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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

Swords to ploughshares (or plowshares) is a concept in which military weapons or technologies are converted for peaceful civilian applications. Seems that piece is being housed at the un. Yevgeny Vuchetich....

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Vuchetich was born in Yekaterinoslav, Russian Empire (now Dnipro, Ukraine), the son of Viktor Vuchetich (Vucetic), of Serbian descent[citation needed], and Anna Andreevna Stewart, of Russian and of French descent.[1]

He was a prominent representative of the Socialist Realism style and was awarded with the Lenin Prize in 1970, the Stalin Prize (1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950), Order of Lenin (twice), Order of the Patriotic War (2nd degree), Hero of Socialist Labor (1967) and People's Artist of the USSR (1959).

 
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

Ukrainian forces seeking to export scrap military equipmentrussian tanks for sale...barely broke in''''  Used helicopter and mig 29 parting out call with needs....    he Ukrainian Association of Secondary Metals is studying the world experience in converting military equipment into scrap metal. This was reported by Interfax-Ukraine. "World experience in the processing of military equipment. We are already studying the processing technologies that will be presented to members and partners of our association," - said in a statement. Valentyn Makarenko, Chairman of the Board of the Interpipe Vtormet Waste Processing Plant, said that there was a shortage of scrap metal in Ukraine, but now it has been added

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Biden says Ukraine might have to give Russia land in ‘negotiated settlement’

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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

@I_Need_A_Detox  Give up territory??? Are you out of your mind? Maybe you bend over when the bully comes knocking on your door but as you know, that doesn't stop the bully from bending you over again, right?

 

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Mearsheimer really nailed this whole thing way back in 2014

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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @I_Need_A_Detox  Give up territory??? Are you out of your mind? Maybe you bend over when the bully comes knocking on your door but as you know, that doesn't stop the bully from bending you over again, right?
His emoji laughs and smiles,when you mention him being bent over again.

 
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov could not visit Serbia, since Serbia's neighbor countries, Bulgaria, North Macedonia and Montenegro had shut down their airspace to Lavrov's airplane.  

Unity and sanctions are working against Vladimir Putin and his inner circle.

https://news.yahoo.com/closed-airspace-forces-cancellation-russian-200313377.html

 
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Russia calls Lavrov flight bans ‘hostile action'
The Kremlin has said airspace closures by three eastern European countries which prevented its foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, from travelling to Serbia were a “hostile action.”

Countries surrounding Serbia - Bulgaria, North Macedonia and Montenegro - closed their airspace to an official plane that would have carried Moscow’s top diplomat to Belgrade on Monday.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters such actions could cause problems with the timetabling of high-level diplomatic meetings. But they would not prevent Moscow from meeting with friendly nations.

 
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Russia should not close the US embassy despite the crisis triggered by the war in Ukraine, the US ambassador to Moscow was quoted as saying on Monday.

“We must preserve the ability to speak to each other,” John Sullivan told Russia’s state news agency TASS in an interview.

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Obama couldn’t beat Syria and Assad in a proxy war and Biden thought he was going to beat Russia and Putin 

 

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Russia can take on NATO...

Please they are in a Quagmire in Ukraine

This special military assignment has costed him half of his advancing army.

Russia as a conventional military threat is a joke.

 

 

 

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

Russia calls Lavrov flight bans ‘hostile action'The Kremlin has said airspace closures by three eastern European countries which prevented its foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, from travelling to Serbia were a “hostile action.” Countries surrounding Serbia - Bulgaria, North Macedonia and Montenegro - closed their airspace to an official plane that would have carried Moscow’s top diplomat to Belgrade on Monday. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters such actions could cause problems with the timetabling of high-level diplomatic meetings. But they would not prevent Moscow from meeting with friendly nations.

Too bad for them...

 
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BOMBS CAN'T STOP PROMS Brave Ukrainian students hold prom at bombed-out high school as Russia ramps up blitz (*1)

(*1) https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18814657/ukrainian-students-prom-bombed-out-school/

In a striking image of hope and resilience, Valeria Kobzeva, 16, posed in a red ballgown amid the rubble of School Number 134(*2)

(*2) https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/a69a65bb-7532-4753-9a28-e2db6eb7e000.jpg?strip=all&w=960

Ukrainians will win this war, no doubt from my perspective. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

BOMBS CAN'T STOP PROMS Brave Ukrainian students hold prom at bombed-out high school as Russia ramps up blitz (*1) (*1) https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18814657/ukrainian-students-prom-bombed-out-school/ In a striking image of hope and resilience, Valeria Kobzeva, 16, posed in a red ballgown amid the rubble of School Number 134(*2) (*2) https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/a69a65bb-7532-4753-9a28-e2db6eb7e000.jpg?strip=all&w=960

Ukrainians will win this war, no doubt from my perspective.

Ultimately I believe this true.  But the devastation to their people, economy, agriculture and cities will be  almost unbelievably catastrophic.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

Ultimately I believe this true.  But the devastation to their people, economy, agriculture and cities will be  almost unbelievably catastrophic.

Please listen to Admiral James Stavridis, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, has to say regarding the war of attrition.

Putin's 'burn rate' is so bad he'll be looking to negotiate by year end*

*https://news.yahoo.com/putins-burn-rate-bad-hell-163650634.html

On top of West's strong military, economy, and humanity support, the Ukrainians' hope, will and resilience will win this war of attrition.    

 
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

Russia can take on NATO... Please they are in a Quagmire in Ukraine This special military assignment has costed him half of his advancing army. Russia as a conventional military threat is a joke.

Can we say lambs to slaughter or is it too soon.

Since the beginning of the full-scale war against Ukraine, the Russian army has lost 31,360 soldiers, 1,390 tanks and 694 artillery systems.

If half of your comrades didn't make it.

Imagine the front line say. Mechanized rifle brigade?

Yaya they didn't make it.

Really how many were killed ...

The entire regiment.....

Looks like Lee in Pennsylvania once upon a time....

 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @I_Need_A_Detox  Give up territory??? Are you out of your mind? Maybe you bend over when the bully comes knocking on your door but as you know, that doesn't stop the bully from bending you over again, right?

 

Ya general picket loss half the men Russia has.

Picket loaded and marched 15,000 to there deaths at Gettysburg..... Dow artillery 6th main regiment....

Russia Putin sent 31000 to their graves...

Oh what happened.... A bunch of wheat farmers in Ukraine kicked his candy ash.

 
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.... Looks like more Russian deaths and they haven't even set a foot in Russia.....yet.....

 
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Ukrainian army making gains in the south.

MYKOLAIV, Ukraine (Reuters) - Western-supplied artillery systems are already making a difference on the ground for Ukraine and it is "just a question of time" before its forces win back significant ground in the south, the governor of the Mykolaiv region said on Wednesday.

Governor Vitaliy Kim, whose region is partially occupied by Russia but remains just one of two that retains significant access to the Black Sea, told Reuters that Ukrainian forces had "some success" in recent weeks in a counterattack in the neighbouring Kherson region.

Asked when Western weapons would start to make a difference on the ground against Russian forces that invaded the country on Feb. 24, he said: "It is already happening ... and we will have (more) success."

 
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Russia turning to cannabilsm? 

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-russian-army-filled-meatpacking-plant-bodies-dead-russian-soldiers-2022-6

 
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

Putin sent 31000 to their graves...

What’s your source for this number? 

 
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Only a day after two Britons fighting for Ukraine were sentenced to death by a Russian proxy court, British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace makes surprising visit to Kyiv today.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ben-wallace-volodymyr-zelensky-defence-secretary-ministry-of-defence-kyiv-b2098339.html

The main objective of the two countries is enabling Ukraine to liberate itself from illegal Russian occupation.

 
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Here is a lengthy report from the Politico how Starlink, a satellite communication system owned by Elon Musk’s SpaceX, immensely helps Ukrainian forces in their war against Russians. 

https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-ukraine-starlink/   

Every time Oleksiy and his fellow artillerymen hit a Russian target, they have one person to thank: Elon Musk, the world’s richest man. 

 
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Here is a lengthy report from the Politico how Starlink, a satellite communication system owned by Elon Musk’s SpaceX, immensely helps Ukrainian forces in their war against Russians. 

https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-ukraine-starlink/   

Every time Oleksiy and his fellow artillerymen hit a Russian target, they have one person to thank: Elon Musk, the world’s richest man. 

 
 
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Here is a lengthy report from the Politico how Starlink, a satellite communication system owned by Elon Musk’s SpaceX, immensely helps Ukrainian forces in their war against Russians. 

https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-ukraine-starlink/   

Every time Oleksiy and his fellow artillerymen hit a Russian target, they have one person to thank: Elon Musk, the world’s richest man. 

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