Covid-19 Good And Bad

According to Washingtonpost,  Trump administration is blocking funding to fight coronavirus in next senate financial relief bill.  Despite US having the most cases and deaths of any country in the world!  Trump's belief that more testing would reveal more cases is as silly as believing that more scans would discover more cancers.  Actually, testing followed by contact tracing help to safely reopen economy by finding and isolating infected people so that virus spread can be reduced.  This narrow target alternative is less costly than a broad shutdown of entire economy.   South Korea and Germany credit extensive testing early for their economic recovery.

Irony is that Trump has achieved the opposite of economic recovery by pushing states to reopen prematurely.  As coronavirus cases surge out of control, many states are forced to shutdown again.  He fails to realize that the economy cannot return to normal unless virus spread is contained.  Maryland GOP governor describes Trump as clueless, dishonest and useless in response to pandemic.  By leaving states to fight alone, Trump is betraying the most important responsibility of leadership.  Any president doesn't deserve to be reelected if he doesn't protect his own citizens.

Millions of Americans may face a enormous hit when congress current financial relief expires soon.  Next relief bill is expected to have lower benefits.  According to National bureau of economic research, congress assumes virus spread would be under control by now.  Instead the problem hasn't been fixed.  Trump's strategy is to ignore the pandemic and hope that it disappears eventually.  Unlike other countries, lack of national leadership has lead to coronavirus outbreaks skyrocketing.  The longer the US fails to control virus spread, the worse the economic fallout.  Director of US center for disease control says coronavirus spread can be controlled in 4 to 8 weeks if everyone wear masks in public.  Even National institute of health and Occupational health and safety administration recommend masks. 

this is absurd and must not be permited!

140,909 dead Americans on trump's watch, for which he is VERY LARGELY responsible.

If the Trump administration had got the pandemic response right the first time, virus spread would be under control and US economic recovery would be better.  According to Moody analytics, states with mask mandates have smaller increases in infection rates and consumers spend more as they reopen.  However no mask states have increasing unemployment.  Nationwide, new record highs in daily infections for 41 consecutive days - the worst performance of any developed country according to yahoo news.  The recession is dragging on longer than it should have. Trillions of dollars wasted if US remains dependent on government debt to keep economy afloat. 

WH announces Trump to hold a Covid-19 briefing today, will he be announcing ways to combat the pandemic or will this just be a pep rally for re-election? will he try to deflect the blame on others for the woes of the nation or actually provide solutions? 

 

Thirdperson couldn't possibly be more correct in that one sentence! Sums it up perfectly. It follows logically that if the pandemic CAUSING the economic meldown had been effectively stifled, contained, and mitigated right from the get-go - as many smart countries have done - then most of what followed as a direct result - especially DEATHS - is unlikely to have occurred to such a degree as we have witnessed.

The top priority of any good leader of a country is to protect the safety & security
of his citizens. The responsibility for a nation first and foremost falls on our FEDERAL
Government. Yes, the Governors are responsible for their states, and the Mayors
for their cities. But every US state and city would NOT EVEN BE in the position of
having to defend against a massive, out-of-control national, coronavirus pandemic,
if the trump admin had done it's job effectively IN THE FIRST PLACE!
That's the bottom line.
Research from highly regarded team at Ivy League, Columbia University
concluded that had swift action taken place just 2 weeks sooner (on March 1)
then up to 83% of viral spread and deaths would have been averted.

“It’s a big, BIG difference! That small moment in time, catching it in that growth
phase, is incredibly critical in reducing the number of deaths,”
Columbia epidemiologist Jeffrey Shaman told the New York Times.

Source: https://tinyurl.com/y83554v8

And increasing infections - with what follows 2-4 weeks later - increasing DEATHS.
So it's a failure at state level to some degree, but all stemming from what the trump admin
FAILED and indeed REFUSED to do from the get-go. This is well documented.

 

According to Worldometers chart info, there are 129 countries on the planet
with at least 4 million populations. Of those, only 7 have worse deaths per
capita than the USA - while 121 are doing far better! Why is that? How come,
with all our alleged might & technology, and supposed AWESOME leadership,
are we NOT one of the BEST in the world for handling this pandemic? Who the
hell is in charge of protecting our citizens??
https://tinyurl.com/y33sqa82

The self-described "KING of DEBT" doesn't give a damn. Afterall, it's not his money...

Source: https://tinyurl.com/y83554v8

 

Nothing to be celebrating...  especially in big bold numbers   But, that's what the radical left Trumphaters do even if it's not good news for America..

Trump has failed the country & that should be shouted from the highest mountain.

He still doesn't have a plan. He never had a plan. He will never have a plan.

 

no plan = failure at most basic level . maybe hes tryin to add bankrupt a country to his list of 6 bankruptcies

Truth in a  :30 sec  video

Many of you leftist are blaming Trump/government for the virus...how would have you handled this virus?
I’m not on this forum to start a political rally but if you think sleepy joe is your answer you have your head in the sand! 

Agree! I also wonder why the media and Americans in general aren't more upset with where the virus came from. It came from Wuhan China and they put a travel restriction to mainland China from Wuhan but allowed travel to other countries. While the WHO was telling everyone it wasn't a global emergency. 

I think the media and Trump Haters actually believe Trump created the Coronavirus and is keeping the CDC from doing anything to stop it. 

 

A few days ago, the only speaker of the house in the history of the US to rip up a President's speech on camera referred to the virus as the Trump Virus. Pelosi is simply a joke. If you want the truth, watch Kayleigh McEnany deal with the far left Washington post and NYT reporters at her weekly pressers. 

During her presser yesterday, she was prepared with headlines from all of the far left media back in January through early March. The same reporters that are now so critical of Trump, penned articles in January and February reporting the Coronavirus was NOT A THREAT to Americans in a wide variety of headlines. Several were critical of Trump for closing travel from China to the USA. She used over a dozen dozen articles from all of the left leaning media and asked them if they wished to retract their statements. They were all speechless. 

 

The vast majority of Americans strongly disagree with you. Sounds like you may be the one with your head in the sand if you think Trump handled this well. 

The person second in line to the presidency House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (that lying dog-face pony soldier) said on Tuesday evening to CNN ..calling the China Corona virus “Clearly it is the Trump virus"...

China lied about the virus outbreak and hundreds of thousands of people died, but Pelosi blamed Trump ...effectively relieving  China of the blame..playing into the hands of the Trump haters .

Yep. Pelosi leads them and they lap it up like a dog does to his water bowl after a walk in the blistering heat. The articles McEnany referenced are easily findable with a Google search. 

Good for Nancy, telling it like it is!!

 

I've asked this many times. No answers.

Yup go Nancy. She is 1000% correct! 

Mandated mask wearing 2-3 months ago, and informed all the Republican led states to hold off on re-opening their state economies until further information on COVID-19 was discovered, and the virus was under control. Perhaps have the states meet all of the criteria established by the CDC before re-opening, which none of the states actually achieved. 

Perhaps refrain from holding re-election rallies in states with utpicks in covid cases like Oklahoma 

Just a few of the measures which could have occurred with capable leadership. 

 

In the end what matters is what the American public thinks, not us on this forum.

And Dee is absolutely correct that the majority have made their views known (well, to anyone without right-wing partisan blinders on) and that majority believes trump mishandled the whole deal.  NOTHING you or I or the right-wing fascism lovers on this forum say is going to have any effect on the views of about 200 MILLION adults.  Win the debate or lose the debate -- means NOTHING.  What matters is what all thos MILLIONS of others think....and right now, on various issues, it is NOT in trump's favor...not even CLOSE on most issues!

 

What's the Q stu?...perhaps I can offer a reasoned opinion?

I gave him several answers and alternatives. 

Here's how the left would handle the virus attacks...25 days after President Trump's decision to halt flights to and from China (with the exclusion of American ex-patriots) Pelosi was walking around Chinatown in San Francisco after Coronavirus cases had already been confirmed in the US... encouraging people to shop and eat in Chinatown.

"We do want to say to people, come to Chinatown. Here we are…and come join us,” Pelosi said. Fears of the Coronavirus are “unwarranted in light of the precautions that are being taken here in the United States.”

Nancy you and Joe are at the same mentally aged stage ..