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    Measles is back! Thank the anti-vaxxers

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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2025 - 5:46 AM ET #76

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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2025 - 9:09 AM ET #77

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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2025 - 11:40 AM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    @UNIMAN  "Kennedy versus food dyes" Food dyes are generally recognized as safe.  However dyes can be toxic in high doses.  But highly unlikely the average person can reach that level with normal consumption.  No one should follow medical advice from anti-science Kennedy.  Previously, he claims raw milk is safe to drink and has taken heroin for years.

    So Europe banning dyes is nonsense because now RFKjr wants to do the same. Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    @UNIMAN  "Kennedy versus food dyes" Food dyes are generally recognized as safe.  However dyes can be toxic in high doses.  But highly unlikely the average person can reach that level with normal consumption.  No one should follow medical advice from anti-science Kennedy.  Previously, he claims raw milk is safe to drink and has taken heroin for years.

    So Europe banning dyes is nonsense because now RFKjr wants to do the same. Got it.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2025 - 11:55 AM ET #79

    Let's see, Mexico has had 5,231 measle cases this year. That's 1 case per 25,301 residents.

    And Canada, 4,843 cases and that is 1 case per every 8,600 residents

     

    And the United States, 1,753 cases, 1 case per 198,498 residents.

     

    So in Canada you are 23 times more likely to contract measles than in the US. In Mexico you are 7.8 times more likely to contract measles this year.

    OMG, see what RFKjr and Trump did!!!! an_getawayan_getaway

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    Let's see, Mexico has had 5,231 measle cases this year. That's 1 case per 25,301 residents.

    And Canada, 4,843 cases and that is 1 case per every 8,600 residents

     

    And the United States, 1,753 cases, 1 case per 198,498 residents.

     

    So in Canada you are 23 times more likely to contract measles than in the US. In Mexico you are 7.8 times more likely to contract measles this year.

    OMG, see what RFKjr and Trump did!!!! an_getawayan_getaway

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2025 - 12:44 PM ET #80

    If a child isn't vaccinated against measles they will get it with almost 100% certainty - and if they are exposed to it just the slightest - they will get it - you can not enter a building for HOURS (in some cases even days) after someone with measles has left the building without getting infected  - so you can basically only use stats like that to conclude that they haven't vaccinated enough people or had gained herd immunity before an outbreak happened - It is one of the most contagious diseases known to mankind.

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    If a child isn't vaccinated against measles they will get it with almost 100% certainty - and if they are exposed to it just the slightest - they will get it - you can not enter a building for HOURS (in some cases even days) after someone with measles has left the building without getting infected  - so you can basically only use stats like that to conclude that they haven't vaccinated enough people or had gained herd immunity before an outbreak happened - It is one of the most contagious diseases known to mankind.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2025 - 3:25 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    If a child isn't vaccinated against measles they will get it with almost 100% certainty - and if they are exposed to it just the slightest - they will get it - you can not enter a building for HOURS (in some cases even days) after someone with measles has left the building without getting infected  - so you can basically only use stats like that to conclude that they haven't vaccinated enough people or had gained herd immunity before an outbreak happened - It is one of the most contagious diseases known to mankind.

    What are those "some cases"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    If a child isn't vaccinated against measles they will get it with almost 100% certainty - and if they are exposed to it just the slightest - they will get it - you can not enter a building for HOURS (in some cases even days) after someone with measles has left the building without getting infected  - so you can basically only use stats like that to conclude that they haven't vaccinated enough people or had gained herd immunity before an outbreak happened - It is one of the most contagious diseases known to mankind.

    What are those "some cases"?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2025 - 7:36 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

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    Public health agencies cannot protect Americans if political appointees override scientific findings, rewrite research to suit ideology or exclude experts.  Replacing science with propaganda risk increasing distrust, outbreaks of diseases and more deaths.  Every former surgeon general has called for firing of Kennedy.  So have dozens of medical associations.  Congress should remove him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

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    Public health agencies cannot protect Americans if political appointees override scientific findings, rewrite research to suit ideology or exclude experts.  Replacing science with propaganda risk increasing distrust, outbreaks of diseases and more deaths.  Every former surgeon general has called for firing of Kennedy.  So have dozens of medical associations.  Congress should remove him.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2025 - 9:40 PM ET #83

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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2025 - 10:12 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem: cdc-quietly-changes-vaccine-autism-stance- Public health agencies cannot protect Americans if political appointees override scientific findings, rewrite research to suit ideology or exclude experts.  Replacing science with propaganda risk increasing distrust, outbreaks of diseases and more deaths.  Every former surgeon general has called for firing of Kennedy.  So have dozens of medical associations.  Congress should remove him.

    Exactly and why magas cant grasp that clearly shows how uneducated that most of them are. All they are into is destroying and tearing everything down, even at the expense of their own family members. At some point magas riding RFK'S back is gonna back fire on them with their own health issues. Mark my words on that. People taking advice from a drug addict with only a half a brain. Am sure his Dad and Uncle are rolling over in their graves right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem: cdc-quietly-changes-vaccine-autism-stance- Public health agencies cannot protect Americans if political appointees override scientific findings, rewrite research to suit ideology or exclude experts.  Replacing science with propaganda risk increasing distrust, outbreaks of diseases and more deaths.  Every former surgeon general has called for firing of Kennedy.  So have dozens of medical associations.  Congress should remove him.

    Exactly and why magas cant grasp that clearly shows how uneducated that most of them are. All they are into is destroying and tearing everything down, even at the expense of their own family members. At some point magas riding RFK'S back is gonna back fire on them with their own health issues. Mark my words on that. People taking advice from a drug addict with only a half a brain. Am sure his Dad and Uncle are rolling over in their graves right now

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2025 - 7:27 AM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

      You lost me at Faucci

    Top doctors and scientists condemn republican smear campaign against US leading infectious disease expert.  History is likely to judge Fauci kindly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

      You lost me at Faucci

    Top doctors and scientists condemn republican smear campaign against US leading infectious disease expert.  History is likely to judge Fauci kindly.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2025 - 8:56 AM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    @UNIMAN  "Kennedy versus food dyes" Food dyes are generally recognized as safe.  However dyes can be toxic in high doses.  But highly unlikely the average person can reach that level with normal consumption.  No one should follow medical advice from anti-science Kennedy.  Previously, he claims raw milk is safe to drink and has taken heroin for years.

    Sciencenews.org, Oct, 2024; Last month, California governor Gavin Newsom signed the California School Food Safety Act into law, banning the state’s public schools from serving or selling foods containing six synthetic food dyes starting in 2028. 

    Despite limited evidence of a neurobehavioral connection, experts think some children are probably more susceptible than others. Many experts are adamant that California’s act ensures safety for the state’s public school students, and they hope the act could inspire other states to follow suit, forcing food manufacturers to reconfigure their recipes.

    How about, No one should follow medical advice from Gavin Newsom nor the "experts" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    @UNIMAN  "Kennedy versus food dyes" Food dyes are generally recognized as safe.  However dyes can be toxic in high doses.  But highly unlikely the average person can reach that level with normal consumption.  No one should follow medical advice from anti-science Kennedy.  Previously, he claims raw milk is safe to drink and has taken heroin for years.

    Sciencenews.org, Oct, 2024; Last month, California governor Gavin Newsom signed the California School Food Safety Act into law, banning the state’s public schools from serving or selling foods containing six synthetic food dyes starting in 2028. 

    Despite limited evidence of a neurobehavioral connection, experts think some children are probably more susceptible than others. Many experts are adamant that California’s act ensures safety for the state’s public school students, and they hope the act could inspire other states to follow suit, forcing food manufacturers to reconfigure their recipes.

    How about, No one should follow medical advice from Gavin Newsom nor the "experts" ?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2025 - 5:39 PM ET #87

    measles now at the highest level in 30 years. Let that sink in folks. I hope all the people getting medical advice from a conspiracy nut with a half eaten brain, are prepared for maybe some kids dying from the measles. All the modern advances we have and magas want to take us back to the stone agesan_brick

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    measles now at the highest level in 30 years. Let that sink in folks. I hope all the people getting medical advice from a conspiracy nut with a half eaten brain, are prepared for maybe some kids dying from the measles. All the modern advances we have and magas want to take us back to the stone agesan_brick

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2025 - 6:47 PM ET #88

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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2025 - 12:12 AM ET #89

    @uniman I don’t really know why I would use time arguing medical stuff with you guys - your PRESIDENT said in an interview he was told by a doctor he had “the best MRI scan they had seen” - you do realise MRI is a scan that looks for issues inside your body ? How can you have the best MRI scan ? Are you saying the doctor has never experienced an MRI scan that didn’t find any issues inside your body? And none of you thought to question his response ? - That is the intellectual wall I am hitting arguing with your “side” - sorry to be blunt

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    @uniman I don’t really know why I would use time arguing medical stuff with you guys - your PRESIDENT said in an interview he was told by a doctor he had “the best MRI scan they had seen” - you do realise MRI is a scan that looks for issues inside your body ? How can you have the best MRI scan ? Are you saying the doctor has never experienced an MRI scan that didn’t find any issues inside your body? And none of you thought to question his response ? - That is the intellectual wall I am hitting arguing with your “side” - sorry to be blunt

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2025 - 12:17 AM ET #90

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     Some concern????? Not what I'm reading.

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    @Raiders22

     Some concern????? Not what I'm reading.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2025 - 12:18 AM ET #91

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     I supposedly had covid twice. I'm an old baby boomer. Alive and well thank you. Just the flu.

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     I supposedly had covid twice. I'm an old baby boomer. Alive and well thank you. Just the flu.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2025 - 12:23 AM ET #92

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     You want to force every to get vaccinated for measles? Whatever happened to bodily autonomy or my body my choice? 

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     You want to force every to get vaccinated for measles? Whatever happened to bodily autonomy or my body my choice? 

     
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    And I just meant that the virus potentially can survive days without a host ! Most viruses die pretty fast if they are not inside a human or animal

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    And I just meant that the virus potentially can survive days without a host ! Most viruses die pretty fast if they are not inside a human or animal

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

    @thirdperson  I supposedly had covid twice. I'm an old baby boomer. Alive and well thank you. Just the flu.

    Measles is way more dangerous than Covid is - that would be equalivant of you asking why you should wear a lifesuit if you were to cross the Pacific Ocean - since you were fine without it in your hottub last night - If you get Measles as an old guy - then you die ! It wipes out your immune system - then it will be a fight of life and death every time you even get a cold 

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

    @thirdperson  I supposedly had covid twice. I'm an old baby boomer. Alive and well thank you. Just the flu.

    Measles is way more dangerous than Covid is - that would be equalivant of you asking why you should wear a lifesuit if you were to cross the Pacific Ocean - since you were fine without it in your hottub last night - If you get Measles as an old guy - then you die ! It wipes out your immune system - then it will be a fight of life and death every time you even get a cold 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2025 - 12:53 AM ET #95

    Over 90% of measles cases are among unvaccinated people.  Low vaccination rate below 95% has lead to global resurgence.  This is primarily due to vaccine hesitancy and disruptions to routine vaccinations.

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    Over 90% of measles cases are among unvaccinated people.  Low vaccination rate below 95% has lead to global resurgence.  This is primarily due to vaccine hesitancy and disruptions to routine vaccinations.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

    1753 cases 211 hospitalized  3 deaths Deaths by lightning stike 2025 = 20 https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-victims

    First of all measles are not cancer nor Covid - Measles (just like your president) prefer children ! But it is almost exclusively lethal when it hits elderly people - secondly measles is dangerous primarily because it often causes “immune amnesia” which would not rise its direct kill rates - but it heightens the probability you will die from any other sickness known to man - and it makes every illness potientially lethal to you even those that never could kill “normal” people

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:

    1753 cases 211 hospitalized  3 deaths Deaths by lightning stike 2025 = 20 https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-victims

    First of all measles are not cancer nor Covid - Measles (just like your president) prefer children ! But it is almost exclusively lethal when it hits elderly people - secondly measles is dangerous primarily because it often causes “immune amnesia” which would not rise its direct kill rates - but it heightens the probability you will die from any other sickness known to man - and it makes every illness potientially lethal to you even those that never could kill “normal” people

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

    @Raiders22  Some concern????? Not what I'm reading.

    Yes.  I quoted a couple of the places.  But you can do a quick search and see the results and the concerns that some of the researchers have.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

    @Raiders22  Some concern????? Not what I'm reading.

    Yes.  I quoted a couple of the places.  But you can do a quick search and see the results and the concerns that some of the researchers have.

    peace_5

     
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    @uniman I don’t really know why I would use time arguing medical stuff with you guys - your PRESIDENT said in an interview he was told by a doctor he had “the best MRI scan they had seen” - you do realise MRI is a scan that looks for issues inside your body ? How can you have the best MRI scan ? Are you saying the doctor has never experienced an MRI scan that didn’t find any issues inside your body? And none of you thought to question his response ? - That is the intellectual wall I am hitting arguing with your “side” - sorry to be blunt

    Every single thing that involves trump, he has never once not said the word "BEST" when referring to stuff about himself.  Best at everything, even thou we all know hes a walking talking ticking health bomb. Between all the mickey d's he eats everyday and all the adderall hes pumped up, just a matter of time before the old ticker just quits. Thats if he doesnt get full blown Alzheimers  or Parkinsons before the ticker quits. Same way joe bidens eyes showed it, trumps eyes show it also. Both have the same stare my Dad had. Once you have seen it a few times, it becomes easy to spot. 2 very horrible diseases

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    @uniman I don’t really know why I would use time arguing medical stuff with you guys - your PRESIDENT said in an interview he was told by a doctor he had “the best MRI scan they had seen” - you do realise MRI is a scan that looks for issues inside your body ? How can you have the best MRI scan ? Are you saying the doctor has never experienced an MRI scan that didn’t find any issues inside your body? And none of you thought to question his response ? - That is the intellectual wall I am hitting arguing with your “side” - sorry to be blunt

    Every single thing that involves trump, he has never once not said the word "BEST" when referring to stuff about himself.  Best at everything, even thou we all know hes a walking talking ticking health bomb. Between all the mickey d's he eats everyday and all the adderall hes pumped up, just a matter of time before the old ticker just quits. Thats if he doesnt get full blown Alzheimers  or Parkinsons before the ticker quits. Same way joe bidens eyes showed it, trumps eyes show it also. Both have the same stare my Dad had. Once you have seen it a few times, it becomes easy to spot. 2 very horrible diseases

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    @uniman I don’t really know why I would use time arguing medical stuff with you guys - your PRESIDENT said in an interview he was told by a doctor he had “the best MRI scan they had seen” - you do realise MRI is a scan that looks for issues inside your body ? How can you have the best MRI scan ? Are you saying the doctor has never experienced an MRI scan that didn’t find any issues inside your body? And none of you thought to question his response ? - That is the intellectual wall I am hitting arguing with your “side” - sorry to be blunt

    What I question is why are some people are so fixated on another person claiming to have a great MRI scan, of all things??? Pretty damn wierd.

    I mean, if I were 78 yrs old, had a full body MRI and the doctor says "great scan, we see nothing unusual", and then I go out and say "the best scan they had seen" don't think folks would give it a second thought. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    @uniman I don’t really know why I would use time arguing medical stuff with you guys - your PRESIDENT said in an interview he was told by a doctor he had “the best MRI scan they had seen” - you do realise MRI is a scan that looks for issues inside your body ? How can you have the best MRI scan ? Are you saying the doctor has never experienced an MRI scan that didn’t find any issues inside your body? And none of you thought to question his response ? - That is the intellectual wall I am hitting arguing with your “side” - sorry to be blunt

    What I question is why are some people are so fixated on another person claiming to have a great MRI scan, of all things??? Pretty damn wierd.

    I mean, if I were 78 yrs old, had a full body MRI and the doctor says "great scan, we see nothing unusual", and then I go out and say "the best scan they had seen" don't think folks would give it a second thought. 

    Ohhhh, but it's Trump!!!! Trrrruuuuummmmppppp. WOW! an_eek2

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: @uniman I don’t really know why I would use time arguing medical stuff with you guys - your PRESIDENT said in an interview he was told by a doctor he had “the best MRI scan they had seen” - you do realise MRI is a scan that looks for issues inside your body ? How can you have the best MRI scan ? Are you saying the doctor has never experienced an MRI scan that didn’t find any issues inside your body? And none of you thought to question his response ? - That is the intellectual wall I am hitting arguing with your “side” - sorry to be blunt What I question is why are some people are so fixated on another person claiming to have a great MRI scan, of all things??? Pretty damn wierd. I mean, if I were 78 yrs old, had a full body MRI and the doctor says "great scan, we see nothing unusual", and then I go out and say "the best scan they had seen" don't think folks would give it a second thought.  Ohhhh, but it's Trump!!!! Trrrruuuuummmmppppp. WOW!


    I would - because it makes no sense at all - I wouldn't have questioned it if he had said "the doctor said everything was fine and there was nothing there" - but when you say stuff that don't make logical sense - that usually means you are lying - and then I would start questioning why you would lie about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: @uniman I don’t really know why I would use time arguing medical stuff with you guys - your PRESIDENT said in an interview he was told by a doctor he had “the best MRI scan they had seen” - you do realise MRI is a scan that looks for issues inside your body ? How can you have the best MRI scan ? Are you saying the doctor has never experienced an MRI scan that didn’t find any issues inside your body? And none of you thought to question his response ? - That is the intellectual wall I am hitting arguing with your “side” - sorry to be blunt What I question is why are some people are so fixated on another person claiming to have a great MRI scan, of all things??? Pretty damn wierd. I mean, if I were 78 yrs old, had a full body MRI and the doctor says "great scan, we see nothing unusual", and then I go out and say "the best scan they had seen" don't think folks would give it a second thought.  Ohhhh, but it's Trump!!!! Trrrruuuuummmmppppp. WOW!


    I would - because it makes no sense at all - I wouldn't have questioned it if he had said "the doctor said everything was fine and there was nothing there" - but when you say stuff that don't make logical sense - that usually means you are lying - and then I would start questioning why you would lie about that

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