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    Trump lies so much.

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    thirdperson
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    Posted: May. 29, 2024 - 7:05 PM ET #276

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump claimed that the US has “fake elections.” There is no basis for this claim, either. Trump lost the 2020 election to Biden fair and square.

    Election deniers promote the myth that US elections are fraudulent and cannot be trusted.  Disinformation campaign aims to push for more restrictive voting laws and lay the groundwork for efforts to illegally overturn election results if Trump lose.   For examples, frivolous lawsuits, sham audits, fake elector scheme and coup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump claimed that the US has “fake elections.” There is no basis for this claim, either. Trump lost the 2020 election to Biden fair and square.

    Election deniers promote the myth that US elections are fraudulent and cannot be trusted.  Disinformation campaign aims to push for more restrictive voting laws and lay the groundwork for efforts to illegally overturn election results if Trump lose.   For examples, frivolous lawsuits, sham audits, fake elector scheme and coup.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2024 - 9:08 PM ET #277

    People lie...someone you know who is very close to you is lying to you right now....

     

    You thought you were having steak for dinner but then that meatloaf is put in front of you....

     

    Our whole lives consist of lies....seeking the truth can be difficult...that's more of the game than anything...who is the biggest bullshiter and who can you put up with that lies the least....

     

    Anyone ever lost a friend or family member because of a lie or lies?>?>?>an_popcorn

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    People lie...someone you know who is very close to you is lying to you right now....

     

    You thought you were having steak for dinner but then that meatloaf is put in front of you....

     

    Our whole lives consist of lies....seeking the truth can be difficult...that's more of the game than anything...who is the biggest bullshiter and who can you put up with that lies the least....

     

    Anyone ever lost a friend or family member because of a lie or lies?>?>?>an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2024 - 9:42 PM ET #278

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Trump claimed that the US has “fake elections.” There is no basis for this claim, either. Trump lost the 2020 election to Biden fair and square.

    Election deniers promote the myth that US elections are fraudulent and cannot be trusted.  Disinformation campaign aims to push for more restrictive voting laws and lay the groundwork for efforts to illegally overturn election results if Trump lose.   For examples, frivolous lawsuits, sham audits, fake elector scheme and coup.

    @thirdperson

     And THAT my friend will likely be the result, intended fascism or not... Works down-ballot too

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Trump claimed that the US has “fake elections.” There is no basis for this claim, either. Trump lost the 2020 election to Biden fair and square.

    Election deniers promote the myth that US elections are fraudulent and cannot be trusted.  Disinformation campaign aims to push for more restrictive voting laws and lay the groundwork for efforts to illegally overturn election results if Trump lose.   For examples, frivolous lawsuits, sham audits, fake elector scheme and coup.

    @thirdperson

     And THAT my friend will likely be the result, intended fascism or not... Works down-ballot too

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2024 - 4:47 PM ET #279

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Trump claimed that the US has “fake elections.” There is no basis for this claim, either. Trump lost the 2020 election to Biden fair and square. Election deniers promote the myth that US elections are fraudulent and cannot be trusted.  Disinformation campaign aims to push for more restrictive voting laws and lay the groundwork for efforts to illegally overturn election results if Trump lose.   For examples, frivolous lawsuits, sham audits, fake elector scheme and coup. @thirdperson  And THAT my friend will likely be the result, intended fascism or not... Works down-ballot too
      fascism at work

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Trump claimed that the US has “fake elections.” There is no basis for this claim, either. Trump lost the 2020 election to Biden fair and square. Election deniers promote the myth that US elections are fraudulent and cannot be trusted.  Disinformation campaign aims to push for more restrictive voting laws and lay the groundwork for efforts to illegally overturn election results if Trump lose.   For examples, frivolous lawsuits, sham audits, fake elector scheme and coup. @thirdperson  And THAT my friend will likely be the result, intended fascism or not... Works down-ballot too
      fascism at work

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2024 - 4:56 PM ET #280

    You do not know the definition of Fascism KellyM! You throw the word out as if it is a weapon!

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    You do not know the definition of Fascism KellyM! You throw the word out as if it is a weapon!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2024 - 5:01 PM ET #281

    Yea, like he's a regular Mussolini

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    Yea, like he's a regular Mussolini

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2024 - 5:02 PM ET #282

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Trump claimed that the US has “fake elections.” There is no basis for this claim, either. Trump lost the 2020 election to Biden fair and square. Election deniers promote the myth that US elections are fraudulent and cannot be trusted.  Disinformation campaign aims to push for more restrictive voting laws and lay the groundwork for efforts to illegally overturn election results if Trump lose.  

     

    fascism at work

    Unfortunately true...

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Trump claimed that the US has “fake elections.” There is no basis for this claim, either. Trump lost the 2020 election to Biden fair and square. Election deniers promote the myth that US elections are fraudulent and cannot be trusted.  Disinformation campaign aims to push for more restrictive voting laws and lay the groundwork for efforts to illegally overturn election results if Trump lose.  

     

    fascism at work

    Unfortunately true...

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2024 - 10:26 AM ET #283

    HEADLINES today . . .

     

    CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims

    almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’


    cool  Even the trump-worshipping MAGAS know
    that can't be true or anywhere remotely close to true....
    but truth doesn't really matter to them anymore as long
    as it gets their CONVICTED CRIMINAL/fascist leader back in the WH

     

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    HEADLINES today . . .

     

    CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims

    almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’


    cool  Even the trump-worshipping MAGAS know
    that can't be true or anywhere remotely close to true....
    but truth doesn't really matter to them anymore as long
    as it gets their CONVICTED CRIMINAL/fascist leader back in the WH

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2024 - 1:22 PM ET #284

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’ 

    Trump's claim has been debunked by CNN, politifact and Washington post.  Increase in employment among immigrants is not a Biden conspiracy but rather a result of aging population.  For decades, labor participation rate has decreased for native born adults and increased for foreign born adults.  Many native born adults are older and choosing to retire from the work force.  This trend has nothing to do with Biden or recent immigration.  Besides, foreign born adults aren't all illegal immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’ 

    Trump's claim has been debunked by CNN, politifact and Washington post.  Increase in employment among immigrants is not a Biden conspiracy but rather a result of aging population.  For decades, labor participation rate has decreased for native born adults and increased for foreign born adults.  Many native born adults are older and choosing to retire from the work force.  This trend has nothing to do with Biden or recent immigration.  Besides, foreign born adults aren't all illegal immigrants.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2024 - 1:46 PM ET #285

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    You do not know the definition of Fascism KellyM! You throw the word out as if it is a weapon!

    It is amazing all these rocket scientists on here using words like this and sadly all that does is diminish the people who actually were oppressed by a true fascist regime. People who lost their life fighting against fascism. Its frankly pathetic and disgusting the low-level IQ in these threads could make those people who lived through this worth less. The real struggles worth less. Learn what the word means. Understand its historical context. Then use it appropriately for fuck's sake. Trump is a lot of things and frankly a lot of things most people should oppose but right-wing Fascist thankfully he is not.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    You do not know the definition of Fascism KellyM! You throw the word out as if it is a weapon!

    It is amazing all these rocket scientists on here using words like this and sadly all that does is diminish the people who actually were oppressed by a true fascist regime. People who lost their life fighting against fascism. Its frankly pathetic and disgusting the low-level IQ in these threads could make those people who lived through this worth less. The real struggles worth less. Learn what the word means. Understand its historical context. Then use it appropriately for fuck's sake. Trump is a lot of things and frankly a lot of things most people should oppose but right-wing Fascist thankfully he is not.  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2024 - 1:52 PM ET #286

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’  Trump's claim has been debunked by CNN, politifact and Washington post.  Increase in employment among immigrants is not a Biden conspiracy but rather a result of aging population.  For decades, labor participation rate has decreased for native born adults and increased for foreign born adults.  Many native born adults are older and choosing to retire from the work force.  This trend has nothing to do with Biden or recent immigration.  Besides, foreign born adults aren't all illegal immigrants.

    an_light  peace_5   an_clap

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’  Trump's claim has been debunked by CNN, politifact and Washington post.  Increase in employment among immigrants is not a Biden conspiracy but rather a result of aging population.  For decades, labor participation rate has decreased for native born adults and increased for foreign born adults.  Many native born adults are older and choosing to retire from the work force.  This trend has nothing to do with Biden or recent immigration.  Besides, foreign born adults aren't all illegal immigrants.

    an_light  peace_5   an_clap

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2024 - 3:03 PM ET #287

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    HEADLINES today . . .

     

    CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’


    cool  Even the trump-worshipping MAGAS know
    that can't be true or anywhere remotely close to true....
    but truth doesn't really matter to them anymore as long
    as it gets their CONVICTED CRIMINAL/fascist leader back in the WH

    Why would the convicted criminal make up an obvious lie like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    HEADLINES today . . .

     

    CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’


    cool  Even the trump-worshipping MAGAS know
    that can't be true or anywhere remotely close to true....
    but truth doesn't really matter to them anymore as long
    as it gets their CONVICTED CRIMINAL/fascist leader back in the WH

    Why would the convicted criminal make up an obvious lie like that?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2024 - 3:19 PM ET #288

    Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: You do not know the definition of Fascism KellyM! You throw the word out as if it is a weapon! It is amazing all these rocket scientists on here using words like this and sadly all that does is diminish the people who actually were oppressed by a true fascist regime. People who lost their life fighting against fascism. Its frankly pathetic and disgusting the low-level IQ in these threads could make those people who lived through this worth less. The real struggles worth less. Learn what the word means. Understand its historical context. Then use it appropriately for fuck's sake. Trump is a lot of things and frankly a lot of things most people should oppose but right-wing Fascist thankfully he is not.

    What fantasy world are you living.  The guy even has hitler books by his bed, which am sure the dumbass had to have somebody read them to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: You do not know the definition of Fascism KellyM! You throw the word out as if it is a weapon! It is amazing all these rocket scientists on here using words like this and sadly all that does is diminish the people who actually were oppressed by a true fascist regime. People who lost their life fighting against fascism. Its frankly pathetic and disgusting the low-level IQ in these threads could make those people who lived through this worth less. The real struggles worth less. Learn what the word means. Understand its historical context. Then use it appropriately for fuck's sake. Trump is a lot of things and frankly a lot of things most people should oppose but right-wing Fascist thankfully he is not.

    What fantasy world are you living.  The guy even has hitler books by his bed, which am sure the dumbass had to have somebody read them to him.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2024 - 7:11 PM ET #289

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: You do not know the definition of Fascism KellyM! You throw the word out as if it is a weapon! It is amazing all these rocket scientists on here using words like this and sadly all that does is diminish the people who actually were oppressed by a true fascist regime. People who lost their life fighting against fascism. Its frankly pathetic and disgusting the low-level IQ in these threads could make those people who lived through this worth less. The real struggles worth less. Learn what the word means. Understand its historical context. Then use it appropriately for fuck's sake. Trump is a lot of things and frankly a lot of things most people should oppose but right-wing Fascist thankfully he is not.

    What fantasy world are you living.  The guy even has hitler books by his bed, which am sure the dumbass had to have somebody read them to him.

    Yes, and the CONVICTED FELON of the GOP speaks about his "reich,"   setting up internment camps to contain "vermin" and other undesirables,   weaponizing the DOJ to "go after" any perceived foes real or imagined,  violence in the streets if America does not vote for him,  he stated he WOULD become a dictator,  only wanting WHITE people to emigrate into America, etc, etc.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: You do not know the definition of Fascism KellyM! You throw the word out as if it is a weapon! It is amazing all these rocket scientists on here using words like this and sadly all that does is diminish the people who actually were oppressed by a true fascist regime. People who lost their life fighting against fascism. Its frankly pathetic and disgusting the low-level IQ in these threads could make those people who lived through this worth less. The real struggles worth less. Learn what the word means. Understand its historical context. Then use it appropriately for fuck's sake. Trump is a lot of things and frankly a lot of things most people should oppose but right-wing Fascist thankfully he is not.

    What fantasy world are you living.  The guy even has hitler books by his bed, which am sure the dumbass had to have somebody read them to him.

    Yes, and the CONVICTED FELON of the GOP speaks about his "reich,"   setting up internment camps to contain "vermin" and other undesirables,   weaponizing the DOJ to "go after" any perceived foes real or imagined,  violence in the streets if America does not vote for him,  he stated he WOULD become a dictator,  only wanting WHITE people to emigrate into America, etc, etc.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’    Why would the convicted criminal make up an obvious lie like that?

    As a demagogue, Trump appeals to the fears and prejudices of voters to gain political power.  Many republicans are opposed to all immigration - legal and illegal.  His anti-immigration campaign is based on 4 lies.  Migrants steal jobs from Americans.  Open border for illegal migrants.  Migrants are criminals.  Migrants pose a terrorist threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’    Why would the convicted criminal make up an obvious lie like that?

    As a demagogue, Trump appeals to the fears and prejudices of voters to gain political power.  Many republicans are opposed to all immigration - legal and illegal.  His anti-immigration campaign is based on 4 lies.  Migrants steal jobs from Americans.  Open border for illegal migrants.  Migrants are criminals.  Migrants pose a terrorist threat.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’    Why would the convicted criminal make up an obvious lie like that? As a demagogue, Trump appeals to the fears and prejudices of voters to gain political power.  Many republicans are opposed to all immigration - legal and illegal. 

    Yet analysis reveals that to progress we need more immigration!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: CONVICTED FELON leader of GOP  falsely claims almost all new jobs under Biden have gone to ‘illegal aliens’    Why would the convicted criminal make up an obvious lie like that? As a demagogue, Trump appeals to the fears and prejudices of voters to gain political power.  Many republicans are opposed to all immigration - legal and illegal. 

    Yet analysis reveals that to progress we need more immigration!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Yet analysis reveals that to progress we need more immigration!

    Immigration is projected to boost US economy over next decade according to Congress budget office.  GDP $9 trillion higher, deficit $990 billion lower and tax revenue $1.2 trillion higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Yet analysis reveals that to progress we need more immigration!

    Immigration is projected to boost US economy over next decade according to Congress budget office.  GDP $9 trillion higher, deficit $990 billion lower and tax revenue $1.2 trillion higher.

     
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    One thing people neglect to talk about enough is how illegal immigrants come here from countries like Mexico, El Salvador and Honduras and Guatemala, etc...and bring their gang ethics here...Both MS 13 and 18th street gangs were constructed from these immigrants who came here from those countries and brought their tactics and ideals to the US...these gangs involve themselves in nothing but illegal activity  and both have now grown worldwide...they both exploit regular people to do their dirty work with threats of killing their families or them...

    I don;t think people talk about this enough and I ma not so sure that the trade off of allowing people into our country is a positive one given that these gangs are running rampant and are growing...I mean worldwide gangs like this cannot be good...to think that both of these gangs are in Europe as well...It is being said that the US' immigration regulations may have contributed to these gangs starting their international organizations...with ties to the Mexican Mafia and drug cartels both inside prison and outside of it, people should really take a hard fast look at what allowing illegal immigration can really do not just to the US, but worldwide...these gangs have tens of thousands of members, maybe more, and they exploit youth who are easily manipulated and controlled...it's a scary proposition but one that individuals should really consider and why the illegal immigration situation should really not be taken lightly... 

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    One thing people neglect to talk about enough is how illegal immigrants come here from countries like Mexico, El Salvador and Honduras and Guatemala, etc...and bring their gang ethics here...Both MS 13 and 18th street gangs were constructed from these immigrants who came here from those countries and brought their tactics and ideals to the US...these gangs involve themselves in nothing but illegal activity  and both have now grown worldwide...they both exploit regular people to do their dirty work with threats of killing their families or them...

    I don;t think people talk about this enough and I ma not so sure that the trade off of allowing people into our country is a positive one given that these gangs are running rampant and are growing...I mean worldwide gangs like this cannot be good...to think that both of these gangs are in Europe as well...It is being said that the US' immigration regulations may have contributed to these gangs starting their international organizations...with ties to the Mexican Mafia and drug cartels both inside prison and outside of it, people should really take a hard fast look at what allowing illegal immigration can really do not just to the US, but worldwide...these gangs have tens of thousands of members, maybe more, and they exploit youth who are easily manipulated and controlled...it's a scary proposition but one that individuals should really consider and why the illegal immigration situation should really not be taken lightly... 

     
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     I am not sure that will dissuade the Left that much to talk about that.  
    They want to allow illegals, period; they do not want strict punishment for crimes, period.  
    So, mixing the two subjects together will still not change their minds.  

    Until there is a quorum with enough will power to solve either of those problems, it will just get worse.  

    If the other major problems with the overwhelming amount of non-gang illegals is not enough to matter — then a mixture of gang members being included in the mix will not matter either. 
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     I am not sure that will dissuade the Left that much to talk about that.  
    They want to allow illegals, period; they do not want strict punishment for crimes, period.  
    So, mixing the two subjects together will still not change their minds.  

    Until there is a quorum with enough will power to solve either of those problems, it will just get worse.  

    If the other major problems with the overwhelming amount of non-gang illegals is not enough to matter — then a mixture of gang members being included in the mix will not matter either. 
    peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @ABooksNightmare  I am not sure that will dissuade the Left that much to talk about that.  They want to allow illegals, period; they do not want strict punishment for crimes, period.  So, mixing the two subjects together will still not change their minds.   Until there is a quorum with enough will power to solve either of those problems, it will just get worse.   If the other major problems with the overwhelming amount of non-gang illegals is not enough to matter — then a mixture of gang members being included in the mix will not matter either.
    I believe this is what others may have said decades ago when gangs and their activities were not an issue, but look at them now....

     

    Ignoring this is a problem. This gang activity is multiplying and is becoming international. That means it is a business model that is being sold or forced on individuals/families and that shit carries weight....people can think it doesn't or that it is a minority but in actually if you look at gangs throughout the decades you can see a major shift in them...what it once was and what it is now is no comparison, but truly pay attention to the numbers and what they control...gangs control prisons, which ok, doesn't seem like a big deal, but that means they control the outside activity as well...so you have lifers in prison making decisions of people on the outside who don't care if they get caught performing these heinous crimes...they are building and building and are becoming more clever at disguising themselves and their tactics...even the Hells Angels at one point, and maybe still do, control ports in Canada...these gangs control or have people on the inside who let drugs, weapons and women or individuals pass through with no problem...most people are naive to the activity and think it doesn't affect them or is not as prevalent as people make it out to be, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist...

    The criminal empire is growing and these illegal immigrants are vigilant....it's not about territory and protecting your block or neighborhood or just drugs anymore as it once was....it is much much bigger than that now...sure, we see it with the fentanyl and that is no joke...these characters can get there hands on enough of this to wipe out a city if they wanted to just to prove a point...sex trafficking with kids even...they literally breed these kids to have sex and make money...it's sickening...I know that a few bad apples always spoil a bunch, but letting in the wrong people can seriously cause major damage...sure, letting in a legal one can as well but that is not the MO of these people....the main focus is on illegal individuals because they have nothing to lose and are the easiest to exploit...if you are not deterring this then you are creating a much larger problem...

    Just think about gang activity in the 80's and 90's and look at it now....if they are international then they are growing and if they grow so does their revenue and if their revenue grows then so does their ability to sell their model and for others to think that if they can do it co can I...expansion of this is the scary part and it is estimated that there are at least 1 million gang members nationwide and the 2 that I mentioned are ruthless and cutthroat and they are expanding internationally with the help of US immigration regulations....

      

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    @ABooksNightmare  I am not sure that will dissuade the Left that much to talk about that.  They want to allow illegals, period; they do not want strict punishment for crimes, period.  So, mixing the two subjects together will still not change their minds.   Until there is a quorum with enough will power to solve either of those problems, it will just get worse.   If the other major problems with the overwhelming amount of non-gang illegals is not enough to matter — then a mixture of gang members being included in the mix will not matter either.
    I believe this is what others may have said decades ago when gangs and their activities were not an issue, but look at them now....

     

    Ignoring this is a problem. This gang activity is multiplying and is becoming international. That means it is a business model that is being sold or forced on individuals/families and that shit carries weight....people can think it doesn't or that it is a minority but in actually if you look at gangs throughout the decades you can see a major shift in them...what it once was and what it is now is no comparison, but truly pay attention to the numbers and what they control...gangs control prisons, which ok, doesn't seem like a big deal, but that means they control the outside activity as well...so you have lifers in prison making decisions of people on the outside who don't care if they get caught performing these heinous crimes...they are building and building and are becoming more clever at disguising themselves and their tactics...even the Hells Angels at one point, and maybe still do, control ports in Canada...these gangs control or have people on the inside who let drugs, weapons and women or individuals pass through with no problem...most people are naive to the activity and think it doesn't affect them or is not as prevalent as people make it out to be, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist...

    The criminal empire is growing and these illegal immigrants are vigilant....it's not about territory and protecting your block or neighborhood or just drugs anymore as it once was....it is much much bigger than that now...sure, we see it with the fentanyl and that is no joke...these characters can get there hands on enough of this to wipe out a city if they wanted to just to prove a point...sex trafficking with kids even...they literally breed these kids to have sex and make money...it's sickening...I know that a few bad apples always spoil a bunch, but letting in the wrong people can seriously cause major damage...sure, letting in a legal one can as well but that is not the MO of these people....the main focus is on illegal individuals because they have nothing to lose and are the easiest to exploit...if you are not deterring this then you are creating a much larger problem...

    Just think about gang activity in the 80's and 90's and look at it now....if they are international then they are growing and if they grow so does their revenue and if their revenue grows then so does their ability to sell their model and for others to think that if they can do it co can I...expansion of this is the scary part and it is estimated that there are at least 1 million gang members nationwide and the 2 that I mentioned are ruthless and cutthroat and they are expanding internationally with the help of US immigration regulations....

      

     
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    El Salvador seems to be the hot spot, as some of these gangs started with individuals that were part of their civil war...they came here with those guerilla tactics and implemented that here in the US...even if they were deported, jailed or killed while building here there were more following right behind them...they took there beliefs, teachings, ethics, etc. and brought hem here to the States and started to build their own regime....most think they are stupid or dumb for whatever reason but that is not the case...they are well organized now and do have a business model...they are one up on the police most of the time...they pay off individuals or threaten people and their families with violence and run and operate multiple businesses under their platform...people can continue to thumb their noses at these groups but they should not be taken lightly and it starts with immigration...we should be learning from our mistakes not continuing to make the same...as I stated, fentanyl is one scary SOB and that shit can be weaponized rather easily and we are seeing it take shape more so and it is in the hands of the wrong people...

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    El Salvador seems to be the hot spot, as some of these gangs started with individuals that were part of their civil war...they came here with those guerilla tactics and implemented that here in the US...even if they were deported, jailed or killed while building here there were more following right behind them...they took there beliefs, teachings, ethics, etc. and brought hem here to the States and started to build their own regime....most think they are stupid or dumb for whatever reason but that is not the case...they are well organized now and do have a business model...they are one up on the police most of the time...they pay off individuals or threaten people and their families with violence and run and operate multiple businesses under their platform...people can continue to thumb their noses at these groups but they should not be taken lightly and it starts with immigration...we should be learning from our mistakes not continuing to make the same...as I stated, fentanyl is one scary SOB and that shit can be weaponized rather easily and we are seeing it take shape more so and it is in the hands of the wrong people...

     
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     Absolutely all true. 
    But the folks do not care enough…yet.  

    I wrote about how even the lower-level crime from illegals is preplanned and organized.  The ideal example are the Chilean visa users that come over to areas just to rob rich houses — especially in SoCal.  
    This is not new.  They have known about this for a while. 
    Yet will not fix this program—which is legal.  
    So, no need to think they want to fix an illegal one. 
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     Absolutely all true. 
    But the folks do not care enough…yet.  

    I wrote about how even the lower-level crime from illegals is preplanned and organized.  The ideal example are the Chilean visa users that come over to areas just to rob rich houses — especially in SoCal.  
    This is not new.  They have known about this for a while. 
    Yet will not fix this program—which is legal.  
    So, no need to think they want to fix an illegal one. 
    peace_5

     
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    A book. Being a convicted felon. Really that is all that is required these days ehhh. Wow. Just wow. I literally can't. Remarkable the education about history in this country. Remarkable.

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    A book. Being a convicted felon. Really that is all that is required these days ehhh. Wow. Just wow. I literally can't. Remarkable the education about history in this country. Remarkable.

     
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    Trump now declares love for Milwaukee
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    Trump now declares love for Milwaukee
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    Donald Trump made a brazen bid for support in the vital swing state of Wisconsin on Tuesday by declaring his affection for its biggest population centre, Milwaukee, just days after denigrating it as “a horrible city”.

     

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    Donald Trump made a brazen bid for support in the vital swing state of Wisconsin on Tuesday by declaring his affection for its biggest population centre, Milwaukee, just days after denigrating it as “a horrible city”.

     

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