If you don't like their low wages,then don't work there. No one is making any of their employees stay there. It's fast food joint not fuckn Goldman Sachs.
If you don't like their low wages,then don't work there. No one is making any of their employees stay there. It's fast food joint not fuckn Goldman Sachs.
If you don't like their low wages,then don't work there. No one is making any of their employees stay there. It's fast food joint not fuckn Goldman Sachs.
Great thinking..exactly what they want you to do.
So since it is just good ole McDonalds, who cares? The employer really does not mean much, it is the principal and the larger picture of what they are doing and the harm they cause.
So if we keep looking the other way and ignore the issue then it wont exist?
Quote Originally Posted by waltertaylor24:
If you don't like their low wages,then don't work there. No one is making any of their employees stay there. It's fast food joint not fuckn Goldman Sachs.
Great thinking..exactly what they want you to do.
So since it is just good ole McDonalds, who cares? The employer really does not mean much, it is the principal and the larger picture of what they are doing and the harm they cause.
So if we keep looking the other way and ignore the issue then it wont exist?
I've never been a "look the other way" at things I think are unacceptable and this fits that descript.
I try to do all I can to stand up for positions I feel are important and in this case I do not patronage that place..I didnt before this but it solidifies my position more I guess.
I think that every job matters, Goldman or McDonalds or Home Depot or anything..in fact the comparison made above is embarrassing to be honest..it to me cheapens what those people do and the hard work they do for poor wages. I had a past long ago in this industry..long ago and the work is tough, thankless and underpaid.
I have no pity for McDonalds and their billions in cash, millions in profits and bonuses for execs..I think it is near criminal how they position their product at the lowest income group, they sell food that makes you sick and lessens your ability to think and move forward..its fattening, caloric food. They try to lure kids and their parents in with clever cute marketing to sell them their nutrition poor, fattening food..
Thats a start..
Quote Originally Posted by lordspoint:
What do you recommend wall?
I've never been a "look the other way" at things I think are unacceptable and this fits that descript.
I try to do all I can to stand up for positions I feel are important and in this case I do not patronage that place..I didnt before this but it solidifies my position more I guess.
I think that every job matters, Goldman or McDonalds or Home Depot or anything..in fact the comparison made above is embarrassing to be honest..it to me cheapens what those people do and the hard work they do for poor wages. I had a past long ago in this industry..long ago and the work is tough, thankless and underpaid.
I have no pity for McDonalds and their billions in cash, millions in profits and bonuses for execs..I think it is near criminal how they position their product at the lowest income group, they sell food that makes you sick and lessens your ability to think and move forward..its fattening, caloric food. They try to lure kids and their parents in with clever cute marketing to sell them their nutrition poor, fattening food..
we can girl about corporations and govt all we want, but at the end of the day, i'm not going to bring two children into this world if i make $8.25 an hour
Good thing abortion is still an option.
Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:
we can girl about corporations and govt all we want, but at the end of the day, i'm not going to bring two children into this world if i make $8.25 an hour
This is the equivalent of gangster extortion against the taxpaying citizens. Why should these Corporate Fukks and their shareholders be laughing all the way to the bank? And don't give me the lame argument that raising the minimum wage would hurt small businessmen. That's BS. The major corporations employ 2/3 of the minimum wage force in this country.
~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
This is the equivalent of gangster extortion against the taxpaying citizens. Why should these Corporate Fukks and their shareholders be laughing all the way to the bank? And don't give me the lame argument that raising the minimum wage would hurt small businessmen. That's BS. The major corporations employ 2/3 of the minimum wage force in this country.
This is the equivalent of gangster extortion against the taxpaying citizens. Why should these Corporate Fukks and their shareholders be laughing all the way to the bank? And don't give me the lame argument that raising the minimum wage would hurt small businessmen. That's BS. The major corporations employ 2/3 of the minimum wage force in this country.
If you like your Big Mac, you can keep your Big Mac..If you like your chicken McNuggets you can keep your chicken McNuggets ........
lf you feel your food server isn't making enough an hour ,..
Try leaving a BIGGER tip ...
Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:
This is the equivalent of gangster extortion against the taxpaying citizens. Why should these Corporate Fukks and their shareholders be laughing all the way to the bank? And don't give me the lame argument that raising the minimum wage would hurt small businessmen. That's BS. The major corporations employ 2/3 of the minimum wage force in this country.
If you like your Big Mac, you can keep your Big Mac..If you like your chicken McNuggets you can keep your chicken McNuggets ........
lf you feel your food server isn't making enough an hour ,..
On a few occasions Ive been at a large party...10+ of us...multiple checks
I ask the server to take off the 18% they usually put on the check because it is a large party and tell them they would do better leaving me to my own devices.
Many times they say they cant and we figure betwwen all of us the server cost themselves over $100 bucks
( last time we were 10 of us.....check a little more than $700....
18% instead of 30%....server lost close to $100 bucks )
Agreed
Im a minimum 25% guy
Usually higher
PRE TAX
On a few occasions Ive been at a large party...10+ of us...multiple checks
I ask the server to take off the 18% they usually put on the check because it is a large party and tell them they would do better leaving me to my own devices.
Many times they say they cant and we figure betwwen all of us the server cost themselves over $100 bucks
( last time we were 10 of us.....check a little more than $700....
18% instead of 30%....server lost close to $100 bucks )
McDonalds and the like is set up on a certain business model. That business model involves paying lower skilled workers to do mostly jobs that require lower skilled workers. The workers and the management SHOULD understand this rather well.
People that need to support a family of 2+ people should not set their sites on long term service at one of these outfits like McDonalds or the like unless they get into management.
Just because the economy has turned on it's ear and the proper high paying jobs have been scared overseas that doesn't mean that McDonalds and Walmart should change their entire business model.
Anytime you artificially set wages at certain rate per hour you run the risk of businesses paying for services or time that add no value to the business itself.
Where else in the business structure is money going out for zero value?
Is that concept so complex?
P.S.
GG. Yes I do insurance. Not health. Home and auto and commercial. I wish I got 25%. More like 7% is my share. And if my boss put a limit on salary then he'd be putting a cap on production and I don't think he's quite willing to do that.
Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:
Who is talking career???
McDonalds and the like is set up on a certain business model. That business model involves paying lower skilled workers to do mostly jobs that require lower skilled workers. The workers and the management SHOULD understand this rather well.
People that need to support a family of 2+ people should not set their sites on long term service at one of these outfits like McDonalds or the like unless they get into management.
Just because the economy has turned on it's ear and the proper high paying jobs have been scared overseas that doesn't mean that McDonalds and Walmart should change their entire business model.
Anytime you artificially set wages at certain rate per hour you run the risk of businesses paying for services or time that add no value to the business itself.
Where else in the business structure is money going out for zero value?
Is that concept so complex?
P.S.
GG. Yes I do insurance. Not health. Home and auto and commercial. I wish I got 25%. More like 7% is my share. And if my boss put a limit on salary then he'd be putting a cap on production and I don't think he's quite willing to do that.
No, I had to google it to find out what it is. I don't do any finance or anything related.
In my younger days, I was a Nationwide Insurance Agent. We were required to take that test. I studied my azz off and still only scored a passing grade of 72% (70% was passing).
You should be making a lot more than 7%.
Time for a sit down with your boss.
~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
No, I had to google it to find out what it is. I don't do any finance or anything related.
In my younger days, I was a Nationwide Insurance Agent. We were required to take that test. I studied my azz off and still only scored a passing grade of 72% (70% was passing).
So since it is just good ole McDonalds, who cares? The employer really does not mean much, it is the principal and the larger picture of what they are doing and the harm they cause.
So if we keep looking the other way and ignore the issue then it wont exist?
What harm are they doing?
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Great thinking..exactly what they want you to do.
So since it is just good ole McDonalds, who cares? The employer really does not mean much, it is the principal and the larger picture of what they are doing and the harm they cause.
So if we keep looking the other way and ignore the issue then it wont exist?
Hmmm What if I asked all of you to invest in my soon to be formed fast good biz where I guarantee hourly wages in excess of $15 and offer to pay 50% of health and dental premiums for all workers. My plan is to raise enough money from the start to open enough joints to rival mcd's and Burger King. We will charge more for our product but the number of people who want people to earn more should draw customers away from our competitors.
Who here is willing to invest?
Hmmm What if I asked all of you to invest in my soon to be formed fast good biz where I guarantee hourly wages in excess of $15 and offer to pay 50% of health and dental premiums for all workers. My plan is to raise enough money from the start to open enough joints to rival mcd's and Burger King. We will charge more for our product but the number of people who want people to earn more should draw customers away from our competitors.
Hmmm What if I asked all of you to invest in my soon to be formed fast good biz where I guarantee hourly wages in excess of $15 and offer to pay 50% of health and dental premiums for all workers. My plan is to raise enough money from the start to open enough joints to rival mcd's and Burger King. We will charge more for our product but the number of people who want people to earn more should draw customers away from our competitors.
Who here is willing to invest?
There are premium places which compete now..places like 5 Guys, Chipotle, Chick Fil A etc..
I also dont think people are as sensitive to the needs of others to think outside their own pocket. I dont necessarily blame them, I am cautious with what I spend..
For me I dont really dine out like that irregardless of the establishment, so my way of commenting is by not frequenting them and also giving my input when the opportunity arises.
Quote Originally Posted by lordspoint:
Hmmm What if I asked all of you to invest in my soon to be formed fast good biz where I guarantee hourly wages in excess of $15 and offer to pay 50% of health and dental premiums for all workers. My plan is to raise enough money from the start to open enough joints to rival mcd's and Burger King. We will charge more for our product but the number of people who want people to earn more should draw customers away from our competitors.
Who here is willing to invest?
There are premium places which compete now..places like 5 Guys, Chipotle, Chick Fil A etc..
I also dont think people are as sensitive to the needs of others to think outside their own pocket. I dont necessarily blame them, I am cautious with what I spend..
For me I dont really dine out like that irregardless of the establishment, so my way of commenting is by not frequenting them and also giving my input when the opportunity arises.