Center for American progress reveals that average tax refund has fallen short of Trump promise. Actual $346 average increase instead of promised $1000 for 2026. Average is heavily driven by larger refunds for highest income earners and is not representative of the median taxpayer. But cost increases for healthcare insurance and other things outweigh increase in tax refund.
That's the bottom line................ always.
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Center for American progress reveals that average tax refund has fallen short of Trump promise. Actual $346 average increase instead of promised $1000 for 2026. Average is heavily driven by larger refunds for highest income earners and is not representative of the median taxpayer. But cost increases for healthcare insurance and other things outweigh increase in tax refund.
Trump has spent years sowing doubts about electoral outcomes, falsely claiming his 2020 loss to Democrat Joe Biden was rigged. He has also claimed without evidence that mail-in voting is rife with fraud, voting machines are vulnerable to manipulation and non-citizen voting is widespread.
Some Democrats, including U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, have urged networks not to air the speech, arguing Trump is likely to repeat debunked ?claims.
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July 16 propaganda speech
Trump has spent years sowing doubts about electoral outcomes, falsely claiming his 2020 loss to Democrat Joe Biden was rigged. He has also claimed without evidence that mail-in voting is rife with fraud, voting machines are vulnerable to manipulation and non-citizen voting is widespread.
Some Democrats, including U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, have urged networks not to air the speech, arguing Trump is likely to repeat debunked ?claims.
To undermine trust in elections, Trump promotes debunked lies that the system is rigged despite no proof. As republicans are expected to lose in 2026 elections, he claims vulnerabilities such as foreign interference, hacking of voting machines, mail voting fraud and non-citizen or dead people voting. But historically, none of them has any significant impact on election results. Instead the real threat to democracy in 2020 election was Trump and his supporters. For examples, constant lying to mislead voters and January 6 attack on capitol.
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To undermine trust in elections, Trump promotes debunked lies that the system is rigged despite no proof. As republicans are expected to lose in 2026 elections, he claims vulnerabilities such as foreign interference, hacking of voting machines, mail voting fraud and non-citizen or dead people voting. But historically, none of them has any significant impact on election results. Instead the real threat to democracy in 2020 election was Trump and his supporters. For examples, constant lying to mislead voters and January 6 attack on capitol.
Repeat a fictional story enough and in time it becomes the truth! This powerful concept is known in psychology as the "illusory truth effect"
Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." While widely attributed to Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels! And it worked with a whole generation of Germans ! First with his party and then the military and citizens which led to a World War and the death of 7+ million humans who were cast as inferior or combatants ! This concept is being employed by Trump has created the most spectacular consequences of Trump’s return to power and the mess he has made and collapse of global respect for America
Trump declare America is respected !
Unfortunately he and his administration typical conflation of “respect” with “fear you’ll use deadly brute force to hurt me”, it is also a projection phenomenon that also captures the hearts of his followers: that if we pissed off whole world we “ We must be doing something right “. Because every negative perception about us is just envy of our greatness by inferiors who don’t know their place.
So here we are now the rest of the world is right to not trust the USA anymore, because electing trump is now not a one-time occurrence that can be chalked up to ‘oops, we sure learned our lesson there’. Fool us once, shame on trump. Fool us twice, etc…Hopefully we as a nation can right the ship and learn from this stained era of are history before we unseat the 1930 Germans and disastrous Third Reich Nazis who used this same method of propaganda to legitimize their rule! Midterms will have consequences affecting the world not just the nation!
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@thirdperson
Repeat a fictional story enough and in time it becomes the truth! This powerful concept is known in psychology as the "illusory truth effect"
Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." While widely attributed to Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels! And it worked with a whole generation of Germans ! First with his party and then the military and citizens which led to a World War and the death of 7+ million humans who were cast as inferior or combatants ! This concept is being employed by Trump has created the most spectacular consequences of Trump’s return to power and the mess he has made and collapse of global respect for America
Trump declare America is respected !
Unfortunately he and his administration typical conflation of “respect” with “fear you’ll use deadly brute force to hurt me”, it is also a projection phenomenon that also captures the hearts of his followers: that if we pissed off whole world we “ We must be doing something right “. Because every negative perception about us is just envy of our greatness by inferiors who don’t know their place.
So here we are now the rest of the world is right to not trust the USA anymore, because electing trump is now not a one-time occurrence that can be chalked up to ‘oops, we sure learned our lesson there’. Fool us once, shame on trump. Fool us twice, etc…Hopefully we as a nation can right the ship and learn from this stained era of are history before we unseat the 1930 Germans and disastrous Third Reich Nazis who used this same method of propaganda to legitimize their rule! Midterms will have consequences affecting the world not just the nation!
Ug this is giving me a headache! What a mess & Trump is an idiot!
Yes there was massive Cheating in the 2020 Federal Elections & Yes Peeps are going to Jail, so Libs you will eat your puke!
But Trump is a retard & has been Stealing Billions! Trump’s WH is the most corrupt we’ve ever seen. So Neocon Repubs & Liberals will cry foul causing Protest! But that will not stop the Arrest because the CIA, Homeland Security, FBI, Military, & DOJ are caught & there’s enough forensic indisputable evidence Heads will Roll. Our Government will sacrifice some of their own so the rest can continue Election rigging. Blaming China as the Primary is a very big risk, yes it makes it easier to prosecute & surely will secure trials are high profile but the Fact is China was NOT the only Player. Despite all of what China did seems like a lot it pales in comparison to others.
China is very Powerfull & will not ignore these accusations! Fact USA fixes more foreign elections by far than any Nation on Earth! Blowback is coming.
Covid-19 Pandemic is directly tied to the 2020 Election rigging = Very Bad for USA, NATO, & Democrats! As for China’s role in Covid-19 as long as folks believe there was a lab leak nobody will be able to prosecute China because there was No LAB LEAK. Covid-19 is a Bioweapon that is proven by forensic Evidence! Also there were Multiple Covid-19 Bioweapons released that is also proven with Forensic Evidence! We have the Technology to look at the Covid-19 Virus which will show us what we want to know.
The Evidence Proves Something Far More Sinister is going on! Both USA & China are directly implicated for creating & ACCIDENTALLY releasing the BIOWEAPONs at least on 2 Separate occasions! Covid-19 was NOT Engineered to spread beyond a Nations border, it was designed to Mutate & burn out so it doesn’t go to far beyond target! Again MANY Countries & Universities have the Technology to figure this out! Releasing the Bioweapon & Manually Spreading the Bioweapon so it causes a Pandemic ARE 2 Separate Crimes.
Again Covid-19 is part of the 2020 Election rigging crime. Based off Trump’s speech it sure looks like there will be Selective Prosecutions = no blind Justice! Elements of our CIA also hacked the 2020 elections but they changed the Votes, China didn’t do that! We have former CIA/Military foreign election riggers who know & have identified the CIA & NATO Operatives who hacked the 2020 elections!
Ignoring CIA Hacking & Amplifying China’s small role is a big big Mistake. When you see China’s crime in the 2020 election you will see China alone couldn’t have swung the election. It’s like blaming the corrupt car thief who stole a car for Bank Robbers, blaming a car thief for Bank Robbery & Murdering the Security at the bank when the evidence proves the car thief was in a different country when the robbery & murder took place.
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Ug this is giving me a headache! What a mess & Trump is an idiot!
Yes there was massive Cheating in the 2020 Federal Elections & Yes Peeps are going to Jail, so Libs you will eat your puke!
But Trump is a retard & has been Stealing Billions! Trump’s WH is the most corrupt we’ve ever seen. So Neocon Repubs & Liberals will cry foul causing Protest! But that will not stop the Arrest because the CIA, Homeland Security, FBI, Military, & DOJ are caught & there’s enough forensic indisputable evidence Heads will Roll. Our Government will sacrifice some of their own so the rest can continue Election rigging. Blaming China as the Primary is a very big risk, yes it makes it easier to prosecute & surely will secure trials are high profile but the Fact is China was NOT the only Player. Despite all of what China did seems like a lot it pales in comparison to others.
China is very Powerfull & will not ignore these accusations! Fact USA fixes more foreign elections by far than any Nation on Earth! Blowback is coming.
Covid-19 Pandemic is directly tied to the 2020 Election rigging = Very Bad for USA, NATO, & Democrats! As for China’s role in Covid-19 as long as folks believe there was a lab leak nobody will be able to prosecute China because there was No LAB LEAK. Covid-19 is a Bioweapon that is proven by forensic Evidence! Also there were Multiple Covid-19 Bioweapons released that is also proven with Forensic Evidence! We have the Technology to look at the Covid-19 Virus which will show us what we want to know.
The Evidence Proves Something Far More Sinister is going on! Both USA & China are directly implicated for creating & ACCIDENTALLY releasing the BIOWEAPONs at least on 2 Separate occasions! Covid-19 was NOT Engineered to spread beyond a Nations border, it was designed to Mutate & burn out so it doesn’t go to far beyond target! Again MANY Countries & Universities have the Technology to figure this out! Releasing the Bioweapon & Manually Spreading the Bioweapon so it causes a Pandemic ARE 2 Separate Crimes.
Again Covid-19 is part of the 2020 Election rigging crime. Based off Trump’s speech it sure looks like there will be Selective Prosecutions = no blind Justice! Elements of our CIA also hacked the 2020 elections but they changed the Votes, China didn’t do that! We have former CIA/Military foreign election riggers who know & have identified the CIA & NATO Operatives who hacked the 2020 elections!
Ignoring CIA Hacking & Amplifying China’s small role is a big big Mistake. When you see China’s crime in the 2020 election you will see China alone couldn’t have swung the election. It’s like blaming the corrupt car thief who stole a car for Bank Robbers, blaming a car thief for Bank Robbery & Murdering the Security at the bank when the evidence proves the car thief was in a different country when the robbery & murder took place.
Again CIA, FBI, DOJ, etc.. ARE Prosecuting their own! Read the documents on the White House Website which represents 1/3 of the Power in the USA. Like it or not Trump has an extreme amount of Power! CIA, FBI, DOJ, etc.. Have Power! Those entities claim they have Rock Solid Evidence of Election rigging because THEY DO!
Lots of Peeps are going to Jail after Trump is impeached by the House! If Trump is jailed by the Senate lots of Peeps are still going to jail for election rigging!
Foaming Mouth Liberals use your brains & stop spewing lies.
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Again CIA, FBI, DOJ, etc.. ARE Prosecuting their own! Read the documents on the White House Website which represents 1/3 of the Power in the USA. Like it or not Trump has an extreme amount of Power! CIA, FBI, DOJ, etc.. Have Power! Those entities claim they have Rock Solid Evidence of Election rigging because THEY DO!
Lots of Peeps are going to Jail after Trump is impeached by the House! If Trump is jailed by the Senate lots of Peeps are still going to jail for election rigging!
Foaming Mouth Liberals use your brains & stop spewing lies.
Just so you know Fox Entertainment is on the hook for over $700 million for lying about the election. No way they want to get close to any more of MAGANT BullSH T About the election being rigged or stolen! The Court of Court Showed Trump attorneys the door before there briefs could hit there decks! So, basically Trump is previewing his argument that the upcoming elections are “rigged” when the Democrats predictably will gain ground in Congress…..Other than the poll between Trumps ears he is polling at about 37- 34 % approval! He will be getting his party the election they have earned a mandated beating like never seen before for! And will enjoy it knowing that he and his family & others will someday in the near future be in court to hear the music and just like his January 6th rebellion the participants will repent and blame him! And to this day the country knew the score when he demanded Georgia find 11,200 votes ! Just think if Al Gore had pulled that and asked for Florida to find only 538 votes….That is a more reasonable request in possibility! But no he took the high road and obeyed the courts ruling!
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Just so you know Fox Entertainment is on the hook for over $700 million for lying about the election. No way they want to get close to any more of MAGANT BullSH T About the election being rigged or stolen! The Court of Court Showed Trump attorneys the door before there briefs could hit there decks! So, basically Trump is previewing his argument that the upcoming elections are “rigged” when the Democrats predictably will gain ground in Congress…..Other than the poll between Trumps ears he is polling at about 37- 34 % approval! He will be getting his party the election they have earned a mandated beating like never seen before for! And will enjoy it knowing that he and his family & others will someday in the near future be in court to hear the music and just like his January 6th rebellion the participants will repent and blame him! And to this day the country knew the score when he demanded Georgia find 11,200 votes ! Just think if Al Gore had pulled that and asked for Florida to find only 538 votes….That is a more reasonable request in possibility! But no he took the high road and obeyed the courts ruling!
@FresnoHawk68 Just so you know Fox Entertainment is on the hook for over $700 million for lying about the election. No way they want to get close to any more of MAGANT BullSH T About the election being rigged or stolen! The Court of Court Showed Trump attorneys the door before there briefs could hit there decks! So, basically Trump is previewing his argument that the upcoming elections are “rigged” when the Democrats predictably will gain ground in Congress…..Other than the poll between Trumps ears he is polling at about 37- 34 % approval! He will be getting his party the election they have earned a mandated beating like never seen before for! And will enjoy it knowing that he and his family & others will someday in the near future be in court to hear the music and just like his January 6th rebellion the participants will repent and blame him! And to this day the country knew the score when he demanded Georgia find 11,200 votes ! Just think if Al Gore had pulled that and asked for Florida to find only 538 votes….That is a more reasonable request in possibility! But no he took the high road and obeyed the courts ruling!
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@FresnoHawk68 Just so you know Fox Entertainment is on the hook for over $700 million for lying about the election. No way they want to get close to any more of MAGANT BullSH T About the election being rigged or stolen! The Court of Court Showed Trump attorneys the door before there briefs could hit there decks! So, basically Trump is previewing his argument that the upcoming elections are “rigged” when the Democrats predictably will gain ground in Congress…..Other than the poll between Trumps ears he is polling at about 37- 34 % approval! He will be getting his party the election they have earned a mandated beating like never seen before for! And will enjoy it knowing that he and his family & others will someday in the near future be in court to hear the music and just like his January 6th rebellion the participants will repent and blame him! And to this day the country knew the score when he demanded Georgia find 11,200 votes ! Just think if Al Gore had pulled that and asked for Florida to find only 538 votes….That is a more reasonable request in possibility! But no he took the high road and obeyed the courts ruling!
@thirdperson Repeat a fictional story enough and in time it becomes the truth! This powerful concept is known in psychology as the "illusory truth effect" Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." While widely attributed to Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels! And it worked with a whole generation of Germans ! First with his party and then the military and citizens which led to a World War and the death of 7+ million humans who were cast as inferior or combatants ! This concept is being employed by Trump has created the most spectacular consequences of Trump’s return to power and the mess he has made and collapse of global respect for America Trump declare America is respected ! Unfortunately he and his administration typical conflation of “respect” with “fear you’ll use deadly brute force to hurt me”, it is also a projection phenomenon that also captures the hearts of his followers: that if we pissed off whole world we “ We must be doing something right “. Because every negative perception about us is just envy of our greatness by inferiors who don’t know their place. So here we are now the rest of the world is right to not trust the USA anymore, because electing trump is now not a one-time occurrence that can be chalked up to ‘oops, we sure learned our lesson there’. Fool us once, shame on trump. Fool us twice, etc…Hopefully we as a nation can right the ship and learn from this stained era of are history before we unseat the 1930 Germans and disastrous Third Reich Nazis who used this same method of propaganda to legitimize their rule! Midterms will have consequences affecting the world not just the nation!
@joe pockets
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
@thirdperson Repeat a fictional story enough and in time it becomes the truth! This powerful concept is known in psychology as the "illusory truth effect" Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." While widely attributed to Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels! And it worked with a whole generation of Germans ! First with his party and then the military and citizens which led to a World War and the death of 7+ million humans who were cast as inferior or combatants ! This concept is being employed by Trump has created the most spectacular consequences of Trump’s return to power and the mess he has made and collapse of global respect for America Trump declare America is respected ! Unfortunately he and his administration typical conflation of “respect” with “fear you’ll use deadly brute force to hurt me”, it is also a projection phenomenon that also captures the hearts of his followers: that if we pissed off whole world we “ We must be doing something right “. Because every negative perception about us is just envy of our greatness by inferiors who don’t know their place. So here we are now the rest of the world is right to not trust the USA anymore, because electing trump is now not a one-time occurrence that can be chalked up to ‘oops, we sure learned our lesson there’. Fool us once, shame on trump. Fool us twice, etc…Hopefully we as a nation can right the ship and learn from this stained era of are history before we unseat the 1930 Germans and disastrous Third Reich Nazis who used this same method of propaganda to legitimize their rule! Midterms will have consequences affecting the world not just the nation!
When the new Pentagon data is combined with updated totals for Operation Epic Fury, 18 troops have died and another 624 have been wounded since trump violated the promise he made to the American voters and launched a war against Iran on Feb. 28.
I thought it was especially scummy about how they removed the names of the four soldiers who were recently killed because the Dept of War is too scared to admit to Congress that these are war deaths even though DUI hire Hegseth regularly refers to it as a war. It’s war war war until it’s politically inconvenient, then time to lie about how it’s not a war.
Trump lies so much is spot on again!
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
When the new Pentagon data is combined with updated totals for Operation Epic Fury, 18 troops have died and another 624 have been wounded since trump violated the promise he made to the American voters and launched a war against Iran on Feb. 28.
I thought it was especially scummy about how they removed the names of the four soldiers who were recently killed because the Dept of War is too scared to admit to Congress that these are war deaths even though DUI hire Hegseth regularly refers to it as a war. It’s war war war until it’s politically inconvenient, then time to lie about how it’s not a war.
I just wish someone would ask Trump or one of his cronies what a communist is, or who the four soldiers told they did it so Iran didnt get a nuclear weapon ! Soldiers don't think like that (unless you have the worst soldiers on the planet) ; they do what they're told, and they do it for the guy standing right next to them in their squad and their closest command leader ! There are so many opportunities to show the world that they have no idea what they're talking about, but your media keeps letting Trump get away with his bullshit. One thing is all his lies, where it could come down to a word-for-word altercation, but there are so many opportunities to show that he's full of crap - where there is no “ifs” and “buts”
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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I just wish someone would ask Trump or one of his cronies what a communist is, or who the four soldiers told they did it so Iran didnt get a nuclear weapon ! Soldiers don't think like that (unless you have the worst soldiers on the planet) ; they do what they're told, and they do it for the guy standing right next to them in their squad and their closest command leader ! There are so many opportunities to show the world that they have no idea what they're talking about, but your media keeps letting Trump get away with his bullshit. One thing is all his lies, where it could come down to a word-for-word altercation, but there are so many opportunities to show that he's full of crap - where there is no “ifs” and “buts”
Of course it is a lie - you are basically born with a specific IQ (it isn’t even worth mentioning how little it can fluctuate through aging) - that is also why some kids have extremely high IQs - it is not because they will eventually evolve into somekind of super human - it would make no sense at all to keep checking your IQ
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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Of course it is a lie - you are basically born with a specific IQ (it isn’t even worth mentioning how little it can fluctuate through aging) - that is also why some kids have extremely high IQs - it is not because they will eventually evolve into somekind of super human - it would make no sense at all to keep checking your IQ
Trump keeps attacking Canada with fiction instead of fact
D.Dale, CNN - Throughout his on-again, off-again trade war against our best trading partner, Canada, Trump’s criticism of the US neighbor has been filled with lies – a remarkable variety of assertions that either wildly distort a kernel of truth or are just plain made up.
Among other things, the president has falsely claimed that
the Canadian public likes the idea of becoming the 51st US state, which is overwhelmingly unpopular with the Canadian public;
that Canada is one of the world’s highest-tariff countries, though it is actually low in world rankings;
that Canada prohibits US banks from operating there, though more than a dozen US banks operate in Canada;
that Canada doesn’t accept US agricultural exports, though Canada is the world’s second-LARGEST purchaser of those US exports;
that Chinese and Russian ships are “constantly surrounding” Canada, though that never happened;
and that “they don’t, essentially, have a military,” though Canada’s very-much-existent military jointly operates the North American Aerospace Defense Command with the US and fought alongside the US in Afghanistan, against ISIS in the Middle East and in various prior wars.
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Trump keeps attacking Canada with fiction instead of fact
D.Dale, CNN - Throughout his on-again, off-again trade war against our best trading partner, Canada, Trump’s criticism of the US neighbor has been filled with lies – a remarkable variety of assertions that either wildly distort a kernel of truth or are just plain made up.
Among other things, the president has falsely claimed that
the Canadian public likes the idea of becoming the 51st US state, which is overwhelmingly unpopular with the Canadian public;
that Canada is one of the world’s highest-tariff countries, though it is actually low in world rankings;
that Canada prohibits US banks from operating there, though more than a dozen US banks operate in Canada;
that Canada doesn’t accept US agricultural exports, though Canada is the world’s second-LARGEST purchaser of those US exports;
that Chinese and Russian ships are “constantly surrounding” Canada, though that never happened;
and that “they don’t, essentially, have a military,” though Canada’s very-much-existent military jointly operates the North American Aerospace Defense Command with the US and fought alongside the US in Afghanistan, against ISIS in the Middle East and in various prior wars.
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No, They did not.
His approval sits closer to 37% - 40%.
So, basically Trump is previewing his argument that the upcoming elections are “rigged” when the Democrats predictably will gain ground in Congress…..Other than the poll between Trumps ears he is polling at about 37- 34 % approval! He will be getting his party the election they have earned a mandated beating like never seen before for! And will enjoy it knowing that he and his family & others will someday in the near future be in court to hear the music and just like his January 6th rebellion the participants will repent and blame him! And to this day the country knew the score when he demanded Georgia find 11,200 votes ! Just think if Al Gore had pulled that and asked for Florida to find only 538 votes….That is a more reasonable request in possibility! But no he took the high road and obeyed the courts ruling! 
Soldiers don't think like that (unless you have the worst soldiers on the planet) ; they do what they're told, and they do it for the guy standing right next to them in their squad and their closest command leader ! There are so many opportunities to show the world that they have no idea what they're talking about, but your media keeps letting Trump get away with his bullshit. One thing is all his lies, where it could come down to a word-for-word altercation, but there are so many opportunities to show that he's full of crap - where there is no “ifs” and “buts”
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