very good write-up by CMJ... it is very noticeable how the people riding the Hornets in this game are doing it based on a HUGE amount of statistical data to support it... while the people riding the Spurs are doing it based SOLELY on the experience factor...
he did bring up the one thing i think can make a big difference and hurt NO, and that is the David West injury... West has been huge for them in the games at home, and a big reason they have won those games... if he has to leave the game due to his back NO could be in trouble...
but, if West plays the whole game... Hornets win this game... flat out!
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very good write-up by CMJ... it is very noticeable how the people riding the Hornets in this game are doing it based on a HUGE amount of statistical data to support it... while the people riding the Spurs are doing it based SOLELY on the experience factor...
he did bring up the one thing i think can make a big difference and hurt NO, and that is the David West injury... West has been huge for them in the games at home, and a big reason they have won those games... if he has to leave the game due to his back NO could be in trouble...
but, if West plays the whole game... Hornets win this game... flat out!
once more for the cheap seats... in the history of the NBA playoffs, there have been 21 quarterfinal series in which the first 5 games were won by the home team... all 21 of those series were won by the team with home court advantage...
the Spurs are trying to buck a trend that is 21-0... you want to bet against that? not wise...
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once more for the cheap seats... in the history of the NBA playoffs, there have been 21 quarterfinal series in which the first 5 games were won by the home team... all 21 of those series were won by the team with home court advantage...
the Spurs are trying to buck a trend that is 21-0... you want to bet against that? not wise...
HELL YA , save a seat at the bar for me, im there.
Im feeling the exact same way............. GL to all
Thanks for the picks from you know who. I already placed the same bets last night (had to do it as I was concerned the lines will go up today). It's good to see I'm on the page as you guys...GL to us!
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Quote Originally Posted by ZigZack:
HELL YA , save a seat at the bar for me, im there.
Im feeling the exact same way............. GL to all
Thanks for the picks from you know who. I already placed the same bets last night (had to do it as I was concerned the lines will go up today). It's good to see I'm on the page as you guys...GL to us!
Chris Paul is a special kind of player, the rare type that makes EVERYONE on the court better...unlike LeBron James...and for the most part unlike Kobe Bryant. The biggest factor that could hurt the Hornets is the health of David West. If he is able to give anywhere above 70% I think they will be fine.
We saw it yesterday with the Celtics/Cavs game...the home team wins...and just like everyone keeps saying....
WHAT HAS CHANGED??
Spurs +2 first half OVER 92 1st half Hornets -4 game OVER 183 game
Prediction:
Spurs 48 Hornets 47 Halftime
Hornets 102 Spurs 90 Final
great analysis CMJ... I've been saying all along that CP3 is one of those game changers just like LeBron and Kobe in terms of the impact he can have on the game, irrespective of their different skill sets. The one thing I have to disagree on as a point of the matter is that any year previously, I'd agree with you on kobe, but as an avid laker fan and having seen him a lot this year, the only reason he didn't average 2+ more assists per game is because the whole team passed so well. Either way, Kobe must be recognized as a facilitator every bit as much so as a scorer. He DOES make that whole team much better, just like CP3 does, he's just a bigger, stronger finisher who is harder to guard in account with his size....
anyways... Like your plays... I'm going to add that first half over, given the way that the spurs come out and attack early.
One suggestion I would have is to make a double result play on spurs 1st half/ horny's game... Sportsbook.com offers them at least, i don't know what you use, but for something that has hit in the 3 NO based games this series, a +500 payout is a great play for even just a small investment.
good luck though man.
NO -4 (big) NO team total OVER 93.5 1st half over 91.5
Double result play "SA 1st half/NO game" (smaller play at +500)
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Quote Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:
Chris Paul is a special kind of player, the rare type that makes EVERYONE on the court better...unlike LeBron James...and for the most part unlike Kobe Bryant. The biggest factor that could hurt the Hornets is the health of David West. If he is able to give anywhere above 70% I think they will be fine.
We saw it yesterday with the Celtics/Cavs game...the home team wins...and just like everyone keeps saying....
WHAT HAS CHANGED??
Spurs +2 first half OVER 92 1st half Hornets -4 game OVER 183 game
Prediction:
Spurs 48 Hornets 47 Halftime
Hornets 102 Spurs 90 Final
great analysis CMJ... I've been saying all along that CP3 is one of those game changers just like LeBron and Kobe in terms of the impact he can have on the game, irrespective of their different skill sets. The one thing I have to disagree on as a point of the matter is that any year previously, I'd agree with you on kobe, but as an avid laker fan and having seen him a lot this year, the only reason he didn't average 2+ more assists per game is because the whole team passed so well. Either way, Kobe must be recognized as a facilitator every bit as much so as a scorer. He DOES make that whole team much better, just like CP3 does, he's just a bigger, stronger finisher who is harder to guard in account with his size....
anyways... Like your plays... I'm going to add that first half over, given the way that the spurs come out and attack early.
One suggestion I would have is to make a double result play on spurs 1st half/ horny's game... Sportsbook.com offers them at least, i don't know what you use, but for something that has hit in the 3 NO based games this series, a +500 payout is a great play for even just a small investment.
good luck though man.
NO -4 (big) NO team total OVER 93.5 1st half over 91.5
Double result play "SA 1st half/NO game" (smaller play at +500)
Johnson, your haltime score for yesterday's game was eerily close. I mean the fact that the total was right on but each team had a difference of 1 in that dept is insane. For whatever reason though I'd stay away from first half plays on either side for this one and just say that David West, CP3, and Tyson will be ready to roll in this one. I'm not going to say that taking the Spurs +2 first half is wrong at all but this feels the safest to me tonight.
HORNETS -4
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Johnson, your haltime score for yesterday's game was eerily close. I mean the fact that the total was right on but each team had a difference of 1 in that dept is insane. For whatever reason though I'd stay away from first half plays on either side for this one and just say that David West, CP3, and Tyson will be ready to roll in this one. I'm not going to say that taking the Spurs +2 first half is wrong at all but this feels the safest to me tonight.
it seems like everyone and their mother is on the Over in this game, yet the line has not changed. Don't get me wrong, i feel the over after the worst moose job in the last game. So what im asking is, am I over thinking this? Should I just go with the gut and take the over?
No. Contrary opinion, game goes under.
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Quote Originally Posted by Novalax:
it seems like everyone and their mother is on the Over in this game, yet the line has not changed. Don't get me wrong, i feel the over after the worst moose job in the last game. So what im asking is, am I over thinking this? Should I just go with the gut and take the over?
great analysis CMJ... I've been saying all along that CP3 is one of those game changers just like LeBron and Kobe in terms of the impact he can have on the game, irrespective of their different skill sets. The one thing I have to disagree on as a point of the matter is that any year previously, I'd agree with you on kobe, but as an avid laker fan and having seen him a lot this year, the only reason he didn't average 2+ more assists per game is because the whole team passed so well. Either way, Kobe must be recognized as a facilitator every bit as much so as a scorer. He DOES make that whole team much better, just like CP3 does, he's just a bigger, stronger finisher who is harder to guard in account with his size....
anyways... Like your plays... I'm going to add that first half over, given the way that the spurs come out and attack early.
One suggestion I would have is to make a double result play on spurs 1st half/ horny's game... Sportsbook.com offers them at least, i don't know what you use, but for something that has hit in the 3 NO based games this series, a +500 payout is a great play for even just a small investment.
good luck though man.
NO -4 (big) NO team total OVER 93.5 1st half over 91.5
Double result play "SA 1st half/NO game" (smaller play at +500)
That's why I said FOR THE MOST PART Kobe Wang. This year he has been much improved in sharing the basketball and making everyone else better. Until he does it for the entire playoffs however, and in a big game with high pressure, I still consider him closer to LeBron than CP3 in that aspect. The reason the Cavs didn't win yesterday was their entire offense for the 4th quarter was get it into LeBron and go to the other side of the court. I actually wanted James to score 40+ in that game because I knew that the rest of the team wouldn't be stepping up.
IMO, Pargo, West, Chandler, Peterson...the only reason we know who they are is CP3. David West is a good player...with CP3 he's an all-star. As far as experience, it just means you know what to expect, experience can't play the games for you.
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Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:
great analysis CMJ... I've been saying all along that CP3 is one of those game changers just like LeBron and Kobe in terms of the impact he can have on the game, irrespective of their different skill sets. The one thing I have to disagree on as a point of the matter is that any year previously, I'd agree with you on kobe, but as an avid laker fan and having seen him a lot this year, the only reason he didn't average 2+ more assists per game is because the whole team passed so well. Either way, Kobe must be recognized as a facilitator every bit as much so as a scorer. He DOES make that whole team much better, just like CP3 does, he's just a bigger, stronger finisher who is harder to guard in account with his size....
anyways... Like your plays... I'm going to add that first half over, given the way that the spurs come out and attack early.
One suggestion I would have is to make a double result play on spurs 1st half/ horny's game... Sportsbook.com offers them at least, i don't know what you use, but for something that has hit in the 3 NO based games this series, a +500 payout is a great play for even just a small investment.
good luck though man.
NO -4 (big) NO team total OVER 93.5 1st half over 91.5
Double result play "SA 1st half/NO game" (smaller play at +500)
That's why I said FOR THE MOST PART Kobe Wang. This year he has been much improved in sharing the basketball and making everyone else better. Until he does it for the entire playoffs however, and in a big game with high pressure, I still consider him closer to LeBron than CP3 in that aspect. The reason the Cavs didn't win yesterday was their entire offense for the 4th quarter was get it into LeBron and go to the other side of the court. I actually wanted James to score 40+ in that game because I knew that the rest of the team wouldn't be stepping up.
IMO, Pargo, West, Chandler, Peterson...the only reason we know who they are is CP3. David West is a good player...with CP3 he's an all-star. As far as experience, it just means you know what to expect, experience can't play the games for you.
Johnson, your haltime score for yesterday's game was eerily close. I mean the fact that the total was right on but each team had a difference of 1 in that dept is insane. For whatever reason though I'd stay away from first half plays on either side for this one and just say that David West, CP3, and Tyson will be ready to roll in this one. I'm not going to say that taking the Spurs +2 first half is wrong at all but this feels the safest to me tonight.
HORNETS -4
I'm 5-1 in 1st half picks this series Cgizzle...been one of the easiest picks so far. EVERY game has gone the same exact way. Close at half, home team blows out 2nd half
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Quote Originally Posted by Cgizzle41:
Johnson, your haltime score for yesterday's game was eerily close. I mean the fact that the total was right on but each team had a difference of 1 in that dept is insane. For whatever reason though I'd stay away from first half plays on either side for this one and just say that David West, CP3, and Tyson will be ready to roll in this one. I'm not going to say that taking the Spurs +2 first half is wrong at all but this feels the safest to me tonight.
HORNETS -4
I'm 5-1 in 1st half picks this series Cgizzle...been one of the easiest picks so far. EVERY game has gone the same exact way. Close at half, home team blows out 2nd half
Took a beating yesterday....... But seeing Pronk, Odubiousone, Wangichu and CMJOHNSON and rekamyenom on same page makes me feel better about what I'm taking.. Spurs 1st Q and HT... Over for game and HT.. NO -4 1/2 and ML and over NO point total... Now lets kick back drink some beers and enjoy this game...
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Took a beating yesterday....... But seeing Pronk, Odubiousone, Wangichu and CMJOHNSON and rekamyenom on same page makes me feel better about what I'm taking.. Spurs 1st Q and HT... Over for game and HT.. NO -4 1/2 and ML and over NO point total... Now lets kick back drink some beers and enjoy this game...
We saw it yesterday with the Celtics/Cavs game...the home team wins...and just like everyone keeps saying....
WHAT HAS CHANGED??
Spurs +2 first half OVER 92 1st half Hornets -4 game OVER 183 game
Prediction:
Spurs 48 Hornets 47 Halftime
Hornets 102 Spurs 90 Final
CMJ May be joining you on the Spurs 1stH. If all goes as it has been going in this series and in the Play-Offs.... Then all should go the way it has been going. Period. The Spurs have lead at the 1/2 in 5 out of 6 in this series. So the logical value is the Spurs +2 1stH
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Quote Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:
We saw it yesterday with the Celtics/Cavs game...the home team wins...and just like everyone keeps saying....
WHAT HAS CHANGED??
Spurs +2 first half OVER 92 1st half Hornets -4 game OVER 183 game
Prediction:
Spurs 48 Hornets 47 Halftime
Hornets 102 Spurs 90 Final
CMJ May be joining you on the Spurs 1stH. If all goes as it has been going in this series and in the Play-Offs.... Then all should go the way it has been going. Period. The Spurs have lead at the 1/2 in 5 out of 6 in this series. So the logical value is the Spurs +2 1stH
CMJ May be joining you on the Spurs 1stH. If all goes as it has been going in this series and in the Play-Offs.... Then all should go the way it has been going. Period. The Spurs have lead at the 1/2 in 5 out of 6 in this series. So the logical value is the Spurs +2 1stH
Join him, join him...
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Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:
CMJ May be joining you on the Spurs 1stH. If all goes as it has been going in this series and in the Play-Offs.... Then all should go the way it has been going. Period. The Spurs have lead at the 1/2 in 5 out of 6 in this series. So the logical value is the Spurs +2 1stH
Spurs +4.5 (2 units) vs. Hornets - I hate the Spurs but I gotta hand it to them this year, I really didn't think they had enough in the tank to make a run in the playoffs. They'll basically do whatever it takes to keep going as evidenced by Big Shot Bob's foul on David West recently. Other examples include last year and this year against the Suns and how "physical" the Spurs players were, and how the "lack" of fouls called on them affected the game. I think New Orleans is David Sterns darling this year... they had an excellent show for the All-Star game, have the COY, a runner-up MVP candidate, and a very well balanced team. I still think it'll be a close game though and that's why I'll side with the extra few buckets, or garbage time FTs if you will.
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Spurs +4.5 (2 units) vs. Hornets - I hate the Spurs but I gotta hand it to them this year, I really didn't think they had enough in the tank to make a run in the playoffs. They'll basically do whatever it takes to keep going as evidenced by Big Shot Bob's foul on David West recently. Other examples include last year and this year against the Suns and how "physical" the Spurs players were, and how the "lack" of fouls called on them affected the game. I think New Orleans is David Sterns darling this year... they had an excellent show for the All-Star game, have the COY, a runner-up MVP candidate, and a very well balanced team. I still think it'll be a close game though and that's why I'll side with the extra few buckets, or garbage time FTs if you will.
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GL to all
for all of you who have the over, lets get it DONE tonight boys! i mean, big game for me idk bout the rest of u
Now lets kick back drink some beers and enjoy this game...
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