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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 12:17 AM ET #1

    Remember durning the Saddleback debates?
     
    One of the questions Pastor Rick Warren asked each Presidential candidate which Justices he would not have nominated.
     
    Obama 's answer:
     
    "I would not have nominated Clarence Thomas. I don't think that he, I don't think that he was a strong enough jurist or legal thinker at the time for that elevation. Setting aside the fact that I profoundly disagree with his interpretation of a lot of the Constitution."
     
     
    Now Fast Foward  about 3 & 1/2 months ............
     
    12/04/08
    The Supreme Court plans to meet Friday to decide whether to hear a case that could determine whether President-elect Barack Obama ever becomes the nation's president.

    Justice Clarence Thomas picked up the petition to hear New Jersey attorney Leo Donofrio's lawsuit after it was denied by Justice David H. Souter. Justice Thomas referred it to the full court, which decided to distribute the case for the judges' conference.

    The decision to put the case on Friday's docket resulted from more than a dozen lawsuits challenging Mr. Obama's right to be president based on his citizenship at birth. The issue preoccupied many conservative bloggers in the weeks before the Nov. 4 election.

    President-elect Barack Obama was born under the jurisdiction of a foreign power, Britain, and is therefore ineligible to serve as president of the United States, according to a lawsuit that has reached the Supreme Court.

                                                                 Washington Times
     
     
    Maybe it's not all over for your girl ....Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton .............
     
     
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    Remember durning the Saddleback debates?
     
    One of the questions Pastor Rick Warren asked each Presidential candidate which Justices he would not have nominated.
     
    Obama 's answer:
     
    "I would not have nominated Clarence Thomas. I don't think that he, I don't think that he was a strong enough jurist or legal thinker at the time for that elevation. Setting aside the fact that I profoundly disagree with his interpretation of a lot of the Constitution."
     
     
    Now Fast Foward  about 3 & 1/2 months ............
     
    12/04/08
    The Supreme Court plans to meet Friday to decide whether to hear a case that could determine whether President-elect Barack Obama ever becomes the nation's president.

    Justice Clarence Thomas picked up the petition to hear New Jersey attorney Leo Donofrio's lawsuit after it was denied by Justice David H. Souter. Justice Thomas referred it to the full court, which decided to distribute the case for the judges' conference.

    The decision to put the case on Friday's docket resulted from more than a dozen lawsuits challenging Mr. Obama's right to be president based on his citizenship at birth. The issue preoccupied many conservative bloggers in the weeks before the Nov. 4 election.

    President-elect Barack Obama was born under the jurisdiction of a foreign power, Britain, and is therefore ineligible to serve as president of the United States, according to a lawsuit that has reached the Supreme Court.

                                                                 Washington Times
     
     
    Maybe it's not all over for your girl ....Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton .............
     
     
     
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    ....and she might  be available, if this job offer falls through.

     

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Polls show that Americans overwhelmingly approve of Sen. Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, but will the founding fathers veto this popular addition to Barack Obama's "team of rivals"?

    Yes, according to one conservative interpretation of the Constitution.

    "Article 1, Section 6 of the Constitution says the following:

    "No Senator or Representative shall, during the time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time."

    Translation: A lawmaker cannot fill a position if the salary for that position has been raised during that lawmaker's term in office.

    In January, President Bush signed an executive order increasing the salary for the secretary of state and other Cabinet positions by $4,700. Hillary Clinton has been in the Senate since January 2001.

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    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Polls show that Americans overwhelmingly approve of Sen. Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, but will the founding fathers veto this popular addition to Barack Obama's "team of rivals"?

    Yes, according to one conservative interpretation of the Constitution.

    "Article 1, Section 6 of the Constitution says the following:

    "No Senator or Representative shall, during the time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time."

    Translation: A lawmaker cannot fill a position if the salary for that position has been raised during that lawmaker's term in office.

    In January, President Bush signed an executive order increasing the salary for the secretary of state and other Cabinet positions by $4,700. Hillary Clinton has been in the Senate since January 2001.

     
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    Slim, still trying to beat this dead horse to death. You just wont give up.
     
    Hey by the way how is that free viagra you are getting, working out for you?
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    Slim, still trying to beat this dead horse to death. You just wont give up.
     
    Hey by the way how is that free viagra you are getting, working out for you?
     
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    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 1:45 AM ET #6

     UAW president Ron Gettelfinger said his union has agreed in principle to give up the "jobs bank" at General Motors, Chrysler and Ford which paid thousands of its members nearly a full wage while on layoff. The UAW will also allow the companies to defer making billions of dollars in contributions to a new health fund for its retirees, and the UAW viagra benefit.....

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     UAW president Ron Gettelfinger said his union has agreed in principle to give up the "jobs bank" at General Motors, Chrysler and Ford which paid thousands of its members nearly a full wage while on layoff. The UAW will also allow the companies to defer making billions of dollars in contributions to a new health fund for its retirees, and the UAW viagra benefit.....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 7:59 AM ET #7

    ..... No need to beat a dead horse, the drum beat is coming from .. America's newspaper Washington Times and. . no bias,no bull CNN. the most trusted name in news...........
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    ..... No need to beat a dead horse, the drum beat is coming from .. America's newspaper Washington Times and. . no bias,no bull CNN. the most trusted name in news...........
     
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    You left out this part slim:

    Unlike many of the lawsuits regarding Mr. Obama's citizenship - which claim he was born on foreign soil - Mr. Donofrio's case concedes that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims. Mr. Donofrio contends, however, that Mr. Obama is not a "natural born citizen," as Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution requires.

    "Don´t be distracted by the birth certificate and Indonesia issues," Mr. Donofrio said in a statement on the Citizen Wells Web site. "They are irrelevant to Senator Obama´s ineligibility to be president.

    "Since Barack Obama´s father was a citizen of Kenya, and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama´s birth, then Senator Obama was a British citizen 'at birth,' just like the framers of the Constitution, and therefore, even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on U.S. soil, he still wouldn´t be eligible to be president."


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    Unlike many of the lawsuits regarding Mr. Obama's citizenship - which claim he was born on foreign soil - Mr. Donofrio's case concedes that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims. Mr. Donofrio contends, however, that Mr. Obama is not a "natural born citizen," as Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution requires.

    "Don´t be distracted by the birth certificate and Indonesia issues," Mr. Donofrio said in a statement on the Citizen Wells Web site. "They are irrelevant to Senator Obama´s ineligibility to be president.

    "Since Barack Obama´s father was a citizen of Kenya, and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama´s birth, then Senator Obama was a British citizen 'at birth,' just like the framers of the Constitution, and therefore, even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on U.S. soil, he still wouldn´t be eligible to be president."


     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 9:17 AM ET #9

    ruff

    no one wants to hear about technicalities or rules

    this is about hope and change. dont take that away from the sheeple
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    no one wants to hear about technicalities or rules

    this is about hope and change. dont take that away from the sheeple
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 9:37 AM ET #10

    Ruffcutter I posted the lead paragraphs and referenced the complete article.....nothing was left out...
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    Ruffcutter I posted the lead paragraphs and referenced the complete article.....nothing was left out...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 9:55 AM ET #11

    Even L.A.Times is reporting about  it....

    Supreme Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama presidency

     

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    Even L.A.Times is reporting about  it....

    Supreme Court today deliberates suit blocking Obama presidency

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 10:09 AM ET #12

    Obama criticizing Clarence Thomas' Constitutional knowledge

    coming back to bite him in the ass...funny how life works
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    Obama criticizing Clarence Thomas' Constitutional knowledge

    coming back to bite him in the ass...funny how life works
     
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    koaj since you have been basically wrong on everything you have
     
    posted in the last few months please give me another laugh this
     
    morning and tell us all  how this is coming back to bite him in the
     
    ass?
     
    do you for one second believe this is going anywhere? if you do
     
    then i have some very nice swampland for you to look at- i think
     
    you are just uneducated enough to buy it from what i keep
     
    reading from you over the past few months
     
     
    i know you believe obama and his team are huddled up right now
     
    worried to death that the conspiracy is about to unravel right
     
    before their eyes right?
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    koaj since you have been basically wrong on everything you have
     
    posted in the last few months please give me another laugh this
     
    morning and tell us all  how this is coming back to bite him in the
     
    ass?
     
    do you for one second believe this is going anywhere? if you do
     
    then i have some very nice swampland for you to look at- i think
     
    you are just uneducated enough to buy it from what i keep
     
    reading from you over the past few months
     
     
    i know you believe obama and his team are huddled up right now
     
    worried to death that the conspiracy is about to unravel right
     
    before their eyes right?
     
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    I personally hope this fails. Obama has so far shown himself to be more centrist than how he represented himself  during the primaries. His proposed cabinet so far is has some solid choices ( keeping Gates and tapped retired Marine General James L. Jones to be national security adviser ).
    Unfortunately Obama has also made some awful choices ( Eric Holder for Attorney General and Paul Volcker as Obama's top economic advisor )
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    I personally hope this fails. Obama has so far shown himself to be more centrist than how he represented himself  during the primaries. His proposed cabinet so far is has some solid choices ( keeping Gates and tapped retired Marine General James L. Jones to be national security adviser ).
    Unfortunately Obama has also made some awful choices ( Eric Holder for Attorney General and Paul Volcker as Obama's top economic advisor )
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 2:03 PM ET #15

    mta again with the swamp land
     
     
    Produce something to shut up the naysayers....
     
    do you for one second believe this is going anywhere?
     
    It appears to be headed somewhere or it wouldn't be making headlines and be in the courts as we speak......Let's see what further come out today..
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    mta again with the swamp land
     
     
    Produce something to shut up the naysayers....
     
    do you for one second believe this is going anywhere?
     
    It appears to be headed somewhere or it wouldn't be making headlines and be in the courts as we speak......Let's see what further come out today..
     
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    as per mta, does this mean that The Supreme Court is 'a bunch of loons' ?
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    as per mta, does this mean that The Supreme Court is 'a bunch of loons' ?
     
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    Why aren't the democrats concerned that he hasn't released his college records, his selective service records, his real birth certificate?

    College records are only for Bush haters?

    Where is the uproar?
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    Why aren't the democrats concerned that he hasn't released his college records, his selective service records, his real birth certificate?

    College records are only for Bush haters?

    Where is the uproar?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2008 - 4:19 PM ET #18

    seems like the same haterzzzz were screaming bloody murder for bush's texas national guard records to the point where mary mapes made some stuff up in 04 and cost dan rather his job
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    seems like the same haterzzzz were screaming bloody murder for bush's texas national guard records to the point where mary mapes made some stuff up in 04 and cost dan rather his job
     
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    "Since Barack Obama´s father was a citizen of Kenya, and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama´s birth, then Senator Obama was a British citizen 'at birth,' just like the framers of the Constitution, and therefore, even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on U.S. soil, he still wouldn´t be eligible to be president."

    Huh?  I wonder if George Washington, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson's parents were US citizens at the time of their child's births?  LOL

    Apparently Obama was right about Clarence Thomas.
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    "Since Barack Obama´s father was a citizen of Kenya, and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama´s birth, then Senator Obama was a British citizen 'at birth,' just like the framers of the Constitution, and therefore, even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on U.S. soil, he still wouldn´t be eligible to be president."

    Huh?  I wonder if George Washington, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson's parents were US citizens at the time of their child's births?  LOL

    Apparently Obama was right about Clarence Thomas.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstAgain:

    I personally hope this fails. Obama has so far shown himself to be more centrist than how he represented himself  during the primaries. His proposed cabinet so far is has some solid choices ( keeping Gates and tapped retired Marine General James L. Jones to be national security adviser ).
    Unfortunately Obama has also made some awful choices ( Eric Holder for Attorney General and Paul Volcker as Obama's top economic advisor )




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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstAgain:

    I personally hope this fails. Obama has so far shown himself to be more centrist than how he represented himself  during the primaries. His proposed cabinet so far is has some solid choices ( keeping Gates and tapped retired Marine General James L. Jones to be national security adviser ).
    Unfortunately Obama has also made some awful choices ( Eric Holder for Attorney General and Paul Volcker as Obama's top economic advisor )




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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulsy:

    Why aren't the democrats concerned that he hasn't released his college records, his selective service records, his real birth certificate?

    College records are only for Bush haters?

    Where is the uproar?

     

    Because it is obvious that only conservatives lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulsy:

    Why aren't the democrats concerned that he hasn't released his college records, his selective service records, his real birth certificate?

    College records are only for Bush haters?

    Where is the uproar?

     

    Because it is obvious that only conservatives lie

     
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    You know who's laughing today?
     
    Someone who is a graduate of Yale Law School and now a Professor of Law at Brandeis University.....Anita Hill.
     
    ...and, soon...within the next couple of years, the new President is going to be able to put at least 2 new justices on the Supreme Court that will deal with that fat old pervert Clarence Thomas.
     
    ..and, yes KOAJ, you worthless idiot.....it is funny how life works.
     
    I'm sure that there is a little town in Georgia that would be perfect for you and your family.....take the money that you have been stuffing in your mattress and get out of New Jersey....the Meadowlands swamp just might smell better than.........
     
    I'm out.
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    You know who's laughing today?
     
    Someone who is a graduate of Yale Law School and now a Professor of Law at Brandeis University.....Anita Hill.
     
    ...and, soon...within the next couple of years, the new President is going to be able to put at least 2 new justices on the Supreme Court that will deal with that fat old pervert Clarence Thomas.
     
    ..and, yes KOAJ, you worthless idiot.....it is funny how life works.
     
    I'm sure that there is a little town in Georgia that would be perfect for you and your family.....take the money that you have been stuffing in your mattress and get out of New Jersey....the Meadowlands swamp just might smell better than.........
     
    I'm out.
     
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    Where have all my favorite Neo-Cons gone?.....Perhaps to a Dick Cheney conference?
     
    It's late morning already.....Paulsy?  Slim?
     
    You must be done shooting squirrels in the yard for dinner.....come on in and let's talk about Obama's birth certificate.
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    Where have all my favorite Neo-Cons gone?.....Perhaps to a Dick Cheney conference?
     
    It's late morning already.....Paulsy?  Slim?
     
    You must be done shooting squirrels in the yard for dinner.....come on in and let's talk about Obama's birth certificate.
     
     
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