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    darkhorse12
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2020 - 12:09 AM ET #2801

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1] There's a long history of compensation where countries have paid millions & instances where countries have paid nothing at all. As far as punishment, eliminate trade with the offending country is a start. Banning travel to & from the country should also be considered. Eliminate trade ?!  You really do need to start paying attention to the news.    What the hell do you think all these sanctions are on Iran ?  Don't you think they are already constricting trade, thus their economy . Should we add a travel ban to Iran, too.  It's a hot vacation destination after all. Lol.   I vote to send you on a way ticket to the mullahs.

    First of all, no American died so no compensation or additional punishment is on the horizon.

    The nations who lost loved ones are the countries I spoke of in response to Detox's question.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1] There's a long history of compensation where countries have paid millions & instances where countries have paid nothing at all. As far as punishment, eliminate trade with the offending country is a start. Banning travel to & from the country should also be considered. Eliminate trade ?!  You really do need to start paying attention to the news.    What the hell do you think all these sanctions are on Iran ?  Don't you think they are already constricting trade, thus their economy . Should we add a travel ban to Iran, too.  It's a hot vacation destination after all. Lol.   I vote to send you on a way ticket to the mullahs.

    First of all, no American died so no compensation or additional punishment is on the horizon.

    The nations who lost loved ones are the countries I spoke of in response to Detox's question.

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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2020 - 12:14 AM ET #2802

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    There's a long history of compensation where countries have paid millions & instances where countries have paid nothing at all. As far as punishment, eliminate trade with the offending country is a start. Banning travel to & from the country should also be considered. Eliminate trade ?!  You really do need to start paying attention to the news.    What the hell do you think all these sanctions are on Iran ?  Don't you think they are already constricting trade, thus their economy . Should we add a travel ban to Iran, too.  It's a hot vacation destination after all. Lol.   I vote to send you on a way ticket to the mullahs.

    First of all, no American died so no compensation or additional punishment is on the horizon.

    The nations who lost loved ones are the countries I spoke of in response to Detox's question.

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    Was going to say china and iran still trade despite the sanctions but we still trade with china don't we? What good are the sanctions? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    There's a long history of compensation where countries have paid millions & instances where countries have paid nothing at all. As far as punishment, eliminate trade with the offending country is a start. Banning travel to & from the country should also be considered. Eliminate trade ?!  You really do need to start paying attention to the news.    What the hell do you think all these sanctions are on Iran ?  Don't you think they are already constricting trade, thus their economy . Should we add a travel ban to Iran, too.  It's a hot vacation destination after all. Lol.   I vote to send you on a way ticket to the mullahs.

    First of all, no American died so no compensation or additional punishment is on the horizon.

    The nations who lost loved ones are the countries I spoke of in response to Detox's question.

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    Was going to say china and iran still trade despite the sanctions but we still trade with china don't we? What good are the sanctions? 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2020 - 1:01 AM ET #2803

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Dark- ok you don't hate Trump, I guess I misunderstood all the negativity. Please, provide me some answers. You will be the first.

             Appreciate any response. What do we stand to lose if Trump goes? What do we gain by any democratic nominee. Tx

    What do we stand to lose if trump goes? There will be a big layoff in the fact checker job line for sure. Sure animosity between our allies would be reduced. Foreign relations hopefully will be repaired rather than the haphazard crap that trump decides to do on a whim. Hopefully a lot of environmental issues will be reinstated that affect clean air and water. Hopefully education will be adequately funded since I believe education has more to do with growing the economy than anything. Hopefully healthcare would become more affordable as I don't believe your lifespan or quality of life should be determined by your wealth.  Hopefully infrastructure will be a priority, our country is literally failing and falling apart. How is that for starters? Dems will at least get the ball rolling on some of these issues . Thats why I will vote blue no matter who.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Dark- ok you don't hate Trump, I guess I misunderstood all the negativity. Please, provide me some answers. You will be the first.

             Appreciate any response. What do we stand to lose if Trump goes? What do we gain by any democratic nominee. Tx

    What do we stand to lose if trump goes? There will be a big layoff in the fact checker job line for sure. Sure animosity between our allies would be reduced. Foreign relations hopefully will be repaired rather than the haphazard crap that trump decides to do on a whim. Hopefully a lot of environmental issues will be reinstated that affect clean air and water. Hopefully education will be adequately funded since I believe education has more to do with growing the economy than anything. Hopefully healthcare would become more affordable as I don't believe your lifespan or quality of life should be determined by your wealth.  Hopefully infrastructure will be a priority, our country is literally failing and falling apart. How is that for starters? Dems will at least get the ball rolling on some of these issues . Thats why I will vote blue no matter who.




     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2020 - 7:59 AM ET #2804

    Animosity between which allies would be reduced? 

     

    Education will be adequately funded? We spend more per student than any other country in the world. How much more do you want? 

     

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    Animosity between which allies would be reduced? 

     

    Education will be adequately funded? We spend more per student than any other country in the world. How much more do you want? 

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2020 - 9:48 AM ET #2805

    dark - i don't know where to start - let's go line by line- Fact checkin jobs -Is that really a job? Lets agree that all congress and above are liars

             and thieves- well 80%. Man, a fact checker wouldn't have enuf time. Animosity between our allies - Trump got all the freeloaders off the

             gravy train. HE stood up for us- Refreshing wouldn't you say? We are standing strong against to create a new "WE ARE HERE" attitude

             versus "You all just keep shittin down our throats - that's our new foreign relations (EX - China,Mexico,Canada)Joe Biden has never made

            a foreign relations decision that wasn't wrong. Environment - We are still the number 1 country in the world battling carbon emissions. 

           Education - answered above. Healthcare - Who made it un-affordable (Geezus) -Medicare for all - YEA - That's reality_ Simply vote

           grabbing like healthcare for 2 million illegal immigrants while homeless people get shit on. Attacking the wealthy is a joke - The rich are

           going to stay rich, period. Simply take care of your own family and fk the rich, it is what it is. Infrastructure - Trump asked the Dems to

           cut all budget by 1% to pay for infrastructure - They unanimously voted NO (WHY). They don't give two shits about you or I. Ill concede

          the Republicans don't either. To say the Dems will get the ball rolling is an OXYMORON - WTF have they done in the last 11 years. I get

          a little vomit ion my mouth when someone suggest the Dems do anything. Anyway, not tryin to get disrespectful, but your goin to vote 

          Dem no matter what and I'm cool with that. I just don't agree with your logic. Can you give me some input on any policy you agree with

          by any present candidate? (This is the question all avoid - Just one)  Tx again man, have a good day

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    dark - i don't know where to start - let's go line by line- Fact checkin jobs -Is that really a job? Lets agree that all congress and above are liars

             and thieves- well 80%. Man, a fact checker wouldn't have enuf time. Animosity between our allies - Trump got all the freeloaders off the

             gravy train. HE stood up for us- Refreshing wouldn't you say? We are standing strong against to create a new "WE ARE HERE" attitude

             versus "You all just keep shittin down our throats - that's our new foreign relations (EX - China,Mexico,Canada)Joe Biden has never made

            a foreign relations decision that wasn't wrong. Environment - We are still the number 1 country in the world battling carbon emissions. 

           Education - answered above. Healthcare - Who made it un-affordable (Geezus) -Medicare for all - YEA - That's reality_ Simply vote

           grabbing like healthcare for 2 million illegal immigrants while homeless people get shit on. Attacking the wealthy is a joke - The rich are

           going to stay rich, period. Simply take care of your own family and fk the rich, it is what it is. Infrastructure - Trump asked the Dems to

           cut all budget by 1% to pay for infrastructure - They unanimously voted NO (WHY). They don't give two shits about you or I. Ill concede

          the Republicans don't either. To say the Dems will get the ball rolling is an OXYMORON - WTF have they done in the last 11 years. I get

          a little vomit ion my mouth when someone suggest the Dems do anything. Anyway, not tryin to get disrespectful, but your goin to vote 

          Dem no matter what and I'm cool with that. I just don't agree with your logic. Can you give me some input on any policy you agree with

          by any present candidate? (This is the question all avoid - Just one)  Tx again man, have a good day

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2020 - 6:04 PM ET #2806

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    It's probably pretty close to "hate" But not as extreme as pissing on his grave, wishing him great harm such as death or spitting in his eye ,but pretty close. 

    You may be correct.  But pretty sure it is headed in that direction. Some of your cohorts already seem to be at least there if not beyond. 

    Again, I get you guys not liking him. But to me it should be more key and more able to convince others if the substance of the policies are attacked — not just to say how awful of a person he is.  
    He is very, rich, smart, successful, charismatic, and iconoclastic.  Nobody with a reasonable mind can dispute this.  If they try they sound like they are spinning their wheels and not able to argue on a sensible plane about polices and effects.  

    At least with the whacko right that didn’t like Clinton or Obama they would also propose policy change and why, etc. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    It's probably pretty close to "hate" But not as extreme as pissing on his grave, wishing him great harm such as death or spitting in his eye ,but pretty close. 

    You may be correct.  But pretty sure it is headed in that direction. Some of your cohorts already seem to be at least there if not beyond. 

    Again, I get you guys not liking him. But to me it should be more key and more able to convince others if the substance of the policies are attacked — not just to say how awful of a person he is.  
    He is very, rich, smart, successful, charismatic, and iconoclastic.  Nobody with a reasonable mind can dispute this.  If they try they sound like they are spinning their wheels and not able to argue on a sensible plane about polices and effects.  

    At least with the whacko right that didn’t like Clinton or Obama they would also propose policy change and why, etc. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2020 - 12:55 AM ET #2807

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    dark - i don't know where to start - let's go line by line- Fact checkin jobs -Is that really a job? Lets agree that all congress and above are liars

             and thieves- well 80%. Man, a fact checker wouldn't have enuf time. Animosity between our allies - Trump got all the freeloaders off the

             gravy train. HE stood up for us- Refreshing wouldn't you say? We are standing strong against to create a new "WE ARE HERE" attitude

             versus "You all just keep shittin down our throats - that's our new foreign relations (EX - China,Mexico,Canada)Joe Biden has never made

            a foreign relations decision that wasn't wrong. Environment - We are still the number 1 country in the world battling carbon emissions. 

           Education - answered above. Healthcare - Who made it un-affordable (Geezus) -Medicare for all - YEA - That's reality_ Simply vote

           grabbing like healthcare for 2 million illegal immigrants while homeless people get garbage on. Attacking the wealthy is a joke - The rich are

           going to stay rich, period. Simply take care of your own family and fk the rich, it is what it is. Infrastructure - Trump asked the Dems to

           cut all budget by 1% to pay for infrastructure - They unanimously voted NO (WHY). They don't give two shits about you or I. Ill concede

          the Republicans don't either. To say the Dems will get the ball rolling is an OXYMORON - WTF have they done in the last 11 years. I get

          a little vomit ion my mouth when someone suggest the Dems do anything. Anyway, not tryin to get disrespectful, but your goin to vote 

          Dem no matter what and I'm cool with that. I just don't agree with your logic. Can you give me some input on any policy you agree with

          by any present candidate? (This is the question all avoid - Just one)  Tx again man, have a good day


    Was joking about the fact checking.

    Education is not adequately funded, by this I mean the money doesn't go to the right areas. trumps pick , betsy needs to go. 

    Healthcare should be free for everyone. We seem to not have a problem funding wars so why can't we find the funding for healthcare? 
    By the way those immigrants receive less in monetary value than those government subsidized corporations who receive billions of our tax dollars and make billions in profits. 

    trump has weakened clean air and water with his rollbacks.
    WOTUS and the coal ash rule in particular. Along with the methane rule and the clean power act. 

    As far as the dems doing anything , there are over 400 bills on moscow mitch's desk and 270+ are bi-partisan bills that could benefit a lot of middle and lower class peeps.

    As far as candidates and their policies ,they all have more to offer than the pos in the WH, at least for the middle and lower classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    dark - i don't know where to start - let's go line by line- Fact checkin jobs -Is that really a job? Lets agree that all congress and above are liars

             and thieves- well 80%. Man, a fact checker wouldn't have enuf time. Animosity between our allies - Trump got all the freeloaders off the

             gravy train. HE stood up for us- Refreshing wouldn't you say? We are standing strong against to create a new "WE ARE HERE" attitude

             versus "You all just keep shittin down our throats - that's our new foreign relations (EX - China,Mexico,Canada)Joe Biden has never made

            a foreign relations decision that wasn't wrong. Environment - We are still the number 1 country in the world battling carbon emissions. 

           Education - answered above. Healthcare - Who made it un-affordable (Geezus) -Medicare for all - YEA - That's reality_ Simply vote

           grabbing like healthcare for 2 million illegal immigrants while homeless people get garbage on. Attacking the wealthy is a joke - The rich are

           going to stay rich, period. Simply take care of your own family and fk the rich, it is what it is. Infrastructure - Trump asked the Dems to

           cut all budget by 1% to pay for infrastructure - They unanimously voted NO (WHY). They don't give two shits about you or I. Ill concede

          the Republicans don't either. To say the Dems will get the ball rolling is an OXYMORON - WTF have they done in the last 11 years. I get

          a little vomit ion my mouth when someone suggest the Dems do anything. Anyway, not tryin to get disrespectful, but your goin to vote 

          Dem no matter what and I'm cool with that. I just don't agree with your logic. Can you give me some input on any policy you agree with

          by any present candidate? (This is the question all avoid - Just one)  Tx again man, have a good day


    Was joking about the fact checking.

    Education is not adequately funded, by this I mean the money doesn't go to the right areas. trumps pick , betsy needs to go. 

    Healthcare should be free for everyone. We seem to not have a problem funding wars so why can't we find the funding for healthcare? 
    By the way those immigrants receive less in monetary value than those government subsidized corporations who receive billions of our tax dollars and make billions in profits. 

    trump has weakened clean air and water with his rollbacks.
    WOTUS and the coal ash rule in particular. Along with the methane rule and the clean power act. 

    As far as the dems doing anything , there are over 400 bills on moscow mitch's desk and 270+ are bi-partisan bills that could benefit a lot of middle and lower class peeps.

    As far as candidates and their policies ,they all have more to offer than the pos in the WH, at least for the middle and lower classes.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Animosity between which allies would be reduced? 

     

    Education will be adequately funded? We spend more per student than any other country in the world. How much more do you want? 

     


    While we might spend more per student than any other country that doesn't mean that it goes to the right places.
    Here is a good read on what I mean.
    https://learningpolicyinstitute.org/blog/why-our-education-funding-systems-are-derailing-american-dream
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Animosity between which allies would be reduced? 

     

    Education will be adequately funded? We spend more per student than any other country in the world. How much more do you want? 

     


    While we might spend more per student than any other country that doesn't mean that it goes to the right places.
    Here is a good read on what I mean.
    https://learningpolicyinstitute.org/blog/why-our-education-funding-systems-are-derailing-american-dream
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:


    You may be correct.  But pretty sure it is headed in that direction. Some of your cohorts already seem to be at least there if not beyond. 

    Again, I get you guys not liking him. But to me it should be more key and more able to convince others if the substance of the policies are attacked — not just to say how awful of a person he is.  
    He is very, rich, smart, successful, charismatic, and iconoclastic.  Nobody with a reasonable mind can dispute this.  If they try they sound like they are spinning their wheels and not able to argue on a sensible plane about polices and effects.  

    At least with the whacko right that didn’t like Clinton or Obama they would also propose policy change and why, etc. 

    rich, he says he is. Haven't seen proof though.

    smart, smarter than 63 million he conned into voting for him.

    successful, if you call 6 bankruptcies successful plus failing at stealing from your own charity and foundation and failing to get away with defrauding people with your fake university.

    charismatic, his charisma appeals to others like him and ones who have very poor judgement . Seems most of his inner circle who he attracted are either behind bars or will soon be. Nothing bothers me more than a liar and a thief.

    iconoclastic, you really seem to be reaching here. Iconoclastic/ How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:


    You may be correct.  But pretty sure it is headed in that direction. Some of your cohorts already seem to be at least there if not beyond. 

    Again, I get you guys not liking him. But to me it should be more key and more able to convince others if the substance of the policies are attacked — not just to say how awful of a person he is.  
    He is very, rich, smart, successful, charismatic, and iconoclastic.  Nobody with a reasonable mind can dispute this.  If they try they sound like they are spinning their wheels and not able to argue on a sensible plane about polices and effects.  

    At least with the whacko right that didn’t like Clinton or Obama they would also propose policy change and why, etc. 

    rich, he says he is. Haven't seen proof though.

    smart, smarter than 63 million he conned into voting for him.

    successful, if you call 6 bankruptcies successful plus failing at stealing from your own charity and foundation and failing to get away with defrauding people with your fake university.

    charismatic, his charisma appeals to others like him and ones who have very poor judgement . Seems most of his inner circle who he attracted are either behind bars or will soon be. Nothing bothers me more than a liar and a thief.

    iconoclastic, you really seem to be reaching here. Iconoclastic/ How so?

     
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    Yes. He is rich. Look at his houses, plane, lifestyle.  The proof is he can go and do and buy things you and I cannot.  You don’t need proof that Lebron James is rich.  You know he is; you know Trump is.  People are just noisy and jealous.  
    Sure he had many failings — most business ventures run into this.  So, he has perseverance also.  Good for him and good to have that in a President.  
    Yes.  Smart.  Successful.  Charismatic.  
    You don’t think iconoclastic?  Really?
    He uses twitter for goodness sakes, even after all of the conventional wisdom and pundits told him not to.  He is unorthodox as a politician. Anyone who denies this is being ridiculous.  
    That is one of the main reasons he beat out a heap of regular politicians.  Speaks and says what is on his mind.  Attacks back at someone after they attack him — and does it more forcefully.  
    Come on, you have to admit that is not your standard politician. 
    And 63 M is a lot of folks.  
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    Yes. He is rich. Look at his houses, plane, lifestyle.  The proof is he can go and do and buy things you and I cannot.  You don’t need proof that Lebron James is rich.  You know he is; you know Trump is.  People are just noisy and jealous.  
    Sure he had many failings — most business ventures run into this.  So, he has perseverance also.  Good for him and good to have that in a President.  
    Yes.  Smart.  Successful.  Charismatic.  
    You don’t think iconoclastic?  Really?
    He uses twitter for goodness sakes, even after all of the conventional wisdom and pundits told him not to.  He is unorthodox as a politician. Anyone who denies this is being ridiculous.  
    That is one of the main reasons he beat out a heap of regular politicians.  Speaks and says what is on his mind.  Attacks back at someone after they attack him — and does it more forcefully.  
    Come on, you have to admit that is not your standard politician. 
    And 63 M is a lot of folks.  
     
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        Okay ,let me ask one more time - What policies do you agree with that any democratic candidate is offering - Why can't

                  anyone answer this simple question - It always come down to the ranting about Trump- SOMEONE answer the

                  question without mentioning Trump.

       Dark - 400 bills on Mitch's desk - How many have their usual "do this for us twist' as is the norm- Sorry man, weak response.

                Can you answer the original question _ what policy are you Dems offering???????????????????????????????? Tx

     

                Can you give me any example of any bill on Mitch's desk?

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        Okay ,let me ask one more time - What policies do you agree with that any democratic candidate is offering - Why can't

                  anyone answer this simple question - It always come down to the ranting about Trump- SOMEONE answer the

                  question without mentioning Trump.

       Dark - 400 bills on Mitch's desk - How many have their usual "do this for us twist' as is the norm- Sorry man, weak response.

                Can you answer the original question _ what policy are you Dems offering???????????????????????????????? Tx

     

                Can you give me any example of any bill on Mitch's desk?

     
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    I've answered your question and at least one other poster did as well. If you really cared, you can look up our answers.

    You can also look up all the bills sitting on the desk of Moscow Mitch. These were already discussed by me & someone on the right.

    Don't be so farking lazy.  

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    I've answered your question and at least one other poster did as well. If you really cared, you can look up our answers.

    You can also look up all the bills sitting on the desk of Moscow Mitch. These were already discussed by me & someone on the right.

    Don't be so farking lazy.  

     
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    Sounds as if the Senate Republicans have included a 'kill switch' to be included in the Senate Impeachment rules. The Republicans can vote to dismiss the tyrannical hoax of impeachment. Let's see what happens. Hopefully all involved from  the Left can move out sharply after dismissal!

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    Sounds as if the Senate Republicans have included a 'kill switch' to be included in the Senate Impeachment rules. The Republicans can vote to dismiss the tyrannical hoax of impeachment. Let's see what happens. Hopefully all involved from  the Left can move out sharply after dismissal!

     
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    The American public will be watching this process to see if it is handled fairly with witnesses & documents.

    If the process is a farce, Republicans can kiss away the Senate in 2020.

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    The American public will be watching this process to see if it is handled fairly with witnesses & documents.

    If the process is a farce, Republicans can kiss away the Senate in 2020.

     
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    Midnight1 - No one has answered the question - WHAT POLICY DO YOU BELIEVE IN FROM THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. You have not

                     given me one - You keep spinning the same ole same ole sh it. Give me a precise policy - Just fkn one. Sorry to be beligerent,

                     but you can't answer, Why is that. Could it be you have no candidates with simple logic. Welfare for all - free healthcare for

                     2 million immigrants- Elimination of Ices - Degrading of all law enforcement (New York for example freeing criminals - ass holes-

                    Va wanting to take your guns -) Self reliant on energy is out the door - Gas will go to $6.00 a gallon - Dems tell you straight out

                    your taxes are goin up. 

                    Now answer the original question if you can- Or just keep blowin smoke up my a ss. As for the 400 bills. I don't really give

                    a shit. But,i do know every bill sent up always has a catch. you wanna talk stonewalling. Pelosi on the USMCA bill. The fk in

                  games you  guys play or laughable and are going to bit you in the as s. Every one and their mother knows this impeachment

                  is a farce. WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL YOUR WITNESSES IN THE HOUSE TRIAL. Then, ask for a fair trial in the Senate. Again 

                  laughable. Give me an answer to the original question - What policy are you in agreement with from your candidates. If

                  you did refresh my mind. That or either just make up more babbe to avoid an answer. If Trump goes, all prosperity goes out

                  the door. Stop watching CNN only, flip back to Fox every now and then to get 2 different perspectives as I do. Let me also ask this

                  -Have you ever heard CNN give any credit to the President? Does that tell you anything? I don't mean to an a ss here but I

                  it simply gets annoying that Trump-haters can't list 5 things that Trump has accomplished - I find that simple ignorance.

                  I appreciate your passion for the other side- I just don't agree at all - Isn't that a broken Dem golden rule of not agreeing

                  with anything they tell ya.. Ill await an answer to the original question. Sorry if this came across disrespectful.  I respect others

                  opinions even if I don't concur. Have a nice day

    Reply

    Midnight1 - No one has answered the question - WHAT POLICY DO YOU BELIEVE IN FROM THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. You have not

                     given me one - You keep spinning the same ole same ole sh it. Give me a precise policy - Just fkn one. Sorry to be beligerent,

                     but you can't answer, Why is that. Could it be you have no candidates with simple logic. Welfare for all - free healthcare for

                     2 million immigrants- Elimination of Ices - Degrading of all law enforcement (New York for example freeing criminals - ass holes-

                    Va wanting to take your guns -) Self reliant on energy is out the door - Gas will go to $6.00 a gallon - Dems tell you straight out

                    your taxes are goin up. 

                    Now answer the original question if you can- Or just keep blowin smoke up my a ss. As for the 400 bills. I don't really give

                    a shit. But,i do know every bill sent up always has a catch. you wanna talk stonewalling. Pelosi on the USMCA bill. The fk in

                  games you  guys play or laughable and are going to bit you in the as s. Every one and their mother knows this impeachment

                  is a farce. WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL YOUR WITNESSES IN THE HOUSE TRIAL. Then, ask for a fair trial in the Senate. Again 

                  laughable. Give me an answer to the original question - What policy are you in agreement with from your candidates. If

                  you did refresh my mind. That or either just make up more babbe to avoid an answer. If Trump goes, all prosperity goes out

                  the door. Stop watching CNN only, flip back to Fox every now and then to get 2 different perspectives as I do. Let me also ask this

                  -Have you ever heard CNN give any credit to the President? Does that tell you anything? I don't mean to an a ss here but I

                  it simply gets annoying that Trump-haters can't list 5 things that Trump has accomplished - I find that simple ignorance.

                  I appreciate your passion for the other side- I just don't agree at all - Isn't that a broken Dem golden rule of not agreeing

                  with anything they tell ya.. Ill await an answer to the original question. Sorry if this came across disrespectful.  I respect others

                  opinions even if I don't concur. Have a nice day

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Yes. He is rich. Look at his houses, plane, lifestyle.  The proof is he can go and do and buy things you and I cannot.  You don’t need proof that Lebron James is rich.  You know he is; you know Trump is.  People are just noisy and jealous.  
    Sure he had many failings — most business ventures run into this.  So, he has perseverance also.  Good for him and good to have that in a President.  
    Yes.  Smart.  Successful.  Charismatic.  
    You don’t think iconoclastic?  Really?
    He uses twitter for goodness sakes, even after all of the conventional wisdom and pundits told him not to.  He is unorthodox as a politician. Anyone who denies this is being ridiculous.  
    That is one of the main reasons he beat out a heap of regular politicians.  Speaks and says what is on his mind.  Attacks back at someone after they attack him — and does it more forcefully.  
    Come on, you have to admit that is not your standard politician. 
    And 63 M is a lot of folks.  

    You can be millions  of dollars in debt and and still buy things you and I can't.
     
    You are right ,he is not a standard politician. He is a businessman and businessmen are in the business of making money for themselves and their investors. And when they fail people like you and I absorb their losses one way or another

    Iconoclast, not to me. I also speak my mind does that make me an icon? 

    Of those 63 million how many do you think saw anything but an "R" behind his name? And 66 million who voted against him is a lot more.

    Perseverance, is lying and conning the poorly educated a quality trait? 


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Yes. He is rich. Look at his houses, plane, lifestyle.  The proof is he can go and do and buy things you and I cannot.  You don’t need proof that Lebron James is rich.  You know he is; you know Trump is.  People are just noisy and jealous.  
    Sure he had many failings — most business ventures run into this.  So, he has perseverance also.  Good for him and good to have that in a President.  
    Yes.  Smart.  Successful.  Charismatic.  
    You don’t think iconoclastic?  Really?
    He uses twitter for goodness sakes, even after all of the conventional wisdom and pundits told him not to.  He is unorthodox as a politician. Anyone who denies this is being ridiculous.  
    That is one of the main reasons he beat out a heap of regular politicians.  Speaks and says what is on his mind.  Attacks back at someone after they attack him — and does it more forcefully.  
    Come on, you have to admit that is not your standard politician. 
    And 63 M is a lot of folks.  

    You can be millions  of dollars in debt and and still buy things you and I can't.
     
    You are right ,he is not a standard politician. He is a businessman and businessmen are in the business of making money for themselves and their investors. And when they fail people like you and I absorb their losses one way or another

    Iconoclast, not to me. I also speak my mind does that make me an icon? 

    Of those 63 million how many do you think saw anything but an "R" behind his name? And 66 million who voted against him is a lot more.

    Perseverance, is lying and conning the poorly educated a quality trait? 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Sorry, just one more thing - Still no one has givin me one policy that they agree with for the upcoming Democratic nominee that will improve your way of life!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE - I am only asking for one that will sway me to vote Democratic. Does a non-response speak volumes? So all you Republicans, simply ask your Democrats friend this question.

     

    Like Double, I am financially secure & my children will be the same when my wife & I pass on to a better life.

    However, I want my children & grandchildren to never worry about health care & the extraordinary costs associated with it. Losing care due to pre-existing conditions would be devastating for most Americans.

    The end of Medicare & Medicaid as we know it . Sure there are abuses in Medicaid & I want those addressed. I also want the generational concept that the government should take care of irresponsible Americans popping out puppies ended. 

    The rebirth of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau will not take place with Republicans in power.

    I want immigrants to get a fair shake to pursue the American dream that many people believe is dead. I do not believe it is dead. 

    These are off the top of my head & now it's time for football!

    Snorkel..I responded back in November

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Sorry, just one more thing - Still no one has givin me one policy that they agree with for the upcoming Democratic nominee that will improve your way of life!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE - I am only asking for one that will sway me to vote Democratic. Does a non-response speak volumes? So all you Republicans, simply ask your Democrats friend this question.

     

    Like Double, I am financially secure & my children will be the same when my wife & I pass on to a better life.

    However, I want my children & grandchildren to never worry about health care & the extraordinary costs associated with it. Losing care due to pre-existing conditions would be devastating for most Americans.

    The end of Medicare & Medicaid as we know it . Sure there are abuses in Medicaid & I want those addressed. I also want the generational concept that the government should take care of irresponsible Americans popping out puppies ended. 

    The rebirth of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau will not take place with Republicans in power.

    I want immigrants to get a fair shake to pursue the American dream that many people believe is dead. I do not believe it is dead. 

    These are off the top of my head & now it's time for football!

    Snorkel..I responded back in November

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Midnight1 - No one has answered the question - WHAT POLICY DO YOU BELIEVE IN FROM THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. You have not

                     given me one - You keep spinning the same ole same ole sh it. Give me a precise policy - Just fkn one. Sorry to be beligerent,

                     but you can't answer, Why is that. Could it be you have no candidates with simple logic. Welfare for all - free healthcare for

                     2 million immigrants- Elimination of Ices - Degrading of all law enforcement (New York for example freeing criminals - behind holes-

                    Va wanting to take your guns -) Self reliant on energy is out the door - Gas will go to $6.00 a gallon - Dems tell you straight out

                    your taxes are goin up. 

                    Now answer the original question if you can- Or just keep blowin smoke up my a ss. As for the 400 bills. I don't really give

                    a garbage. But,i do know every bill sent up always has a catch. you wanna talk stonewalling. Pelosi on the USMCA bill. The fk in

                  games you  guys play or laughable and are going to bit you in the as s. Every one and their mother knows this impeachment

                  is a farce. WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL YOUR WITNESSES IN THE HOUSE TRIAL. Then, ask for a fair trial in the Senate. Again 

                  laughable. Give me an answer to the original question - What policy are you in agreement with from your candidates. If

                  you did refresh my mind. That or either just make up more babbe to avoid an answer. If Trump goes, all prosperity goes out

                  the door. Stop watching CNN only, flip back to Fox every now and then to get 2 different perspectives as I do. Let me also ask this

                  -Have you ever heard CNN give any credit to the President? Does that tell you anything? I don't mean to an a ss here but I

                  it simply gets annoying that Trump-haters can't list 5 things that Trump has accomplished - I find that simple ignorance.

                  I appreciate your passion for the other side- I just don't agree at all - Isn't that a broken Dem golden rule of not agreeing

                  with anything they tell ya.. Ill await an answer to the original question. Sorry if this came across disrespectful.  I respect others

                  opinions even if I don't concur. Have a nice day


    So much for being open minded. I understand how you could be conned by the liar and thief in the WH. The policies you wanted somebody to name are the same ones trump has reversed most notably environmental issues. Healthcare for all will be addressed ,Education will be addressed by dems also.Infrastructure will also be addressed as it was during Obama when the reps squashed it.
    Everything trump has reversed he has reversed in the name of business and against the health and safety of the general pop. 
    Everything I have mentioned for the umteenth time are all dem policies. All dem candidates have them on their lists but maybe in different priorities. That's why I will vote BLUE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Midnight1 - No one has answered the question - WHAT POLICY DO YOU BELIEVE IN FROM THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. You have not

                     given me one - You keep spinning the same ole same ole sh it. Give me a precise policy - Just fkn one. Sorry to be beligerent,

                     but you can't answer, Why is that. Could it be you have no candidates with simple logic. Welfare for all - free healthcare for

                     2 million immigrants- Elimination of Ices - Degrading of all law enforcement (New York for example freeing criminals - behind holes-

                    Va wanting to take your guns -) Self reliant on energy is out the door - Gas will go to $6.00 a gallon - Dems tell you straight out

                    your taxes are goin up. 

                    Now answer the original question if you can- Or just keep blowin smoke up my a ss. As for the 400 bills. I don't really give

                    a garbage. But,i do know every bill sent up always has a catch. you wanna talk stonewalling. Pelosi on the USMCA bill. The fk in

                  games you  guys play or laughable and are going to bit you in the as s. Every one and their mother knows this impeachment

                  is a farce. WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL YOUR WITNESSES IN THE HOUSE TRIAL. Then, ask for a fair trial in the Senate. Again 

                  laughable. Give me an answer to the original question - What policy are you in agreement with from your candidates. If

                  you did refresh my mind. That or either just make up more babbe to avoid an answer. If Trump goes, all prosperity goes out

                  the door. Stop watching CNN only, flip back to Fox every now and then to get 2 different perspectives as I do. Let me also ask this

                  -Have you ever heard CNN give any credit to the President? Does that tell you anything? I don't mean to an a ss here but I

                  it simply gets annoying that Trump-haters can't list 5 things that Trump has accomplished - I find that simple ignorance.

                  I appreciate your passion for the other side- I just don't agree at all - Isn't that a broken Dem golden rule of not agreeing

                  with anything they tell ya.. Ill await an answer to the original question. Sorry if this came across disrespectful.  I respect others

                  opinions even if I don't concur. Have a nice day


    So much for being open minded. I understand how you could be conned by the liar and thief in the WH. The policies you wanted somebody to name are the same ones trump has reversed most notably environmental issues. Healthcare for all will be addressed ,Education will be addressed by dems also.Infrastructure will also be addressed as it was during Obama when the reps squashed it.
    Everything trump has reversed he has reversed in the name of business and against the health and safety of the general pop. 
    Everything I have mentioned for the umteenth time are all dem policies. All dem candidates have them on their lists but maybe in different priorities. That's why I will vote BLUE.
     
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    Midnite - Now i remember once you mentioned the security for your family. I do have half-aheimers. As for healthcare for everyone  for free i

                 can not get on board with - Affordable healthcare, for sure. But the affordable health care law did the exact opposite. i'm the perfect 

                 example - from $700 a month to $2400 a month (Who can afford that - I was ready to pay the fine - it would have been cheaper) The

                 average American person is lazier than ever, wouldn't you agree ? Sounds like you worked all your life as have I. Do you concur that

                 the entitlements and freebies foster more laziness. People in general need to put their time in and get off the freeloader wagon. The

                 government does not share that novice approach - candidates simply say will give you shit if you vote for us. There are very few with

                any morals or ethics. They just want to get rich off the workin man. In total agreement with the puppy comment. use to be you got a

                bigger check for the more kids you had .Clinton did good by limiting it to 2. however, he fkd up Nafta for personal gain. I am with ya

                on legal immigration, not illegal immigration. America obviously can't handle homelessness and poverty for "our" people, the illegal

                influx obviously compounds the problem . Then it is multiplied by the scumbags running drugs and human trafficking, I don't have

                an answer, but how and the hell can having a wall hurt? What chaps my backside is that every single Dem wanted the wall when Obama

                was in office. Are their bigger Hypocrites on this planet then the Democratic Party and the main street media? tx for your response

    Dark -  You simply can't point your finger at Trump - How many honest people are there in Congress? My guess would be 5-10%. The playin

               field was set long before Trump got there wouldn't you say! In general, the Congress doesn't give two shi ts about Joe-Smo. Most are

               in for financial gain. Simply go with the lie of the day and shove it down our throats. This is SOP with the main-street media. Have you

               ever heard CNN retract or apologize for being wrong on so many occasions? They don't, they get caught and move on to the next lie. I'm

               not sure reversals your talking about that has not benefited business nor the health of the population (You talkin the coal industry?).

               I own a small business, and i can assure you every single small business owner loves what he has done for us. We were giving the

               government $32 for every $100 we made in profit. Now we give $21 per $100. Do you think that is fair? I appreciate the feedback,but

                let me close with this. Doesn't every single candidate (Dems and Rep) say the same ole bull sh it every single year - 

              

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    Midnite - Now i remember once you mentioned the security for your family. I do have half-aheimers. As for healthcare for everyone  for free i

                 can not get on board with - Affordable healthcare, for sure. But the affordable health care law did the exact opposite. i'm the perfect 

                 example - from $700 a month to $2400 a month (Who can afford that - I was ready to pay the fine - it would have been cheaper) The

                 average American person is lazier than ever, wouldn't you agree ? Sounds like you worked all your life as have I. Do you concur that

                 the entitlements and freebies foster more laziness. People in general need to put their time in and get off the freeloader wagon. The

                 government does not share that novice approach - candidates simply say will give you shit if you vote for us. There are very few with

                any morals or ethics. They just want to get rich off the workin man. In total agreement with the puppy comment. use to be you got a

                bigger check for the more kids you had .Clinton did good by limiting it to 2. however, he fkd up Nafta for personal gain. I am with ya

                on legal immigration, not illegal immigration. America obviously can't handle homelessness and poverty for "our" people, the illegal

                influx obviously compounds the problem . Then it is multiplied by the scumbags running drugs and human trafficking, I don't have

                an answer, but how and the hell can having a wall hurt? What chaps my backside is that every single Dem wanted the wall when Obama

                was in office. Are their bigger Hypocrites on this planet then the Democratic Party and the main street media? tx for your response

    Dark -  You simply can't point your finger at Trump - How many honest people are there in Congress? My guess would be 5-10%. The playin

               field was set long before Trump got there wouldn't you say! In general, the Congress doesn't give two shi ts about Joe-Smo. Most are

               in for financial gain. Simply go with the lie of the day and shove it down our throats. This is SOP with the main-street media. Have you

               ever heard CNN retract or apologize for being wrong on so many occasions? They don't, they get caught and move on to the next lie. I'm

               not sure reversals your talking about that has not benefited business nor the health of the population (You talkin the coal industry?).

               I own a small business, and i can assure you every single small business owner loves what he has done for us. We were giving the

               government $32 for every $100 we made in profit. Now we give $21 per $100. Do you think that is fair? I appreciate the feedback,but

                let me close with this. Doesn't every single candidate (Dems and Rep) say the same ole bull sh it every single year - 

              

     
    Snorkel
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2020 - 6:13 AM ET #2820

                We will improve education - we will create more high paying jobs - we will address immigration and infrastructure Blah blah blah-

                broken record. They spew out what they think you want to hear tryin to get your vote (as they should), then never follow thru on 

                anything. My main point is that they all LIE and STEAL, but by putting Trump out on an island is insane without looking at all

               the other criminals in Washington. he's playing the game that the rules were already established. would you concede that is a

               correct analysis? As for infrastructure, Trump asked all of Congress to cut their budget by 1% to address this problem. Every single Dem

               said NO. WHY? If I gave you $1000 dollars and said can I have $10 bucks back to help out the whole! What would be your response.

               Hell yea, here ya go. But nope, get fk d, were not helping you ever. Just another slap to Jo-Smo. Ok man, tx for your respectful

              banter which prob wasn't deserved after my last rant. In closing, i hate politicians in general on both sides, they have degraded

              the concept of morality and of being an ethical person. Tx dark, have a good one

    Reply

                We will improve education - we will create more high paying jobs - we will address immigration and infrastructure Blah blah blah-

                broken record. They spew out what they think you want to hear tryin to get your vote (as they should), then never follow thru on 

                anything. My main point is that they all LIE and STEAL, but by putting Trump out on an island is insane without looking at all

               the other criminals in Washington. he's playing the game that the rules were already established. would you concede that is a

               correct analysis? As for infrastructure, Trump asked all of Congress to cut their budget by 1% to address this problem. Every single Dem

               said NO. WHY? If I gave you $1000 dollars and said can I have $10 bucks back to help out the whole! What would be your response.

               Hell yea, here ya go. But nope, get fk d, were not helping you ever. Just another slap to Jo-Smo. Ok man, tx for your respectful

              banter which prob wasn't deserved after my last rant. In closing, i hate politicians in general on both sides, they have degraded

              the concept of morality and of being an ethical person. Tx dark, have a good one

     
    Rush51
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2020 - 12:48 AM ET #2821

    SNORKEL,  congratulations on being  a small business owner.  an_clap

    We need more people like you.  You guys are the lifeblood of our country.  

    Reply

    SNORKEL,  congratulations on being  a small business owner.  an_clap

    We need more people like you.  You guys are the lifeblood of our country.  

     
    sundance
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2020 - 2:21 PM ET #2822

    The following headline from the Gateway Pundit will give the Democratic nominee no chance in November vs Trump. We finally have Brexit and now we have Blexit! 

     

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    The following headline from the Gateway Pundit will give the Democratic nominee no chance in November vs Trump. We finally have Brexit and now we have Blexit! 

     

     
    sundance
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2020 - 2:23 PM ET #2823

    Let's try this. 42% of African Americans approve of Donald Trump. This is officially Blexit! The number is from the Gateway Pundit.

    Reply

    Let's try this. 42% of African Americans approve of Donald Trump. This is officially Blexit! The number is from the Gateway Pundit.

     
    sundance
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2020 - 9:21 PM ET #2824

    Tulsi Gabbard coming up on Hannity. Trump needs to find a position for her after the Roger Stone pardon.

    Reply

    Tulsi Gabbard coming up on Hannity. Trump needs to find a position for her after the Roger Stone pardon.

     
     
    sundance
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2020 - 9:29 AM ET #2825

    Taliban talks in place to end war in Afghanistan! 

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    Taliban talks in place to end war in Afghanistan! 

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