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    Arizona at St. Louis (10/04/2012)

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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2012 - 10:03 AM ET #1

    Away:  Arizona [3-1 ATS]
    Home:  St. Louis [3-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Edward Jones Dome

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kevin Kolb (752)
    Rushing: Ryan Williams (131)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (245)

    St. Louis:
    Passing: Sam Bradford (881)
    Rushing: Steven Jackson (195)
    Receiving: Danny Amendola (351)

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    Away:  Arizona [3-1 ATS]
    Home:  St. Louis [3-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:20 PM
    Stadium: Edward Jones Dome

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Arizona:
    Passing: Kevin Kolb (752)
    Rushing: Ryan Williams (131)
    Receiving: Larry Fitzgerald (245)

    St. Louis:
    Passing: Sam Bradford (881)
    Rushing: Steven Jackson (195)
    Receiving: Danny Amendola (351)

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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 1:34 AM ET #2

    Over 38.5

    (YTD: 21-12-1) 63.6%

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    Over 38.5

    (YTD: 21-12-1) 63.6%

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 2:41 AM ET #3

    Week #4

    6 wins/2 losers (75%)

    YTD: 21-12-1 (63.6%)

    winners

    St. Louis, St. Louis/Seattle Under, SF/NYJ Under, Washington, Philadelphia, and Dallas/Chicago Over

    Note: Philadelphia -1 (opening line) Posted first on 9/24/2012.  Later the line moved to -2 (Push)

    losers

    Jacksonville and Detroit

    GL to all in week #5

     

     

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    Week #4

    6 wins/2 losers (75%)

    YTD: 21-12-1 (63.6%)

    winners

    St. Louis, St. Louis/Seattle Under, SF/NYJ Under, Washington, Philadelphia, and Dallas/Chicago Over

    Note: Philadelphia -1 (opening line) Posted first on 9/24/2012.  Later the line moved to -2 (Push)

    losers

    Jacksonville and Detroit

    GL to all in week #5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 3:06 AM ET #4

    Ari 24

    St Louis 21

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    Ari 24

    St Louis 21

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 7:45 AM ET #5

    think rams will pull this one out and get the cover.
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    think rams will pull this one out and get the cover.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 10:10 AM ET #6

    Rams by field goal
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    Rams by field goal
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 10:27 AM ET #7

    The lousy fish gave the Cards all they could handle - at home, mind you - while the Rams took care of the defense strong Seahawks. Short week, Arizona on the road is historically pretty bad. I think their first loss comes here.....

    Lambs M/L

    and probably over 38 too - since the short weeks seem to tire the defenses more............

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    The lousy fish gave the Cards all they could handle - at home, mind you - while the Rams took care of the defense strong Seahawks. Short week, Arizona on the road is historically pretty bad. I think their first loss comes here.....

    Lambs M/L

    and probably over 38 too - since the short weeks seem to tire the defenses more............

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 10:45 AM ET #8

    Arizona, by the eyeball test, looks clearly like the better team.

    So why aren't the Rams getting more than a point here?

    History?
    Trends?
    Jeff Fisher?

    This feels like either an Arizona come on, or somebody knows something I don't about how good the Rams are.

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    Arizona, by the eyeball test, looks clearly like the better team.

    So why aren't the Rams getting more than a point here?

    History?
    Trends?
    Jeff Fisher?

    This feels like either an Arizona come on, or somebody knows something I don't about how good the Rams are.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 11:12 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by angrytiger:

    Arizona, by the eyeball test, looks clearly like the better team.

    So why aren't the Rams getting more than a point here?

    History?
    Trends?
    Jeff Fisher?

    This feels like either an Arizona come on, or somebody knows something I don't about how good the Rams are.


    Hope team advantage. Rams aren't strong enough to be a 3 point favorite against the cards....
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrytiger:

    Arizona, by the eyeball test, looks clearly like the better team.

    So why aren't the Rams getting more than a point here?

    History?
    Trends?
    Jeff Fisher?

    This feels like either an Arizona come on, or somebody knows something I don't about how good the Rams are.


    Hope team advantage. Rams aren't strong enough to be a 3 point favorite against the cards....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 11:14 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by vietdeity86:


    Hope team advantage. Rams aren't strong enough to be a 3 point favorite against the cards....

    What I meant was CARDS aren't strong enough to be 3 point favorites..... with rams being at home and all. Rams are 2-0 at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vietdeity86:


    Hope team advantage. Rams aren't strong enough to be a 3 point favorite against the cards....

    What I meant was CARDS aren't strong enough to be 3 point favorites..... with rams being at home and all. Rams are 2-0 at home.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 12:21 PM ET #11

     

    Cards 17

    StL. 24

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    Cards 17

    StL. 24

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 12:53 PM ET #12

     Bye Golly- Fisher has finally got these "lambs" playing some ball. I feel they won't dissappoint the home crowd or the prime audience.

    ST LOUIS    + 1

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     Bye Golly- Fisher has finally got these "lambs" playing some ball. I feel they won't dissappoint the home crowd or the prime audience.

    ST LOUIS    + 1

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 12:53 PM ET #13

    Bradford has never played an NFL Thursday night game so it's going to be interesting to see how he performs on the short week.
    ARZ has to lose sooner or later and this just seems like a spot where they come out flat.
    Either way the under could be the way to go here.
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    Bradford has never played an NFL Thursday night game so it's going to be interesting to see how he performs on the short week.
    ARZ has to lose sooner or later and this just seems like a spot where they come out flat.
    Either way the under could be the way to go here.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 1:54 PM ET #14

    Kolb gets hurt in the 2nd quarter.
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    Kolb gets hurt in the 2nd quarter.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 2:19 PM ET #15

    As I have said before.. teams that play on a short week tend to keep to the basics, pound the ball, short passes and keep the clock moving, end the game as soon as possible to rest up then 10 days of prep for their next game. Been riding the Under on the Thursday games as the public keeps betting it over to make it easy with the inflated lines. This week looks right on at 38 right now :( I guess the books are learning.

    However, this week I feel like this the TNF game could be a messy, bunch of turnovers, sloppy defense kinda game to push it over..just a feeling though. I was hoping for a line of 41/42 to make it a 7/8 scoring possession type game for a more "comfortable" under bet.

    Hmm.. I will wait till kickoff to see where the public falls.. then either pass on the game or bet the under.

    I do kinda like STL dog at home, no travel. These two teams no each other well, so not much prep needs to be done. AZ coming east after an emotional win.
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    As I have said before.. teams that play on a short week tend to keep to the basics, pound the ball, short passes and keep the clock moving, end the game as soon as possible to rest up then 10 days of prep for their next game. Been riding the Under on the Thursday games as the public keeps betting it over to make it easy with the inflated lines. This week looks right on at 38 right now :( I guess the books are learning.

    However, this week I feel like this the TNF game could be a messy, bunch of turnovers, sloppy defense kinda game to push it over..just a feeling though. I was hoping for a line of 41/42 to make it a 7/8 scoring possession type game for a more "comfortable" under bet.

    Hmm.. I will wait till kickoff to see where the public falls.. then either pass on the game or bet the under.

    I do kinda like STL dog at home, no travel. These two teams no each other well, so not much prep needs to be done. AZ coming east after an emotional win.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 3:00 PM ET #16

    Thursday Night = Home Team and Under statistically. However, I think the total is set a little low. Gonna take a long look at this game and watch the line movement.
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    Thursday Night = Home Team and Under statistically. However, I think the total is set a little low. Gonna take a long look at this game and watch the line movement.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 3:51 PM ET #17

    3rd road game in a row for Cards and last one was a come from behind effort going overtime. I'm concerned that Rams have a hard time finding the end zone but will side with the home dogs.
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    3rd road game in a row for Cards and last one was a come from behind effort going overtime. I'm concerned that Rams have a hard time finding the end zone but will side with the home dogs.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 4:16 PM ET #18

    Arizona squeaked by Miami in OT at home, Miami of all teams!!! OT wins are draining on any team. Now on a short week traveling to St. Louis I don't think the Cards are going to be ready for this game. 

     Kolb sacked 8 times and 2 interceptions, I think we are starting to see the real Kolb and zona team coming out now.

     IMO I think the Rams are going to be pumped playing primetime and this will be a let down game for Arizona.

    I'm leaning Rams ML.

     But hey, this is just my opinion and i been sucking ass this season with my picks
    BOL on whatever you decide

    Gotta go pee!
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    Arizona squeaked by Miami in OT at home, Miami of all teams!!! OT wins are draining on any team. Now on a short week traveling to St. Louis I don't think the Cards are going to be ready for this game. 

     Kolb sacked 8 times and 2 interceptions, I think we are starting to see the real Kolb and zona team coming out now.

     IMO I think the Rams are going to be pumped playing primetime and this will be a let down game for Arizona.

    I'm leaning Rams ML.

     But hey, this is just my opinion and i been sucking ass this season with my picks
    BOL on whatever you decide

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 4:48 PM ET #19

    Rams offense is horrible....this typically would be a good sport for taking a "home dog"....but come on.  I would lean towards arizona...and would also lean towards the under....you know what they say, bet with the streaks, not against them.  The first four thursday games have all gone under the total.  Both these teams have decent defenses and the rams have NO offense.  Year in and year out the rams have a pathetic draft....with either bad choices, injuries...and/or busts.  It's sick to think they could have drafted Suh instead of bradford, then Luck or RG3 this year.  Oh well.  Isn't it strange how some teams always have good drafts and make decent free agent acquisitions and others continually screw it up?  Will the rams and browns ever be relevant in the NFL? lol.

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    Rams offense is horrible....this typically would be a good sport for taking a "home dog"....but come on.  I would lean towards arizona...and would also lean towards the under....you know what they say, bet with the streaks, not against them.  The first four thursday games have all gone under the total.  Both these teams have decent defenses and the rams have NO offense.  Year in and year out the rams have a pathetic draft....with either bad choices, injuries...and/or busts.  It's sick to think they could have drafted Suh instead of bradford, then Luck or RG3 this year.  Oh well.  Isn't it strange how some teams always have good drafts and make decent free agent acquisitions and others continually screw it up?  Will the rams and browns ever be relevant in the NFL? lol.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 5:56 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by JinnRikki:

    3rd road game in a row for Cards and last one was a come from behind effort going overtime. I'm concerned that Rams have a hard time finding the end zone but will side with the home dogs.

    LAST 2 Arizona games were HOME GAMES......
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    Quote Originally Posted by JinnRikki:

    3rd road game in a row for Cards and last one was a come from behind effort going overtime. I'm concerned that Rams have a hard time finding the end zone but will side with the home dogs.

    LAST 2 Arizona games were HOME GAMES......
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 7:12 PM ET #21

    OVER for me, i thinking St Louis at home will put up some points and I know Arz will have their points. Both teams avg 20+ points on OFF and give up that many on Ds. So if number stays under 40 im all over the over. Might become a shoot out in second half if low scoring in 1St half. IMO  GL to u all what ever your on.
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    OVER for me, i thinking St Louis at home will put up some points and I know Arz will have their points. Both teams avg 20+ points on OFF and give up that many on Ds. So if number stays under 40 im all over the over. Might become a shoot out in second half if low scoring in 1St half. IMO  GL to u all what ever your on.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 8:36 PM ET #22

    lean Rams +1 ARZ should've lost last week to Dolphins. Rams are a different team at home, if comes to FG like the Rams kicker better than Feely
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    lean Rams +1 ARZ should've lost last week to Dolphins. Rams are a different team at home, if comes to FG like the Rams kicker better than Feely
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 8:51 PM ET #23

    I liked the Lams last week and I like em again..dont ask me why i just do..I Think the rams are a little bit better then we all expect...Another tight one. Lams 20- Cards- 17
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    I liked the Lams last week and I like em again..dont ask me why i just do..I Think the rams are a little bit better then we all expect...Another tight one. Lams 20- Cards- 17
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 9:09 PM ET #24

    tough game to call.. inital lean on the Rams in this one..
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    tough game to call.. inital lean on the Rams in this one..
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2012 - 10:23 PM ET #25

    accorinding to the trend ill go for ari+under
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    accorinding to the trend ill go for ari+under
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