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    Houston at New England (12/10/2012)

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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 3:26 PM ET #76

    Houston 34 at New England 27

    ""Insiders voicing concern about status of Pats' Offensive Line (allowed four sacks at Miami last week) vs. quality teams...after Brady & Co. have run up some big point totals vs. a series of foes with weak defense and/or turnover problems.

    Houston, with penetrating, pass-swatting DE J.J. Watt, with 15 sacks, and with only 12 giveaways all season, fits neither catagory."" (Gold Sheet Quote)

    Only recent comparison I could find is when New England lost to Baltimore 30-31.  But Houston able to blow-out Baltimore 43-13!

    New England 1-4 vs. spread their last 5 games in December!

    Houston 6-0 vs. point spread last 6 road games against a team with a winning home record!

    Texans now 6-0 vs. point spread as underdogs!

    Houston plus 3.5 to 5.5 over New England!   

     GL to ALL                               

     

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    Houston 34 at New England 27

    ""Insiders voicing concern about status of Pats' Offensive Line (allowed four sacks at Miami last week) vs. quality teams...after Brady & Co. have run up some big point totals vs. a series of foes with weak defense and/or turnover problems.

    Houston, with penetrating, pass-swatting DE J.J. Watt, with 15 sacks, and with only 12 giveaways all season, fits neither catagory."" (Gold Sheet Quote)

    Only recent comparison I could find is when New England lost to Baltimore 30-31.  But Houston able to blow-out Baltimore 43-13!

    New England 1-4 vs. spread their last 5 games in December!

    Houston 6-0 vs. point spread last 6 road games against a team with a winning home record!

    Texans now 6-0 vs. point spread as underdogs!

    Houston plus 3.5 to 5.5 over New England!   

     GL to ALL                               

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 3:27 PM ET #77

    NE over bettors will be riding trends of:

    NE over 37-14 in last 51 games
    NE over 19-7 in last 26 home games
    NE over 9-1 in last 10 overall

    NE===Oregon=====>>>>Over

    Plus Nat. Television (usually better for overs)
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    NE over bettors will be riding trends of:

    NE over 37-14 in last 51 games
    NE over 19-7 in last 26 home games
    NE over 9-1 in last 10 overall

    NE===Oregon=====>>>>Over

    Plus Nat. Television (usually better for overs)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 3:30 PM ET #78

    Also, with the Secondaries banged up for both teams,Over---large

    NE has no defense people


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    Also, with the Secondaries banged up for both teams,Over---large

    NE has no defense people


     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 3:37 PM ET #79

    After what GB, Jax, and Det did to Houston, what do you think Tom and Co. are going to do? Schaub's garbage, and the potential poor conditions favors NE. Only way Hou covers and/or wins is if Watt and the Houston d line get all over Brady. I don't think that will happen. 

    Pats -4
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    After what GB, Jax, and Det did to Houston, what do you think Tom and Co. are going to do? Schaub's garbage, and the potential poor conditions favors NE. Only way Hou covers and/or wins is if Watt and the Houston d line get all over Brady. I don't think that will happen. 

    Pats -4
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 3:38 PM ET #80

    And as far as the total, keep an eye on the weather. I like the over but if it's rainy and cold it'll make it tough to hit that high number. 
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    And as far as the total, keep an eye on the weather. I like the over but if it's rainy and cold it'll make it tough to hit that high number. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 3:45 PM ET #81

    WARNING

    DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHY THE SPREAD WENT FROM HOUSTON PLUS 4 TOO THEM GOING PLUS SIX IN A COUPLE OF HOURS???????????????

    IF ANYBODY WILL REAL INFO PLEASE INFORM ME. LETS STICK TOGETHER PEOPLE AND KILL THE BOOKIE

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    WARNING

    DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHY THE SPREAD WENT FROM HOUSTON PLUS 4 TOO THEM GOING PLUS SIX IN A COUPLE OF HOURS???????????????

    IF ANYBODY WILL REAL INFO PLEASE INFORM ME. LETS STICK TOGETHER PEOPLE AND KILL THE BOOKIE

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 3:59 PM ET #82

    Had my best NFL sunday in months Went 6-1 (only loss/Bears) LETS KEEP IT GOIN......Prediction: Patriots 26-Texans17
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    Had my best NFL sunday in months Went 6-1 (only loss/Bears) LETS KEEP IT GOIN......Prediction: Patriots 26-Texans17
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 4:03 PM ET #83

    make your own assesment!

     

    whos to know the ecact reason

    who says there is one

    5 pts is never a spread so 4 to 6 just like 7 to 9  is not massive difference.

     

    am on n.e -3.5 in parlays  and first half under.

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    make your own assesment!

     

    whos to know the ecact reason

    who says there is one

    5 pts is never a spread so 4 to 6 just like 7 to 9  is not massive difference.

     

    am on n.e -3.5 in parlays  and first half under.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 4:12 PM ET #84

    Under is the pick tonight, everyone and their mother is on the over, its gonna be pouring in foxborough with 15mph winds this game will stay under 52

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    Under is the pick tonight, everyone and their mother is on the over, its gonna be pouring in foxborough with 15mph winds this game will stay under 52

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 4:34 PM ET #85

    If the Texans don't get to TB then it's lights out.....I think with the wet surface the run game will not be so good tonight....over...should be some big plays
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    If the Texans don't get to TB then it's lights out.....I think with the wet surface the run game will not be so good tonight....over...should be some big plays
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 4:44 PM ET #86

    Just like the Pack at home last night and the Giants yesterday afternoon.......NE will win this game and cover.  Yes, Houston is 11-1.....should be 10-2....got out of Detroit with a gift on the 80 TD run that wasn't that reshaped that game!!!  Houston is hungery and has a better D for sure.....but NE is a team that has been in this spotlight so many times before and their second half season record since 2010 speaks for it's self.....I expect Tom Brady to light it up tonight and the NE defensive line to play above their heads for this game and keep Foster from taking over the game and keep enough pressure on Shaub that he makes a few mistakes that prove costly.  38-24 is what I am feeling on this game.  GL to all!!!
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    Just like the Pack at home last night and the Giants yesterday afternoon.......NE will win this game and cover.  Yes, Houston is 11-1.....should be 10-2....got out of Detroit with a gift on the 80 TD run that wasn't that reshaped that game!!!  Houston is hungery and has a better D for sure.....but NE is a team that has been in this spotlight so many times before and their second half season record since 2010 speaks for it's self.....I expect Tom Brady to light it up tonight and the NE defensive line to play above their heads for this game and keep Foster from taking over the game and keep enough pressure on Shaub that he makes a few mistakes that prove costly.  38-24 is what I am feeling on this game.  GL to all!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 4:52 PM ET #87

    Gotta be new England. Somebody on here saih
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    Gotta be new England. Somebody on here saih
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 4:53 PM ET #88

    Said Tom Brady was a fart and drove racecars. Really!!!???
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    Said Tom Brady was a fart and drove racecars. Really!!!???
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:01 PM ET #89

    1.the two games NE lost were to two good defensive teams and I think Hou. is a good enough defensive team.

    2. the line moves from 4 to 3 then moves up to 6, indicated heavy bets on NE

    TEXANS +6

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    1.the two games NE lost were to two good defensive teams and I think Hou. is a good enough defensive team.

    2. the line moves from 4 to 3 then moves up to 6, indicated heavy bets on NE

    TEXANS +6

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:04 PM ET #90

    3rd road game in a row for texans. Line begging for Texan dough!
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    3rd road game in a row for texans. Line begging for Texan dough!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:07 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitdudes:

    Oh and don't tell me he didnt have a D......the D is how they won in 03 and 04...
    h

    the defense was mediocre,  if you look back at those superbowls buddy you will see it was tom terrific that lead the game winning drive in each of those buddy the defense allowed almost 30 points in each of those superbowls. The guy is the greatess..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitdudes:

    Oh and don't tell me he didnt have a D......the D is how they won in 03 and 04...
    h

    the defense was mediocre,  if you look back at those superbowls buddy you will see it was tom terrific that lead the game winning drive in each of those buddy the defense allowed almost 30 points in each of those superbowls. The guy is the greatess..

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:12 PM ET #92

    I currently have in Pats at -2.5. Bought 1.5 yesterday when the line was 4. Now I see the Texans at +6 and have thoughts of taking a 5 point middle with the Texans at +7.5. Any thoughts on this??
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    I currently have in Pats at -2.5. Bought 1.5 yesterday when the line was 4. Now I see the Texans at +6 and have thoughts of taking a 5 point middle with the Texans at +7.5. Any thoughts on this??
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:13 PM ET #93

    Quote Originally Posted by cwaise:

    After what GB, Jax, and Det did to Houston, what do you think Tom and Co. are going to do? Schaub's garbage, and the potential poor conditions favors NE. Only way Hou covers and/or wins is if Watt and the Houston d line get all over Brady. I don't think that will happen. 

    Pats -4


    One of the most UNBIASED posts of all-time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cwaise:

    After what GB, Jax, and Det did to Houston, what do you think Tom and Co. are going to do? Schaub's garbage, and the potential poor conditions favors NE. Only way Hou covers and/or wins is if Watt and the Houston d line get all over Brady. I don't think that will happen. 

    Pats -4


    One of the most UNBIASED posts of all-time.



     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:14 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by DOC-HOLLIDAY-58:

    WARNING

    DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHY THE SPREAD WENT FROM HOUSTON PLUS 4 TOO THEM GOING PLUS SIX IN A COUPLE OF HOURS???????????????

    IF ANYBODY WILL REAL INFO PLEASE INFORM ME. LETS STICK TOGETHER PEOPLE AND KILL THE BOOKIE



    Because everyone and their mother-in-law is loading up on the Pats.

    UH
    OH.


    Houston +6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOC-HOLLIDAY-58:

    WARNING

    DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHY THE SPREAD WENT FROM HOUSTON PLUS 4 TOO THEM GOING PLUS SIX IN A COUPLE OF HOURS???????????????

    IF ANYBODY WILL REAL INFO PLEASE INFORM ME. LETS STICK TOGETHER PEOPLE AND KILL THE BOOKIE



    Because everyone and their mother-in-law is loading up on the Pats.

    UH
    OH.


    Houston +6.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:23 PM ET #95

    Pats and over  It should be a good game
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    Pats and over  It should be a good game
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:25 PM ET #96

    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but only 3 teams in NFL history have gone undefeated on the road in a single season.  The obvious 2 are the 72 Dolphins and the 07 Patriots. The 3rd team was the 1984 49ers.  Even the 85 Bears lost a road game at some point.  I guess the Texans could be the 4th team to do so if they win tonight and win at Indy in week 17, but how could you be crazy about their chances of accomplishing that feat, when some of the greatest teams of all time were unable to do so.    

    The Patriots also haven't lost a December home game since 2002, and haven't lost a home game this season since week 2. Why is this even a discussion? Plus, as the Dr Dog reminded us, this is the 3rd straight road game for the Texans. I know their last game was cake walk against the Titans, but I don't see why I should bet against all that NFL history on this one.  Unless the Texans are truly one of those great teams that only come around once in a generation.  Although, with their 19th ranked pass defense, I just can't feel comfortable comparing this team to one of those legendary teams. 

    Plus Belicheck had defensive linemen using racquetball racquets to emulate JJ Swat in practice. What more do you need to know? LOL.

    I don't know why the line has moved so much, but I'm glad I scooped it up at -3.  Cant feel too good for all the Texans backers that were chomping at the bit at +3.5 & +4. 

    I know Andre Johnson thinks its the most important game in franchise history, but shouldn't that have really been the playoff game they lost to Baltimore last year?  
      
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    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but only 3 teams in NFL history have gone undefeated on the road in a single season.  The obvious 2 are the 72 Dolphins and the 07 Patriots. The 3rd team was the 1984 49ers.  Even the 85 Bears lost a road game at some point.  I guess the Texans could be the 4th team to do so if they win tonight and win at Indy in week 17, but how could you be crazy about their chances of accomplishing that feat, when some of the greatest teams of all time were unable to do so.    

    The Patriots also haven't lost a December home game since 2002, and haven't lost a home game this season since week 2. Why is this even a discussion? Plus, as the Dr Dog reminded us, this is the 3rd straight road game for the Texans. I know their last game was cake walk against the Titans, but I don't see why I should bet against all that NFL history on this one.  Unless the Texans are truly one of those great teams that only come around once in a generation.  Although, with their 19th ranked pass defense, I just can't feel comfortable comparing this team to one of those legendary teams. 

    Plus Belicheck had defensive linemen using racquetball racquets to emulate JJ Swat in practice. What more do you need to know? LOL.

    I don't know why the line has moved so much, but I'm glad I scooped it up at -3.  Cant feel too good for all the Texans backers that were chomping at the bit at +3.5 & +4. 

    I know Andre Johnson thinks its the most important game in franchise history, but shouldn't that have really been the playoff game they lost to Baltimore last year?  
      
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:26 PM ET #97

    this will be a flat out under game,  thats if the texans dont get out to a fast quick strike. look for the texans to establish a running game and the pats to pass first run second,  it depends on the coin toss and who recieves the ball first.  If the texans get it first then look for them to milk the clock and if the pats get it look for them to air it out but the weather plays a big role here. I was leaning towards the pats to cover the 3.5  but now since it has gone up to 6  i am leaning towards the texans,  not sure yet

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    this will be a flat out under game,  thats if the texans dont get out to a fast quick strike. look for the texans to establish a running game and the pats to pass first run second,  it depends on the coin toss and who recieves the ball first.  If the texans get it first then look for them to milk the clock and if the pats get it look for them to air it out but the weather plays a big role here. I was leaning towards the pats to cover the 3.5  but now since it has gone up to 6  i am leaning towards the texans,  not sure yet

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:34 PM ET #98

    Line opened at +5...sharps took it down to +3.5. Late $$ sunday night pushed it back up to +6. Thank you public!!

    We all know about Pats history and it's plastered all over the net and sports radio.

    Texans didn't win 11 games by being lucky. They played good defense, ball controlled, and they don't shoot themselves in the foot w/turnovers.

    Wilford is the run stuffer for the Pats but Texans don't run up the middle. That takes away the Pats best run stopper.

    Schaub won 15/16 games and Foster/Tate will manage the clock for the Texans to keep Brady on the sideline.

    Backdoor +6 and sprinkling some on Texans ML for value!!

     

     

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    Line opened at +5...sharps took it down to +3.5. Late $$ sunday night pushed it back up to +6. Thank you public!!

    We all know about Pats history and it's plastered all over the net and sports radio.

    Texans didn't win 11 games by being lucky. They played good defense, ball controlled, and they don't shoot themselves in the foot w/turnovers.

    Wilford is the run stuffer for the Pats but Texans don't run up the middle. That takes away the Pats best run stopper.

    Schaub won 15/16 games and Foster/Tate will manage the clock for the Texans to keep Brady on the sideline.

    Backdoor +6 and sprinkling some on Texans ML for value!!

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:35 PM ET #99

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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2012 - 5:38 PM ET #100

    As long as its not windy, the OVER will hit.  The Patriots should win SU, but its teaser time. 

    This is before the line moved to 6. 6.5 teaser is the way to go. Just wish I would have waited for the line move. 

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    As long as its not windy, the OVER will hit.  The Patriots should win SU, but its teaser time. 

    This is before the line moved to 6. 6.5 teaser is the way to go. Just wish I would have waited for the line move. 

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