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    Tariffs to cost Ford $1.5 billion in 2025, Ford pulls guidance

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    Posted: May. 8, 2025 - 7:36 PM ET #26

    Ah, found it, they look for a fault code;

     

    GM’s recall response has two major parts. First, dealers will inspect the engine – including checking for diagnostic trouble code P0016 (which indicates a crankshaft-to-camshaft alignment problem). If this code is present, it’s a red flag that the engine may already have a misaligned or damaged crankshaft/rod, and GM will likely replace or rebuild the engine before returning the vehicle to service? (hagerty.com).

    If the vehicle passes inspection (no fault codes and no abnormal noises), then GM’s remedy is surprisingly straightforward: change the engine oil and filter, and refill with a higher viscosity oil. Instead of the factory-recommended SAE 0W-20 oil that these engines originally called for, dealers are now instructed to use SAE 0W-40 full synthetic oil (8 quarts) in the L87, and also install a new oil filter and an updated oil-filler cap. Owners will even get a manual supplement advising that 0W-40 is the new spec oil for this engine going forward.

    There is a lot of complaints that it took over 28,000 fail complaints before GM even took action and now there is an engine shortage leaving owners without a vehicle. 

    Nothing like paying $60,000+ for a ticking timebomb.

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    Ah, found it, they look for a fault code;

     

    GM’s recall response has two major parts. First, dealers will inspect the engine – including checking for diagnostic trouble code P0016 (which indicates a crankshaft-to-camshaft alignment problem). If this code is present, it’s a red flag that the engine may already have a misaligned or damaged crankshaft/rod, and GM will likely replace or rebuild the engine before returning the vehicle to service? (hagerty.com).

    If the vehicle passes inspection (no fault codes and no abnormal noises), then GM’s remedy is surprisingly straightforward: change the engine oil and filter, and refill with a higher viscosity oil. Instead of the factory-recommended SAE 0W-20 oil that these engines originally called for, dealers are now instructed to use SAE 0W-40 full synthetic oil (8 quarts) in the L87, and also install a new oil filter and an updated oil-filler cap. Owners will even get a manual supplement advising that 0W-40 is the new spec oil for this engine going forward.

    There is a lot of complaints that it took over 28,000 fail complaints before GM even took action and now there is an engine shortage leaving owners without a vehicle. 

    Nothing like paying $60,000+ for a ticking timebomb.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2025 - 8:01 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @wallstreetcappers  Why not make a libs comment after reading GM engine problem is a MAGA narative that even a third grader can debunk?  And the dinosaur comment.    Mugg, did some digging and found faulty crankshafts built in Mexico are the problem. Causes metal contaminates to damage rods and bearings. Can find no details of what the GM "inspection" is. With 600,000 plus vehicles to inspect would imagine they just flush oil pan and look for metal contaminates and engine noise maybe. Hell of a price to pay to get cheaper crankshafts.

     

    Hate to burst your bubble but there are factory defects on American made cars, so stop trying to pin the reason for the defects is because they were built in mexico.  You must believe GM doesnt have any top guys in their plants in other countries. 

    The problem was more then likely an engineering problem to begin with and am sure you probably believe a bunch of mexicans with no education designed the crankshafts.  Never ends

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @wallstreetcappers  Why not make a libs comment after reading GM engine problem is a MAGA narative that even a third grader can debunk?  And the dinosaur comment.    Mugg, did some digging and found faulty crankshafts built in Mexico are the problem. Causes metal contaminates to damage rods and bearings. Can find no details of what the GM "inspection" is. With 600,000 plus vehicles to inspect would imagine they just flush oil pan and look for metal contaminates and engine noise maybe. Hell of a price to pay to get cheaper crankshafts.

     

    Hate to burst your bubble but there are factory defects on American made cars, so stop trying to pin the reason for the defects is because they were built in mexico.  You must believe GM doesnt have any top guys in their plants in other countries. 

    The problem was more then likely an engineering problem to begin with and am sure you probably believe a bunch of mexicans with no education designed the crankshafts.  Never ends

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2025 - 9:09 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @wallstreetcappers  Why not make a libs comment after reading GM engine problem is a MAGA narative that even a third grader can debunk?  And the dinosaur comment.    Mugg, did some digging and found faulty crankshafts built in Mexico are the problem. Causes metal contaminates to damage rods and bearings. Can find no details of what the GM "inspection" is. With 600,000 plus vehicles to inspect would imagine they just flush oil pan and look for metal contaminates and engine noise maybe. Hell of a price to pay to get cheaper crankshafts.

    Which is why I would never buy a vehicle made in Mexico. Follow Scotty Kilmer on youtube, the guy is a genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @wallstreetcappers  Why not make a libs comment after reading GM engine problem is a MAGA narative that even a third grader can debunk?  And the dinosaur comment.    Mugg, did some digging and found faulty crankshafts built in Mexico are the problem. Causes metal contaminates to damage rods and bearings. Can find no details of what the GM "inspection" is. With 600,000 plus vehicles to inspect would imagine they just flush oil pan and look for metal contaminates and engine noise maybe. Hell of a price to pay to get cheaper crankshafts.

    Which is why I would never buy a vehicle made in Mexico. Follow Scotty Kilmer on youtube, the guy is a genius.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2025 - 9:15 PM ET #29

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     Even a third grader could debunk your liberal post.

    "GM attributes the issue to manufacturing flaws in these crankshaft/rod assemblies" an_tongueout

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     Even a third grader could debunk your liberal post.

    "GM attributes the issue to manufacturing flaws in these crankshaft/rod assemblies" an_tongueout

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2025 - 9:20 PM ET #30

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    As it turns out, GM formed its own internal product investigation on January 16, 2025, immediately after the launch of NHTSA investigation. Through a detailed analysis of field data and teardown inspections, GM’s engineering team identified a specific build window between March 1, 2021, and May 31, 2024, during which an increased rate of engine failure was tied to specific manufacturing defects.

    The investigation uncovered two main culprits behind the failures – first, there was evidence of rod-bearing damage resulting from sediment contamination in the crankshaft oil galleries and connecting rods. Second, some crankshafts produced during this period exhibited out-of-spec dimensions and inadequate surface finishes. These combined flaws can lead to accelerated bearing wear, which in turn may cause severe engine damage or outright failure.

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    As it turns out, GM formed its own internal product investigation on January 16, 2025, immediately after the launch of NHTSA investigation. Through a detailed analysis of field data and teardown inspections, GM’s engineering team identified a specific build window between March 1, 2021, and May 31, 2024, during which an increased rate of engine failure was tied to specific manufacturing defects.

    The investigation uncovered two main culprits behind the failures – first, there was evidence of rod-bearing damage resulting from sediment contamination in the crankshaft oil galleries and connecting rods. Second, some crankshafts produced during this period exhibited out-of-spec dimensions and inadequate surface finishes. These combined flaws can lead to accelerated bearing wear, which in turn may cause severe engine damage or outright failure.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2025 - 9:53 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: @wallstreetcappers  Why not make a libs comment after reading GM engine problem is a MAGA narative that even a third grader can debunk?  And the dinosaur comment.    Mugg, did some digging and found faulty crankshafts built in Mexico are the problem. Causes metal contaminates to damage rods and bearings. Can find no details of what the GM "inspection" is. With 600,000 plus vehicles to inspect would imagine they just flush oil pan and look for metal contaminates and engine noise maybe. Hell of a price to pay to get cheaper crankshafts. Which is why I would never buy a vehicle made in Mexico. Follow Scotty Kilmer on youtube, the guy is a genius.

    Just watched his latest. Guy doesn't take a breath! Funny though and tells it like it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: @wallstreetcappers  Why not make a libs comment after reading GM engine problem is a MAGA narative that even a third grader can debunk?  And the dinosaur comment.    Mugg, did some digging and found faulty crankshafts built in Mexico are the problem. Causes metal contaminates to damage rods and bearings. Can find no details of what the GM "inspection" is. With 600,000 plus vehicles to inspect would imagine they just flush oil pan and look for metal contaminates and engine noise maybe. Hell of a price to pay to get cheaper crankshafts. Which is why I would never buy a vehicle made in Mexico. Follow Scotty Kilmer on youtube, the guy is a genius.

    Just watched his latest. Guy doesn't take a breath! Funny though and tells it like it is.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2025 - 10:28 PM ET #32

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     Sub to his channel he has probably 1000 vids and has been a mechanic for 50 years, Ive learned more about how to diagnose and repair my car from him than anyone in my life, he is a straight shooter and knows his stuff.

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     Sub to his channel he has probably 1000 vids and has been a mechanic for 50 years, Ive learned more about how to diagnose and repair my car from him than anyone in my life, he is a straight shooter and knows his stuff.

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2025 - 4:35 AM ET #33

    GM has had its share of engine problems from way before 2015.  The more technology implemented into the engines the worse they get.  Glad mine is just the 5.3 and not the 6.2 and I looked into the high country with tow package(the 6.2).  The cylinder deactivation was the main culprit to get these trucks mph up higher, and when the lifter doesn't deactivate and stays solid the top end grenades.  Even if there is minimal damage the computer puts it in limp mode.  My minimal damage by just one lifter failing cost over 10 grand with parts and labor, lucky for me under warranty.  It was about 14 hours labor per the book.  

    This 6.2 problem is no surprise that GM waited so long to do a recall, usually they send an email out to dealers but if you are out of warranty, you are screwed.  Lower end crank/ main bearing/ rod bearing issues are a complete rebuild.  Whoever decides to keep the same engine with an extended warranty will just have more problems down the road.  Better off with a brand new replacement crate engine instead.  Just like when VW was caught cheating with the TDI, they offered a retro fix with warranty.  I haven't seen too many VW TDIs on the road lately, maybe they shipped them back to the EU where the emissions are less than the US.  VW hade to buyback all those cars at a premium over blue book value

    Ford doesn't have these lifter problems in their coyote motor, it's the overhead cam.  GM just likes to throw money into old tech.  Ok my motorhead rant is over

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    GM has had its share of engine problems from way before 2015.  The more technology implemented into the engines the worse they get.  Glad mine is just the 5.3 and not the 6.2 and I looked into the high country with tow package(the 6.2).  The cylinder deactivation was the main culprit to get these trucks mph up higher, and when the lifter doesn't deactivate and stays solid the top end grenades.  Even if there is minimal damage the computer puts it in limp mode.  My minimal damage by just one lifter failing cost over 10 grand with parts and labor, lucky for me under warranty.  It was about 14 hours labor per the book.  

    This 6.2 problem is no surprise that GM waited so long to do a recall, usually they send an email out to dealers but if you are out of warranty, you are screwed.  Lower end crank/ main bearing/ rod bearing issues are a complete rebuild.  Whoever decides to keep the same engine with an extended warranty will just have more problems down the road.  Better off with a brand new replacement crate engine instead.  Just like when VW was caught cheating with the TDI, they offered a retro fix with warranty.  I haven't seen too many VW TDIs on the road lately, maybe they shipped them back to the EU where the emissions are less than the US.  VW hade to buyback all those cars at a premium over blue book value

    Ford doesn't have these lifter problems in their coyote motor, it's the overhead cam.  GM just likes to throw money into old tech.  Ok my motorhead rant is over

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2025 - 8:11 AM ET #34

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     I'll check him out some more.

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     I'll check him out some more.

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2025 - 4:52 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  You have to be joking with this reply right? First off why the LIBS comment, just address the engine comment and leave the other kiddie nonsense out even if the OP is annoying you. Automakers have a variety of ways of engine diagnosis from using the computer and a complex computer diagnostic program where they can hook up their scan computer and run very very specific diagnostic sequences to determine almost anything or if there is a fluid issue they can drain some of the fluid and test it for particulates or they can use a boroscope and put it into the different valves and look and take video. This isnt the Rockford Files 70s crap cars, most current cars are quite complex and can be diagnosed to a high degree of confidence.
    I'm well aware of how diagnostics work. In this case, if they see a "P0016" code, they will replace the engine. If not, they give you an oil change, new oil cap with the 0w-40 sticker on it, oil filter, & you're on your way.

     The engines in question were all said to have been assembled in the St. Catharines plant in Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  You have to be joking with this reply right? First off why the LIBS comment, just address the engine comment and leave the other kiddie nonsense out even if the OP is annoying you. Automakers have a variety of ways of engine diagnosis from using the computer and a complex computer diagnostic program where they can hook up their scan computer and run very very specific diagnostic sequences to determine almost anything or if there is a fluid issue they can drain some of the fluid and test it for particulates or they can use a boroscope and put it into the different valves and look and take video. This isnt the Rockford Files 70s crap cars, most current cars are quite complex and can be diagnosed to a high degree of confidence.
    I'm well aware of how diagnostics work. In this case, if they see a "P0016" code, they will replace the engine. If not, they give you an oil change, new oil cap with the 0w-40 sticker on it, oil filter, & you're on your way.

     The engines in question were all said to have been assembled in the St. Catharines plant in Canada.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @wallstreetcappers  I'll check him out some more.
    South main auto & Pine Hollow diags are great too. They're the guys the dealerships send rigs to when they can't figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @wallstreetcappers  I'll check him out some more.
    South main auto & Pine Hollow diags are great too. They're the guys the dealerships send rigs to when they can't figure it out.

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2025 - 6:10 PM ET #37

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     The assembled location isnt the only factor because if the parts were made out of spec then they could be assembled in Ohio and it wouldnt matter. Ford and most automakers try and get the cheapest deal they can on any part or component of a vehicle and in this case it came back to bite them. I read that Toyota is having to replace 10k plus engines for similar problems. 

    I would never purchase a vehicle assembled in Mexico for sure but anywhere else its a crap shoot because who knows the quality of the parts in these engines and one thing is for sure most automakers will make you litigate them before they would spend the cash on a new engine, and even then who is to say the engine is new? Scotty has commented that many automakers will warranty refurbs or swap out one saying it is new but it is not new and you have no way of 100% knowing.

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     The assembled location isnt the only factor because if the parts were made out of spec then they could be assembled in Ohio and it wouldnt matter. Ford and most automakers try and get the cheapest deal they can on any part or component of a vehicle and in this case it came back to bite them. I read that Toyota is having to replace 10k plus engines for similar problems. 

    I would never purchase a vehicle assembled in Mexico for sure but anywhere else its a crap shoot because who knows the quality of the parts in these engines and one thing is for sure most automakers will make you litigate them before they would spend the cash on a new engine, and even then who is to say the engine is new? Scotty has commented that many automakers will warranty refurbs or swap out one saying it is new but it is not new and you have no way of 100% knowing.

     
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    Yeah, Toyota had left over "material" from machining process in Tundra motors. At least they jumped on it much quicker than GM.

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    Yeah, Toyota had left over "material" from machining process in Tundra motors. At least they jumped on it much quicker than GM.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: @wallstreetcappers  I'll check him out some more.South main auto & Pine Hollow diags are great too. They're the guys the dealerships send rigs to when they can't figure it out.

    Thanks Mugg, I'll check them out too.

    Cannot believe all the idiots who decide to record videos when they don't know what the hell they are doing. an_eek2

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: @wallstreetcappers  I'll check him out some more.South main auto & Pine Hollow diags are great too. They're the guys the dealerships send rigs to when they can't figure it out.

    Thanks Mugg, I'll check them out too.

    Cannot believe all the idiots who decide to record videos when they don't know what the hell they are doing. an_eek2

     
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      Yep, & just getting decent replacement parts is a crapshoot nowadays. Fortunately, there is so much info available online now that you can narrow it down. I finally had an issue with my 20yo rig last summer......."camshaft position sensor" code......so I replaced them both......not the most fun I've ever had. I heeded advice, bought the Hitachi oem parts for $40/each instead of the Amazon cheepies, & all is good. But I've heard stories of even some oem parts being crap these days.

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      Yep, & just getting decent replacement parts is a crapshoot nowadays. Fortunately, there is so much info available online now that you can narrow it down. I finally had an issue with my 20yo rig last summer......."camshaft position sensor" code......so I replaced them both......not the most fun I've ever had. I heeded advice, bought the Hitachi oem parts for $40/each instead of the Amazon cheepies, & all is good. But I've heard stories of even some oem parts being crap these days.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: @wallstreetcappers  I'll check him out some more.South main auto & Pine Hollow diags are great too. They're the guys the dealerships send rigs to when they can't figure it out. Thanks Mugg, I'll check them out too. Cannot believe all the idiots who decide to record videos when they don't know what the hell they are doing.
    I know what you mean, lol. I repair/restore stereo gear as a hobby, & while there are some really good techs that post on YT there are plenty of hacks too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: @wallstreetcappers  I'll check him out some more.South main auto & Pine Hollow diags are great too. They're the guys the dealerships send rigs to when they can't figure it out. Thanks Mugg, I'll check them out too. Cannot believe all the idiots who decide to record videos when they don't know what the hell they are doing.
    I know what you mean, lol. I repair/restore stereo gear as a hobby, & while there are some really good techs that post on YT there are plenty of hacks too.

     
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     I have an original 04 Taco and it has 75k miles, purchased new and it sits in the garage nice and safe. When Toyota went to turbos they lost me completely, I would never purchase a 4T Tacoma or a 6T Tundra, I have no clue what they were thinking it really has damaged their brand and in some ways you cannot reverse such stupidity.

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     I have an original 04 Taco and it has 75k miles, purchased new and it sits in the garage nice and safe. When Toyota went to turbos they lost me completely, I would never purchase a 4T Tacoma or a 6T Tundra, I have no clue what they were thinking it really has damaged their brand and in some ways you cannot reverse such stupidity.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @wallstreetcappers   Yep, & just getting decent replacement parts is a crapshoot nowadays. Fortunately, there is so much info available online now that you can narrow it down. I finally had an issue with my 20yo rig last summer......."camshaft position sensor" code......so I replaced them both......not the most fun I've ever had. I heeded advice, bought the Hitachi oem parts for $40/each instead of the Amazon cheepies, & all is good. But I've heard stories of even some oem parts being crap these days.

    I'm gonna share my experience in just the last year as concise as possible.

    March 2024, Ford powerstroke hard starting in colder weather, 30F-45F. Research and find rebuilding FICM, fuel injection control module, a good idea. Research ficm rebuilders, find one with many happy customers. Send ficm out for rebuild and get it back quickly. Install and truck starts much better in cold. 

    Two months later after only three starts from install ficm blows 50a fuse, dead. Send it back and they say yes it's dead and can't figure it out, send a different rebuilt ficm. Install and all good again. One year warranty.

    October 2024; drove truck and 5th wheel to northern az. No issuses until at rv park go over speed bumb with truck only at 5mph that slammed the rearend up/down. Hear brake grinding after that. Call Brake shop and take it in next day. Truck brakes grinding bad. Mech. mashing pedal and left rear caliper blows seal, brake fluid all over. Inner brake pad had broken and fell out, caliper on rotor. New caliper, two new rotors. Dually truck, axle shafts have to pulled, rear axle seals replaced.

    One week later passanger side axle seal fails, bad. Take it back and brake shop says defective seal and replaced it again.

    One week later driverside seal fails. Again, defective seal they say. And they complain parts are often defective. This time I watch them and didn't like how they replaced it.

    10 days later drivers side seal leaking, not bad, but leaking. So I throw my hands up and call the Ford Dealership shop. I want rear bearings and seals replaced. Takes two weeks to get in and of course pricey ws hell. But I get it done right. 

    One week later (around Christmas) truck starts and runs very rough until really warmed up. Call Ford dealership shop again and it will take 12 days to get in. Decide to only use truck in emergency til then. And needed to go to post office to pickup a part ordered for my 5th wheel. Truck dies on way back. 50a ficm fuse blown. 

    Call ficm rebuild shop and they send another one under warranty. Put it in and truck, start, and truck wants to come apart! Call ficm shop and they say it's fully tested, good ficm, your truck has issues. Call towtruck and off to Ford Dealership. After a few days Ford calls and says "your ficm is bad". Have Ford install new ficm and then they say two injectors are now bad too. Have two injectors installed and almost a month later truck back to normal. 

    Send the ficm back to ficm rebuild shop, they test it and admit it was defective, offer me a refund and also paid for the two new injectors (not the labor) More than I thought they would do.

    Believe the ficm had a cracked solder joint that caused the cold engine rough running and smoothed out when ficm warmed up (it sits just above top of engine) and then finally died.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @wallstreetcappers   Yep, & just getting decent replacement parts is a crapshoot nowadays. Fortunately, there is so much info available online now that you can narrow it down. I finally had an issue with my 20yo rig last summer......."camshaft position sensor" code......so I replaced them both......not the most fun I've ever had. I heeded advice, bought the Hitachi oem parts for $40/each instead of the Amazon cheepies, & all is good. But I've heard stories of even some oem parts being crap these days.

    I'm gonna share my experience in just the last year as concise as possible.

    March 2024, Ford powerstroke hard starting in colder weather, 30F-45F. Research and find rebuilding FICM, fuel injection control module, a good idea. Research ficm rebuilders, find one with many happy customers. Send ficm out for rebuild and get it back quickly. Install and truck starts much better in cold. 

    Two months later after only three starts from install ficm blows 50a fuse, dead. Send it back and they say yes it's dead and can't figure it out, send a different rebuilt ficm. Install and all good again. One year warranty.

    October 2024; drove truck and 5th wheel to northern az. No issuses until at rv park go over speed bumb with truck only at 5mph that slammed the rearend up/down. Hear brake grinding after that. Call Brake shop and take it in next day. Truck brakes grinding bad. Mech. mashing pedal and left rear caliper blows seal, brake fluid all over. Inner brake pad had broken and fell out, caliper on rotor. New caliper, two new rotors. Dually truck, axle shafts have to pulled, rear axle seals replaced.

    One week later passanger side axle seal fails, bad. Take it back and brake shop says defective seal and replaced it again.

    One week later driverside seal fails. Again, defective seal they say. And they complain parts are often defective. This time I watch them and didn't like how they replaced it.

    10 days later drivers side seal leaking, not bad, but leaking. So I throw my hands up and call the Ford Dealership shop. I want rear bearings and seals replaced. Takes two weeks to get in and of course pricey ws hell. But I get it done right. 

    One week later (around Christmas) truck starts and runs very rough until really warmed up. Call Ford dealership shop again and it will take 12 days to get in. Decide to only use truck in emergency til then. And needed to go to post office to pickup a part ordered for my 5th wheel. Truck dies on way back. 50a ficm fuse blown. 

    Call ficm rebuild shop and they send another one under warranty. Put it in and truck, start, and truck wants to come apart! Call ficm shop and they say it's fully tested, good ficm, your truck has issues. Call towtruck and off to Ford Dealership. After a few days Ford calls and says "your ficm is bad". Have Ford install new ficm and then they say two injectors are now bad too. Have two injectors installed and almost a month later truck back to normal. 

    Send the ficm back to ficm rebuild shop, they test it and admit it was defective, offer me a refund and also paid for the two new injectors (not the labor) More than I thought they would do.

    Believe the ficm had a cracked solder joint that caused the cold engine rough running and smoothed out when ficm warmed up (it sits just above top of engine) and then finally died.

     

     
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     Holy shit! an_speechless

     At some point you start to think either you or your rig is cursed. Cold/cracked solder joints are a real thing. I fixed the control board on my gas furnace......cracked solder joint........& have found countless ones on all the amps/receivers I've repaired. It's surprising how many times these auto repair guys find bad/corroded connections in rigs after every other part has been replaced.

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     Holy shit! an_speechless

     At some point you start to think either you or your rig is cursed. Cold/cracked solder joints are a real thing. I fixed the control board on my gas furnace......cracked solder joint........& have found countless ones on all the amps/receivers I've repaired. It's surprising how many times these auto repair guys find bad/corroded connections in rigs after every other part has been replaced.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @UNIMAN  Holy shit!  At some point you start to think either you or your rig is cursed. Cold/cracked solder joints are a real thing. I fixed the control board on my gas furnace......cracked solder joint........& have found countless ones on all the amps/receivers I've repaired. It's surprising how many times these auto repair guys find bad/corroded connections in rigs after every other part has been replaced.

    The incompetence was the problem. My brake job is good but they couldn't handle the seals or just bought cheap junk. The ficm issue was unbelievable, many swear by the work of the ficm rebuild company yet I had multiple problems. At least they paid for the injectors.

    And, it all happened after I reached my destination and not on road!!!! Have a lot to be thankful for! My rig got me home, no problem. 

    Most of the time I do repairs myself, at home. Being on the road leaves you vulnerable. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @UNIMAN  Holy shit!  At some point you start to think either you or your rig is cursed. Cold/cracked solder joints are a real thing. I fixed the control board on my gas furnace......cracked solder joint........& have found countless ones on all the amps/receivers I've repaired. It's surprising how many times these auto repair guys find bad/corroded connections in rigs after every other part has been replaced.

    The incompetence was the problem. My brake job is good but they couldn't handle the seals or just bought cheap junk. The ficm issue was unbelievable, many swear by the work of the ficm rebuild company yet I had multiple problems. At least they paid for the injectors.

    And, it all happened after I reached my destination and not on road!!!! Have a lot to be thankful for! My rig got me home, no problem. 

    Most of the time I do repairs myself, at home. Being on the road leaves you vulnerable. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Massive layoffs headed for Detroit: Spencer Hakimian, founder of Tolou Capital Management, suggested that layoffs could hit Detroit as a result of Ford’s announcement. Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that Ford CEO Jim Farley warned that there could be possible layoffs as a result of Trump’s policies. “Get ready for pink slips in Detroit. All for nothing,” Hakimian wrote on social media platform X on Monday. Been a staunch union guy my whole entire life, but these auto workers backing trump are gonna now face what that means standing with him. Guess they forgot biden was on the picket line while trump was at a non union event. Only way cars will ever be cheap made in America is if auto workers start working for 10-15 an hour with no benefits.

    Glad to hear you're a union man, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Massive layoffs headed for Detroit: Spencer Hakimian, founder of Tolou Capital Management, suggested that layoffs could hit Detroit as a result of Ford’s announcement. Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that Ford CEO Jim Farley warned that there could be possible layoffs as a result of Trump’s policies. “Get ready for pink slips in Detroit. All for nothing,” Hakimian wrote on social media platform X on Monday. Been a staunch union guy my whole entire life, but these auto workers backing trump are gonna now face what that means standing with him. Guess they forgot biden was on the picket line while trump was at a non union event. Only way cars will ever be cheap made in America is if auto workers start working for 10-15 an hour with no benefits.

    Glad to hear you're a union man, bro.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  I have an original 04 Taco and it has 75k miles, purchased new and it sits in the garage nice and safe. When Toyota went to turbos they lost me completely, I would never purchase a 4T Tacoma or a 6T Tundra, I have no clue what they were thinking it really has damaged their brand and in some ways you cannot reverse such stupidity.

    My buddies twin brother bought one of the new models Tundras, turbo, a couple years ago after being a Tundra man for a while and apparently they're dog shit.

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    @UNIMAN  I have an original 04 Taco and it has 75k miles, purchased new and it sits in the garage nice and safe. When Toyota went to turbos they lost me completely, I would never purchase a 4T Tacoma or a 6T Tundra, I have no clue what they were thinking it really has damaged their brand and in some ways you cannot reverse such stupidity.

    My buddies twin brother bought one of the new models Tundras, turbo, a couple years ago after being a Tundra man for a while and apparently they're dog shit.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN  I have an original 04 Taco and it has 75k miles, purchased new and it sits in the garage nice and safe. When Toyota went to turbos they lost me completely, I would never purchase a 4T Tacoma or a 6T Tundra, I have no clue what they were thinking it really has damaged their brand and in some ways you cannot reverse such stupidity. My buddies twin brother bought one of the new models Tundras, turbo, a couple years ago after being a Tundra man for a while and apparently they're dog shit.

    Yeah the newer ones arent as good as the older ones, thats for sure.thumbs_down

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN  I have an original 04 Taco and it has 75k miles, purchased new and it sits in the garage nice and safe. When Toyota went to turbos they lost me completely, I would never purchase a 4T Tacoma or a 6T Tundra, I have no clue what they were thinking it really has damaged their brand and in some ways you cannot reverse such stupidity. My buddies twin brother bought one of the new models Tundras, turbo, a couple years ago after being a Tundra man for a while and apparently they're dog shit.

    Yeah the newer ones arent as good as the older ones, thats for sure.thumbs_down

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Massive layoffs headed for Detroit: Spencer Hakimian, founder of Tolou Capital Management, suggested that layoffs could hit Detroit as a result of Ford’s announcement. Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that Ford CEO Jim Farley warned that there could be possible layoffs as a result of Trump’s policies. “Get ready for pink slips in Detroit. All for nothing,” Hakimian wrote on social media platform X on Monday. Been a staunch union guy my whole entire life, but these auto workers backing trump are gonna now face what that means standing with him. Guess they forgot biden was on the picket line while trump was at a non union event. Only way cars will ever be cheap made in America is if auto workers start working for 10-15 an hour with no benefits. Glad to hear you're a union man, bro.

    My whole entire life, will back all Union Brothers.  Unions built our countrypeace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Massive layoffs headed for Detroit: Spencer Hakimian, founder of Tolou Capital Management, suggested that layoffs could hit Detroit as a result of Ford’s announcement. Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that Ford CEO Jim Farley warned that there could be possible layoffs as a result of Trump’s policies. “Get ready for pink slips in Detroit. All for nothing,” Hakimian wrote on social media platform X on Monday. Been a staunch union guy my whole entire life, but these auto workers backing trump are gonna now face what that means standing with him. Guess they forgot biden was on the picket line while trump was at a non union event. Only way cars will ever be cheap made in America is if auto workers start working for 10-15 an hour with no benefits. Glad to hear you're a union man, bro.

    My whole entire life, will back all Union Brothers.  Unions built our countrypeace_5

     
     
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     Wall, thats a really great you tube page.

    Thanks for putting it out there for everybodypeace_5

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     Wall, thats a really great you tube page.

    Thanks for putting it out there for everybodypeace_5

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