Trump Tariffs

Just because I know you'll never come back to update your propaganda...

According to Amazon

Amazon (AMZN) is denying reports that it will display the impact of tariffs next to the price of products on its e-commerce site, which drew the ire of the Trump administration on Tuesday.

"The team that runs our ultra low cost Amazon Haul store considered the idea of listing import charges on certain products," Amazon spokesperson Tim Doyle said in a statement. "This was never approved and is not going to happen.”

Amazon can't even get on the same page with their own media company 

@BigGame90

 Do you think that highlighting the tariff cost would have Americans purchase more Made in America products?

I saw a blouse from China/TEMU for $22 but the tariff cost was an additional $37.

@Midnight1

I think trying to show any tAriFf cost would be absolutely ridiculous. Did businesses show additional inflation prices as inflation was hitting decades high during Bidens term? Inflation is basically a tax just like a tariff. Where do you draw the line?

 Do you think highlighting the inflation costs would have stopped people from purchasing items during Bidens term? If you didn't know that shirt was originally $22.00 how would you know the tariff made it $37.00? Why does a seller have to pass the tariff tax onto the consumer? Why can't the business eat the cost? Why can't the importer and exporter both agree to eat the tariff tax and take a hit as to not pass the cost onto the consumer? Why can't all three eat the cost? There is no solid answer that says any tariff NEEDs to be passed on to the consumer. Tariffs have been around in the past, why would anyone suddenly want to show the additional cost?

For what it's worth, the train cars coming into NY from Canada have slowed to a trickle.  To be fair you have to understand the push to get as much as possible over by the deadline was massive.  It's all aluminum, wood, and fuel cars now.  So yes, the story is not much is crossing but the supply stock will control that in the short time frame.  There is a ton of log trucks that head north thru NY to Canada and not all that wood you see on trains coming back is from Canada grown lumber.  all the plywood and pressure treated stuff

More countries require Ebay and other online markets to list cost of tariffs.  Paying tariffs in advance can avoid extra delivery fees.  Knowing the full price is important for buyer decision.

@thirdperson

 Did Ebay also require sellers to list inflation prices when the economy shut down and inflation picked up? 

Funny a guy who tracks the ports and imports that I follow suggested that Trump is exaggerating the tariff collection per day by a 10x multiple. If Trump is claiming 2B a day collected, the sources I have say that the number is 10% of that figure.

Does anyone care that Trump is an exaggerating liar and is causing a massive slowdown in GDP and an increase in unemployment for the common citizen?

Is this winning? I get bored with the "things take time to develop and down the road we will see results". When in the history of Trump politics has this happened?

Nothing like dividing the population even more and enraging your trade partners AND insulting those who dare criticize the King.

@wallstreetcappers

 Right you are, WSC! 

Wednesday's Commerce Department report
showing the U.S. economy contracted 0.3%
in the first quarter of 2025, the first negative
reading since 2022.

The report also showed inflation remaining firm.

   However, U.S. gross domestic product grew
an annual rate of 2.4% in the fourth quarter
of 2024, according to Commerce Department estimates...

and that's what the Biden admin handed off to the new autocrat regime.

@BigGame90

 These tariffs were unwarranted & with no economic thought.

This is a problem created by one person & not anything like the causes of inflation.

As a result, Americans are in the streets protesting every day because of what your madman has done to the country. 

He's gotta go!

@BigGame90

 William Henry Harrison had a better first 100 days & he spent 70 of them dead.

@SarasotaSlim

 Its lucky I did not see your tirade, you were out of line and I have put up with more from you than is reasonable. Had I seen that the result would have been bad for you. If you are going to go off the deep end in a reply, JUST DO NOT CLICK ENTER...erase it and stop with the attacks and personal petty crap you have pulled for years.

There wont be another one of those message I can promise you that.

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@wallstreetcappers

 Was America winning the last several years while credit delinquencies were skyrocketing? Or did nobody pay attention because media never brought it up? Pretty easy to check the FRED (https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DRCLACBS) sites to see the rates of delinquency rates.  Was the GDP increasing on the backs of debts that are currently defaulting? But it's Trumps fault for trying to bring pricing down, right? Banks just giving out credit to anyone that asks, people spend on garbage, prices continue to go up, Biden continues to claim victory, people regurgitate with the media tells them, nobody looks under the hood because it's just easier to blame Trump for trying to stop the runaway train. 

You care about Trump lying now, but said nothing when the jobs reports (the fake numbers that were blasted all over here and OP would NEVER go back to update the actual numbers) was coming in excessively high and then were constantly lowered. Every. Single. Month. A large portion of "jobs created" were also govt jobs which are paid off the backs of tax payers, collected from taxes which is what the tariffs are supposed to help. 

@Midnight1

 Lets say the economy keeps burning hot, how long before EVERYONE is priced out (houses, cars, travel etc) and credit defaults explode? (see above link for defaults if you care to see why the economy was dOiNg So GrEaT under Biden. You can also look back at what lead up to the early 2000s and 2008 if you want to see how history is going to repeat. Tariffs aside. Who pays for bail outs when people can't pay their debts and default? It's great to spend on credit and keep the economy rolling, but what happens when the bill comes due and they can't pay for their reckless spending that helps keep prices up? Who pays? The responsible tax payers pay. Why should they have to suffer because people are irresponsible with credit? Same goes for irresponsible banks. Now you have a problem because Trump is trying to create revenue for the govt by way to tariffs? You do realize that inflation is also a tax, just like a tariff, right? If banks are going to give credit to anyone, the govt is going to give "free" covid monies, prices are going to rise. Govt doesn't care because they make a % of those increased prices. 

I'll say it again, tariffs are not the reason for what might come. Everything is negotiable. 

@BigGame90

 You erroneously lump me in with these generalized liberal rants and you seem to not know me at all. Notice when I make comments it is not generalizations or summations I am usually quite specific and detailed where you tangent off to fake job reports and credit issues and then say that I am a certain way with no proof or facts.

Ive never cheered government debt, Ive never said that the jobs numbers arent off and in fact Ive said the exact opposite many times. So if you want to come for me please do so with better content and facts, you are so far off it is like listening to a Trump rant. 

Here is where your contention fails, Trump is not about lowering spending and reducing debt, where in his entire life history has this clown EVER been about financial restraint and caution? He lost every business in BK due to leverage and debt...Trump is the last person in politics who gives two bleeps about financial accountability and restraint.

Trump and your side is on a fake and awful witch hunt to erase DEI because the project 2025 doods are pulling the strings, all his actions are about the DEI lies he forwards and blaming illegals. Yesterday I was going to Home Depot for a few parts and I saw a policeman pull over a landscape truck and trailer right in front of me. I followed the truck and his police car for probably a mile before and the guy was not speeding, the truck was clean and no issues. He pulled him over because he was hispanic. There were two hispanic workers in that truck and he pulled it over because that is the political environment we are in. I saw the lights and the truck pull to the side of the parking lot, I pulled in and got out...by the time I was walking into the store the cop moved on and the truck pulled into a parking spot to get stuff like me. It is getting to be like the old disgusting Arpaio days again where profiling is celebrated and the public is following the King to be divided and blame illegals.

Trump is not going to reduce debt and save, Trump is seeking to pass a MASSIVE military budget, that has always been my beef...if your side wants to cut programs then reduce debt and be financially prudent. Your side has its projects and honey pots and there will be no reduction in spending or debt, Trump his first trip is just repeating the same nonsense which is to blame illegals, insult anyone who stands up to him and try and ramp the military. Since politicians never stop spending I would prefer the spending to be on social programs, on middle class government jobs and to help the common citizen NOT spend on the military and defense contractor freebies.

@wallstreetcappers

 You're right, you never said the jobs reports are off. You also never corrected OP when OP was constantly stating overinflated numbers and not revising. In not saying anything, you are skipping over the fact that OP is not giving the facts, like what you ask for in here. You're quick to correct people you deem are on the right, and tend to let the left slide. Do you wonder why you typically get more push back from those you deem to be on the right and not the left? Because you let the left slide and are quick to jump on the rights mistakes. There is something to say about saying nothing. 

I can't comment on what you might think is police profiling because I've never seen it. I have seen police pulling over cars that are far outside of the rules of the road. I see a lot of cars around my area that have fully tinted front windows and have yet to see one pulled over for a fix it ticket. Would you call it profiling if a certain race had their front windows tinted and were constantly pulled over? I mean, you can't even see who's driving to judge. Would it also be profiling if that same car was pulled over and had guns drawn because the windows were tinted? Or is it only profiling if the driver is anything but white? 

Since this forum loves polls, I would be curious to see CEOs thoughts on DEI in the workforce. I'll just wait for third to clip my first sentence and find a way to rag on Trump. 

As for your preference on govt spending on social programs, how's the homeless spending in CA going? Billions and billions unaccounted for. But yeah, lets give the govt more of our taxes so they can lose more. While we're at it, let's just keep raising taxes so the govt can have even more unaccounted missing funds to the tunes of billions. Would you be willing to compromise and not have pensions for govt workers? Afterall, they are living off tax payers backs, do they really need a pension? Isn't working 4 days a week basically a pension by getting 20% time off while received full pay?

@BigGame90

 You replied to my comments, I am not the police of content, I police the rules and that is all. I comment on things as any individual can so what do you think I will do go around pointing out generalities to people who are not debating me? If you want to debate and you address me then yeah I will reply back with fact and with detail. If other members exaggerate or shade content then why are you wanting to engage with that? There is plenty on BOTH SIDES that I intentionally do not interact with because there are many members here who are about copy/paste garbage and state information that is not really about discussion. There is nothing wrong with that unless the sole purpose is to be partisan and dividing, that content will get moved quicker than just someone stating a jobs number or a GDP number or some actual factual information which is not the opinion of an extremist but that is in the common news rotation.

You get stuck over and over on the extremes, most every reply you make to me specifically is on the fringes and is not really about the subject or topic. It is no wonder you voted for Trump, you actually think DEI is the fringe outlier exaggerated group that Trump despises and torments and what got YOU to vote for him. That is not DEI, that is an outlier similar to saying that the proud boys are conservative suit wearing Christians. DEI is diversity, equity and inclusion, not the magic dragon you have created to despise a very very small segment of the population. If CEOs do not like DEI then they also are not properly defining it and understanding it. The majority of DEI in its purpose and definition is NOT gender transitioning men, it is not LGBT only, DEI is almost like saying anything not white male is in that group because since the history of this country, white men have controlled the power, wealth and resources and it could take 200 years to unwind the narrative if we were SERIOUS about making things equal, but we are not so it cannot happen.

The homeless situation is actually a good point...the homeless on multiple accounts are DEI as there are MANY with mental health issues, substance abuse issues, broken homes and those who are lacking the ability to function in public. Not sure what you are trying to suggest but building some houses in LA is only 10% of the solution, the real problem is not that they have a house to live in its how to reach them on a mental and psychological level and understand their needs and rehabilitate them and get them off substances of all kinds and change behavior to not have the addicting mindset. I do not think it is actually possible because some people do not want to function in society and some people are not motivated even when given the opportunity. If we wanted to help make a dent in the homeless problem we would need a massive infrastructure including mental health, physicians, psychologists, aid to ensure people are following rules and structure, job training resources and counselling. I dont think too many really understand the enormous cost and investment to help those who are struggling the most.

Biden administration didn't manipulate job creation data.  Bureau of labor statistics publish estimates based on surveys of employers.  Common for revisions as more data is gathered with final report at the start of each year.  Revisions didn't change fact of strong economic recovery.  Bottom line is over 17 million jobs since January 2021 which is more than 6.38 million jobs in Trump best 3 years.  If 2020 is included, data looks worse for Trump.  The worst year (2024) of job creation under Biden is comparable to the best year (2018) of Trump.

11% of job gains were in government under Biden.  For both Biden and Trump, almost 15% of all jobs were in government.

  MAGA-moron in the Oval orders a 100% tariff on foreign movies

It's funny seeing liberals crying about more taxes. I thought they loved taxes? Or is that only when they don't have to pay them? 

Congress budget office estimates that extending Trump tax cuts would reduce US GDP and increase borrowing cost in the long term. 

Thanks for the info. Something a human being thinks about and wants to discuss all the time.  Have any other thoughts on your post since you felt the need to post it? Have any other discussions or facts about the estimates that may or may not be wrong? 

So,thirdperson are you saying  ,,,,,that keeping the 2017 tax cuts in place and holding other budgetary policies steady would cause debt levels to reach 214% of GDP in 2054 ?

I would like to hear your thoughts .............