I had a bit of trouble reconciling differences between the scrutinization of Martin's personal life with Zimmerman's personal life. I hope I did an adequate job, but the rationale behind opposing one and justifying the other is somewhat thin, I admit.
I believe that was your point. It landed.
However, only one of them pulled a trigger, and ended a life that day. Only one of them has the opportunity to tell their side of the story and defend their version of events. Again, the casual nature of accepting that version of events is a big part of the problem.
Where did your common sense go?
IF ZIMMERMAN TRUELY HAD A BROKEN NOSE AND SCUFF MARKS ON THE BACK OF HIS MELON THEN HIS STORY IS BELIEVABLE AND WE CAN'T ARREST HIM ACCORDINGLY.
Yes he was dumb enough to complicate things by having a gun on his person while performing neighborhood watch duties.
Unfortunately, we have to reconstruct the events with evidence we have.
Where is the uproar on all the BonB killings?
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Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:
I had a bit of trouble reconciling differences between the scrutinization of Martin's personal life with Zimmerman's personal life. I hope I did an adequate job, but the rationale behind opposing one and justifying the other is somewhat thin, I admit.
I believe that was your point. It landed.
However, only one of them pulled a trigger, and ended a life that day. Only one of them has the opportunity to tell their side of the story and defend their version of events. Again, the casual nature of accepting that version of events is a big part of the problem.
Where did your common sense go?
IF ZIMMERMAN TRUELY HAD A BROKEN NOSE AND SCUFF MARKS ON THE BACK OF HIS MELON THEN HIS STORY IS BELIEVABLE AND WE CAN'T ARREST HIM ACCORDINGLY.
Yes he was dumb enough to complicate things by having a gun on his person while performing neighborhood watch duties.
Unfortunately, we have to reconstruct the events with evidence we have.
IF ZIMMERMAN TRUELY HAD A BROKEN NOSE AND SCUFF MARKS ON THE BACK OF HIS MELON THEN HIS STORY IS BELIEVABLE AND WE CAN'T ARREST HIM ACCORDINGLY.
Wow, you actually believe that>? I hope not.
So I can shoot somebody, get my friend to punch me in the face so I have a mark, and then call it 'self'defence' when the police get there? And you think they'll say, 'yea don't worry, we can see the mark where he hit you'
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
IF ZIMMERMAN TRUELY HAD A BROKEN NOSE AND SCUFF MARKS ON THE BACK OF HIS MELON THEN HIS STORY IS BELIEVABLE AND WE CAN'T ARREST HIM ACCORDINGLY.
Wow, you actually believe that>? I hope not.
So I can shoot somebody, get my friend to punch me in the face so I have a mark, and then call it 'self'defence' when the police get there? And you think they'll say, 'yea don't worry, we can see the mark where he hit you'
So I can shoot somebody, get my friend to punch me in the face so I have a mark, and then call it 'self'defence' when the police get there? And you think they'll say, 'yea don't worry, we can see the mark where he hit you'
OMG.
Except that there is such a thing as chain of events where cops or witnesses would have already been on the scene before that could happen reasonably.
My guess is the cops already took this into consideration and its complete bullshit for you to try to interject that.
Ask CD...cops aren't stupid.
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Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:
Wow, you actually believe that>? I hope not.
So I can shoot somebody, get my friend to punch me in the face so I have a mark, and then call it 'self'defence' when the police get there? And you think they'll say, 'yea don't worry, we can see the mark where he hit you'
OMG.
Except that there is such a thing as chain of events where cops or witnesses would have already been on the scene before that could happen reasonably.
My guess is the cops already took this into consideration and its complete bullshit for you to try to interject that.
So I can shoot somebody, get my friend to punch me in the face so I have a mark, and then call it 'self'defence' when the police get there? And you think they'll say, 'yea don't worry, we can see the mark where he hit you'
I don't know what it is but your bias is preventing you from seeing this objectively. What is your bias?
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Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:
Wow, you actually believe that>? I hope not.
So I can shoot somebody, get my friend to punch me in the face so I have a mark, and then call it 'self'defence' when the police get there? And you think they'll say, 'yea don't worry, we can see the mark where he hit you'
I don't know what it is but your bias is preventing you from seeing this objectively. What is your bias?
The actions you cite and the information obtained by the police are not criminal. That is not to say a criminal act did or did not occur. We just don't know.
I am more bothered by what was not investigated and as a result of what we did not know, either a young man was wrongly murdered or a innocent man is being crucified.
You don't have the slightest idea what was "investigated" considering you believe that the police never questioned Zimmerman.
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
The actions you cite and the information obtained by the police are not criminal. That is not to say a criminal act did or did not occur. We just don't know.
I am more bothered by what was not investigated and as a result of what we did not know, either a young man was wrongly murdered or a innocent man is being crucified.
You don't have the slightest idea what was "investigated" considering you believe that the police never questioned Zimmerman.
You don't have to look very far to find the propaganda pylons doing the work of the right wing machine for them, smearing Trayvon and unilaterally defending Zimmerman.
OOPS
Or am I 'beclowning' you again?
That's usually the next step in the 14dadouche mental breakdown cycle of immaturity
So what's NEXT?
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Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:
You don't have to look very far to find the propaganda pylons doing the work of the right wing machine for them, smearing Trayvon and unilaterally defending Zimmerman.
OOPS
Or am I 'beclowning' you again?
That's usually the next step in the 14dadouche mental breakdown cycle of immaturity
Wouldn't an arrest and a proper investigation & trial shed some light on the 'facts?'
Either way, the SMEAR campaign against Trayvon Martin is completely offsides.
That's the point of this thread.
Calling for an arrest like this proves that you're biased. Or it proves that you know very little about the legal system. Or both.
Saying that only Martin is the victim of a smear campain when they are both victims of the smear campain. Come on! Be honest. You have your mind already made up.
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Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:
Wouldn't an arrest and a proper investigation & trial shed some light on the 'facts?'
Either way, the SMEAR campaign against Trayvon Martin is completely offsides.
That's the point of this thread.
Calling for an arrest like this proves that you're biased. Or it proves that you know very little about the legal system. Or both.
Saying that only Martin is the victim of a smear campain when they are both victims of the smear campain. Come on! Be honest. You have your mind already made up.
Wouldn't an arrest and a proper investigation & trial shed some light on the 'facts?'
Wait a minute. What if the investigation turns up to exhonerate the person you're investigating? Wouldn't that mean that you had improperly jailed that person, just to find out the facts?
...and you say its my oppinion that doesn't carry much weight around here?
Perhaps you just have friends that are as clueless as you are.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by DiscoD69:
Wouldn't an arrest and a proper investigation & trial shed some light on the 'facts?'
Wait a minute. What if the investigation turns up to exhonerate the person you're investigating? Wouldn't that mean that you had improperly jailed that person, just to find out the facts?
...and you say its my oppinion that doesn't carry much weight around here?
Perhaps you just have friends that are as clueless as you are.
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