Well that didn't take long.................

Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

Thank you for reminding us you have no substance behind your beliefs.

They are all based on emotion

Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



Yeah...you got that right, my LIBERAL emotion, what does substance mean anyway?

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

the second amendment means what the big corporations that benefit from it say it means.  but i don't see how that answer the question.  sure, if the question was about taking all guns away, then the second amendment would be one of several responses.  but what is the reason not to ban assault rifles.?

Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:



How do you properly defend against Tyranny if the tyrant is the one with all of the far superior guns?

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



if the us government is getting "tyrannical" with you, you aren't doing jackshit with your guns other than getting blown away or spending a long time in prison. 

you would have had a better chance of a better alternative in the 1700's.  not as much in 2012.

Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:



Id say that the mere 'idea' that the smart among us have guns helps to keep any potential tyrants at bay.

I just need to make sure that I don't have too many liberal neighbors that have only abortion tools to defend themselves/ us.

Anyone else find it amazingly ironic that many of covers liberals are up in arms over these children that were massacred, yet easily give any woman the right to rip a baby to shreds before birth?

Any statistics as to how many children have been snuffed out by their own flesh and blood vs.children that have been massacred by strangers?

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



as to the first part, i disagree but if the government ever comes down on you, make sure you let us know how you held them off.  i'm going to watch the original red dawn in the meantime.

as to the question about irony, again, i'm not sure why you big government rightwingers completely ignore the idea that a woman doesn't want your nanny state government making decisions about what they do with their bodies.  but i see the results in the latest election.  and i think you equate children runnign around, going to school with human cells and/or fetuses in a woman's body.  that must be some sort of foxnews science. 

what i do find ironic is the sanctity of life crowd pretending to give a garbage about those humna cells or fetuses (until they are born of course) but completely ignoring how their love for big government places our actual huma soldiers in countries for no reason only to watch them get killed.  it's also ironic how the sanctity of life crowd are also normally pro death penalty when it has been established that innocent people have been executed from death row.  they may have been black though and i know how sanctity of life and family values can change based on skin color.  of course, another example would be all those darker skinned kids and innocent people we've killed in those a-rab countries all in the name of politicians getting elected and funneling big government defense money to defense firms. 

Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:



Id say that the mere 'idea' that the smart among us have guns helps to keep any potential tyrants at bay.

I just need to make sure that I don't have too many liberal neighbors that have only abortion tools to defend themselves/ us.

Anyone else find it amazingly ironic that many of covers liberals are up in arms over these children that were massacred, yet easily give any woman the right to rip a baby to shreds before birth?

Any statistics as to how many children have been snuffed out by their own flesh and blood vs.children that have been massacred by strangers?

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




anyway, your entire right wing extremist mentality is contradictory.  

Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:



Id say that the mere 'idea' that the smart among us have guns helps to keep any potential tyrants at bay.

I just need to make sure that I don't have too many liberal neighbors that have only abortion tools to defend themselves/ us.

Anyone else find it amazingly ironic that many of covers liberals are up in arms over these children that were massacred, yet easily give any woman the right to rip a baby to shreds before birth?

Any statistics as to how many children have been snuffed out by their own flesh and blood vs.children that have been massacred by strangers?

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

not at all, i assume a fetus has a heartbeat.  i was responding to your overzealous remark calling them children.  that's what i do, but always in response to someone else.  do you see how that works?  overzealous characterizations are for people with extreme positions that need to justify them, i.e. calling human cells or fetuses children.  then i will make my own, the only difference is i'm friggin with people who do it and i know it.


anyway, your first two sentences are contradictory.  

Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

I feel it's ironic that righties who want less govt interference in their lives feel the need for govt to dictate to others. By the way abortion has been going on since before Christ.

Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

 

I found it equally ironic that a lot those pro-lifes have no problem whatsoever with the death penalty even knowing full well the majority of them weren't defended properly and in some cases, were exonerated through DNA evidences while on death roll. Hard to imagine those pre-DNA days.......

Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:



Silly that you don't understand politics well enough to understand what conservatives stand for. LIMITED GOVERNMENT. Not NO GOVERNMENT.

Going on for years should not be confused as an argument for right or wrong.

Women's oppression had been going on for the same amount of time. Do you see that as justification?

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



limited government when it's something they don't like (welfare to dark people, gun control, etc) and huge, huge, infinite government when it something they do like (patriot act, corporate welfare, controlling women's bodies, telling people who they can marry, war on drugs, search and seizure, i could go on and on). 

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

i'm not sure i understand, the human cells or fetus is not part of the woman's body, like a colostomy bag?

Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:



Is the fetus full of only garbage?