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    FACT: stocks/economy do BETTER when DEMS in WH!

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    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2021 - 8:01 AM ET #476

    Democrats shut down the economy in 2020 and are now cheering year to date numbers. 

    At the same time they’re saying it’s unfair to compare Covid deaths in 2020 to Covid deaths in 2021. 

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    Democrats shut down the economy in 2020 and are now cheering year to date numbers. 

    At the same time they’re saying it’s unfair to compare Covid deaths in 2020 to Covid deaths in 2021. 

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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2021 - 9:52 AM ET #477

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Democrats... At the same time they’re saying it’s unfair to compare Covid deaths in 2020 to Covid deaths in 2021.

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why are there more American deaths in 2021 than 2020 even though 200,000,000 Americans are vaccinated?

     

    These reasons explain why, beginning with your illogical comparison:

    First, the country has been FULLY SATURATED with covid exposure (coast-to-coast, and 99% of all counties) for each month of 2021. That's 11.4 months. More infection means more deaths.
    On the last day of February, 2020, Trump declared we only had 15 infections. The country was not FULLY SATURATED with covid exposure until late June 2020.
    A fair comparison must compare the similar conditions: full saturation of covid exposure permeating every corner of the nation. So 11.4 months of full covid saturation across the country obviously means many more deaths than just 6 months of full covid saturation in 2020. Huge difference!  This accounts for most of it.

    Secondly, deaths from covid occured every month, but the U.S. did not have 200,000,000 vaccinated on January 1, 2021. Any implication that vaccines are worthless, as you are clearly trying to do quoting 200m vaccinated, only works if all were vaccinated on day one. Then you can compare the death counts. Otherwise you are making an illogical apples to oranges comparison.

    Third, we can vaccinate thousands against polio, but if they haven't got the vaccine engineered SPECIFICALLY FOR MEASLES then it is very likely they will get the measles infection. So it is with Delta.
    Nobody in America is vaccinated with a delta-variant vaccine! Delta became the dominant strain in April. Prior to then the vaccines were working very well against the original Wuhan strain. That all changed with Delta. That is another apples vs. oranges argument.
    Of course there will be more deaths from delta than wuhan because the vaccines are less than 60% efficacy against delta but 95% effective vs the 2020 wuhan strain that they were engineered to combat.

    Fourth, the delta variant (2021) is much more transmissible than the original Wuhan strain (2020) and therefore, more infections ultimately means more deaths. 2020 did not have to deal with Delta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Democrats... At the same time they’re saying it’s unfair to compare Covid deaths in 2020 to Covid deaths in 2021.

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why are there more American deaths in 2021 than 2020 even though 200,000,000 Americans are vaccinated?

     

    These reasons explain why, beginning with your illogical comparison:

    First, the country has been FULLY SATURATED with covid exposure (coast-to-coast, and 99% of all counties) for each month of 2021. That's 11.4 months. More infection means more deaths.
    On the last day of February, 2020, Trump declared we only had 15 infections. The country was not FULLY SATURATED with covid exposure until late June 2020.
    A fair comparison must compare the similar conditions: full saturation of covid exposure permeating every corner of the nation. So 11.4 months of full covid saturation across the country obviously means many more deaths than just 6 months of full covid saturation in 2020. Huge difference!  This accounts for most of it.

    Secondly, deaths from covid occured every month, but the U.S. did not have 200,000,000 vaccinated on January 1, 2021. Any implication that vaccines are worthless, as you are clearly trying to do quoting 200m vaccinated, only works if all were vaccinated on day one. Then you can compare the death counts. Otherwise you are making an illogical apples to oranges comparison.

    Third, we can vaccinate thousands against polio, but if they haven't got the vaccine engineered SPECIFICALLY FOR MEASLES then it is very likely they will get the measles infection. So it is with Delta.
    Nobody in America is vaccinated with a delta-variant vaccine! Delta became the dominant strain in April. Prior to then the vaccines were working very well against the original Wuhan strain. That all changed with Delta. That is another apples vs. oranges argument.
    Of course there will be more deaths from delta than wuhan because the vaccines are less than 60% efficacy against delta but 95% effective vs the 2020 wuhan strain that they were engineered to combat.

    Fourth, the delta variant (2021) is much more transmissible than the original Wuhan strain (2020) and therefore, more infections ultimately means more deaths. 2020 did not have to deal with Delta.

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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2021 - 9:56 AM ET #478

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     

    @I_Need_A_Detox       Don't be so naïve!!!

    Every presidential administration tries to influence networks.

    The last guy had FOX in his back pocket getting air time anytime he wanted.

       YOU say some really stupid shit in here!

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    @I_Need_A_Detox       Don't be so naïve!!!

    Every presidential administration tries to influence networks.

    The last guy had FOX in his back pocket getting air time anytime he wanted.

       YOU say some really stupid shit in here!

    sleep2

    when youre right youre right

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2021 - 10:43 AM ET #479

    Stock market hitting all time highs

    Democratic cities hitting all time highs in crime and major violence and homelessness.

    Smash and grabs, murders for news camera equipment. Democratic truly want a two class system. Democratic leaders at the top taking all your money, everyone else below them. They'll keep pointing to racism (see Jesse) being the major issue with our country, but in reality, it's the dems themselves. They do not give a crap about you and your personal life, they only want your vote so they can keep taking more from you.

     

    Wake up dems. This is why Detox left your party.

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    Stock market hitting all time highs

    Democratic cities hitting all time highs in crime and major violence and homelessness.

    Smash and grabs, murders for news camera equipment. Democratic truly want a two class system. Democratic leaders at the top taking all your money, everyone else below them. They'll keep pointing to racism (see Jesse) being the major issue with our country, but in reality, it's the dems themselves. They do not give a crap about you and your personal life, they only want your vote so they can keep taking more from you.

     

    Wake up dems. This is why Detox left your party.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2021 - 3:55 PM ET #480

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    The supply chain issues will not be solved overnight.

    Definitely not.   They are a direct result of covid around the world, not just here.  But it affects here deeply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    The supply chain issues will not be solved overnight.

    Definitely not.   They are a direct result of covid around the world, not just here.  But it affects here deeply.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2021 - 4:36 PM ET #481

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: The supply chain issues will not be solved overnight.

    Definitely not.   They are a direct result of covid around the world, not just here.  But it affects here deeply.

     

    exactly right     its a worldwide problem eminanting from covid    monumental progress combating covid will have to be made first to restore supply chain eficacy to pre-covid norms

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: The supply chain issues will not be solved overnight.

    Definitely not.   They are a direct result of covid around the world, not just here.  But it affects here deeply.

     

    exactly right     its a worldwide problem eminanting from covid    monumental progress combating covid will have to be made first to restore supply chain eficacy to pre-covid norms

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2021 - 5:10 PM ET #482

    Chances of Kelly explaining how Covid is currently affecting the supply chain? 

    0%. 

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    Chances of Kelly explaining how Covid is currently affecting the supply chain? 

    0%. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2021 - 5:40 PM ET #483

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:


    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 'This is a crisis now.' Admin official pleads with Congress to immediately address computer chip shortage   Washington (CNN Business)The worldwide computer chip shortage is fanning the flames of inflation and limiting the supply of everything from iPhones to new cars. Only 12% of the world's computer chips were made in the U.S. last year, according to the Semiconductor Industry Association.

    Covid has exposed how sensitive America's intricate supply chains are to shocks, even ones happening on the other side of the world. Covid outbreaks and extreme weather overseas knocked out computer chip production in Asia, while demand here simultaneously soared. The resulting computer chip shortage has significantly contributed to the biggest inflation spike in three decades.

     

     

     

    That is accurate.  It's almost unbelievable how rampant covid overseas leads to worker health issues and shutdowns of chip producing plants which in turn slows our economy and drives up prices here and around the world!  Covid ultimately is driving much of the inflation problem 

    well said guys  peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 'This is a crisis now.' Admin official pleads with Congress to immediately address computer chip shortage   Washington (CNN Business)The worldwide computer chip shortage is fanning the flames of inflation and limiting the supply of everything from iPhones to new cars. Only 12% of the world's computer chips were made in the U.S. last year, according to the Semiconductor Industry Association.

    Covid has exposed how sensitive America's intricate supply chains are to shocks, even ones happening on the other side of the world. Covid outbreaks and extreme weather overseas knocked out computer chip production in Asia, while demand here simultaneously soared. The resulting computer chip shortage has significantly contributed to the biggest inflation spike in three decades.

     

     

     

    That is accurate.  It's almost unbelievable how rampant covid overseas leads to worker health issues and shutdowns of chip producing plants which in turn slows our economy and drives up prices here and around the world!  Covid ultimately is driving much of the inflation problem 

    well said guys  peace_5

     
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    US stocks posted solid gains Wednesday after the Federal Reserve announced plans to speed up the tapering of its bond purchases and potentially raise interest rates three times next year to fight inflation.

    •  The Dow added 1.1%, or more than 380 points! an_light
    •  The S&P 500 gained 1.6%.
    •  The Nasdaq Composite rose 2.2%.

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    US stocks posted solid gains Wednesday after the Federal Reserve announced plans to speed up the tapering of its bond purchases and potentially raise interest rates three times next year to fight inflation.

    •  The Dow added 1.1%, or more than 380 points! an_light
    •  The S&P 500 gained 1.6%.
    •  The Nasdaq Composite rose 2.2%.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2021 - 3:53 PM ET #485

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Chances of Kelly explaining how Covid is currently affecting the supply chain?  0%.

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    Chances of Kelly explaining how Covid is currently affecting the supply chain?  0%.

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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2021 - 3:56 PM ET #486

    The end is near.......

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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    The end is near.......

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    US stocks posted solid gains Wednesday after the Federal Reserve announced plans to speed up the tapering of its bond purchases and potentially raise interest rates three times next year to fight inflation. •  The Dow added 1.1%, or more than 380 points! •  The S&P 500 gained 1.6%.•  The Nasdaq Composite rose 2.2%.

     

     

    Taking a pretty big hit today though.    Omicron is driving that.

     

     

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    US stocks posted solid gains Wednesday after the Federal Reserve announced plans to speed up the tapering of its bond purchases and potentially raise interest rates three times next year to fight inflation. •  The Dow added 1.1%, or more than 380 points! •  The S&P 500 gained 1.6%.•  The Nasdaq Composite rose 2.2%.

     

     

    Taking a pretty big hit today though.    Omicron is driving that.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2022 - 10:18 AM ET #488

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    Ummm what happened to netflix NFLX?!

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    Ummm what happened to netflix NFLX?!

     
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    why is this in the penalty box?

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    why is this in the penalty box?

     
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     Because Fupa created too many threads on the same fucking topics so WS moved them all to the box an_roll_laugh

     This thread isn't going anywhere....way too many receipts from the sheeple in here!!!  

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     Because Fupa created too many threads on the same fucking topics so WS moved them all to the box an_roll_laugh

     This thread isn't going anywhere....way too many receipts from the sheeple in here!!!  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   US stocks posted solid gains Wednesday after the Federal Reserve announced plans to speed up the tapering of its bond purchases and potentially raise interest rates three times next year to fight inflation. •  The Dow added 1.1%, or more than 380 points! •  The S&P 500 gained 1.6%.•  The Nasdaq Composite rose 2.2%.     Taking a pretty big hit today though.    Omicron is driving that.

    So wait now Covid is an excuse for the stock market going down and the economy going to shit? Wasn't it all Democrats that were holding Trump's feet to the fire for the economy being terrible in 2020 and ignoring the fact it was directly Covid related. Now it's an excuse for Democrats, that's rich. an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   US stocks posted solid gains Wednesday after the Federal Reserve announced plans to speed up the tapering of its bond purchases and potentially raise interest rates three times next year to fight inflation. •  The Dow added 1.1%, or more than 380 points! •  The S&P 500 gained 1.6%.•  The Nasdaq Composite rose 2.2%.     Taking a pretty big hit today though.    Omicron is driving that.

    So wait now Covid is an excuse for the stock market going down and the economy going to shit? Wasn't it all Democrats that were holding Trump's feet to the fire for the economy being terrible in 2020 and ignoring the fact it was directly Covid related. Now it's an excuse for Democrats, that's rich. an_roll_laugh

     
     
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     Baisch only knows what MSM tells him.... Omicron was the media narrative, the market didn't give 2 shits about it.  

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     Baisch only knows what MSM tells him.... Omicron was the media narrative, the market didn't give 2 shits about it.  

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