Ford and Mattel pulled their annual guidance today, with Ford saying it anticipates a $1.5 billion loss due to tariffs and Mattel planning price hikes. All caused by the dumbest economic plan in history. Yay tariffs! Trump’s war on America is just starting to hit new levels with his unprecedented sales taxes (aka tariffs).
Tariffs to cost Ford $1.5 billion in 2025, Ford pulls guidance
Ford and Mattel pulled their annual guidance today, with Ford saying it anticipates a $1.5 billion loss due to tariffs and Mattel planning price hikes. All caused by the dumbest economic plan in history. Yay tariffs! Trump’s war on America is just starting to hit new levels with his unprecedented sales taxes (aka tariffs).
The White House turned on Amazon last week for being up front about tariff costs on its little-used Amazon Haul website. They are suddenly going to get very critical of any company blaming tariffs for losses. It’s what anti-capitalist fascists do!
The White House turned on Amazon last week for being up front about tariff costs on its little-used Amazon Haul website. They are suddenly going to get very critical of any company blaming tariffs for losses. It’s what anti-capitalist fascists do!
To be fair, Ford shifted manufacturing to Mexico to cut labor costs, they have not cut the prices of their vehicles to the consumer, the difference in labor cost and lost jobs has been to increase profits and they have spent BILLIONS to build in Mexico, this is their own fault and doing and if they get their fingers burnt then that is the risk/reward of offshoring production as they have.
I would never buy a vehicle made in Mexico from Ford or Stellantis or Honda or Toyota etc.
To be fair, Ford shifted manufacturing to Mexico to cut labor costs, they have not cut the prices of their vehicles to the consumer, the difference in labor cost and lost jobs has been to increase profits and they have spent BILLIONS to build in Mexico, this is their own fault and doing and if they get their fingers burnt then that is the risk/reward of offshoring production as they have.
I would never buy a vehicle made in Mexico from Ford or Stellantis or Honda or Toyota etc.
Ford Motor Company suspended their guidance .. to be stated at a later point in time ......
To be fair, you’re playing semantics over a meaningless point. Yahoo Finance has one headline saying they pulled their guidance, and another says they suspended it.
Meanwhile, Reuters has a headline saying they pulled their guidance.
You know what everyone says? Ford anticipates a $1.5 billion loss in 2025 due to the Trump tariffs.
Ford Motor Company suspended their guidance .. to be stated at a later point in time ......
To be fair, you’re playing semantics over a meaningless point. Yahoo Finance has one headline saying they pulled their guidance, and another says they suspended it.
Meanwhile, Reuters has a headline saying they pulled their guidance.
You know what everyone says? Ford anticipates a $1.5 billion loss in 2025 due to the Trump tariffs.
This just in:
General Motors said it is bracing for a potential impact from auto tariffs as high as $5 billion in 2025.
This just in:
General Motors said it is bracing for a potential impact from auto tariffs as high as $5 billion in 2025.
Massive layoffs headed for Detroit:
Spencer Hakimian, founder of Tolou Capital Management, suggested that layoffs could hit Detroit as a result of Ford’s announcement. Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that Ford CEO Jim Farley warned that there could be possible layoffs as a result of Trump’s policies.
“Get ready for pink slips in Detroit. All for nothing,” Hakimian wrote on social media platform X on Monday.
Massive layoffs headed for Detroit:
Spencer Hakimian, founder of Tolou Capital Management, suggested that layoffs could hit Detroit as a result of Ford’s announcement. Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that Ford CEO Jim Farley warned that there could be possible layoffs as a result of Trump’s policies.
“Get ready for pink slips in Detroit. All for nothing,” Hakimian wrote on social media platform X on Monday.
Massive layoffs headed for Detroit: Spencer Hakimian, founder of Tolou Capital Management, suggested that layoffs could hit Detroit as a result of Ford’s announcement. Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that Ford CEO Jim Farley warned that there could be possible layoffs as a result of Trump’s policies. “Get ready for pink slips in Detroit. All for nothing,” Hakimian wrote on social media platform X on Monday.
Been a staunch union guy my whole entire life, but these auto workers backing trump are gonna now face what that means standing with him. Guess they forgot biden was on the picket line while trump was at a non union event.
Only way cars will ever be cheap made in America is if auto workers start working for 10-15 an hour with no benefits.
Massive layoffs headed for Detroit: Spencer Hakimian, founder of Tolou Capital Management, suggested that layoffs could hit Detroit as a result of Ford’s announcement. Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that Ford CEO Jim Farley warned that there could be possible layoffs as a result of Trump’s policies. “Get ready for pink slips in Detroit. All for nothing,” Hakimian wrote on social media platform X on Monday.
Been a staunch union guy my whole entire life, but these auto workers backing trump are gonna now face what that means standing with him. Guess they forgot biden was on the picket line while trump was at a non union event.
Only way cars will ever be cheap made in America is if auto workers start working for 10-15 an hour with no benefits.
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Massive layoffs headed for Detroit: Spencer Hakimian, founder of Tolou Capital Management, suggested that layoffs could hit Detroit as a result of Ford’s announcement. Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that Ford CEO Jim Farley warned that there could be possible layoffs as a result of Trump’s policies. “Get ready for pink slips in Detroit. All for nothing,” Hakimian wrote on social media platform X on Monday. Been a staunch union guy my whole entire life, but these auto workers backing trump are gonna now face what that means standing with him. Guess they forgot biden was on the picket line while trump was at a non union event. Only way cars will ever be cheap made in America is if auto workers start working for 10-15 an hour with no benefits.
Ford’s prices are competitive and frankly pretty low. The tariffs are crushing their bottom line (importing raw materials like steel, and importing premade parts like brake pads). It’s not the labor costs, it’s the tariffs.
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Massive layoffs headed for Detroit: Spencer Hakimian, founder of Tolou Capital Management, suggested that layoffs could hit Detroit as a result of Ford’s announcement. Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that Ford CEO Jim Farley warned that there could be possible layoffs as a result of Trump’s policies. “Get ready for pink slips in Detroit. All for nothing,” Hakimian wrote on social media platform X on Monday. Been a staunch union guy my whole entire life, but these auto workers backing trump are gonna now face what that means standing with him. Guess they forgot biden was on the picket line while trump was at a non union event. Only way cars will ever be cheap made in America is if auto workers start working for 10-15 an hour with no benefits.
Ford’s prices are competitive and frankly pretty low. The tariffs are crushing their bottom line (importing raw materials like steel, and importing premade parts like brake pads). It’s not the labor costs, it’s the tariffs.
To be fair, Ford shifted manufacturing to Mexico to cut labor costs, they have not cut the prices of their vehicles to the consumer, the difference in labor cost and lost jobs has been to increase profits and they have spent BILLIONS to build in Mexico, this is their own fault and doing and if they get their fingers burnt then that is the risk/reward of offshoring production as they have. I would never buy a vehicle made in Mexico from Ford or Stellantis or Honda or Toyota etc.
Good post.
The problem is everybody else does it and if Ford doesn't they fall behind. Dodge large trucks made in Mexico too.
Also; Despite its moves to pull back on its EV ambitions, Ford expects its Model e unit losses to reach up to $5.5 billion as it continues to weigh down the company's bottom line.
To be fair, Ford shifted manufacturing to Mexico to cut labor costs, they have not cut the prices of their vehicles to the consumer, the difference in labor cost and lost jobs has been to increase profits and they have spent BILLIONS to build in Mexico, this is their own fault and doing and if they get their fingers burnt then that is the risk/reward of offshoring production as they have. I would never buy a vehicle made in Mexico from Ford or Stellantis or Honda or Toyota etc.
Good post.
The problem is everybody else does it and if Ford doesn't they fall behind. Dodge large trucks made in Mexico too.
Also; Despite its moves to pull back on its EV ambitions, Ford expects its Model e unit losses to reach up to $5.5 billion as it continues to weigh down the company's bottom line.
Interesting article from 2017; https://www.cargroup.org/the-move-to-assemble-vehicles-in-mexico-is-about-more-than-low-wages/
Per American manufacture vehicle built in Mexico;
-Labor costs in Mexico represent a $600 savings.
-Parts cost in Mexico represent a $1500 savings.
-Transporting the vehicle to market a -$900 loss.
-Free trade agreement tariff savings $0.00.
Per Europeon manufacture vehicle built in Mexico;
-Labor costs in Mexico represent a $600 savings.
-Parts cost in Mexico represent a $1500 savings.
-Transporting the vehicle to market a -$300 loss.
-Free trade agreement tariff savings $2500.00.
Interesting article from 2017; https://www.cargroup.org/the-move-to-assemble-vehicles-in-mexico-is-about-more-than-low-wages/
Per American manufacture vehicle built in Mexico;
-Labor costs in Mexico represent a $600 savings.
-Parts cost in Mexico represent a $1500 savings.
-Transporting the vehicle to market a -$900 loss.
-Free trade agreement tariff savings $0.00.
Per Europeon manufacture vehicle built in Mexico;
-Labor costs in Mexico represent a $600 savings.
-Parts cost in Mexico represent a $1500 savings.
-Transporting the vehicle to market a -$300 loss.
-Free trade agreement tariff savings $2500.00.
@UNIMAN FWIW Dodge=Fiat=Stellantis its the same company, which is why I would never ever ever ever own a Dodge truck.
I have had two Dodge trucks, a 1994 one ton dually diesel and a 2000 1/2 ton. Long before Stellantis. Liked them both.
1996 was the 1st year of the style change from the old dodges. It also was the year the new transmissions failed often. I bought my truck used after it had the tranny replaced.
Ford had problems with their 6.0 diesels. Excessive pressure had the head bolts deforming and blown head gaskets. Solution was a heavier strength head bolt installation. My 2009 Chevy 1/2 ton would alarm "Engine Hot, A/C Turned Off" and the radiator cooling fans would run and your temp guage would shutdown. If you disconnected the battery for 10 seconds the alarm went away and a/c worked, temp guage worked, until it decided to do it again. Solution; just change the thermostat and make sure it's AC Delco. The trucks computer is so touchy if the thermostat is stuck open just a little bit the truck freaks out and says it's too hot when it's OK. What stupid programming!
All the manufactures have their issues.
Hey Midnight, nice snide remark.
@UNIMAN FWIW Dodge=Fiat=Stellantis its the same company, which is why I would never ever ever ever own a Dodge truck.
I have had two Dodge trucks, a 1994 one ton dually diesel and a 2000 1/2 ton. Long before Stellantis. Liked them both.
1996 was the 1st year of the style change from the old dodges. It also was the year the new transmissions failed often. I bought my truck used after it had the tranny replaced.
Ford had problems with their 6.0 diesels. Excessive pressure had the head bolts deforming and blown head gaskets. Solution was a heavier strength head bolt installation. My 2009 Chevy 1/2 ton would alarm "Engine Hot, A/C Turned Off" and the radiator cooling fans would run and your temp guage would shutdown. If you disconnected the battery for 10 seconds the alarm went away and a/c worked, temp guage worked, until it decided to do it again. Solution; just change the thermostat and make sure it's AC Delco. The trucks computer is so touchy if the thermostat is stuck open just a little bit the truck freaks out and says it's too hot when it's OK. What stupid programming!
All the manufactures have their issues.
Hey Midnight, nice snide remark.
@UNIMAN
Just the fact you expect anyone to put any value in that 8 year old report. That's all.
Hope your next report is from when you were delivering the Daily Slate & fell off your dinosaur.
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@UNIMAN
Just the fact you expect anyone to put any value in that 8 year old report. That's all.
Hope your next report is from when you were delivering the Daily Slate & fell off your dinosaur.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN FWIW Dodge=Fiat=Stellantis its the same company, which is why I would never ever ever ever own a Dodge truck. I have had two Dodge trucks, a 1994 one ton dually diesel and a 2000 1/2 ton. Long before Stellantis. Liked them both. 1996 was the 1st year of the style change from the old dodges. It also was the year the new transmissions failed often. I bought my truck used after it had the tranny replaced. Ford had problems with their 6.0 diesels. Excessive pressure had the head bolts deforming and blown head gaskets. Solution was a heavier strength head bolt installation. My 2009 Chevy 1/2 ton would alarm "Engine Hot, A/C Turned Off" and the radiator cooling fans would run and your temp guage would shutdown. If you disconnected the battery for 10 seconds the alarm went away and a/c worked, temp guage worked, until it decided to do it again. Solution; just change the thermostat and make sure it's AC Delco. The trucks computer is so touchy if the thermostat is stuck open just a little bit the truck freaks out and says it's too hot when it's OK. What stupid programming! All the manufactures have their issues. Hey Midnight, nice snide remark.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN FWIW Dodge=Fiat=Stellantis its the same company, which is why I would never ever ever ever own a Dodge truck. I have had two Dodge trucks, a 1994 one ton dually diesel and a 2000 1/2 ton. Long before Stellantis. Liked them both. 1996 was the 1st year of the style change from the old dodges. It also was the year the new transmissions failed often. I bought my truck used after it had the tranny replaced. Ford had problems with their 6.0 diesels. Excessive pressure had the head bolts deforming and blown head gaskets. Solution was a heavier strength head bolt installation. My 2009 Chevy 1/2 ton would alarm "Engine Hot, A/C Turned Off" and the radiator cooling fans would run and your temp guage would shutdown. If you disconnected the battery for 10 seconds the alarm went away and a/c worked, temp guage worked, until it decided to do it again. Solution; just change the thermostat and make sure it's AC Delco. The trucks computer is so touchy if the thermostat is stuck open just a little bit the truck freaks out and says it's too hot when it's OK. What stupid programming! All the manufactures have their issues. Hey Midnight, nice snide remark.
@UNIMAN FWIW Dodge=Fiat=Stellantis its the same company, which is why I would never ever ever ever own a Dodge truck.
I would never buy Volkswagon. Junk.
@UNIMAN FWIW Dodge=Fiat=Stellantis its the same company, which is why I would never ever ever ever own a Dodge truck.
I would never buy Volkswagon. Junk.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN FWIW Dodge=Fiat=Stellantis its the same company, which is why I would never ever ever ever own a Dodge truck. I have had two Dodge trucks, a 1994 one ton dually diesel and a 2000 1/2 ton. Long before Stellantis. Liked them both. 1996 was the 1st year of the style change from the old dodges. It also was the year the new transmissions failed often. I bought my truck used after it had the tranny replaced. Ford had problems with their 6.0 diesels. Excessive pressure had the head bolts deforming and blown head gaskets. Solution was a heavier strength head bolt installation. My 2009 Chevy 1/2 ton would alarm "Engine Hot, A/C Turned Off" and the radiator cooling fans would run and your temp guage would shutdown. If you disconnected the battery for 10 seconds the alarm went away and a/c worked, temp guage worked, until it decided to do it again. Solution; just change the thermostat and make sure it's AC Delco. The trucks computer is so touchy if the thermostat is stuck open just a little bit the truck freaks out and says it's too hot when it's OK. What stupid programming! All the manufactures have their issues. Hey Midnight, nice snide remark.Chevy/GM has a recall on any rig with a 6.2 engine from 2021-24 made in Canada due to main/crank bearing failures. Their solution, if your engine hasn't failed, is to use 0w-40 oil.
typical that you would leave out the fact that the motors were gonna be inspected and if they passed the inspection told to use that oil and were given an extended warranty coverage. But like with all your posts ever, you leave out the true facts, cause it doesnt fit your maga cult story line. I could ask a 3rd grader to fact check your posts, thats how easy they are.
Now you can go back to being mad at the world
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN FWIW Dodge=Fiat=Stellantis its the same company, which is why I would never ever ever ever own a Dodge truck. I have had two Dodge trucks, a 1994 one ton dually diesel and a 2000 1/2 ton. Long before Stellantis. Liked them both. 1996 was the 1st year of the style change from the old dodges. It also was the year the new transmissions failed often. I bought my truck used after it had the tranny replaced. Ford had problems with their 6.0 diesels. Excessive pressure had the head bolts deforming and blown head gaskets. Solution was a heavier strength head bolt installation. My 2009 Chevy 1/2 ton would alarm "Engine Hot, A/C Turned Off" and the radiator cooling fans would run and your temp guage would shutdown. If you disconnected the battery for 10 seconds the alarm went away and a/c worked, temp guage worked, until it decided to do it again. Solution; just change the thermostat and make sure it's AC Delco. The trucks computer is so touchy if the thermostat is stuck open just a little bit the truck freaks out and says it's too hot when it's OK. What stupid programming! All the manufactures have their issues. Hey Midnight, nice snide remark.Chevy/GM has a recall on any rig with a 6.2 engine from 2021-24 made in Canada due to main/crank bearing failures. Their solution, if your engine hasn't failed, is to use 0w-40 oil.
typical that you would leave out the fact that the motors were gonna be inspected and if they passed the inspection told to use that oil and were given an extended warranty coverage. But like with all your posts ever, you leave out the true facts, cause it doesnt fit your maga cult story line. I could ask a 3rd grader to fact check your posts, thats how easy they are.
Now you can go back to being mad at the world
How does a defective GM engine fit a MAGA narrative???
You know I tried to come into this thread and have a civil discusion, avoid all the "it's libs faults, no it's MAGA's fault."
OK.
How does a defective GM engine fit a MAGA narrative???
You know I tried to come into this thread and have a civil discusion, avoid all the "it's libs faults, no it's MAGA's fault."
OK.
Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN FWIW Dodge=Fiat=Stellantis its the same company, which is why I would never ever ever ever own a Dodge truck. I have had two Dodge trucks, a 1994 one ton dually diesel and a 2000 1/2 ton. Long before Stellantis. Liked them both. 1996 was the 1st year of the style change from the old dodges. It also was the year the new transmissions failed often. I bought my truck used after it had the tranny replaced. Ford had problems with their 6.0 diesels. Excessive pressure had the head bolts deforming and blown head gaskets. Solution was a heavier strength head bolt installation. My 2009 Chevy 1/2 ton would alarm "Engine Hot, A/C Turned Off" and the radiator cooling fans would run and your temp guage would shutdown. If you disconnected the battery for 10 seconds the alarm went away and a/c worked, temp guage worked, until it decided to do it again. Solution; just change the thermostat and make sure it's AC Delco. The trucks computer is so touchy if the thermostat is stuck open just a little bit the truck freaks out and says it's too hot when it's OK. What stupid programming! All the manufactures have their issues. Hey Midnight, nice snide remark.Chevy/GM has a recall on any rig with a 6.2 engine from 2021-24 made in Canada due to main/crank bearing failures. Their solution, if your engine hasn't failed, is to use 0w-40 oil. typical that you would leave out the fact that the motors were gonna be inspected and if they passed the inspection told to use that oil and were given an extended warranty coverage. But like with all your posts ever, you leave out the true facts, cause it doesnt fit your maga cult story line. I could ask a 3rd grader to fact check your posts, thats how easy they are. Now you can go back to being mad at the world
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN FWIW Dodge=Fiat=Stellantis its the same company, which is why I would never ever ever ever own a Dodge truck. I have had two Dodge trucks, a 1994 one ton dually diesel and a 2000 1/2 ton. Long before Stellantis. Liked them both. 1996 was the 1st year of the style change from the old dodges. It also was the year the new transmissions failed often. I bought my truck used after it had the tranny replaced. Ford had problems with their 6.0 diesels. Excessive pressure had the head bolts deforming and blown head gaskets. Solution was a heavier strength head bolt installation. My 2009 Chevy 1/2 ton would alarm "Engine Hot, A/C Turned Off" and the radiator cooling fans would run and your temp guage would shutdown. If you disconnected the battery for 10 seconds the alarm went away and a/c worked, temp guage worked, until it decided to do it again. Solution; just change the thermostat and make sure it's AC Delco. The trucks computer is so touchy if the thermostat is stuck open just a little bit the truck freaks out and says it's too hot when it's OK. What stupid programming! All the manufactures have their issues. Hey Midnight, nice snide remark.Chevy/GM has a recall on any rig with a 6.2 engine from 2021-24 made in Canada due to main/crank bearing failures. Their solution, if your engine hasn't failed, is to use 0w-40 oil. typical that you would leave out the fact that the motors were gonna be inspected and if they passed the inspection told to use that oil and were given an extended warranty coverage. But like with all your posts ever, you leave out the true facts, cause it doesnt fit your maga cult story line. I could ask a 3rd grader to fact check your posts, thats how easy they are. Now you can go back to being mad at the world
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@THEMUGG
You have to be joking with this reply right? First off why the LIBS comment, just address the engine comment and leave the other kiddie nonsense out even if the OP is annoying you.
Automakers have a variety of ways of engine diagnosis from using the computer and a complex computer diagnostic program where they can hook up their scan computer and run very very specific diagnostic sequences to determine almost anything or if there is a fluid issue they can drain some of the fluid and test it for particulates or they can use a boroscope and put it into the different valves and look and take video.
This isnt the Rockford Files 70s crap cars, most current cars are quite complex and can be diagnosed to a high degree of confidence.
@THEMUGG
You have to be joking with this reply right? First off why the LIBS comment, just address the engine comment and leave the other kiddie nonsense out even if the OP is annoying you.
Automakers have a variety of ways of engine diagnosis from using the computer and a complex computer diagnostic program where they can hook up their scan computer and run very very specific diagnostic sequences to determine almost anything or if there is a fluid issue they can drain some of the fluid and test it for particulates or they can use a boroscope and put it into the different valves and look and take video.
This isnt the Rockford Files 70s crap cars, most current cars are quite complex and can be diagnosed to a high degree of confidence.
@wallstreetcappers
Why not make a libs comment after reading GM engine problem is a MAGA narative that even a third grader can debunk? And the dinosaur comment.
Mugg, did some digging and found faulty crankshafts built in Mexico are the problem. Causes metal contaminates to damage rods and bearings. Can find no details of what the GM "inspection" is. With 600,000 plus vehicles to inspect would imagine they just flush oil pan and look for metal contaminates and engine noise maybe. Hell of a price to pay to get cheaper crankshafts.
@wallstreetcappers
Why not make a libs comment after reading GM engine problem is a MAGA narative that even a third grader can debunk? And the dinosaur comment.
Mugg, did some digging and found faulty crankshafts built in Mexico are the problem. Causes metal contaminates to damage rods and bearings. Can find no details of what the GM "inspection" is. With 600,000 plus vehicles to inspect would imagine they just flush oil pan and look for metal contaminates and engine noise maybe. Hell of a price to pay to get cheaper crankshafts.
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