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    SarasotaSlim
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 1:25 AM ET #326

    Even Major League Baseball wants to come to Arizona..

    MLB really wants to open the season next month in Arizona...Games would be played without fans..The season would be played in spring training ballparks,as well as other sites around Phoenix. In order to minimize risk of infection, however, players would live in isolation, traveling only between hotels and ballparks.

    America needs Baseball about now...

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    Even Major League Baseball wants to come to Arizona..

    MLB really wants to open the season next month in Arizona...Games would be played without fans..The season would be played in spring training ballparks,as well as other sites around Phoenix. In order to minimize risk of infection, however, players would live in isolation, traveling only between hotels and ballparks.

    America needs Baseball about now...

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 5:10 AM ET #327

    You ain't kidding 'Slim.  ..peace_5

    (Is a handshake appropriate in these times ? Lol. )

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    You ain't kidding 'Slim.  ..peace_5

    (Is a handshake appropriate in these times ? Lol. )

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 6:16 AM ET #328

    peace_5an_shake..................an_cheers

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    peace_5an_shake..................an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 11:26 AM ET #329

    People buying toys & TV's without paychecks isn't very smart. These same farkers will be 1st in line for food & free money.  

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    People buying toys & TV's without paychecks isn't very smart. These same farkers will be 1st in line for food & free money.  

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 11:50 AM ET #330

    “Satan and a virus will not stop us,” said the Reverend Tony Spell, 42, pastor of the evangelical Life Tabernacle Church near Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He expects a crowd of more than 2,000 to gather in worship at his megachurch on Sunday.

    Reckless & irresponsible. The reverend is looking at a big Easter haul while jeopardizing his flock of morons.

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    “Satan and a virus will not stop us,” said the Reverend Tony Spell, 42, pastor of the evangelical Life Tabernacle Church near Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He expects a crowd of more than 2,000 to gather in worship at his megachurch on Sunday.

    Reckless & irresponsible. The reverend is looking at a big Easter haul while jeopardizing his flock of morons.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 2:32 PM ET #331

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    “Satan and a virus will not stop us,” said the Reverend Tony Spell, 42, pastor of the evangelical Life Tabernacle Church near Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He expects a crowd of more than 2,000 to gather in worship at his megachurch on Sunday. Reckless & irresponsible. The reverend is looking at a big Easter haul while jeopardizing his flock of morons.

    Have you noticed none of the MAGAvangelicals have theorized that God sent a plague against America for worshippin' a corrupt, immoral man as a deity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    “Satan and a virus will not stop us,” said the Reverend Tony Spell, 42, pastor of the evangelical Life Tabernacle Church near Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He expects a crowd of more than 2,000 to gather in worship at his megachurch on Sunday. Reckless & irresponsible. The reverend is looking at a big Easter haul while jeopardizing his flock of morons.

    Have you noticed none of the MAGAvangelicals have theorized that God sent a plague against America for worshippin' a corrupt, immoral man as a deity?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 6:15 PM ET #332

    Only 12% of Italy’s patients reported as dying from Cov-19 died from it directly

     

    Of the 47,000 people who have coronavirus in Italy, over 4,000 have died, with 627 dying in 24 hours from the 19th to the 20th. There are interesting reasons for that. One is their population is aging, and another is 88% of them didn’t die directly from coronavirus although they tested positive for it according to a Telegraph report.

    Doctors automatically record everyone with coronavirus who died as dying from it although they might have been dying from something else.

    That could be a tough call, however, if a patient’s lungs fill up with fluid due to the virus and the patient with a bad heart has a heart attack, what killed the patient?

    Italy has an 8% death rate while Germany’s is just .3%. Italy’s death rate is almost twice that of China’s.

    The reasons for this might be twofold. The average age of patients in Italy is 67 while in China, it is 47. Secondly, everyone who dies with coronavirus, even if coronavirus isn’t the cause, is recorded as having died of coronavirus.

    In fact, only 12% of the patients who are listed as dying from coronavirus died directly from coronavirus.

    THE TELEGRAPH REPORT

    According to Prof Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health, the country’s mortality rate is far higher due to demographics – the nation has the second oldest population worldwide – and the manner in which hospitals record deaths.

    “The age of our patients in hospitals is substantially older – the median is 67, while in China it was 46,” Prof Ricciardi says. “So essentially the age distribution of our patients is squeezed to an older age and this is substantial in increasing the lethality.”

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    Only 12% of Italy’s patients reported as dying from Cov-19 died from it directly

     

    Of the 47,000 people who have coronavirus in Italy, over 4,000 have died, with 627 dying in 24 hours from the 19th to the 20th. There are interesting reasons for that. One is their population is aging, and another is 88% of them didn’t die directly from coronavirus although they tested positive for it according to a Telegraph report.

    Doctors automatically record everyone with coronavirus who died as dying from it although they might have been dying from something else.

    That could be a tough call, however, if a patient’s lungs fill up with fluid due to the virus and the patient with a bad heart has a heart attack, what killed the patient?

    Italy has an 8% death rate while Germany’s is just .3%. Italy’s death rate is almost twice that of China’s.

    The reasons for this might be twofold. The average age of patients in Italy is 67 while in China, it is 47. Secondly, everyone who dies with coronavirus, even if coronavirus isn’t the cause, is recorded as having died of coronavirus.

    In fact, only 12% of the patients who are listed as dying from coronavirus died directly from coronavirus.

    THE TELEGRAPH REPORT

    According to Prof Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health, the country’s mortality rate is far higher due to demographics – the nation has the second oldest population worldwide – and the manner in which hospitals record deaths.

    “The age of our patients in hospitals is substantially older – the median is 67, while in China it was 46,” Prof Ricciardi says. “So essentially the age distribution of our patients is squeezed to an older age and this is substantial in increasing the lethality.”

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 6:18 PM ET #333

    A study in JAMA this week found that almost 40 per cent of infections and 87 per cent of deaths in the country have been in patients over 70 years old.

    But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.

    ONLY 12%

    “The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

    On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,” he says.

    Other experts have also expressed scepticism about the available data. Martin McKee, professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, says that countries do not yet have a good indication of how many mild infections they have.

    If further testing finds more asymptomatic cases spreading undetected, the mortality rate will drop.

    OTHER FACTORS

    There are other factors including the high rate of smoking and the serious pollution problem.

    Most of the deaths were in the Lombardy region which has terrible air quality.

    Also, Italy’s health system have been overwhelmed with a surge of coronavirus patients and are struggling to cope.

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    A study in JAMA this week found that almost 40 per cent of infections and 87 per cent of deaths in the country have been in patients over 70 years old.

    But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.

    ONLY 12%

    “The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

    On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,” he says.

    Other experts have also expressed scepticism about the available data. Martin McKee, professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, says that countries do not yet have a good indication of how many mild infections they have.

    If further testing finds more asymptomatic cases spreading undetected, the mortality rate will drop.

    OTHER FACTORS

    There are other factors including the high rate of smoking and the serious pollution problem.

    Most of the deaths were in the Lombardy region which has terrible air quality.

    Also, Italy’s health system have been overwhelmed with a surge of coronavirus patients and are struggling to cope.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 6:19 PM ET #334

    “Doctors in Italy haven’t been dealing with one or two patients in care… but up to 1,200,” says Dr Mike Ryan, health emergencies programme executive director at the World Health Organization. “The fact they’re saving so many is a small miracle in itself.”

    This pressure is likely to get worse as more healthcare workers are infected and have to isolate – already, 2,000 have contracted the virus in Italy.

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    “Doctors in Italy haven’t been dealing with one or two patients in care… but up to 1,200,” says Dr Mike Ryan, health emergencies programme executive director at the World Health Organization. “The fact they’re saving so many is a small miracle in itself.”

    This pressure is likely to get worse as more healthcare workers are infected and have to isolate – already, 2,000 have contracted the virus in Italy.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 7:30 PM ET #335

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    I bet DARKHOSE wasn't expecting such an informed response from you SUNDANCE.   It's ok to thank your fellow covers members DARKHOSE.

    I would expect it from sundance before I would expect a somewhat intelligent response from you.an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    I bet DARKHOSE wasn't expecting such an informed response from you SUNDANCE.   It's ok to thank your fellow covers members DARKHOSE.

    I would expect it from sundance before I would expect a somewhat intelligent response from you.an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 7:36 PM ET #336

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating.

    There is no clinical proof that zinc keeps the covid 19 cells from reproducing.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating.

    There is no clinical proof that zinc keeps the covid 19 cells from reproducing.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 7:55 PM ET #337

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating. There is no clinical proof that zinc keeps the covid 19 cells from reproducing.

    Also,

    French officials report heart incidents in experimental coronavirus treatments with hydroxychloroquine

    Source: VOX

    Touting a medication without FDA approval is mind boggling to the least. And it appears prevailing by Donald J Trump and his base, dangerous and irresponsible practice.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating. There is no clinical proof that zinc keeps the covid 19 cells from reproducing.

    Also,

    French officials report heart incidents in experimental coronavirus treatments with hydroxychloroquine

    Source: VOX

    Touting a medication without FDA approval is mind boggling to the least. And it appears prevailing by Donald J Trump and his base, dangerous and irresponsible practice.   

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 10:04 PM ET #338

    I truly believe it is dangerous and irresponsible not to educate people on how zinc and vitamin c can help people increase their immunity for the prevention of the coronavirus.

    On a personal note. I have stocked up on zinc and vitamin c and use daily. Also. I bought Schweppes tonic water yesterday and placed an order tonight for Leg Cramp Tablets by Hilands. Each of these products have quinine. The scientific name for quinine is cinchona officinalis. The bottle for Leg Cramps by Hilands will use the scientific name for quinine. 

    Dr Oz had the medical community run records on 14 000 lupus patients. The drug of choice for lupus is hydroxychloroquine. Not 1 of the 14 000 lupus patients has contracted coronavirus! That is more than anecdotal.

    It is up to me to be ready just in case I need to help myself or somebody in my family.

    I can not help myself.

    You will feel fine after drinking the quinine!

     

     

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    I truly believe it is dangerous and irresponsible not to educate people on how zinc and vitamin c can help people increase their immunity for the prevention of the coronavirus.

    On a personal note. I have stocked up on zinc and vitamin c and use daily. Also. I bought Schweppes tonic water yesterday and placed an order tonight for Leg Cramp Tablets by Hilands. Each of these products have quinine. The scientific name for quinine is cinchona officinalis. The bottle for Leg Cramps by Hilands will use the scientific name for quinine. 

    Dr Oz had the medical community run records on 14 000 lupus patients. The drug of choice for lupus is hydroxychloroquine. Not 1 of the 14 000 lupus patients has contracted coronavirus! That is more than anecdotal.

    It is up to me to be ready just in case I need to help myself or somebody in my family.

    I can not help myself.

    You will feel fine after drinking the quinine!

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 10:31 PM ET #339

    Gin & Tonic..

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    Gin & Tonic..

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 10:35 PM ET #340

    Cheers!

    an_cheers

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    Cheers!

    an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2020 - 11:12 PM ET #341

    Gin & *Diet Tonic...(*check the sugar on regular tonic)

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    Gin & *Diet Tonic...(*check the sugar on regular tonic)

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2020 - 3:18 PM ET #342

    Donald Trump said President Obama should "resign" for his handling of the Ebola outbreak in 2014. Two Americans died in the Ebola outbreak. Two.

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    Donald Trump said President Obama should "resign" for his handling of the Ebola outbreak in 2014. Two Americans died in the Ebola outbreak. Two.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Donald Trump said President Obama should "resign" for his handling of the Ebola outbreak in 2014. Two Americans died in the Ebola outbreak. Two.

    "I don’t take responsibility at all."--Donald J Trump

    Mr. Donald J Trump will blame the faults on other people except himself, and he will take  the credit for when stock market was rising. Well, guess anyone can be an cake walk president.     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Donald Trump said President Obama should "resign" for his handling of the Ebola outbreak in 2014. Two Americans died in the Ebola outbreak. Two.

    "I don’t take responsibility at all."--Donald J Trump

    Mr. Donald J Trump will blame the faults on other people except himself, and he will take  the credit for when stock market was rising. Well, guess anyone can be an cake walk president.     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Donald Trump said President Obama should "resign" for his handling of the Ebola outbreak in 2014. Two Americans died in the Ebola outbreak. Two.

    Every Life Counts !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Donald Trump said President Obama should "resign" for his handling of the Ebola outbreak in 2014. Two Americans died in the Ebola outbreak. Two.

    Every Life Counts !

     
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    20,000 American families personally know that every life counts!

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    20,000 American families personally know that every life counts!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating. There is no clinical proof that zinc keeps the covid 19 cells from reproducing.

    That may or not be true ..nevertheless it's been said that intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair..

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating. There is no clinical proof that zinc keeps the covid 19 cells from reproducing.

    That may or not be true ..nevertheless it's been said that intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating. There is no clinical proof that zinc keeps the covid 19 cells from reproducing. That may or not be true ..nevertheless it's been said that intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair..

     

    Smart people die from this virus also slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating. There is no clinical proof that zinc keeps the covid 19 cells from reproducing. That may or not be true ..nevertheless it's been said that intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair..

     

    Smart people die from this virus also slim.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating. There is no clinical proof that zinc keeps the covid 19 cells from reproducing. That may or not be true ..nevertheless it's been said that intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair..   Smart people die from this virus also slim.

    This is true ..However they don't drink aquarium cleaner cocktails..

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating. There is no clinical proof that zinc keeps the covid 19 cells from reproducing. That may or not be true ..nevertheless it's been said that intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair..   Smart people die from this virus also slim.

    This is true ..However they don't drink aquarium cleaner cocktails..

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I truly believe it is dangerous and irresponsible not to educate people on how zinc and vitamin c can help people increase their immunity for the prevention of the coronavirus. On a personal note. I have stocked up on zinc and vitamin c and use daily. Also. I bought Schweppes tonic water yesterday and placed an order tonight for Leg Cramp Tablets by Hilands. Each of these products have quinine. The scientific name for quinine is cinchona officinalis. The bottle for Leg Cramps by Hilands will use the scientific name for quinine.  Dr Oz had the medical community run records on 14 000 lupus patients. The drug of choice for lupus is hydroxychloroquine. Not 1 of the 14 000 lupus patients has contracted coronavirus! That is more than anecdotal. It is up to me to be ready just in case I need to help myself or somebody in my family. I can not help myself. You will feel fine after drinking the quinine!

    Good post, however the levels of Vitamin C and Zinc thats been reported by MSM is misleading...the required dosage for each can only be administered thru IV because each dosage far exceeds the OTC market...and if taken foolishly in excessive amounts can cause very severe side effects including liver/kidney damage and/or failure.

    I also am very familiar with homeopathy, the leg cramp pills by Hyland is a great product for leg cramps, but has absolutely nothing to do with HCQ thats being touted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I truly believe it is dangerous and irresponsible not to educate people on how zinc and vitamin c can help people increase their immunity for the prevention of the coronavirus. On a personal note. I have stocked up on zinc and vitamin c and use daily. Also. I bought Schweppes tonic water yesterday and placed an order tonight for Leg Cramp Tablets by Hilands. Each of these products have quinine. The scientific name for quinine is cinchona officinalis. The bottle for Leg Cramps by Hilands will use the scientific name for quinine.  Dr Oz had the medical community run records on 14 000 lupus patients. The drug of choice for lupus is hydroxychloroquine. Not 1 of the 14 000 lupus patients has contracted coronavirus! That is more than anecdotal. It is up to me to be ready just in case I need to help myself or somebody in my family. I can not help myself. You will feel fine after drinking the quinine!

    Good post, however the levels of Vitamin C and Zinc thats been reported by MSM is misleading...the required dosage for each can only be administered thru IV because each dosage far exceeds the OTC market...and if taken foolishly in excessive amounts can cause very severe side effects including liver/kidney damage and/or failure.

    I also am very familiar with homeopathy, the leg cramp pills by Hyland is a great product for leg cramps, but has absolutely nothing to do with HCQ thats being touted.

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