Both sides dislike trump cause he is not a career politician. People can't stand his personality. Combine not a politician, with his personality add his success equals the constant focus on him. Btw msm has been wrong on almost everything.
FACT: stocks/economy do BETTER when DEMS in WH!
This is what happens when you shut an economy down. This is not Trumps fault. and Kelly, Trump didn't create the virus you moron. It came from China and most likely came from a Lab because Trump cracked the whip on doing business with China. You know what happens when you buy shit from China? It breaks and doesn't last so you gotta buy more shit from China.
- Nearly 67 million lost work between Mar. 21 and Oct. 7, 2020. [S. Department of Labor]
- 20 million were collecting unemployment on Nov. 14, 2020. [S. Department of Labor]
- 98,000 businesses have permanently closed. [Yelp/CNBC]
- 12 million workers have lost employer-sponsored health insurance during the pandemic as of August 26, 2020. [Economic Policy Institute]
- Nearly 26 million adults reported their household not having enough food in the past week between Nov. 11-23. From Oct. 28 to Nov. 7, between 7 and 11 million children lived in a household where kids did not eat enough because the household could not afford it. [Center on Budget & Policy Priorities (CBPP)]
- 4 million adults—1 in 6 renters—reported in November being behind in their rent. [CBPP]
This is what happens when you shut an economy down. This is not Trumps fault. and Kelly, Trump didn't create the virus you moron. It came from China and most likely came from a Lab because Trump cracked the whip on doing business with China. You know what happens when you buy shit from China? It breaks and doesn't last so you gotta buy more shit from China.
- Nearly 67 million lost work between Mar. 21 and Oct. 7, 2020. [S. Department of Labor]
- 20 million were collecting unemployment on Nov. 14, 2020. [S. Department of Labor]
- 98,000 businesses have permanently closed. [Yelp/CNBC]
- 12 million workers have lost employer-sponsored health insurance during the pandemic as of August 26, 2020. [Economic Policy Institute]
- Nearly 26 million adults reported their household not having enough food in the past week between Nov. 11-23. From Oct. 28 to Nov. 7, between 7 and 11 million children lived in a household where kids did not eat enough because the household could not afford it. [Center on Budget & Policy Priorities (CBPP)]
- 4 million adults—1 in 6 renters—reported in November being behind in their rent. [CBPP]
Left can't handle the truth... that's why deflect and blame everyone...everything else but not themselves.... they are losing control and will whatever it has to in order to keep in control
Left can't handle the truth... that's why deflect and blame everyone...everything else but not themselves.... they are losing control and will whatever it has to in order to keep in control
When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
GH Bush (R) 5.6 rose to 7.0 got WORSE by -1.4 pts
Reagan (R) 7.7 down to 5.6 improved +2.1 pts
J.Carter (D) 7.7 n/c to 7.7 no significant change
G. Ford (R) 5.5 rose to 7.7 got WORSE by -2.2 pts
R. Nixon (R) 3.4 rose to 5.5 got WORSE by -2.1 pts
Johnson (D) 5.5 down to 3.4 improved by +1.1 pts *3.4 is lowest 1960-2021
Kennedy (D) 6.7 down to 5.5 improved by +1.2 pts
Source: https://historyinpieces.com/research/us-unemployment-rates-president
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True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. ![]()
I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
GH Bush (R) 5.6 rose to 7.0 got WORSE by -1.4 pts
Reagan (R) 7.7 down to 5.6 improved +2.1 pts
J.Carter (D) 7.7 n/c to 7.7 no significant change
G. Ford (R) 5.5 rose to 7.7 got WORSE by -2.2 pts
R. Nixon (R) 3.4 rose to 5.5 got WORSE by -2.1 pts
Johnson (D) 5.5 down to 3.4 improved by +1.1 pts *3.4 is lowest 1960-2021
Kennedy (D) 6.7 down to 5.5 improved by +1.2 pts
Source: https://historyinpieces.com/research/us-unemployment-rates-president
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True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. ![]()
I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
cut from cnn business :: Stocks continue their BIG rebound Dow climbs another 275 points at midday It's lunchtime ET and the stock market is still looking good today.All three major indexes are trading higher, boosted by energy and financial stocks. The Dow is up 0.8%, or 275 points, while the broader S&P 500 is 0.7% higher. The Nasdaq Composite climbed 0.6%.
cut from cnn business :: Stocks continue their BIG rebound Dow climbs another 275 points at midday It's lunchtime ET and the stock market is still looking good today.All three major indexes are trading higher, boosted by energy and financial stocks. The Dow is up 0.8%, or 275 points, while the broader S&P 500 is 0.7% higher. The Nasdaq Composite climbed 0.6%.
When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
yep 41 out of 44
siena college has him ranked last out of 44 from last september
they would like to rank him even lower now but how ?
When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
yep 41 out of 44
siena college has him ranked last out of 44 from last september
they would like to rank him even lower now but how ?
@fubah2 You keep comparing when Trump left office. Do you not understand that people WERE FORCED to go on UI?! They didn't voluntarily or by natural factors lose their jobs. Democrats pushed to shut businesses down. You know what that did? IT TRANSFERRED TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THE MIDDLE CLASS TO THE ULTRA WEALTHY! That's right, trillions left the pockets of the middle class and trillions found their way to the ultra wealthy. THAT IS WHY UI WAS SO HIGH WHEN TRUMP LEFT OFFICE.
@fubah2 You keep comparing when Trump left office. Do you not understand that people WERE FORCED to go on UI?! They didn't voluntarily or by natural factors lose their jobs. Democrats pushed to shut businesses down. You know what that did? IT TRANSFERRED TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THE MIDDLE CLASS TO THE ULTRA WEALTHY! That's right, trillions left the pockets of the middle class and trillions found their way to the ultra wealthy. THAT IS WHY UI WAS SO HIGH WHEN TRUMP LEFT OFFICE.
On March 22, 2018, Trump signed a memorandum under the Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974, instructing the United States Trade Representative (USTR) to apply tariffs of $50 billion on Chinese goods. Trump said the tariffs would be imposed due to Chinese theft of U.S intellectual property.
Clearly China had reason to not want to deal with Trump and the United States. In case you didn't know or happen to read the "Made in China" tags that are on almost all your products, the US buys a lot of shit from China. So in theory China spreads a virus throughout the world causing years and likely decades if not multiple decades of destruction so you people can try to blame Trump. You people are China's puppet and follow suit. How do you think China became a communist nation? They controlled the people with propaganda. People in China do not watch the news because they know it's propaganda. WHAT DO YOU THINK MAJORITY OF THE NEWS IN THE US IS? Why do you think that is? Control. Wake up. Stop reading MSM as fact. The truth is, your dem leaders (hell most leaders) do not care for you as much as they'll tell you they do.
On March 22, 2018, Trump signed a memorandum under the Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974, instructing the United States Trade Representative (USTR) to apply tariffs of $50 billion on Chinese goods. Trump said the tariffs would be imposed due to Chinese theft of U.S intellectual property.
Clearly China had reason to not want to deal with Trump and the United States. In case you didn't know or happen to read the "Made in China" tags that are on almost all your products, the US buys a lot of shit from China. So in theory China spreads a virus throughout the world causing years and likely decades if not multiple decades of destruction so you people can try to blame Trump. You people are China's puppet and follow suit. How do you think China became a communist nation? They controlled the people with propaganda. People in China do not watch the news because they know it's propaganda. WHAT DO YOU THINK MAJORITY OF THE NEWS IN THE US IS? Why do you think that is? Control. Wake up. Stop reading MSM as fact. The truth is, your dem leaders (hell most leaders) do not care for you as much as they'll tell you they do.
Big -you should know better to mention the pandemic when they help fit into his numbers looking good. Have you ever seen them mention pandemic when they spew their figures? They can't and won't because it will show how damaging Joe's decisions are. "UI FOREVER"- Right on morons
Big -you should know better to mention the pandemic when they help fit into his numbers looking good. Have you ever seen them mention pandemic when they spew their figures? They can't and won't because it will show how damaging Joe's decisions are. "UI FOREVER"- Right on morons
Trump's favorite athlete, Tom Brady mocked the 'Big Lie' and issued a few jokes at trump's expense to the man who beat him in the election
Trump's favorite athlete, Tom Brady mocked the 'Big Lie' and issued a few jokes at trump's expense to the man who beat him in the election
When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
GH Bush (R) 5.6 rose to 7.0 got WORSE by -1.4 pts
Reagan (R) 7.7 down to 5.6 improved +2.1 pts
J.Carter (D) 7.7 n/c to 7.7 no significant change
G. Ford (R) 5.5 rose to 7.7 got WORSE by -2.2 pts
R. Nixon (R) 3.4 rose to 5.5 got WORSE by -2.1 pts
Johnson (D) 5.5 down to 3.4 improved by +1.1 pts *3.4 is lowest 1960-2021
Kennedy (D) 6.7 down to 5.5 improved by +1.2 pts
Source: https://historyinpieces.com/research/us-unemployment-rates-president
True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. ![]()
I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
i would say that is ahuge reason why rump is ranked in the bottom 3 all time presidents
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When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
GH Bush (R) 5.6 rose to 7.0 got WORSE by -1.4 pts
Reagan (R) 7.7 down to 5.6 improved +2.1 pts
J.Carter (D) 7.7 n/c to 7.7 no significant change
G. Ford (R) 5.5 rose to 7.7 got WORSE by -2.2 pts
R. Nixon (R) 3.4 rose to 5.5 got WORSE by -2.1 pts
Johnson (D) 5.5 down to 3.4 improved by +1.1 pts *3.4 is lowest 1960-2021
Kennedy (D) 6.7 down to 5.5 improved by +1.2 pts
Source: https://historyinpieces.com/research/us-unemployment-rates-president
True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. ![]()
I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
i would say that is ahuge reason why rump is ranked in the bottom 3 all time presidents
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Big -you should know better to mention the pandemic when they help fit into his numbers looking good. Have you ever seen them mention pandemic when they spew their figures? They can't and won't because it will show how damaging Joe's decisions are. "UI FOREVER"- Right on morons
You can't have a logical discussion with this group of people. They are truly delusional. It's mind boggling their critical thinking skills are. They take polls as truth and meaning. Absolutely astonishing how misinformed these people are.
Big -you should know better to mention the pandemic when they help fit into his numbers looking good. Have you ever seen them mention pandemic when they spew their figures? They can't and won't because it will show how damaging Joe's decisions are. "UI FOREVER"- Right on morons
You can't have a logical discussion with this group of people. They are truly delusional. It's mind boggling their critical thinking skills are. They take polls as truth and meaning. Absolutely astonishing how misinformed these people are.
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Big -you should know better to mention the pandemic when they help fit into his numbers looking good. Have you ever seen them mention pandemic when they spew their figures? They can't and won't because it will show how damaging Joe's decisions are. "UI FOREVER"- Right on morons You can't have a logical discussion with this group of people. They are truly delusional. It's mind boggling how low their critical thinking skills are. They take polls as truth and meaning. Absolutely astonishing how misinformed these people are.
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Big -you should know better to mention the pandemic when they help fit into his numbers looking good. Have you ever seen them mention pandemic when they spew their figures? They can't and won't because it will show how damaging Joe's decisions are. "UI FOREVER"- Right on morons You can't have a logical discussion with this group of people. They are truly delusional. It's mind boggling how low their critical thinking skills are. They take polls as truth and meaning. Absolutely astonishing how misinformed these people are.
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Big -you should know better to mention the pandemic when they help fit into his numbers looking good. Have you ever seen them mention pandemic when they spew their figures? They can't and won't because it will show how damaging Joe's decisions are. "UI FOREVER"- Right on morons You can't have a logical discussion with this group of people. They are truly delusional. It's mind boggling their critical thinking skills are. They take polls as truth and meaning. Absolutely astonishing how misinformed these people are.
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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Big -you should know better to mention the pandemic when they help fit into his numbers looking good. Have you ever seen them mention pandemic when they spew their figures? They can't and won't because it will show how damaging Joe's decisions are. "UI FOREVER"- Right on morons You can't have a logical discussion with this group of people. They are truly delusional. It's mind boggling their critical thinking skills are. They take polls as truth and meaning. Absolutely astonishing how misinformed these people are.
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When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
yep 41 out of 44
siena college has him ranked last out of 44 from last september
they would like to rank him even lower now but how ?
Can't go any lower than the bottom. LOL ![]()
When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
yep 41 out of 44
siena college has him ranked last out of 44 from last september
they would like to rank him even lower now but how ?
Can't go any lower than the bottom. LOL ![]()
It is sad...almost feel sorry for these sheep. I guarantee you will hear ZERO from them about the FACTS you presented. I've touched on this in other threads....crickets.
https://inequality.org/great-divide/updates-billionaire-pandemic/ this is what happened when the gov't decided to shut down small business and make people go on UI. You libs love to complain about the wealthy but at the same time you admire businesses getting shut down. Do you see the irony in what you celebrate?!
It is sad...almost feel sorry for these sheep. I guarantee you will hear ZERO from them about the FACTS you presented. I've touched on this in other threads....crickets.
https://inequality.org/great-divide/updates-billionaire-pandemic/ this is what happened when the gov't decided to shut down small business and make people go on UI. You libs love to complain about the wealthy but at the same time you admire businesses getting shut down. Do you see the irony in what you celebrate?!
When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
yep 41 out of 44
siena college has him ranked last out of 44 from last september
they would like to rank him even lower now but how ?
Can't go any lower than the bottom. LOL ![]()
true
remember when reagan's unemployment exploded up to over 10.3% ??
that was the worst in the modern era ---- until rumps epic 14.7% in 2020
When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
yep 41 out of 44
siena college has him ranked last out of 44 from last september
they would like to rank him even lower now but how ?
Can't go any lower than the bottom. LOL ![]()
true
remember when reagan's unemployment exploded up to over 10.3% ??
that was the worst in the modern era ---- until rumps epic 14.7% in 2020
@kcblitzkrieg
@KellyM_1964 echo echo echo..... chamber chamber chamber....
I think Fubduh is Kelly. It's the only person that will communicate with him.
@kcblitzkrieg
@KellyM_1964 echo echo echo..... chamber chamber chamber....
I think Fubduh is Kelly. It's the only person that will communicate with him.
Trumps economy was stronger than when Obama was in office. Try again. Trump had far better numbers than Obama had and he only had 3 years to do it.
First 3 years of Trump economy continues trends from last 3 years of Obama economy. Average 2.5% annual growth in GDP. But Trump likes to take credit for other people's achievements. Historically, Obama is more likely to be remembered for competence. However Trump's legacy as one of the worst presidents in US history is disgraceful.
Trumps economy was stronger than when Obama was in office. Try again. Trump had far better numbers than Obama had and he only had 3 years to do it.
First 3 years of Trump economy continues trends from last 3 years of Obama economy. Average 2.5% annual growth in GDP. But Trump likes to take credit for other people's achievements. Historically, Obama is more likely to be remembered for competence. However Trump's legacy as one of the worst presidents in US history is disgraceful.
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Trumps economy was stronger than when Obama was in office. Try again. Trump had far better numbers than Obama had and he only had 3 years to do it. First 3 years of Trump economy continues trends from last 3 years of Obama economy. Average 2.5% annual growth in GDP. But Trump likes to take credit for other people's achievements. Historically, Obama is more likely to be remembered for competence. However Trump's legacy as one of the worst presidents in US history is disgraceful.
Depends on how you see the economy when Trump was in office. If you base Trumps presidency on what the media told you, then yea, everyone will think he's the worst. Media had an agenda because Trump didn't support the media. So obviously when you don't corporate with the media, they'll become your enemy. Obama had the economy moving and Trump kept pushing it as well. They both did a superb job at keeping the economy thriving. But the media had it out for Trump and there's no denying that. In today's society, if people hear the same time 100 times, they believe it because they are too lazy to do their own investigation so they take the word they hear. When all the hear is negative shit, well, that's how they think. You can not actually say the economy was terrible on Trump. I'm sure you life (outside politics and the media) was near the best it's ever been. All business was thriving and your paychecks were fat. That allowed you to enjoy life, did it not?
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Trumps economy was stronger than when Obama was in office. Try again. Trump had far better numbers than Obama had and he only had 3 years to do it. First 3 years of Trump economy continues trends from last 3 years of Obama economy. Average 2.5% annual growth in GDP. But Trump likes to take credit for other people's achievements. Historically, Obama is more likely to be remembered for competence. However Trump's legacy as one of the worst presidents in US history is disgraceful.
Depends on how you see the economy when Trump was in office. If you base Trumps presidency on what the media told you, then yea, everyone will think he's the worst. Media had an agenda because Trump didn't support the media. So obviously when you don't corporate with the media, they'll become your enemy. Obama had the economy moving and Trump kept pushing it as well. They both did a superb job at keeping the economy thriving. But the media had it out for Trump and there's no denying that. In today's society, if people hear the same time 100 times, they believe it because they are too lazy to do their own investigation so they take the word they hear. When all the hear is negative shit, well, that's how they think. You can not actually say the economy was terrible on Trump. I'm sure you life (outside politics and the media) was near the best it's ever been. All business was thriving and your paychecks were fat. That allowed you to enjoy life, did it not?
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Trumps economy was stronger than when Obama was in office. Try again. Trump had far better numbers than Obama had and he only had 3 years to do it. First 3 years of Trump economy continues trends from last 3 years of Obama economy. Average 2.5% annual growth in GDP. But Trump likes to take credit for other people's achievements. Historically, Obama is more likely to be remembered for competence. However Trump's legacy as one of the worst presidents in US history is disgraceful. Depends on how you see the economy when Trump was in office. If you base Trumps presidency on what the media told you, then yea, everyone will think he's the worst. Media had an agenda because Trump didn't support the media. So obviously when you don't corporate with the media, they'll become your enemy. Obama had the economy moving and Trump kept pushing it as well. They both did a superb job at keeping the economy thriving. But the media had it out for Trump and there's no denying that. In today's society, if people hear the same time 100 times, they believe it because they are too lazy to do their own investigation so they take the word they hear. When all the hear is negative shit, well, that's how they think. You can not actually say the economy was terrible on Trump. I'm sure you life (outside politics and the media) was near the best it's ever been. All business was thriving and your paychecks were fat. That allowed you to enjoy life, did it not?
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Trumps economy was stronger than when Obama was in office. Try again. Trump had far better numbers than Obama had and he only had 3 years to do it. First 3 years of Trump economy continues trends from last 3 years of Obama economy. Average 2.5% annual growth in GDP. But Trump likes to take credit for other people's achievements. Historically, Obama is more likely to be remembered for competence. However Trump's legacy as one of the worst presidents in US history is disgraceful. Depends on how you see the economy when Trump was in office. If you base Trumps presidency on what the media told you, then yea, everyone will think he's the worst. Media had an agenda because Trump didn't support the media. So obviously when you don't corporate with the media, they'll become your enemy. Obama had the economy moving and Trump kept pushing it as well. They both did a superb job at keeping the economy thriving. But the media had it out for Trump and there's no denying that. In today's society, if people hear the same time 100 times, they believe it because they are too lazy to do their own investigation so they take the word they hear. When all the hear is negative shit, well, that's how they think. You can not actually say the economy was terrible on Trump. I'm sure you life (outside politics and the media) was near the best it's ever been. All business was thriving and your paychecks were fat. That allowed you to enjoy life, did it not?
When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
yep 41 out of 44
siena college has him ranked last out of 44 from last september
they would like to rank him even lower now but how ?
Can't go any lower than the bottom. LOL ![]()
true
remember when reagan's unemployment exploded up to over 10.3% ??
that was the worst in the modern era ---- until rumps epic 14.7% in 2020
Yes, I remember it well. And Reagan's peaked at almost 10.8%
Nowhere near as bad as under trump though.
When OBAMA left his unemployment numbers were 4.7%.
Trump's were a HORRIBLE 6.3%
absolutely terrible 6.3% and even that the department of labor says is an underestimate of the true depth that rump and the rump-virus caused
Unemployment changes by President:
Joe Biden (D) 6.3% down to 5.9% so far in only 6 months! ![]()
trump (R) 4.7 rose to 6.3 got WORSE by -1.6 pts <---#42 ranked president
Obama (D) 7.8 down to 4.7 improved by +3.1 pts
<-- #10 ranked president!
GWBush (R) 4.0 rose to 7.8 got WORSE by -3.8 pts
Clinton (D) 7.0 down to 4.0 improved by +3.0 pts!
True, and no doubt contributed greatly to WHY the twice-impeached disgraced jerk was rated by C-Span's Bi-Partisan survey of 144 Presidential Historians as #41 out of 44 Presidents. I'll try and dig up that chart again ...
yep 41 out of 44
siena college has him ranked last out of 44 from last september
they would like to rank him even lower now but how ?
Can't go any lower than the bottom. LOL ![]()
true
remember when reagan's unemployment exploded up to over 10.3% ??
that was the worst in the modern era ---- until rumps epic 14.7% in 2020
Yes, I remember it well. And Reagan's peaked at almost 10.8%
Nowhere near as bad as under trump though.
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