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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2016 - 8:23 PM ET #751

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman67:

    Here is what I've gotten a hundred "WFT are you talking about?" responses on over the past year, but I'll throw it out here to so I can get slapped around......

    I don't think Trump had any real intention to become Pres..  I think he was fired up to run, get in the limelight for a while, get his point of view out there and a shiitload of "Yea Fn' A right ,, were behind you, your right on point,  you're the man",,, BS from a faction of the population.   Not thinking he would advance much past the elimination rounds,,  just pack it in, move on back to his world with a bit more attention going forward.  That's really what he lives for IMO.
    I believe deep down he's semi-shocked he's still stuck in this position.  The prospect of being bound and committed to this for 4+ yrs, is a  future he really and truly doesn't look forward to at all.  Yea, he puts on the overzealous patriotic front,, no harm there, but I'd bet you, if you got him on the old truth serum,,  it would be   "FuKK no I didn't intend on being Pres..   I wish to helll I would've bailed before my gdmn ego totally took over again".
    I guess what I'm getting at, is I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he intentionally (or maybe unconsciously) self destructs within the next month,  NOT THE LEAST BIT SURPISED!
    I truly truly cannot believe it has came to this,   one of the phonyest, most disgustinglyfake canidates ever,  or a sideshow freak like DT,   I swear,, I'm actually thinking of not voting,,  its just to depressing and hopeless, but in the end I reluctantly will.



    The GOP majority simply rejected conservatism and established conservative candidates with clear histories and records of conservatism and chose trump,  the biggest RIno ever. 

    5/4/16 The day conservatism died. 

    And instead they chose the candidate that best represented their values, world view and how they think and put together reality.  Who trump is and what he says is who resonated with the GOP majority and who they identified with. 

    I've heard two basic ideas about trump not intending to win. .  One is similar to your's in that he was doing it thinking he was not going to win as the GOP would not be that stupid but they proved the world wrong and trump cannot step down even though he is unqualified and lacks the Temperment to be president.   Trump may bail if he thinks he is going to lose because his ego cannot take losing but at the same time like you said his ego can't take dropping out either.  

    Based on his history, when he loses he and his followers will say it was rigged and unfair and he will starting suing. 

    The other theory I have heard is that The clintons knew that this would not be easy like how Obama completely dominated the vote so they enlisted to trump to create havoc and obliterate the GOP opposition (which he did handedly) and if he lost, to run as the third party Nadar spoiler.    

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman67:

    Here is what I've gotten a hundred "WFT are you talking about?" responses on over the past year, but I'll throw it out here to so I can get slapped around......

    I don't think Trump had any real intention to become Pres..  I think he was fired up to run, get in the limelight for a while, get his point of view out there and a shiitload of "Yea Fn' A right ,, were behind you, your right on point,  you're the man",,, BS from a faction of the population.   Not thinking he would advance much past the elimination rounds,,  just pack it in, move on back to his world with a bit more attention going forward.  That's really what he lives for IMO.
    I believe deep down he's semi-shocked he's still stuck in this position.  The prospect of being bound and committed to this for 4+ yrs, is a  future he really and truly doesn't look forward to at all.  Yea, he puts on the overzealous patriotic front,, no harm there, but I'd bet you, if you got him on the old truth serum,,  it would be   "FuKK no I didn't intend on being Pres..   I wish to helll I would've bailed before my gdmn ego totally took over again".
    I guess what I'm getting at, is I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he intentionally (or maybe unconsciously) self destructs within the next month,  NOT THE LEAST BIT SURPISED!
    I truly truly cannot believe it has came to this,   one of the phonyest, most disgustinglyfake canidates ever,  or a sideshow freak like DT,   I swear,, I'm actually thinking of not voting,,  its just to depressing and hopeless, but in the end I reluctantly will.



    The GOP majority simply rejected conservatism and established conservative candidates with clear histories and records of conservatism and chose trump,  the biggest RIno ever. 

    5/4/16 The day conservatism died. 

    And instead they chose the candidate that best represented their values, world view and how they think and put together reality.  Who trump is and what he says is who resonated with the GOP majority and who they identified with. 

    I've heard two basic ideas about trump not intending to win. .  One is similar to your's in that he was doing it thinking he was not going to win as the GOP would not be that stupid but they proved the world wrong and trump cannot step down even though he is unqualified and lacks the Temperment to be president.   Trump may bail if he thinks he is going to lose because his ego cannot take losing but at the same time like you said his ego can't take dropping out either.  

    Based on his history, when he loses he and his followers will say it was rigged and unfair and he will starting suing. 

    The other theory I have heard is that The clintons knew that this would not be easy like how Obama completely dominated the vote so they enlisted to trump to create havoc and obliterate the GOP opposition (which he did handedly) and if he lost, to run as the third party Nadar spoiler.    

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2016 - 9:08 PM ET #752

     With the GOP imploding from within the Republicans should start looking beyond this Trump debacle and ask themselves "how did the GOP get in this mess and what can I do to make it Grand again?"
    Gotta go pee!
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     With the GOP imploding from within the Republicans should start looking beyond this Trump debacle and ask themselves "how did the GOP get in this mess and what can I do to make it Grand again?"
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2016 - 9:16 PM ET #753

    33 days before the election this comes out ;-)

    Please...trumps an idiot it's well known. When will our next president go under the microscope, so tired of talking about this tv personality, time to discuss real life...
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    33 days before the election this comes out ;-)

    Please...trumps an idiot it's well known. When will our next president go under the microscope, so tired of talking about this tv personality, time to discuss real life...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 9:51 AM ET #754

    Quote Originally Posted by idle_havoc:

     With the GOP imploding from within the Republicans should start looking beyond this Trump debacle and ask themselves "how did the GOP get in this mess and what can I do to make it Grand again?"


    after the last two losses, they were told they need to enact policies and nominate people who are more inclusive of minorities and women.  the result- they nominated trump.  so, i'm sure they'll figure out the problems and make the appropriate changes for next time. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by idle_havoc:

     With the GOP imploding from within the Republicans should start looking beyond this Trump debacle and ask themselves "how did the GOP get in this mess and what can I do to make it Grand again?"


    after the last two losses, they were told they need to enact policies and nominate people who are more inclusive of minorities and women.  the result- they nominated trump.  so, i'm sure they'll figure out the problems and make the appropriate changes for next time. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 11:25 AM ET #755

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    after the last two losses, they were told they need to enact policies and nominate people who are more inclusive of minorities and women.  the result- they nominated trump.  so, i'm sure they'll figure out the problems and make the appropriate changes for next time. 


    ain't that the truth. they won't change crap. they'll just convince themselves it was trump's fault and go on their merry way.

    need this crap to be over. got too much of my bankroll tied up in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    after the last two losses, they were told they need to enact policies and nominate people who are more inclusive of minorities and women.  the result- they nominated trump.  so, i'm sure they'll figure out the problems and make the appropriate changes for next time. 


    ain't that the truth. they won't change crap. they'll just convince themselves it was trump's fault and go on their merry way.

    need this crap to be over. got too much of my bankroll tied up in this.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 12:02 PM ET #756

    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:



    ain't that the truth. they won't change crap. they'll just convince themselves it was trump's fault and go on their merry way.

    need this crap to be over. got too much of my bankroll tied up in this.


    You can't "blame" the Rep party for Trump being the nominee.  They wanted Jeb as he had the most money by far going in.  Through out the process, fair number of life-time Rep party members opposed him, Kristol, Nat Review, Will, etc.  The party  knew Trump was one of the weaker opponent against HRC.  It was the Rep-register voters who voted for him.  Unless those voters changed their thinking, the Rep party can't do anything about their nominee. The Rep leaders and their base are of two minds now!

    Same here on the bankroll comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:



    ain't that the truth. they won't change crap. they'll just convince themselves it was trump's fault and go on their merry way.

    need this crap to be over. got too much of my bankroll tied up in this.


    You can't "blame" the Rep party for Trump being the nominee.  They wanted Jeb as he had the most money by far going in.  Through out the process, fair number of life-time Rep party members opposed him, Kristol, Nat Review, Will, etc.  The party  knew Trump was one of the weaker opponent against HRC.  It was the Rep-register voters who voted for him.  Unless those voters changed their thinking, the Rep party can't do anything about their nominee. The Rep leaders and their base are of two minds now!

    Same here on the bankroll comment.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 4:45 PM ET #757

    Some interesting line movement on Bovada  within the last few hours.

    HRC remains at -500
    DJT drops to +400 from +350

    OTHER- was comfortably resting at +3300 for a while and just plummeted to +750
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    Some interesting line movement on Bovada  within the last few hours.

    HRC remains at -500
    DJT drops to +400 from +350

    OTHER- was comfortably resting at +3300 for a while and just plummeted to +750
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 5:21 PM ET #758

    HRC -600 Sportsbook. Betting odds catching up to reality. Surprised it took so long.
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    HRC -600 Sportsbook. Betting odds catching up to reality. Surprised it took so long.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 7:03 PM ET #759

    Wow......another line shift at Bovada. Trump backers will be pleased:
    Keep in mind this is the second line shift today and the debate has not begun:

    HRC drops from -500 to -400
    DJT rises from +400 to +325
    OTHER remains at +750

    It will be interesting to see what happens to line after debate. Bovada will probably remove the event from their board and re-post tomorrow........that is what they did for the last debate.

    Regardless, this should bring a smile to Trump backers.
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    Wow......another line shift at Bovada. Trump backers will be pleased:
    Keep in mind this is the second line shift today and the debate has not begun:

    HRC drops from -500 to -400
    DJT rises from +400 to +325
    OTHER remains at +750

    It will be interesting to see what happens to line after debate. Bovada will probably remove the event from their board and re-post tomorrow........that is what they did for the last debate.

    Regardless, this should bring a smile to Trump backers.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 7:39 PM ET #760

    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:

    Wow......another line shift at Bovada. Trump backers will be pleased:
    Keep in mind this is the second line shift today and the debate has not begun:

    HRC drops from -500 to -400
    DJT rises from +400 to +325
    OTHER remains at +750

    It will be interesting to see what happens to line after debate. Bovada will probably remove the event from their board and re-post tomorrow........that is what they did for the last debate.

    Regardless, this should bring a smile to Trump backers.


    some trump lover betting with his small head and not his bigly one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:

    Wow......another line shift at Bovada. Trump backers will be pleased:
    Keep in mind this is the second line shift today and the debate has not begun:

    HRC drops from -500 to -400
    DJT rises from +400 to +325
    OTHER remains at +750

    It will be interesting to see what happens to line after debate. Bovada will probably remove the event from their board and re-post tomorrow........that is what they did for the last debate.

    Regardless, this should bring a smile to Trump backers.


    some trump lover betting with his small head and not his bigly one.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 7:57 PM ET #761

    if that line move if some reaction to this nonsense about trump being replaced, that isn't happening for a few reasons.  don't waste your money if you think this is possible. 
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    if that line move if some reaction to this nonsense about trump being replaced, that isn't happening for a few reasons.  don't waste your money if you think this is possible. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 8:02 PM ET #762

    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:



    some trump lover betting with his small head and not his bigly one.


    I really like use of the word bigly...Donald Trump uses it quite often..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:



    some trump lover betting with his small head and not his bigly one.


    I really like use of the word bigly...Donald Trump uses it quite often..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 9:12 PM ET #763

    Trump should have skipped this....   not showing up would have been less damaging than him rambling about nothing and not answering questions.
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    Trump should have skipped this....   not showing up would have been less damaging than him rambling about nothing and not answering questions.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2016 - 1:25 AM ET #764

    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:



    some trump lover betting with his small head and not his bigly one.

    According some early polls, again Hillary beats Trump in the 2nd Debate.

    So, Hillary leads the series 2-0 out of three debates. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:



    some trump lover betting with his small head and not his bigly one.

    According some early polls, again Hillary beats Trump in the 2nd Debate.

    So, Hillary leads the series 2-0 out of three debates. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    According some early polls, again Hillary beats Trump in the 2nd Debate.

    So, Hillary leads the series 2-0 out of three debates. 


    he knocked her out you fool 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    According some early polls, again Hillary beats Trump in the 2nd Debate.

    So, Hillary leads the series 2-0 out of three debates. 


    he knocked her out you fool 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:



    he knocked her out you fool 

    People in denial like you is fool, instead.

    https://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13223134/second-presidential-debate-poll-trump-clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:



    he knocked her out you fool 

    People in denial like you is fool, instead.

    https://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13223134/second-presidential-debate-poll-trump-clinton

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2016 - 1:46 AM ET #767

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    I really like use of the word bigly...Donald Trump uses it quite often..


    irony is officially dead
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    I really like use of the word bigly...Donald Trump uses it quite often..


    irony is officially dead
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2016 - 1:55 AM ET #768

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    People in denial like you is fool, instead.

    https://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13223134/second-presidential-debate-poll-trump-clinton



    Vox is an American advocacy news website run by Vox Media, co-founded by liberal columnists Ezra Klein, Melissa Bell, and Matthew Yglesias and launched in April 2014. Key contributors include Dylan Matthews, Max Fisher and Sarah Kliff.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    People in denial like you is fool, instead.

    https://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13223134/second-presidential-debate-poll-trump-clinton



    Vox is an American advocacy news website run by Vox Media, co-founded by liberal columnists Ezra Klein, Melissa Bell, and Matthew Yglesias and launched in April 2014. Key contributors include Dylan Matthews, Max Fisher and Sarah Kliff.




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:



    Vox is an American advocacy news website run by Vox Media, co-founded by liberal columnists Ezra Klein, Melissa Bell, and Matthew Yglesias and launched in April 2014. Key contributors include Dylan Matthews, Max Fisher and Sarah Kliff.





    Yeah, Trump won the 2nd debate in a landslide. Get real, dude. More polls are coming up in a few days for Trump in a landslide.

      
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:



    Vox is an American advocacy news website run by Vox Media, co-founded by liberal columnists Ezra Klein, Melissa Bell, and Matthew Yglesias and launched in April 2014. Key contributors include Dylan Matthews, Max Fisher and Sarah Kliff.





    Yeah, Trump won the 2nd debate in a landslide. Get real, dude. More polls are coming up in a few days for Trump in a landslide.

      
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2016 - 2:11 AM ET #770

    polls 


    u think they ask the hicks in the sticks in the millions who will go out to vote for the first time in their life ? 


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    polls 


    u think they ask the hicks in the sticks in the millions who will go out to vote for the first time in their life ? 


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2016 - 2:14 AM ET #771

    It's always funny how the rantings of the emotional low information trump supporter always gets foiled by... well... information... lol

    That and facts, reality, numbers and statistics... like polls 
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    It's always funny how the rantings of the emotional low information trump supporter always gets foiled by... well... information... lol

    That and facts, reality, numbers and statistics... like polls 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    It's always funny how the rantings of the emotional low information trump supporter always gets foiled by... well... information... lol

    That and facts, reality, numbers and statistics... like polls 

    Guy in denial believes in Trump won the 2nd debate in a landslide. Wasn't a surprise. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    It's always funny how the rantings of the emotional low information trump supporter always gets foiled by... well... information... lol

    That and facts, reality, numbers and statistics... like polls 

    Guy in denial believes in Trump won the 2nd debate in a landslide. Wasn't a surprise. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2016 - 4:42 AM ET #773

    -500 now
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    -500 now
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2016 - 10:09 AM ET #774

    To win POTUS, Hillary has 85% as of now. 
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    To win POTUS, Hillary has 85% as of now. 
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2016 - 2:46 PM ET #775

    As of yesterday, the Princeton Election Consortium has Clinton with a 95% win probability (and a 97% Bayesian probability). Predictwise is at 88%.

    Need this mess to be over. Have too much of my bankroll tied up.
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    As of yesterday, the Princeton Election Consortium has Clinton with a 95% win probability (and a 97% Bayesian probability). Predictwise is at 88%.

    Need this mess to be over. Have too much of my bankroll tied up.
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