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    funny how it works

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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 11:53 AM ET #1

    Big business is up and has a ton of cash on hand.Wall street is way up, the 400 richest Americans are up 200 billion in wealth.The middle class is down about 4000 per year.Food stamps are going to another 13 million Americans this year.Inflation is going nuts ,gas prices are claiming again. The only thing growing is the amount of poor people in this country.On top of that the nuts in the middle east are running wild.What is good.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Big business is up and has a ton of cash on hand.Wall street is way up, the 400 richest Americans are up 200 billion in wealth.The middle class is down about 4000 per year.Food stamps are going to another 13 million Americans this year.Inflation is going nuts ,gas prices are claiming again. The only thing growing is the amount of poor people in this country.On top of that the nuts in the middle east are running wild.What is good.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 12:05 PM ET #2

    Bingo

    whats funny is the rich cant even see and realize that they are gonna end up destroying themselves and all the money they have now, wont mean a damn thing to anybody.

    But hey lets cut some more taxes to the rich, the middle class can pay for it.  Thats the right winger mantra

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    Bingo

    whats funny is the rich cant even see and realize that they are gonna end up destroying themselves and all the money they have now, wont mean a damn thing to anybody.

    But hey lets cut some more taxes to the rich, the middle class can pay for it.  Thats the right winger mantra

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 12:57 PM ET #3

    The world will always run that way and always will.Rich and power go together and you are drinking the kool-aid if you thinks its going to change. What is  your gripe with the rich if I may ask.
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    The world will always run that way and always will.Rich and power go together and you are drinking the kool-aid if you thinks its going to change. What is  your gripe with the rich if I may ask.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 4:12 PM ET #4

    Dont worry, I'm sure it will "trickle down" soon. 
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    Dont worry, I'm sure it will "trickle down" soon. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 4:37 PM ET #5

    Good one Travelhc

    Theres tons of people still waiting form Ronnie Reagans day

    One of Ronnies bigger scams, getting the public to believe giving the rich more money would result in it trickling back down to others total farce

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    Good one Travelhc

    Theres tons of people still waiting form Ronnie Reagans day

    One of Ronnies bigger scams, getting the public to believe giving the rich more money would result in it trickling back down to others total farce

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 4:45 PM ET #6

    I remember around 1980 Ronald Reagan said, at a news conference... That deregulation of banks and Wall St. would mean people/businesses made more money and that would trickle down to those with less money.. In effect, it was a pyramid scheme.

    Big businesses proved that their corruption knew no bounds, and in 2008, this country saw the effects of that policies.

    We must not only re-elect President Obama, but give him the support in the House and Senate that he needs to be successful in the next 4 years. If you are in the middle class  240,000 or less, Vote Democrat and we will continue digging out of the mess that he inherited..

     

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    I remember around 1980 Ronald Reagan said, at a news conference... That deregulation of banks and Wall St. would mean people/businesses made more money and that would trickle down to those with less money.. In effect, it was a pyramid scheme.

    Big businesses proved that their corruption knew no bounds, and in 2008, this country saw the effects of that policies.

    We must not only re-elect President Obama, but give him the support in the House and Senate that he needs to be successful in the next 4 years. If you are in the middle class  240,000 or less, Vote Democrat and we will continue digging out of the mess that he inherited..

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 5:02 PM ET #7

    great post Don

    The fatcats have crapped on this country long enough.  Its time for them to be stopped because the truth is they wont be happy no matter how many yahcts, mansions and planes they can buy.

    Obamas slogan should be

    2012 MOVING FORWARD FOR THE LITTLE GUY

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    great post Don

    The fatcats have crapped on this country long enough.  Its time for them to be stopped because the truth is they wont be happy no matter how many yahcts, mansions and planes they can buy.

    Obamas slogan should be

    2012 MOVING FORWARD FOR THE LITTLE GUY

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 5:24 PM ET #8

    Yeah,  
    Fire up the printing presses, while confiscating greater amounts of wealth from the citizenry. 

    That is a great plan for success. 



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    Yeah,  
    Fire up the printing presses, while confiscating greater amounts of wealth from the citizenry. 

    That is a great plan for success. 



     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 5:38 PM ET #9

    Yeah Rick am gonna lose sleep because some fatcat cant buy another plane

    Maybe you should come back down to earth and start being a part of the economic group category you fit in and stop sticking up for the fatcats.  That is unless you are a fatcat yourself.

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    Yeah Rick am gonna lose sleep because some fatcat cant buy another plane

    Maybe you should come back down to earth and start being a part of the economic group category you fit in and stop sticking up for the fatcats.  That is unless you are a fatcat yourself.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 6:00 PM ET #10

    There are 403 Billionaires in the United States. I am not worried about these people as much as much as you are. I think that 80% of these people became wealthy with the help of the govt (IE Warren Buffet) anyway, if we decided that we were going to hold closer to traditional conservative economics, these people would not get rich off of taxpayers in the first place . 

    Why do we need to change our tax code to include the moderately wealthy within the confines of this us vs. them mentality. Why do we need to sew the hate of class warfare to attain a tax code that is more fair.

    I think that by obfuscating the tax code to a greater degree is stupid, and short sighted. It is the same thing that our government did with health care, instead of scrapping what didn't work and creating a better system they continue to add bandaid after bandaid to stop the most blatant issues while letting the overgrown bureaucratic nightmare gain size and inefficiencies. I think we need to scrap the entire 60,000 pages of the tax code and replace it with a pamphlet.  
    Flat tax 
    No deductions.  
    No Exemptions.  


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    There are 403 Billionaires in the United States. I am not worried about these people as much as much as you are. I think that 80% of these people became wealthy with the help of the govt (IE Warren Buffet) anyway, if we decided that we were going to hold closer to traditional conservative economics, these people would not get rich off of taxpayers in the first place . 

    Why do we need to change our tax code to include the moderately wealthy within the confines of this us vs. them mentality. Why do we need to sew the hate of class warfare to attain a tax code that is more fair.

    I think that by obfuscating the tax code to a greater degree is stupid, and short sighted. It is the same thing that our government did with health care, instead of scrapping what didn't work and creating a better system they continue to add bandaid after bandaid to stop the most blatant issues while letting the overgrown bureaucratic nightmare gain size and inefficiencies. I think we need to scrap the entire 60,000 pages of the tax code and replace it with a pamphlet.  
    Flat tax 
    No deductions.  
    No Exemptions.  


     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 6:06 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Yeah Rick am gonna lose sleep because some fatcat cant buy another plane

    Maybe you should come back down to earth and start being a part of the economic group category you fit in and stop sticking up for the fatcats.  That is unless you are a fatcat yourself.


    And as for the second part, about acting my class.  
    I would much rather  provide for my family with my labor, my sweat and my long hours, then beg for the scraps of the wealthy.  I will make my own money, and not feel entitled to anyone else's.  




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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Yeah Rick am gonna lose sleep because some fatcat cant buy another plane

    Maybe you should come back down to earth and start being a part of the economic group category you fit in and stop sticking up for the fatcats.  That is unless you are a fatcat yourself.


    And as for the second part, about acting my class.  
    I would much rather  provide for my family with my labor, my sweat and my long hours, then beg for the scraps of the wealthy.  I will make my own money, and not feel entitled to anyone else's.  




     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 7:09 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:


    And as for the second part, about acting my class.  
    I would much rather  provide for my family with my labor, my sweat and my long hours, then beg for the scraps of the wealthy.  I will make my own money, and not feel entitled to anyone else's.  






    bravo....some would rather leech or think they were fucking born special
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:


    And as for the second part, about acting my class.  
    I would much rather  provide for my family with my labor, my sweat and my long hours, then beg for the scraps of the wealthy.  I will make my own money, and not feel entitled to anyone else's.  






    bravo....some would rather leech or think they were fucking born special
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 7:11 PM ET #13

    Finally something i can agree with you on. Get rid of the whole tax code, but that will never happen because the current tax code helps the rich and the rich buy the politicians, so the little guy will always remain getting screwed.

    Its nice to dream thou rick

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    Finally something i can agree with you on. Get rid of the whole tax code, but that will never happen because the current tax code helps the rich and the rich buy the politicians, so the little guy will always remain getting screwed.

    Its nice to dream thou rick

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 7:14 PM ET #14

    cd

    do you hate any and all people who are "wealthy"

    and fatcats buying another plane?

    lets say that there a rich person...lets say Obama

    he buys another plane......how many jobs were created directly and indirectly by having that plane built.

    Not all probably in the USA but how many jobs do you think?

    Now, lets say the feds take Obamas money and redistribute it.....how many jobs is that going to create?

     

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    cd

    do you hate any and all people who are "wealthy"

    and fatcats buying another plane?

    lets say that there a rich person...lets say Obama

    he buys another plane......how many jobs were created directly and indirectly by having that plane built.

    Not all probably in the USA but how many jobs do you think?

    Now, lets say the feds take Obamas money and redistribute it.....how many jobs is that going to create?

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 7:16 PM ET #15

    YES, the tax code!!!

    BINGO

    If we could get real candidates who buck the system then we have a shot cd.

    and remember we agree on the tax code and people paying taxes.....now, what should the new code be?

     

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    YES, the tax code!!!

    BINGO

    If we could get real candidates who buck the system then we have a shot cd.

    and remember we agree on the tax code and people paying taxes.....now, what should the new code be?

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 7:21 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Good one Travelhc

    Theres tons of people still waiting form Ronnie Reagans day

    One of Ronnies bigger scams, getting the public to believe giving the rich more money would result in it trickling back down to others total farce

    What is your gripe with the rich,i will ask 1 one time.The message of this post was this has continue under your boy obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Good one Travelhc

    Theres tons of people still waiting form Ronnie Reagans day

    One of Ronnies bigger scams, getting the public to believe giving the rich more money would result in it trickling back down to others total farce

    What is your gripe with the rich,i will ask 1 one time.The message of this post was this has continue under your boy obama.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 7:30 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by cts99:

    What is your gripe with the rich,i will ask 1 one time.The message of this post was this has continue under your boy obama.

     I'm actually curious too cd. Why do you hate them? 
    I want to be a rich person; I'm not, yet hopefully, but I don't hate them because they are rich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cts99:

    What is your gripe with the rich,i will ask 1 one time.The message of this post was this has continue under your boy obama.

     I'm actually curious too cd. Why do you hate them? 
    I want to be a rich person; I'm not, yet hopefully, but I don't hate them because they are rich.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2012 - 7:34 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Finally something i can agree with you on. Get rid of the whole tax code, but that will never happen because the current tax code helps the rich and the rich buy the politicians, so the little guy will always remain getting screwed.

    Its nice to dream thou rick


    So you would rather rely on the possibilities that taxing the rich guys directly will work?  

    I think that is a little bit of a fantasy. 

    When guys like Warren Buffet beg for taxes it is kind of telling.  You can see who directly benefits from them. 

    Guys that make their living on other people's taxes (as the Steve Miller song states).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Finally something i can agree with you on. Get rid of the whole tax code, but that will never happen because the current tax code helps the rich and the rich buy the politicians, so the little guy will always remain getting screwed.

    Its nice to dream thou rick


    So you would rather rely on the possibilities that taxing the rich guys directly will work?  

    I think that is a little bit of a fantasy. 

    When guys like Warren Buffet beg for taxes it is kind of telling.  You can see who directly benefits from them. 

    Guys that make their living on other people's taxes (as the Steve Miller song states).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Bingo

    whats funny is the rich cant even see and realize that they are gonna end up destroying themselves and all the money they have now, wont mean a damn thing to anybody.

    But hey lets cut some more taxes to the rich, the middle class can pay for it.  Thats the right winger mantra

    Cd,   You seem to blame republicans for cutting taxes for the rich.   What abt the great bill Clinton cutting the capital gains tax?   The greatest democrat of our time implemented one of he biggest tax cuts for he wealthy of all time.   During the Internet mkt boom don't you think that tax cut helped a lot of rich folks more than the avg joe.   Why doesn't any lib who bitches abt tax cuts for the wealthy ever call out Clinton.  Bunch of hypocrites.
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    Bingo

    whats funny is the rich cant even see and realize that they are gonna end up destroying themselves and all the money they have now, wont mean a damn thing to anybody.

    But hey lets cut some more taxes to the rich, the middle class can pay for it.  Thats the right winger mantra

    Cd,   You seem to blame republicans for cutting taxes for the rich.   What abt the great bill Clinton cutting the capital gains tax?   The greatest democrat of our time implemented one of he biggest tax cuts for he wealthy of all time.   During the Internet mkt boom don't you think that tax cut helped a lot of rich folks more than the avg joe.   Why doesn't any lib who bitches abt tax cuts for the wealthy ever call out Clinton.  Bunch of hypocrites.
     
     
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    sad that so many fools dont understand their spoon fed rhetoric let alone back it up with any rational thought process
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    sad that so many fools dont understand their spoon fed rhetoric let alone back it up with any rational thought process
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