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    Posted: May. 28, 2023 - 9:16 AM ET #4651

    Yahoo news report Trump and DeSantis arguing over who did worse during the pandemic.  Trump says New York outperformed Florida.  Whereas DeSantis says doctor Fauci should have been fired early although Trump has a bad habit of ignoring experts advice.  From a public health perspective, neither Trump nor DeSantis did a good job of protecting population.  Both put people at risk for the sake of politics.   In general, democrat states had lower rates of covid deaths while republican states had the highest rates.

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    Yahoo news report Trump and DeSantis arguing over who did worse during the pandemic.  Trump says New York outperformed Florida.  Whereas DeSantis says doctor Fauci should have been fired early although Trump has a bad habit of ignoring experts advice.  From a public health perspective, neither Trump nor DeSantis did a good job of protecting population.  Both put people at risk for the sake of politics.   In general, democrat states had lower rates of covid deaths while republican states had the highest rates.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2023 - 11:08 AM ET #4652

     

    "According to multiple U.S. government officials interviewed as part of a lengthy investigation by Public and Racket, the first people infected by the virus, ‘patients zero,’ included Ben Hu, a researcher who led the WIV’s ‘gain-of-function' research on SARS-like coronaviruses, which increases the infectiousness of viruses," 

    "Sources within the U.S. government say that three of the earliest people to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 were Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu. All were members of the Wuhan lab suspected to have leaked the pandemic virus,"

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    "According to multiple U.S. government officials interviewed as part of a lengthy investigation by Public and Racket, the first people infected by the virus, ‘patients zero,’ included Ben Hu, a researcher who led the WIV’s ‘gain-of-function' research on SARS-like coronaviruses, which increases the infectiousness of viruses," 

    "Sources within the U.S. government say that three of the earliest people to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 were Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu. All were members of the Wuhan lab suspected to have leaked the pandemic virus,"

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2023 - 11:32 AM ET #4653

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    "According to multiple U.S. government officials interviewed as part of a lengthy investigation by Public and Racket, the first people infected by the virus, ‘patients zero,’ included Ben Hu, a researcher who led the WIV’s ‘gain-of-function' research on SARS-like coronaviruses, which increases the infectiousness of viruses,"  "Sources within the U.S. government say that three of the earliest people to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 were Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu. All were members of the Wuhan lab suspected to have leaked the pandemic virus,"

     

    shhh you can't tell people the truths. People hate the truths and want to believe this came from a bat, they want to believe that my vax protects you, that 2 masks are better than 1 and that inflation is coming down and the economy is fineeeee

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    "According to multiple U.S. government officials interviewed as part of a lengthy investigation by Public and Racket, the first people infected by the virus, ‘patients zero,’ included Ben Hu, a researcher who led the WIV’s ‘gain-of-function' research on SARS-like coronaviruses, which increases the infectiousness of viruses,"  "Sources within the U.S. government say that three of the earliest people to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 were Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu. All were members of the Wuhan lab suspected to have leaked the pandemic virus,"

     

    shhh you can't tell people the truths. People hate the truths and want to believe this came from a bat, they want to believe that my vax protects you, that 2 masks are better than 1 and that inflation is coming down and the economy is fineeeee

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2023 - 12:19 PM ET #4654

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     FED day an_light

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     FED day an_light

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2023 - 12:20 PM ET #4655

    I’m picking up your sarcasm peace_5

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    I’m picking up your sarcasm peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2023 - 1:03 PM ET #4656

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     Don't worry, it will be shushed. Major media will bury it just like they've always done. It will only become public when it benefits the current admin. Sort of like "bounties on US troops in Afghanistan".

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    @BigGame90

     Don't worry, it will be shushed. Major media will bury it just like they've always done. It will only become public when it benefits the current admin. Sort of like "bounties on US troops in Afghanistan".

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2023 - 1:09 AM ET #4657

    Controversial Rogan show is known for promoting misinformation about covid and vaccines.  But scientist Hotez reveals that over 200,000 Americans have died needlessly because they believed misinformation and refused vaccination.  Now Rogan wants to lure Hotez to a debate with infamous anti-vaxxer Robert Kennedy Jr.  Hotez offers to have a discussion on Rogan show but rejects a debate which can turn into a Jerry Springer farce.  Typically, scientists don't debate but write research papers to present to peers for review. 

    Experts on disinformation say you can't challenge propagandists by debating them because they are bad faith actors who keep lying faster than you can debunk lies.  For example, Trump.  Also debates are about rhetoric more than facts.  Smartest immunologist could enter into a debate with a quack lawyer.  But  argument won't convince audience of anti-vaxxers who don't want to be convinced.  It's a no win situation.  Best way not to lose is not to play.

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    Controversial Rogan show is known for promoting misinformation about covid and vaccines.  But scientist Hotez reveals that over 200,000 Americans have died needlessly because they believed misinformation and refused vaccination.  Now Rogan wants to lure Hotez to a debate with infamous anti-vaxxer Robert Kennedy Jr.  Hotez offers to have a discussion on Rogan show but rejects a debate which can turn into a Jerry Springer farce.  Typically, scientists don't debate but write research papers to present to peers for review. 

    Experts on disinformation say you can't challenge propagandists by debating them because they are bad faith actors who keep lying faster than you can debunk lies.  For example, Trump.  Also debates are about rhetoric more than facts.  Smartest immunologist could enter into a debate with a quack lawyer.  But  argument won't convince audience of anti-vaxxers who don't want to be convinced.  It's a no win situation.  Best way not to lose is not to play.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2023 - 1:42 AM ET #4658

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Controversial Rogan show is known for promoting misinformation about covid and vaccines.  But scientist Hotez reveals that over 200,000 Americans have died needlessly because they believed misinformation and refused vaccination.  Now Rogan wants to lure Hotez to a debate with infamous anti-vaxxer Robert Kennedy Jr.  Hotez offers to have a discussion on Rogan show but rejects a debate which can turn into a Jerry Springer farce.  Typically, scientists don't debate but write research papers to present to peers for review.  Experts on disinformation say you can't challenge propagandists by debating them because they are bad faith actors who keep lying faster than you can debunk lies.  For example, Trump.  Also debates are about rhetoric more than facts.  Smartest immunologist could enter into a debate with a quack lawyer.  But  argument won't convince audience of anti-vaxxers who don't want to be convinced.  It's a no win situation.  Best way not to lose is not to play.

    Yeah, we have noticed you lefties on this site choose not to debate as well.. except Wall.. 

    Perfectly stated  !! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Controversial Rogan show is known for promoting misinformation about covid and vaccines.  But scientist Hotez reveals that over 200,000 Americans have died needlessly because they believed misinformation and refused vaccination.  Now Rogan wants to lure Hotez to a debate with infamous anti-vaxxer Robert Kennedy Jr.  Hotez offers to have a discussion on Rogan show but rejects a debate which can turn into a Jerry Springer farce.  Typically, scientists don't debate but write research papers to present to peers for review.  Experts on disinformation say you can't challenge propagandists by debating them because they are bad faith actors who keep lying faster than you can debunk lies.  For example, Trump.  Also debates are about rhetoric more than facts.  Smartest immunologist could enter into a debate with a quack lawyer.  But  argument won't convince audience of anti-vaxxers who don't want to be convinced.  It's a no win situation.  Best way not to lose is not to play.

    Yeah, we have noticed you lefties on this site choose not to debate as well.. except Wall.. 

    Perfectly stated  !! 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2023 - 1:07 AM ET #4659

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    "Sources within the U.S. government say that three of the earliest people to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 were members of the Wuhan lab suspected to have leaked the pandemic virus,"

    US intelligence reports government agencies remain divided with most favoring natural origin of pandemic as most plausible.  No information shows genetic engineering involving SARS-covid 2 or a closely related virus.  Old reports of lab researchers sick are inconclusive.  Their symptoms could have been caused by other diseases and some symptoms aren't consistent with covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    "Sources within the U.S. government say that three of the earliest people to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 were members of the Wuhan lab suspected to have leaked the pandemic virus,"

    US intelligence reports government agencies remain divided with most favoring natural origin of pandemic as most plausible.  No information shows genetic engineering involving SARS-covid 2 or a closely related virus.  Old reports of lab researchers sick are inconclusive.  Their symptoms could have been caused by other diseases and some symptoms aren't consistent with covid.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2023 - 7:24 AM ET #4660

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Controversial Rogan show is known for promoting misinformation about covid and vaccines.  But scientist Hotez reveals that over 200,000 Americans have died needlessly because they believed misinformation and refused vaccination.  Now Rogan wants to lure Hotez to a debate with infamous anti-vaxxer Robert Kennedy Jr.  Hotez offers to have a discussion on Rogan show but rejects a debate which can turn into a Jerry Springer farce.  Typically, scientists don't debate but write research papers to present to peers for review.  Experts on disinformation say you can't challenge propagandists by debating them because they are bad faith actors who keep lying faster than you can debunk lies.  For example, Trump.  Also debates are about rhetoric more than facts.  Smartest immunologist could enter into a debate with a quack lawyer.  But  argument won't convince audience of anti-vaxxers who don't want to be convinced.  It's a no win situation.  Best way not to lose is not to play. Yeah, we have noticed you lefties on this site choose not to debate as well.. except Wall..  Perfectly stated  !!

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Controversial Rogan show is known for promoting misinformation about covid and vaccines.  But scientist Hotez reveals that over 200,000 Americans have died needlessly because they believed misinformation and refused vaccination.  Now Rogan wants to lure Hotez to a debate with infamous anti-vaxxer Robert Kennedy Jr.  Hotez offers to have a discussion on Rogan show but rejects a debate which can turn into a Jerry Springer farce.  Typically, scientists don't debate but write research papers to present to peers for review.  Experts on disinformation say you can't challenge propagandists by debating them because they are bad faith actors who keep lying faster than you can debunk lies.  For example, Trump.  Also debates are about rhetoric more than facts.  Smartest immunologist could enter into a debate with a quack lawyer.  But  argument won't convince audience of anti-vaxxers who don't want to be convinced.  It's a no win situation.  Best way not to lose is not to play. Yeah, we have noticed you lefties on this site choose not to debate as well.. except Wall..  Perfectly stated  !!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2023 - 3:18 PM ET #4661

    LA times dispute DeSantis claims about pandemic lockdowns in GOP debate.   First, lockdowns worked in 2020 before vaccines became available.  Without lockdowns, overwhelmed hospitals would have fared worse.  If all schools remained open, more people would be infected.  Secondly, myth is that children are immune to covid.  According to Center for disease control, over 2300 children died from covid in the US.  Third, myth is that school closures are responsible for declines in school test scores.  But national test scores reveal Florida kids lost more ground in reading and mathematics than California kids.   One reason may be that Florida ranks worst among states in per capita number of children who lost parents to covid.  Florida covid death rate is 10th worst.  Other states with higher percentage of seniors have lower covid death rates.

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    LA times dispute DeSantis claims about pandemic lockdowns in GOP debate.   First, lockdowns worked in 2020 before vaccines became available.  Without lockdowns, overwhelmed hospitals would have fared worse.  If all schools remained open, more people would be infected.  Secondly, myth is that children are immune to covid.  According to Center for disease control, over 2300 children died from covid in the US.  Third, myth is that school closures are responsible for declines in school test scores.  But national test scores reveal Florida kids lost more ground in reading and mathematics than California kids.   One reason may be that Florida ranks worst among states in per capita number of children who lost parents to covid.  Florida covid death rate is 10th worst.  Other states with higher percentage of seniors have lower covid death rates.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2023 - 3:58 PM ET #4662

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     Nonsense. peace_5

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     Nonsense. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2023 - 3:59 PM ET #4663

    1. How did COVID-19 age-adjusted death rates for adults aged 65 and over vary by state in 2020?

      • ?  Among the 50 states and the District of Columbia (D.C.), age-adjusted COVID-19 death rates in the population aged 65 and over ranged from 90.5 in Hawaii to 872.0 in New Jersey. The average U.S. rate was 533.5 (Figure 3).

      • ?  The states with the highest COVID-19 age-adjusted death rates for adults aged 65 and over in 2020 were New Jersey (872.0), South Dakota (844.5), North Dakota (834.3), New York (831.9), Connecticut (772.8), and Rhode Island (729.1).

      • ?  The states with the lowest COVID-19 age-adjusted death rates for adults aged 65 and over were Hawaii (90.5), Vermont (113.9), Maine (142.8), Oregon (170.8), Alaska (234.1), and Washington (242.3).

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    1. How did COVID-19 age-adjusted death rates for adults aged 65 and over vary by state in 2020?

      • ?  Among the 50 states and the District of Columbia (D.C.), age-adjusted COVID-19 death rates in the population aged 65 and over ranged from 90.5 in Hawaii to 872.0 in New Jersey. The average U.S. rate was 533.5 (Figure 3).

      • ?  The states with the highest COVID-19 age-adjusted death rates for adults aged 65 and over in 2020 were New Jersey (872.0), South Dakota (844.5), North Dakota (834.3), New York (831.9), Connecticut (772.8), and Rhode Island (729.1).

      • ?  The states with the lowest COVID-19 age-adjusted death rates for adults aged 65 and over were Hawaii (90.5), Vermont (113.9), Maine (142.8), Oregon (170.8), Alaska (234.1), and Washington (242.3).

     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2023 - 4:01 PM ET #4664

    Florida was 342.7    Way below the average and among the lowest states, according to the CDC site. peace_5

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    Florida was 342.7    Way below the average and among the lowest states, according to the CDC site. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2023 - 4:03 PM ET #4665

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     No states have a 'higher percentage of seniors' than Florida does.  Maine and West Virginia are close -- but Florida still has the most. an_light

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     No states have a 'higher percentage of seniors' than Florida does.  Maine and West Virginia are close -- but Florida still has the most. an_light

     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2023 - 4:50 PM ET #4666

    Most states have lower age-adjusted covid death rates than Florida according to latest data from Center for disease control.  Old states such as Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont have lower rates.  Even densely populated California, New Jersey and New York have lower rates.  Disturbing that most of Florida covid deaths occurred after vaccines became widely available.  Yale study found republican states tend to have higher covid death rates.  Politicization of the pandemic has consequences.

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    Most states have lower age-adjusted covid death rates than Florida according to latest data from Center for disease control.  Old states such as Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont have lower rates.  Even densely populated California, New Jersey and New York have lower rates.  Disturbing that most of Florida covid deaths occurred after vaccines became widely available.  Yale study found republican states tend to have higher covid death rates.  Politicization of the pandemic has consequences.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2023 - 4:53 PM ET #4667

    They don’t.  I just quoted you the numbers directly from their site from when they first released them.  

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    They don’t.  I just quoted you the numbers directly from their site from when they first released them.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Most states have lower age-adjusted covid death rates than Florida according to latest data from Center for disease control.  Old states such as Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont have lower rates.  Even densely populated California, New Jersey and New York have lower rates.  Disturbing that most of Florida covid deaths occurred after vaccines became widely available.  Yale study found republican states tend to have higher covid death rates.  Politicization of the pandemic has consequences.

    Absolutely.  This is exactly what you are doing when you come in here and state things that are untrue just to drive your Pro-Leftist narrative.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Most states have lower age-adjusted covid death rates than Florida according to latest data from Center for disease control.  Old states such as Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont have lower rates.  Even densely populated California, New Jersey and New York have lower rates.  Disturbing that most of Florida covid deaths occurred after vaccines became widely available.  Yale study found republican states tend to have higher covid death rates.  Politicization of the pandemic has consequences.

    Absolutely.  This is exactly what you are doing when you come in here and state things that are untrue just to drive your Pro-Leftist narrative.  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2023 - 5:11 PM ET #4669

    @thirdperson

     Secondly, myth is that children are immune to covid. 

    Name any reputable source that says children are immune to it.  

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    @thirdperson

     Secondly, myth is that children are immune to covid. 

    Name any reputable source that says children are immune to it.  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2023 - 5:57 PM ET #4670

    @Raiders22

     I think post 4661 made me dumbereran_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

    All I can think of is the end of Billy Madison an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

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    @Raiders22

     I think post 4661 made me dumbereran_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

    All I can think of is the end of Billy Madison an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    LA times dispute DeSantis claims about pandemic lockdowns in GOP debate.   First, lockdowns worked in 2020 before vaccines became available.  Without lockdowns, overwhelmed hospitals would have fared worse.  If all schools remained open, more people would be infected.  

    LA TIMES  an_clap

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    LA times dispute DeSantis claims about pandemic lockdowns in GOP debate.   First, lockdowns worked in 2020 before vaccines became available.  Without lockdowns, overwhelmed hospitals would have fared worse.  If all schools remained open, more people would be infected.  

    LA TIMES  an_clap

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @Raiders22  I think post 4661 made me dumberer   All I can think of is the end of Billy Madison

    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @Raiders22  I think post 4661 made me dumberer   All I can think of is the end of Billy Madison

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: LA times dispute DeSantis claims about pandemic lockdowns in GOP debate.   First, lockdowns worked in 2020 before vaccines became available.  Without lockdowns, overwhelmed hospitals would have fared worse.  If all schools remained open, more people would be infected.  

     

    LA TIMES an_clap

     

    peace_5

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: LA times dispute DeSantis claims about pandemic lockdowns in GOP debate.   First, lockdowns worked in 2020 before vaccines became available.  Without lockdowns, overwhelmed hospitals would have fared worse.  If all schools remained open, more people would be infected.  

     

    LA TIMES an_clap

     

    peace_5

     

     
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    Are the fringe Lefties on Covers replenishing their mask supply for the upcoming covid crisis? (LOL at this) The link below says it all. Do not comply with the possible upcoming medical tyranny from our very illegitimate administration. Here you go!

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    Are the fringe Lefties on Covers replenishing their mask supply for the upcoming covid crisis? (LOL at this) The link below says it all. Do not comply with the possible upcoming medical tyranny from our very illegitimate administration. Here you go!

    1stfJdpR397e.png (1080×1275) (patriots.win)

     
     
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