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    Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey ranks Biden #14!! ...Obama #7 ...GWBush #32 ...Trump ranks DEAD LAST!

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    fubah2
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2024 - 1:16 PM ET #151

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    an_policeTrump ranked 4th from worst
    in C-SPAN’s 2021 presidential rankings

     

    Low-life former President Trump is
    the fourth-lowest-ranking U.S. president,
    according to C-SPAN’s 2021 President Historians Survey.

    C-SPAN’s survey includes 142 historians, professors
    and other professional observers of the presidency.

    an_lightWe must keep in mind, that was early 2021 before it was known:

    - that trump would be convicted of FRAUD
    - that a jury would find him guilty of rape
    - that hundreds of trump's cult would be sentenced to prison following Trump's incitement of an insurrection
    - that Trump would persist with his "BIG LIE" for at least 3 more years despite no proof of election fraud other than that commited by him
    - that Trump would steal classified US government property and hide them at his home, then lie about it
    - that Trump would privately host an anti-semite and a white nationalist for Thanksgiving dinner
    - that Trump's "leadership" would flatten what should have been a HUGE REPUBLICAN ROUT of the Dems in the 2022 midterms
    - that Trump would call for his former Joint Chiefs General to be assasinated
    - that Trump would insist his former handpicked AG Bill Barr was a liar after he agreed there was no substantial evidence to support "THE BIG LIE"
    - that Trump would be indicted on 91 criminal charges in 4 jurisdictions
    - that Trump's arrest mugshot would appear in headlines around the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    an_policeTrump ranked 4th from worst
    in C-SPAN’s 2021 presidential rankings

     

    Low-life former President Trump is
    the fourth-lowest-ranking U.S. president,
    according to C-SPAN’s 2021 President Historians Survey.

    C-SPAN’s survey includes 142 historians, professors
    and other professional observers of the presidency.

    an_lightWe must keep in mind, that was early 2021 before it was known:

    - that trump would be convicted of FRAUD
    - that a jury would find him guilty of rape
    - that hundreds of trump's cult would be sentenced to prison following Trump's incitement of an insurrection
    - that Trump would persist with his "BIG LIE" for at least 3 more years despite no proof of election fraud other than that commited by him
    - that Trump would steal classified US government property and hide them at his home, then lie about it
    - that Trump would privately host an anti-semite and a white nationalist for Thanksgiving dinner
    - that Trump's "leadership" would flatten what should have been a HUGE REPUBLICAN ROUT of the Dems in the 2022 midterms
    - that Trump would call for his former Joint Chiefs General to be assasinated
    - that Trump would insist his former handpicked AG Bill Barr was a liar after he agreed there was no substantial evidence to support "THE BIG LIE"
    - that Trump would be indicted on 91 criminal charges in 4 jurisdictions
    - that Trump's arrest mugshot would appear in headlines around the world

     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2024 - 3:41 PM ET #152

    C-span survey require historians to grade every president on 10 qualities.  Public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, administrative skills, relations with congress, agenda, pursuit of equal justice for all and performance within context of times.  Out of 45 presidents, Trump is ranked in the 30s in public persuasion, economic management and agenda.  Around the 40s in everything else.  As expected, public persuasion is his best quality because his experience is in marketing.  His worst qualities are moral authority and administrative skill.

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    C-span survey require historians to grade every president on 10 qualities.  Public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, administrative skills, relations with congress, agenda, pursuit of equal justice for all and performance within context of times.  Out of 45 presidents, Trump is ranked in the 30s in public persuasion, economic management and agenda.  Around the 40s in everything else.  As expected, public persuasion is his best quality because his experience is in marketing.  His worst qualities are moral authority and administrative skill.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2024 - 10:28 PM ET #153

    Multiple FACT CHECKERS online, following every word of our ranked #14 BEST president of all time, are saying to this point at 10:26 pm ET - everything Biden has said so far is all true and accurate!!!

    an_clap

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    Multiple FACT CHECKERS online, following every word of our ranked #14 BEST president of all time, are saying to this point at 10:26 pm ET - everything Biden has said so far is all true and accurate!!!

    an_clap

     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2024 - 10:35 PM ET #154

    Neither Joe Biden or Donald Trump could be judged at this point of their Presidency. Biden policies are starting to show how horrible they are for the US. Trump legacy will be judged on his next term and how he chooses success over revenge. 

     

    242 days till we can Make America Great Again, again.

    Reply

    Neither Joe Biden or Donald Trump could be judged at this point of their Presidency. Biden policies are starting to show how horrible they are for the US. Trump legacy will be judged on his next term and how he chooses success over revenge. 

     

    242 days till we can Make America Great Again, again.

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2024 - 10:46 PM ET #155

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Multiple FACT CHECKERS online, following every word of our ranked #14 BEST president of all time, are saying to this point at 10:26 pm ET - everything Biden has said so far is all true and accurate!!!

    absolutely   !   

     

     

    an_cheers

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Multiple FACT CHECKERS online, following every word of our ranked #14 BEST president of all time, are saying to this point at 10:26 pm ET - everything Biden has said so far is all true and accurate!!!

    absolutely   !   

     

     

    an_cheers

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2024 - 11:16 PM ET #156

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Multiple FACT CHECKERS online, following every word of our ranked #14 BEST president of all time, are saying to this point at 10:26 pm ET - everything Biden has said so far is all true and accurate!!!

     

    carried right through the whole speech too  an_cheers

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Multiple FACT CHECKERS online, following every word of our ranked #14 BEST president of all time, are saying to this point at 10:26 pm ET - everything Biden has said so far is all true and accurate!!!

     

    carried right through the whole speech too  an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2024 - 11:16 PM ET #157

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Multiple FACT CHECKERS online, following every word of our ranked #14 BEST president of all time, are saying to this point at 10:26 pm ET - everything Biden has said so far is all true and accurate!!!

     

    carried right through the whole speech too  an_cheers

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Multiple FACT CHECKERS online, following every word of our ranked #14 BEST president of all time, are saying to this point at 10:26 pm ET - everything Biden has said so far is all true and accurate!!!

     

    carried right through the whole speech too  an_cheers

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2024 - 11:16 PM ET #158

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Multiple FACT CHECKERS online, following every word of our ranked #14 BEST president of all time, are saying to this point at 10:26 pm ET - everything Biden has said so far is all true and accurate!!!

     

    carried right through the whole speech too  an_cheers

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Multiple FACT CHECKERS online, following every word of our ranked #14 BEST president of all time, are saying to this point at 10:26 pm ET - everything Biden has said so far is all true and accurate!!!

     

    carried right through the whole speech too  an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 10:57 AM ET #159

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    C-span survey require historians to grade every president on 10 qualities.  Public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, administrative skills, relations with congress, agenda, pursuit of equal justice for all and performance within context of times.  Out of 45 presidents, Trump is ranked in the 30s in public persuasion, economic management and agenda.  Around the 40s in everything else.  As expected, public persuasion is his best quality because his experience is in marketing (grifting).  His worst qualities are moral authority and administrative skill.
       amazing the magas still rever the worst president in history

     

                  

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    C-span survey require historians to grade every president on 10 qualities.  Public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, administrative skills, relations with congress, agenda, pursuit of equal justice for all and performance within context of times.  Out of 45 presidents, Trump is ranked in the 30s in public persuasion, economic management and agenda.  Around the 40s in everything else.  As expected, public persuasion is his best quality because his experience is in marketing (grifting).  His worst qualities are moral authority and administrative skill.
       amazing the magas still rever the worst president in history

     

                  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 11:40 AM ET #160

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: C-span survey require historians to grade every president on 10 qualities.  Public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, administrative skills, relations with congress, agenda, pursuit of equal justice for all and performance within context of times.  Out of 45 presidents, Trump is ranked in the 30s in public persuasion, economic management and agenda.  Around the 40s in everything else.  As expected, public persuasion is his best quality because his experience is in marketing (grifting).  His worst qualities are moral authority and administrative skill. 

     

     amazing the magas still rever the worst president in history

    TDS           Trump's Delusional Supporters

     

     

     

    TDS

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: C-span survey require historians to grade every president on 10 qualities.  Public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, administrative skills, relations with congress, agenda, pursuit of equal justice for all and performance within context of times.  Out of 45 presidents, Trump is ranked in the 30s in public persuasion, economic management and agenda.  Around the 40s in everything else.  As expected, public persuasion is his best quality because his experience is in marketing (grifting).  His worst qualities are moral authority and administrative skill. 

     

     amazing the magas still rever the worst president in history

    TDS           Trump's Delusional Supporters

     

     

     

    TDS

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 11:43 AM ET #161

    If there's a lower number then last trump should be that number. Like a number below the ground like 666 an_lightening

    Success is never final, failure is never fatal, and it's the courage that counts.
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    If there's a lower number then last trump should be that number. Like a number below the ground like 666 an_lightening

     
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    Neither Joe Biden or Donald Trump could be judged at this point of their Presidency. Biden policies are starting to show how horrible they are for the US and how they are destroying the economy, border, World peace, Biden Migrant crime and on and on. Trump legacy will be judged on his next term and how he chooses success over revenge. 

     

     

    242 days till we can Make America Great Again, again.

     

    Reply

    @Brooklyncapper

    Neither Joe Biden or Donald Trump could be judged at this point of their Presidency. Biden policies are starting to show how horrible they are for the US and how they are destroying the economy, border, World peace, Biden Migrant crime and on and on. Trump legacy will be judged on his next term and how he chooses success over revenge. 

     

     

    242 days till we can Make America Great Again, again.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 11:55 AM ET #163

    I'm not actually sure we can make America great again at this point....without some drastic changes and a whole political reform this seems far from happening....somewhere someone has to make a stand and realize that what is in place is broken...I mean it's really broken...generally, some might say, that the only way to ctl+alt+del the current government situation is to have a revolution...if the people in masses really want the change then this is really the only option because the corporate big wigs and financial backers of these politicians and policies will not allow for any change.....I believe the time will come when this happens and the people will step up and say they have had enough and they will demand the change...maybe not in my lifetime, but I think it's coming.....just as soon as we can get people to put down their phones....

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    I'm not actually sure we can make America great again at this point....without some drastic changes and a whole political reform this seems far from happening....somewhere someone has to make a stand and realize that what is in place is broken...I mean it's really broken...generally, some might say, that the only way to ctl+alt+del the current government situation is to have a revolution...if the people in masses really want the change then this is really the only option because the corporate big wigs and financial backers of these politicians and policies will not allow for any change.....I believe the time will come when this happens and the people will step up and say they have had enough and they will demand the change...maybe not in my lifetime, but I think it's coming.....just as soon as we can get people to put down their phones....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 11:58 AM ET #164

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:

    If there's a lower number then last trump should be that number. Like a number below the ground like 666

    @Brooklyncapper

     peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:

    If there's a lower number then last trump should be that number. Like a number below the ground like 666

    @Brooklyncapper

     peace_5

     

     

     
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     This I agree with peace_5  to much corruption division and bought and paid for politicians. You have democrats and progressives. Republicans then Maga far right  crazies. Overhaul is needed badly!

    Success is never final, failure is never fatal, and it's the courage that counts.
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    @ABooksNightmare

     This I agree with peace_5  to much corruption division and bought and paid for politicians. You have democrats and progressives. Republicans then Maga far right  crazies. Overhaul is needed badly!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 1:09 PM ET #166

    @witswits

     He will never choose success over revenge or any self serving need. He is still talking about the election from 4 years ago. He still talks about Obama. He could of changed himself In that time and focused on why he deserves to be president again and acted like a man but that's not him. He's a little sensitive weenie who can take criticism and thinks his way is better then experts.

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    @witswits

     He will never choose success over revenge or any self serving need. He is still talking about the election from 4 years ago. He still talks about Obama. He could of changed himself In that time and focused on why he deserves to be president again and acted like a man but that's not him. He's a little sensitive weenie who can take criticism and thinks his way is better then experts.

    I know more about war then the generals thejester

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 2:57 PM ET #167

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:

    @witswits  He will never choose success over revenge or any self serving need. He is still talking about the election from 4 years ago. He still talks about Obama. He could of changed himself In that time and focused on why he deserves to be president again and acted like a man but that's not him. He's a little sensitive weenie who can take criticism and thinks his way is better then experts. I know more about war then the generals

    @Brooklyncapper

     Yes, it now comes down to choosing between

    #14 ranked BEST US president in history...

                          OR

    the 45th and WORST ranked president in US history

    (a republican of course, and provide he is not in prison yet)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:

    @witswits  He will never choose success over revenge or any self serving need. He is still talking about the election from 4 years ago. He still talks about Obama. He could of changed himself In that time and focused on why he deserves to be president again and acted like a man but that's not him. He's a little sensitive weenie who can take criticism and thinks his way is better then experts. I know more about war then the generals

    @Brooklyncapper

     Yes, it now comes down to choosing between

    #14 ranked BEST US president in history...

                          OR

    the 45th and WORST ranked president in US history

    (a republican of course, and provide he is not in prison yet)

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 8:29 PM ET #168

    i like the way the 14 th ranked president recognized and respected today as International Womens Day

     

    an_clap

     

    i cant find anywhere  that chump did    

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    i like the way the 14 th ranked president recognized and respected today as International Womens Day

     

    an_clap

     

    i cant find anywhere  that chump did    

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 8:40 PM ET #169

    I found a few for you just off a quick google search...seems like there are many articles:

    https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/message-international-womens-day

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/08/politics/donald-trump-international-womens-day/index.html

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-committed-womens-economic-empowerment-around-world/

     

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    I found a few for you just off a quick google search...seems like there are many articles:

    https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/message-international-womens-day

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/08/politics/donald-trump-international-womens-day/index.html

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-committed-womens-economic-empowerment-around-world/

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 9:04 PM ET #170

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    i like the way the 14 th ranked president recognized and respected today as International Womens Day     i cant find anywhere  that chump did

    Happy International Womens Day 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    i like the way the 14 th ranked president recognized and respected today as International Womens Day     i cant find anywhere  that chump did

    Happy International Womens Day 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2024 - 9:13 PM ET #171

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: i like the way the 14 th ranked president recognized and respected today as International Womens Day     i cant find anywhere  that chump did Happy International Womens Day
      

    Yep, needs to be said

    Happy International Womens Day

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: i like the way the 14 th ranked president recognized and respected today as International Womens Day     i cant find anywhere  that chump did Happy International Womens Day
      

    Yep, needs to be said

    Happy International Womens Day

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 4:33 PM ET #172

    One of the reasons trump is ranked WORST president in US history:

     

    “Now, if I don’t get elected,
    it’s gonna be a bloodbath.
    That’s going to be the least of it.
    It’s going to be a bloodbath for
    the country,” Trump said,
    without clarifying what he meant.

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    One of the reasons trump is ranked WORST president in US history:

     

    “Now, if I don’t get elected,
    it’s gonna be a bloodbath.
    That’s going to be the least of it.
    It’s going to be a bloodbath for
    the country,” Trump said,
    without clarifying what he meant.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 4:58 PM ET #173

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    One of the reasons trump is ranked WORST president in US history:   “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country,” Trump said, without clarifying what he meant.

    trying to incite more violence ?? 

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    One of the reasons trump is ranked WORST president in US history:   “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country,” Trump said, without clarifying what he meant.

    trying to incite more violence ?? 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 5:02 PM ET #174

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    One of the reasons trump is ranked WORST president in US history:   “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country,” Trump said, without clarifying what he meant.

     

    I thought he was talking about the auto industry??  

    At least that is what those talking heads on the interwebs and television told me...... 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    One of the reasons trump is ranked WORST president in US history:   “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country,” Trump said, without clarifying what he meant.

     

    I thought he was talking about the auto industry??  

    At least that is what those talking heads on the interwebs and television told me...... 

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 5:06 PM ET #175

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: One of the reasons trump is ranked WORST president in US history:   “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country,” Trump said, without clarifying what he meant. trying to incite more violence ??

    @KellyM_1964

    Would it be any other way?!  an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: One of the reasons trump is ranked WORST president in US history:   “Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country,” Trump said, without clarifying what he meant. trying to incite more violence ??

    @KellyM_1964

    Would it be any other way?!  an_roll_laugh

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