way to go wisconsin

Quote Originally Posted by be easy:



wow you just blew my mind. I mean i know that people think like that, but reading it in that context just about made me sick. You are ok with a system that says that information is something to be horded, unless you pay someone top dollar to share it?

I am of the opinion that the only thing humans have proven to do with surplus wages is to bid up land values/house prices. You double a teachers salary, and they will absolutely at least double their mortgage. I'd lay -400.  So long as this happens, there is no amount that will ever be enough. What people need for a wage to be a living wage is affordable housing. Your economy shows health because Canadian house prices were not bid up to the obscene levels of most of the rest of the free world, and there is no mortgage interest deduction to encourage such activity. That and the movement of your currency relative to the USD.

Be Easy, my socialist Canadian counterpart is a greedy fucking government parasite.

The reality is Ontario is headed into unchartered waters, severely damaged by the recession we've implemented higher taxes (HST 13%) and extremely high energy costs along with seven years of an incompetent provincial government that are spending money like drunken sailors . Going forward I really do not share this clown's optimism that he thinks is in place for this province. Maybe for the the other provinces in Canada but not in cash strapped Ontario. Higher taxes and higher interest rates due to this dipshit and his public sector union cronies salary demands have caused further economic damage in Ontario. The only people who have money to spend are the civil service sector, most of whom have been granted raises beyond the time frame of the wage restraints announced by this province, therefore no real wage restraints at all. Nope Ontario isn't part of the rosy forecast.  

Quote Originally Posted by Greyhound:

There is bus drivers in Wisconsin making over $150,000 a year.   

No wonder our countyry is so fucked up, its dopes like this guy who doesnt even know how to read or just doesnt understand what he reads.

His normal wage is 59,000 a year, he made 100,000 in overtime. Is the guy supposed to turn down the overtime?  Would you turn down the overtime?

Its pretty clear if this guy is making that much in overtime, they dont have enough bus drivers on the job.  Lets see pretty easy solution. Hire more drivers then the overtyime will go down or dont hire the drivers and just pay the overtime.  I mean do you want the drivers to work all the extra hours past their 40 hours for free? Is that what they should do.

Its amazing how stupid people are when reading stories like this.

Employees should be allowed to work all the overtime theya re asked to work, but that ovetime pay should never ever go towards their pensions. Workers pensions should always be based on base pay only and if the states would start doing that, there would be no pension shortfalls.

In closing, so what the guy made 159,000, he certainly didnt sit home and get sent a check, he had to work all those hours. And like i said if they dont want the guy making that much money, then hire more bus drivers, pretty easy fix.

the bus driver made 59,000 in regular wages and 100,000 in overtime. I guess these clowns wanted the bus driver to turn down the overtime or work it for free. Very simple solution is for the city to hire more bus drivers, then there wouldnt be all this overtime. I honestly dont understand why the guy writing this article is trying to make the bus driver look bad, when all he did is work his regular hours plus a ton more in ovetime.  I mean really what did this guy do wrong?

Legwand, some of the guys on this site really crack me up. they are so jealous of another person making more money then them, instead of trying to better themselves with a better job, they bash the other worker.

I agree, Public Unions are worse.  At the constrcution sites I work there are laborers making more than the state engineers.  I see this as a problem.

Correction, meant to say Private Unions are worse

So you're a box whipped patriarch and you're proud of that accomplishment? It now makes sense why you work in the public sector LeafsNeedD.

Mike Harris left office with a surplus after eliminating the Rae inheritance of eleven billion in the red. We need another round of common sense leadership in Ontario.

You meant to say a small % of workers rights correct?

CD...epec fail on your part...if this was a privatized company they WOULD hire more bus drivers BEFORE he made $10,000 in overtime. The union probably tied some hands to ensure his overtime was available. ONCE AGAIN EPIC FAIL on your part.

first now am sure you are just another fuckin sad alais of the jerkoffs in the politics section, following me from forum to forum, looking for my posts.

Stick to selling insurance, because you know jackshit.

cause you know what a private company would do.  You know jackshit what a private company would do.

So really get lost, crawl back under the alias you came from

Oh and heres a news flash for you Bowlslit, let private companies take over public jobs doesnt make things cheaper and once private companies get a firm grip on the public things, price to the taxpayer goes way up, higher then when it was a public job.

Only difference is instead of the workers making a decent wage, the private company owner pays the workers less money and puts the rest in his pocket.  Great idea, lets change public jobs to private jobs, so the fuckin rich can get richer. You are a true American hero rooting for big business to make more money while the little guy makes less. I guess when you have been a ripoff insurance salesman all your life, you side with big business.

Heres another news flash for you. my cities water dept went to a private company, my water bill is now 3 times higher then it was before and on top of that the wrokers salaries are now lower.  Bravo to the private company, my cities politicians made another rich guy richer, while lining their pockets with some kick back cash

You can and all these ripoff private companies can both go and frig yourselevs

And another thing bowlslit

when you have public workers working for the city or state, the only thing the taxpayers are paying for is the labor of the employees, the city or state doesnt have to make a profit off the taxpayer, but when a private company takes over the public jobs, that company isnt going to just provide the taxpayers with services so its employees can make money, hell no, the owners are going to want to make profit on top of paying its workers. So even thou private contracts might start out cheaper to taxpayer{thats only to get the contract in the first place} they soon go way up, costing the taxpayer more then they were paying for public employees. And once they lock up those long term contracts, there isnt a single thing the taxpayer can do about it, their screwed.

So why anybody with a half a brain would want private companies to take over public sector jobs is beyond me. I guess some people are so brain washed into thinking they are going to get big savings like the the poducts they buy from walmart that are made overseas, or else they just like to pay more for the services, while seeing the rich guys make even more of our cash.

heres where you guys are completely clueless. You are not paying to fund unions, get that out of your head,

You as a taxpayer are paying public workers to perform services for you, thats what your friggin taxpayer dollars pay.  Not if an employee wants to use some of the money he EARNED working for the taxpayers to fund his union, thats his business and not anybody elses. Get it in your head, he did his job for you and what he does with his money each week, is his business. Whats next, you will want to tell him what type of car he has to buy, because you pay his salary. Some of you really need to wake up from the comas your all in.

TAXPAYERS DONT PAY FOR UNIONS, WORKERS OWN MONEY PAYS FOR UNIONS.

Some of you believe that a portion of your tax dollars is going into some giant union fund, you couldnt be farther from the truth. Its employees banding together with the money they earn from the services they provide you is where unins get the money. Now maybe you dont like democrats, that still has no bearing on you the taxpayer paying for the services you recieve. What a worker decides to do with hsi money, thats up to him.

So please people wake up.

Our schools are full of "stupid" children whose parents have failed them. The students are the ones who do not want to learn and have no respect. It is not the teachers responsibility to dicipline the students and teacher can't make their students study.