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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 2:16 PM ET #476

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We have our first reported suicide of an ER doctor in NYC. Her father reports she has been depressed for weeks. Our front line responders need our prayers. According to globalnews,  family says coronavirus altered her brain.  When asked if Feist believed she died because of the virus effects or what she saw in the hospital, her sister said, "I know in my heart that it was both."

    Let me axe you ...how come we don't hear about hundreds of other people in the coronovirus hospitals as patients or medical workers in the same environment committing suicide?

    Fiest is Jennifer Fiest ..Dr. Lorna Breen's sister ...“She (Lorna) had 12-hour shifts,” Jennifer Feist said. “When she finished, she said, ‘I can’t leave. Nobody’s leaving. I have to stay and help.'”    Nobody else was leaving,, so,why don't we hear about other suicides in that hospital?

    Note: Dr.Breen spent the eleven days at UVA Health in Charlottesville, Virginia dealing with mental health issues,....prior to killing herself in her sisters home..

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We have our first reported suicide of an ER doctor in NYC. Her father reports she has been depressed for weeks. Our front line responders need our prayers. According to globalnews,  family says coronavirus altered her brain.  When asked if Feist believed she died because of the virus effects or what she saw in the hospital, her sister said, "I know in my heart that it was both."

    Let me axe you ...how come we don't hear about hundreds of other people in the coronovirus hospitals as patients or medical workers in the same environment committing suicide?

    Fiest is Jennifer Fiest ..Dr. Lorna Breen's sister ...“She (Lorna) had 12-hour shifts,” Jennifer Feist said. “When she finished, she said, ‘I can’t leave. Nobody’s leaving. I have to stay and help.'”    Nobody else was leaving,, so,why don't we hear about other suicides in that hospital?

    Note: Dr.Breen spent the eleven days at UVA Health in Charlottesville, Virginia dealing with mental health issues,....prior to killing herself in her sisters home..

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 2:20 PM ET #477

    Trump administration failed to ban travel early from Europe to slow spread of coronavirus according to US center for disease control.  This delay accelerate spread of infection as almost 2 million travellers arrived from Europe in February.   Trump's travel bans are useless in preventing New York from becoming epicenter of pandemic in the US.  History of past outbreaks show travel bans are ineffective in stopping spread of infection according to World health organization.  Travel bans are too late when local community transmission is already widespread.  China travel ban only delay arrival to the US by 3 days according to National academy of sciences.  No evidence of any American life saved from China travel ban according to John Hopkins center for health security.  Over 30 countries imposed travel bans before Trump in January.  US and Italy implemented travel bans at almost the same time. but both countries still became epicenters of pandemic.

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    Trump administration failed to ban travel early from Europe to slow spread of coronavirus according to US center for disease control.  This delay accelerate spread of infection as almost 2 million travellers arrived from Europe in February.   Trump's travel bans are useless in preventing New York from becoming epicenter of pandemic in the US.  History of past outbreaks show travel bans are ineffective in stopping spread of infection according to World health organization.  Travel bans are too late when local community transmission is already widespread.  China travel ban only delay arrival to the US by 3 days according to National academy of sciences.  No evidence of any American life saved from China travel ban according to John Hopkins center for health security.  Over 30 countries imposed travel bans before Trump in January.  US and Italy implemented travel bans at almost the same time. but both countries still became epicenters of pandemic.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 2:48 PM ET #478

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump administration failed to ban travel early from Europe to slow spread of coronavirus according to US center for disease control.  This delay accelerate spread of infection as almost 2 million travellers arrived from Europe in February.   Trump's travel bans are useless in preventing New York from becoming epicenter of pandemic in the US.  History of past outbreaks show travel bans are ineffective in stopping spread of infection according to World health organization.  Travel bans are too late when local community transmission is already widespread.  China travel ban only delay arrival to the US by 3 days according to National academy of sciences.  No evidence of any American life saved from China travel ban according to John Hopkins center for health security.  Over 30 countries imposed travel bans before Trump in January.  US and Italy implemented travel bans at almost the same time. but both countries still became epicenters of pandemic.


    It wasn't soon enough........however, it appears it was too soon for others ..Joe Biden the Democrat presumptive presidential candidate tweeted about President Trump on the day the China travel restrictions were announced.

    Biden said: “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, and fear-mongering to lead the way instead of science.”....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump administration failed to ban travel early from Europe to slow spread of coronavirus according to US center for disease control.  This delay accelerate spread of infection as almost 2 million travellers arrived from Europe in February.   Trump's travel bans are useless in preventing New York from becoming epicenter of pandemic in the US.  History of past outbreaks show travel bans are ineffective in stopping spread of infection according to World health organization.  Travel bans are too late when local community transmission is already widespread.  China travel ban only delay arrival to the US by 3 days according to National academy of sciences.  No evidence of any American life saved from China travel ban according to John Hopkins center for health security.  Over 30 countries imposed travel bans before Trump in January.  US and Italy implemented travel bans at almost the same time. but both countries still became epicenters of pandemic.


    It wasn't soon enough........however, it appears it was too soon for others ..Joe Biden the Democrat presumptive presidential candidate tweeted about President Trump on the day the China travel restrictions were announced.

    Biden said: “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, and fear-mongering to lead the way instead of science.”....

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 3:40 PM ET #479

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    If Trump is the cause of all the deaths in America, what is the cause of all the deaths in Europe and Asia?

     

    That is, unless all the Chinese coronavirus deaths are Trump’s fault. And don’t be surprised if some of our ChiCom chump media goes there.

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    If Trump is the cause of all the deaths in America, what is the cause of all the deaths in Europe and Asia?

     

    That is, unless all the Chinese coronavirus deaths are Trump’s fault. And don’t be surprised if some of our ChiCom chump media goes there.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 3:41 PM ET #480

    What is the number of Americans who would have died from the Wuhan Flu under President Biden? 

     

    Where is the cut-off between a good outcome and a bad one in terms of mortality? Is it 10,000? 20,000? What’s the number? All we know is that one death is acceptable. If it weren’t, the Dems would have cast off Floatin’ Ted Kennedy the minute he showed up with a neck brace and a martini. 

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    What is the number of Americans who would have died from the Wuhan Flu under President Biden? 

     

    Where is the cut-off between a good outcome and a bad one in terms of mortality? Is it 10,000? 20,000? What’s the number? All we know is that one death is acceptable. If it weren’t, the Dems would have cast off Floatin’ Ted Kennedy the minute he showed up with a neck brace and a martini. 

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 3:42 PM ET #481

    What advice from Dr. Fauci should Trump have ignored in order to stop the virus?

     

    The good doctor, who is no conservative, has been very clear that Donald Trump has carefully listened to him and accepted his guidance throughout. Now, a lot of conservatives might find this to be a bad thing, but liberals are in a tough place. To deny Trump means to deny the doc. To deny Fauci is to deny #science, and their argument must necessarily be that Fauci must be denied since Trump did what he said.

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    What advice from Dr. Fauci should Trump have ignored in order to stop the virus?

     

    The good doctor, who is no conservative, has been very clear that Donald Trump has carefully listened to him and accepted his guidance throughout. Now, a lot of conservatives might find this to be a bad thing, but liberals are in a tough place. To deny Trump means to deny the doc. To deny Fauci is to deny #science, and their argument must necessarily be that Fauci must be denied since Trump did what he said.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 3:43 PM ET #482

    If this disaster was caused by the Trump’s administration being unprepared for the pandemic, what was the date after the Obama administration left office that America stopped being prepared?

     

    We keep hearing about how Trump was not ready for this once-a-century occurrence, but that kind of presumes that Obama was. Negligence requires unreasonable behavior, and if no administration ever bought and stored up 100,000 ventilators, then how was Trump unreasonable for not doing so? So, if Obama was all cocked and locked for the Chinese coronavirus, when did this cocking and locking cease such that America stopped being ready? 

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    If this disaster was caused by the Trump’s administration being unprepared for the pandemic, what was the date after the Obama administration left office that America stopped being prepared?

     

    We keep hearing about how Trump was not ready for this once-a-century occurrence, but that kind of presumes that Obama was. Negligence requires unreasonable behavior, and if no administration ever bought and stored up 100,000 ventilators, then how was Trump unreasonable for not doing so? So, if Obama was all cocked and locked for the Chinese coronavirus, when did this cocking and locking cease such that America stopped being ready? 

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 3:44 PM ET #483

    Would there be fewer unemployed Americans if Biden was president now, or would Biden have locked down tighter and caused more economic pain?

     

    Seems unfair to criticize Trump both for the economic dislocation and contend that he is not economically dislocating us enough.

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    Would there be fewer unemployed Americans if Biden was president now, or would Biden have locked down tighter and caused more economic pain?

     

    Seems unfair to criticize Trump both for the economic dislocation and contend that he is not economically dislocating us enough.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 3:45 PM ET #484

    Would not America be in much worse economic shape if the Trump economy had not been so much better than the economy under Obama and able to absorb this hit?

     

    Just think about how bad it would be if we had started off in the Obama era doldrums.

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    Would not America be in much worse economic shape if the Trump economy had not been so much better than the economy under Obama and able to absorb this hit?

     

    Just think about how bad it would be if we had started off in the Obama era doldrums.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 3:46 PM ET #485

    Is this still the Obama economy, or is it the Trump economy now? What is the date it became the Trump economy and, once this lockdown ends, won’t a successful and strong recovery be all to Trump’s credit?

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    Is this still the Obama economy, or is it the Trump economy now? What is the date it became the Trump economy and, once this lockdown ends, won’t a successful and strong recovery be all to Trump’s credit?

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 3:47 PM ET #486

    If intelligence agencies were warning of the pangolin pneumonia, should Trump have ignored the WHO and American scientists who were saying it was no biggie?

     

    Since the WHO was pushing ChiCom lies, of course he should have ignored that useless grift machine. But will a Democrat ever admit that?

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    If intelligence agencies were warning of the pangolin pneumonia, should Trump have ignored the WHO and American scientists who were saying it was no biggie?

     

    Since the WHO was pushing ChiCom lies, of course he should have ignored that useless grift machine. But will a Democrat ever admit that?

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 3:47 PM ET #487

    What was the name of each Democrat congresscreature and senator who would have supported Trump closing down America during the failed impeachment?

     

    If Trump was supposed to have done something, it’s fair to ask if his opponents would have let him or #resisted, right?

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    What was the name of each Democrat congresscreature and senator who would have supported Trump closing down America during the failed impeachment?

     

    If Trump was supposed to have done something, it’s fair to ask if his opponents would have let him or #resisted, right?

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 4:14 PM ET #488

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Is this still the Obama economy, or is it the Trump economy now? What is the date it became the Trump economy and, once this lockdown ends, won’t a successful and strong recovery be all to Trump’s credit?

    thumbs_up.................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Is this still the Obama economy, or is it the Trump economy now? What is the date it became the Trump economy and, once this lockdown ends, won’t a successful and strong recovery be all to Trump’s credit?

    thumbs_up.................

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 6:20 PM ET #489

    Pelosi in accordance with McConnell,

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Saturday rejected an offer from the Trump administration to provide Congress with rapid results testing...

    "Our country’s testing capacities are continuing to scale up nationwide and Congress wants to keep directing resources to the front-line facilities where they can do the most good the most quickly."

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/02/alex-azar-senate-coronavirus-testing-229926

    Such a rare bipartisan conformity, and it's a good one.

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    Pelosi in accordance with McConnell,

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Saturday rejected an offer from the Trump administration to provide Congress with rapid results testing...

    "Our country’s testing capacities are continuing to scale up nationwide and Congress wants to keep directing resources to the front-line facilities where they can do the most good the most quickly."

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/02/alex-azar-senate-coronavirus-testing-229926

    Such a rare bipartisan conformity, and it's a good one.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2020 - 11:14 PM ET #490

    Trump's purging government watchdogs is a war on accountability.  Recently, he removes an inspector general at health and human services department for writing an accurate report during pandemic.  It reveals widespread shortages of testing supplies and protective equipment put patients and healthcare workers at risk.  But without evidence, Trump claims report is wrong despite it being based on survey of administrators of over 300 hospitals in 50 states.  Grimms has served republican and democrat presidents well for two decades.   Apparently, doing your job well can be career suicide in corrupted Trump administration.  Especially watchdogs who reveal waste, fraud and abuse in government.

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    Trump's purging government watchdogs is a war on accountability.  Recently, he removes an inspector general at health and human services department for writing an accurate report during pandemic.  It reveals widespread shortages of testing supplies and protective equipment put patients and healthcare workers at risk.  But without evidence, Trump claims report is wrong despite it being based on survey of administrators of over 300 hospitals in 50 states.  Grimms has served republican and democrat presidents well for two decades.   Apparently, doing your job well can be career suicide in corrupted Trump administration.  Especially watchdogs who reveal waste, fraud and abuse in government.

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2020 - 10:30 AM ET #491

    It's not fair Biden can have his Sally's and Trump can't seeing only up to 10 can gather in a place... surprised

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    It's not fair Biden can have his Sally's and Trump can't seeing only up to 10 can gather in a place... surprised

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2020 - 10:31 AM ET #492

    Biden rally should be within the guidelines

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    Biden rally should be within the guidelines

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2020 - 11:18 AM ET #493

    In a crisis, true leaders stand out.  Unlike Trump, most world leaders see double digit surges in approval ratings for their handling of pandemic.  According to Morning consult, Trump dismal approval rating has been flat and compares poorly against past presidents who normally benefit from times of crisis.  Instead Americans are rallying behind governors and mayors who are doing a better job.  Obviously, divisive Trump is temperamentally unfit for a crisis that demands unity and solidarity.  After slumping polls, he threatens to sue his campaign manager.

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    In a crisis, true leaders stand out.  Unlike Trump, most world leaders see double digit surges in approval ratings for their handling of pandemic.  According to Morning consult, Trump dismal approval rating has been flat and compares poorly against past presidents who normally benefit from times of crisis.  Instead Americans are rallying behind governors and mayors who are doing a better job.  Obviously, divisive Trump is temperamentally unfit for a crisis that demands unity and solidarity.  After slumping polls, he threatens to sue his campaign manager.

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2020 - 1:28 PM ET #494

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump's purging government watchdogs is a war on accountability.  Recently, he removes an inspector general at health and human services department for writing an accurate report during pandemic.  It reveals widespread shortages of testing supplies and protective equipment put patients and healthcare workers at risk.  But without evidence, Trump claims report is wrong despite it being based on survey of administrators of over 300 hospitals in 50 states.  Grimms has served republican and democrat presidents well for two decades.   Apparently, doing your job well can be career suicide in corrupted Trump administration.  Especially watchdogs who reveal waste, fraud and abuse in government.

    She was a deep state Obama hold over ...and as stated by Dr. Anthony Fauci who is the coronavirus task force's leading expert in infectious disease, he said this is not the President's fault in any way and that this would have happened regardless of who was president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump's purging government watchdogs is a war on accountability.  Recently, he removes an inspector general at health and human services department for writing an accurate report during pandemic.  It reveals widespread shortages of testing supplies and protective equipment put patients and healthcare workers at risk.  But without evidence, Trump claims report is wrong despite it being based on survey of administrators of over 300 hospitals in 50 states.  Grimms has served republican and democrat presidents well for two decades.   Apparently, doing your job well can be career suicide in corrupted Trump administration.  Especially watchdogs who reveal waste, fraud and abuse in government.

    She was a deep state Obama hold over ...and as stated by Dr. Anthony Fauci who is the coronavirus task force's leading expert in infectious disease, he said this is not the President's fault in any way and that this would have happened regardless of who was president.

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2020 - 1:51 PM ET #495

    I don't know of anyone who said the disease is Trump's fault.

    But his initial disregard and subsequent handling has been an absolute national disaster.

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    I don't know of anyone who said the disease is Trump's fault.

    But his initial disregard and subsequent handling has been an absolute national disaster.

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2020 - 2:24 PM ET #496

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I don't know of anyone who said the disease is Trump's fault. But his initial disregard and subsequent handling has been an absolute national disaster.

    Dr Fauci, was responding to the IG report about the shortage ,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I don't know of anyone who said the disease is Trump's fault. But his initial disregard and subsequent handling has been an absolute national disaster.

    Dr Fauci, was responding to the IG report about the shortage ,,,

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2020 - 7:05 PM ET #497

    Can anyone explain why in the midst of 30m people unemployed or under-employed, the government isn’t hiring and training MILLIONS to do Tracking/Tracing, Caring/Supporting at risk populations and sanitation work?

    Now is a great time to train/pay stay at home parents/caregivers as well. Governors should be leading the way.

    It doesn't seem like anyone has a plan.

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    Can anyone explain why in the midst of 30m people unemployed or under-employed, the government isn’t hiring and training MILLIONS to do Tracking/Tracing, Caring/Supporting at risk populations and sanitation work?

    Now is a great time to train/pay stay at home parents/caregivers as well. Governors should be leading the way.

    It doesn't seem like anyone has a plan.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump administration failed to ban travel early from Europe to slow spread of coronavirus according to US center for disease control.  This delay accelerate spread of infection as almost 2 million travellers arrived from Europe in February.   Trump's travel bans are useless in preventing New York from becoming epicenter of pandemic in the US.  History of past outbreaks show travel bans are ineffective in stopping spread of infection according to World health organization.  Travel bans are too late when local community transmission is already widespread.  China travel ban only delay arrival to the US by 3 days according to National academy of sciences.  No evidence of any American life saved from China travel ban according to John Hopkins center for health security.  Over 30 countries imposed travel bans before Trump in January.  US and Italy implemented travel bans at almost the same time. but both countries still became epicenters of pandemic. It wasn't soon enough........however, it appears it was too soon for others ..Joe Biden the Democrat presumptive presidential candidate tweeted about President Trump on the day the China travel restrictions were announced. Biden said: “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, and fear-mongering to lead the way instead of science.”....

    Third - you insist the travel bans were useless. This is such a stupid comment - Do you forget it was trump who instituted the travel ban against Italy.

              This is at the same time the democratic congress were screaming it was racist (Laughable) and Pelosi wants to dance in the streets while

              claiming the Virus is not going  be serious. He literally saved lives a month ahead of time from your party's lack of concern. When would have

              been the timing if you were in charge. Guarantee it wouldn't have been before Trump acted. You need to get off that Trump didn't act quick

             enuf versus when the Dem's would have responded. GET THE POINT - This is according to the "Common Sense Committee of America." It is

             law if it is "according to someone, correct?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Trump administration failed to ban travel early from Europe to slow spread of coronavirus according to US center for disease control.  This delay accelerate spread of infection as almost 2 million travellers arrived from Europe in February.   Trump's travel bans are useless in preventing New York from becoming epicenter of pandemic in the US.  History of past outbreaks show travel bans are ineffective in stopping spread of infection according to World health organization.  Travel bans are too late when local community transmission is already widespread.  China travel ban only delay arrival to the US by 3 days according to National academy of sciences.  No evidence of any American life saved from China travel ban according to John Hopkins center for health security.  Over 30 countries imposed travel bans before Trump in January.  US and Italy implemented travel bans at almost the same time. but both countries still became epicenters of pandemic. It wasn't soon enough........however, it appears it was too soon for others ..Joe Biden the Democrat presumptive presidential candidate tweeted about President Trump on the day the China travel restrictions were announced. Biden said: “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, and fear-mongering to lead the way instead of science.”....

    Third - you insist the travel bans were useless. This is such a stupid comment - Do you forget it was trump who instituted the travel ban against Italy.

              This is at the same time the democratic congress were screaming it was racist (Laughable) and Pelosi wants to dance in the streets while

              claiming the Virus is not going  be serious. He literally saved lives a month ahead of time from your party's lack of concern. When would have

              been the timing if you were in charge. Guarantee it wouldn't have been before Trump acted. You need to get off that Trump didn't act quick

             enuf versus when the Dem's would have responded. GET THE POINT - This is according to the "Common Sense Committee of America." It is

             law if it is "according to someone, correct?"

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2020 - 8:41 PM ET #499

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Can anyone explain why in the midst of 30m people unemployed or under-employed, the government isn’t hiring and training MILLIONS to do Tracking/Tracing, Caring/Supporting at risk populations and sanitation work? Now is a great time to train/pay stay at home parents/caregivers as well. Governors should be leading the way. It doesn't seem like anyone has a plan.

    This is a great suggesting,,,,,I see States starting to hire contact tracing people...

    https://www.routefifty.com/health-human-services/2020/04/states-start-hire-new-contact-tracing-workforce-contain-covid-19/164726/

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Can anyone explain why in the midst of 30m people unemployed or under-employed, the government isn’t hiring and training MILLIONS to do Tracking/Tracing, Caring/Supporting at risk populations and sanitation work? Now is a great time to train/pay stay at home parents/caregivers as well. Governors should be leading the way. It doesn't seem like anyone has a plan.

    This is a great suggesting,,,,,I see States starting to hire contact tracing people...

    https://www.routefifty.com/health-human-services/2020/04/states-start-hire-new-contact-tracing-workforce-contain-covid-19/164726/

     

     

     
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2020 - 9:04 PM ET #500

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Can anyone explain why in the midst of 30m people unemployed or under-employed, the government isn’t hiring and training MILLIONS to do Tracking/Tracing, Caring/Supporting at risk populations and sanitation work? Now is a great time to train/pay stay at home parents/caregivers as well. Governors should be leading the way. It doesn't seem like anyone has a plan.

    This is what Bill Clinton is pushing for....  Tell me your kidding Midnight.....if not, where does this Surveillance lead to after it's introduction?  A Gestapo type force??

    OMG....A Social Credit System  -  A Tattoo with proof of Vaccine too??  

    If You want to know what is planned for the west in the future....look at China now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Can anyone explain why in the midst of 30m people unemployed or under-employed, the government isn’t hiring and training MILLIONS to do Tracking/Tracing, Caring/Supporting at risk populations and sanitation work? Now is a great time to train/pay stay at home parents/caregivers as well. Governors should be leading the way. It doesn't seem like anyone has a plan.

    This is what Bill Clinton is pushing for....  Tell me your kidding Midnight.....if not, where does this Surveillance lead to after it's introduction?  A Gestapo type force??

    OMG....A Social Credit System  -  A Tattoo with proof of Vaccine too??  

    If You want to know what is planned for the west in the future....look at China now.

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