here is although this is a division game, which teams in a division typically play each other tough, the only problem is Jax beat them in the first meeting. Always tough to sweep a division foe.
     
    But nonetheless, leaning on Jax here give me +6.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:41 PM ET #111

    Here's your Moneymaker
     
    Colts Team Total Over 3.5 Q1 
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    Here's your Moneymaker
     
    Colts Team Total Over 3.5 Q1 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:44 PM ET #112

    i'm going with indy definitely,plus i managed to get the line down to IND-4,makes me feel even better about this
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    i'm going with indy definitely,plus i managed to get the line down to IND-4,makes me feel even better about this
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:48 PM ET #113

    Jax is one of those teams you just can't put your money on.  You either bet against them or you don't play the game.  Bet them and your likely to yank your cock out by its root.  Ultimate frustration...don't do it to yourself, or the little fella. 
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    Jax is one of those teams you just can't put your money on.  You either bet against them or you don't play the game.  Bet them and your likely to yank your cock out by its root.  Ultimate frustration...don't do it to yourself, or the little fella. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:50 PM ET #114

    Quote Originally Posted by jackal7130:

    3,4,4,3,4. That is the margin of victory respectively in the Colts 5 road wins ( stuck in there are 2 losses ). I don't see how this is a GIMME! Granted Jax has sucked, and I mentioned last week it looked like they had quit. I also stated that it was not in Del Rios vocabulary. It could be Jax's SUPER BOWL . Just playing devils advocate here but it is still not a gimme because these two teams HATE each other. I think if you like the Colts you have to like the under also because every Colts cover last ten have gone under. Every Jags cover has gone over ( odd huh ?).Well BOL to all

    Absolutely wrong info...IND @ PIT was OVER and ind won 24-20. IND @ HOU and covered 31-27 and that was OVER. Those are the two games that came to me right away when i saw your post...Please do not post wrong stats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal7130:

    3,4,4,3,4. That is the margin of victory respectively in the Colts 5 road wins ( stuck in there are 2 losses ). I don't see how this is a GIMME! Granted Jax has sucked, and I mentioned last week it looked like they had quit. I also stated that it was not in Del Rios vocabulary. It could be Jax's SUPER BOWL . Just playing devils advocate here but it is still not a gimme because these two teams HATE each other. I think if you like the Colts you have to like the under also because every Colts cover last ten have gone under. Every Jags cover has gone over ( odd huh ?).Well BOL to all

    Absolutely wrong info...IND @ PIT was OVER and ind won 24-20. IND @ HOU and covered 31-27 and that was OVER. Those are the two games that came to me right away when i saw your post...Please do not post wrong stats!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:56 PM ET #115

    I've never seen a bigger trap game. Jax +6, Jax ML
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    I've never seen a bigger trap game. Jax +6, Jax ML
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:58 PM ET #116

    Tease or no tease w/ this many injuries 2 key players on both sides of the ball for both teams L--K is a swear word, very naughty.
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    Tease or no tease w/ this many injuries 2 key players on both sides of the ball for both teams L--K is a swear word, very naughty.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 2:02 PM ET #117

    If Manning has a lead in the 4th quarter he will milk it until the cows come home and just get out of there with a win.  The Colts in a squeker ~3-4 points win.
    Take 2 pepto because you need a strong stomach for this:

    JAX +6.0

    GL ALL
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    If Manning has a lead in the 4th quarter he will milk it until the cows come home and just get out of there with a win.  The Colts in a squeker ~3-4 points win.
    Take 2 pepto because you need a strong stomach for this:

    JAX +6.0

    GL ALL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 2:09 PM ET #118

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    I am bigdaddyhpd and I support that message

    Looks like we're of different sides in this one my friend as I'm leaning Colts. Good luck tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

    I am bigdaddyhpd and I support that message

    Looks like we're of different sides in this one my friend as I'm leaning Colts. Good luck tonight

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 2:22 PM ET #119

    Seems like a "lay off" for me.....
    Trap implications going on.
     
     
     
    So, how 'bout that total??
     
    Lean the OVER  
     
    - weather: 59 and clear, light wind
    - JAX D not nearly up to par that is was LY
    - Colts D also suspect to the big play
    - Colts AVG 26 ppg last 6, take away that 10 point performance against Browns, and the AVG is 30 ppg
    - If Detroit put up 21 last week, we should see at least 17 to 21 out of the Jags tonite in this divisional battle
    - Jags amped up to perform at last home field game
     
     
     
    Hope Peyton keeps it rolling.
    Take the over!!!!
     
     
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    Seems like a "lay off" for me.....
    Trap implications going on.
     
     
     
    So, how 'bout that total??
     
    Lean the OVER  
     
    - weather: 59 and clear, light wind
    - JAX D not nearly up to par that is was LY
    - Colts D also suspect to the big play
    - Colts AVG 26 ppg last 6, take away that 10 point performance against Browns, and the AVG is 30 ppg
    - If Detroit put up 21 last week, we should see at least 17 to 21 out of the Jags tonite in this divisional battle
    - Jags amped up to perform at last home field game
     
     
     
    Hope Peyton keeps it rolling.
    Take the over!!!!
     
     
     
    hacmao
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 2:38 PM ET #120

    In Covers, the first thing i noticed in recent games between these two teams is they always scored more points the 2nd time they play each other. First time they met this year was 44 points total, therefore, u gotta like the over in this game.

    Looking more into the games this year, of the 7 games on the road, Indy has won 5 times ATS in the 2nd half but didn't do too well in the 1st half...seems like they start out slow on the road. For Jac, they lost 5 out of 7 games at home ATS both in the 1st and 2nd half.

    Indy is heading in the right direction and jax is not...your choice!

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    In Covers, the first thing i noticed in recent games between these two teams is they always scored more points the 2nd time they play each other. First time they met this year was 44 points total, therefore, u gotta like the over in this game.

    Looking more into the games this year, of the 7 games on the road, Indy has won 5 times ATS in the 2nd half but didn't do too well in the 1st half...seems like they start out slow on the road. For Jac, they lost 5 out of 7 games at home ATS both in the 1st and 2nd half.

    Indy is heading in the right direction and jax is not...your choice!

     
    SNIPER702
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 2:41 PM ET #121

    WOW, GREAT THREAD, LOTS OF INPUT.
    JACKSONVILLE HAS LAYED AN EGG ALL SEASON AND CONTINUE TO DO SO AGAIN TONIGHT. HISTORICALLY THESE TEAMS HAVE PLAYED CLOSE GAMES, BUT NOT THIS TIME, GIVE THE OLE' VEGAS SNIPER INDY -14
    GLTAWG
     
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    WOW, GREAT THREAD, LOTS OF INPUT.
    JACKSONVILLE HAS LAYED AN EGG ALL SEASON AND CONTINUE TO DO SO AGAIN TONIGHT. HISTORICALLY THESE TEAMS HAVE PLAYED CLOSE GAMES, BUT NOT THIS TIME, GIVE THE OLE' VEGAS SNIPER INDY -14
    GLTAWG
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 2:56 PM ET #122

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingDutchman:

    And Cincy tied the Eagles who beat the Giants, and the Cardinals...The Giants lost to the Browns...I could go around and around and around, just please tell me you dont make your betting decisions based on common opponents in the NFL....

    I'm not saying that at all. I was quoting Jackals quote because he said those are the teams that Indy beat. I never bet on a common opponent. All about match ups and the Jags do not match up well with the Colts right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingDutchman:

    And Cincy tied the Eagles who beat the Giants, and the Cardinals...The Giants lost to the Browns...I could go around and around and around, just please tell me you dont make your betting decisions based on common opponents in the NFL....

    I'm not saying that at all. I was quoting Jackals quote because he said those are the teams that Indy beat. I never bet on a common opponent. All about match ups and the Jags do not match up well with the Colts right now.

     
    kayslay26
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 3:04 PM ET #123

    Prop bet: Peyton Manning over/unda 23.5 pass compeltions...if adai plays im thinking unda? anyone else
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    Prop bet: Peyton Manning over/unda 23.5 pass compeltions...if adai plays im thinking unda? anyone else
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 3:28 PM ET #124

    I'm gonna have to my degenerate on and take the Colts at -5.5. Hopefully I can win some cash tonight been blowing way to much money in these east coast strip clubs this week. GL
     
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    I'm gonna have to my degenerate on and take the Colts at -5.5. Hopefully I can win some cash tonight been blowing way to much money in these east coast strip clubs this week. GL
     
     
     
    LTE23
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 3:28 PM ET #125

    THE MO DREW SHOW...Jax has nothing to loose and Del Rio plays Indy Real well they meet up 2x a year even if the records are sloppy this is a Div game. Looking for The colts to screw over the public like how they did with Clev on the road. GB on the Road. I hope the line moves up bc Im on

    JAX+6  MO DREWWWWW!!!
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    THE MO DREW SHOW...Jax has nothing to loose and Del Rio plays Indy Real well they meet up 2x a year even if the records are sloppy this is a Div game. Looking for The colts to screw over the public like how they did with Clev on the road. GB on the Road. I hope the line moves up bc Im on

    JAX+6  MO DREWWWWW!!!
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