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“All You Did Was Weaken A Country Today”

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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 4:50 PM ET #51

Quote Originally Posted by mta6:

 

nice analogy unfortunately it is completely flawed

bush elected beginning of november

transformation team in place middle of november

took office towards the end of january

this tragedy takes place almost 8 months later from being sworn

in and 10 months from having his team in place

 

bush and his admin had all of the same intell that clinton and

his admin did and both administrations and both presidents

failed the people of the united states



Your right he should have shut down the airline industry, started bombing the middle east, and search every middle eastern looking person in the U.S. until the 19 could be found and then when nothing happened you libs would have praised him. 

Sad shape we are in when the libs blame the repubs for everything and vice versa. I guess thats why we are in the mess we are in.
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Quote Originally Posted by mta6:

 

nice analogy unfortunately it is completely flawed

bush elected beginning of november

transformation team in place middle of november

took office towards the end of january

this tragedy takes place almost 8 months later from being sworn

in and 10 months from having his team in place

 

bush and his admin had all of the same intell that clinton and

his admin did and both administrations and both presidents

failed the people of the united states



Your right he should have shut down the airline industry, started bombing the middle east, and search every middle eastern looking person in the U.S. until the 19 could be found and then when nothing happened you libs would have praised him. 

Sad shape we are in when the libs blame the repubs for everything and vice versa. I guess thats why we are in the mess we are in.
 
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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 5:10 PM ET #52

Quote Originally Posted by Saget:



Your right he should have shut down the airline industry, started bombing the middle east, and search every middle eastern looking person in the U.S. until the 19 could be found and then when nothing happened you libs would have praised him. 

Sad shape we are in when the libs blame the repubs for everything and vice versa. I guess thats why we are in the mess we are in.

 

think i pretty clearly said-

 

bush and his admin had all of the same intell that clinton and

his admin did and both administrations and both presidents

failed the people of the united states

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Quote Originally Posted by Saget:



Your right he should have shut down the airline industry, started bombing the middle east, and search every middle eastern looking person in the U.S. until the 19 could be found and then when nothing happened you libs would have praised him. 

Sad shape we are in when the libs blame the repubs for everything and vice versa. I guess thats why we are in the mess we are in.

 

think i pretty clearly said-

 

bush and his admin had all of the same intell that clinton and

his admin did and both administrations and both presidents

failed the people of the united states

 
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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 5:19 PM ET #53

Seriously, are you kidding me??  Where is the economy?  Where are the WMD???  Where have all the American job went?  That arrogant little GW Bush will soon be gone.  I cannot believe people can be SO brainwashed that they can't see through BUSH.  All he ever, cared about was the elite, and himself.  Anyone, who votes straight democrat or republican, is just an idiot, and does not deserve to be an American.  Seriously?  Every democrate is better than every republican, or vice-versa?  Wow, go to the middle east and study Islam....they would LOVE single, narrow minds like these.
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Seriously, are you kidding me??  Where is the economy?  Where are the WMD???  Where have all the American job went?  That arrogant little GW Bush will soon be gone.  I cannot believe people can be SO brainwashed that they can't see through BUSH.  All he ever, cared about was the elite, and himself.  Anyone, who votes straight democrat or republican, is just an idiot, and does not deserve to be an American.  Seriously?  Every democrate is better than every republican, or vice-versa?  Wow, go to the middle east and study Islam....they would LOVE single, narrow minds like these.
 
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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 5:22 PM ET #54

This was MORE of a vote AGAINST Bush and his destructive policies (and history will show the WORST prez ever) than it was an O'bama victory.  I am an independent, but THANK GOD, we threw out many of the Bush Clones and speaking of bush clones, McCain.
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This was MORE of a vote AGAINST Bush and his destructive policies (and history will show the WORST prez ever) than it was an O'bama victory.  I am an independent, but THANK GOD, we threw out many of the Bush Clones and speaking of bush clones, McCain.
 
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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 5:24 PM ET #55

Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

If quarterback “A” starts the game but is pulled late in the 4th quarter down 42-10 and then quarterback “B” comes in and finishes the game with a final score of 42-17, is it quarterback B’s fault they lost?  I mean he was the quarterback that was in the game when they lost.



The WTC was bombed weeks after Clintin took office. Never did he lay any blaim on Bush. Yet 9/11 happened months after w took office and it was his fault. I don't get it

If you want to go down the path of blaming Clinton then go ahead, but I will show you how the Republicans were more to blame
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

If quarterback “A” starts the game but is pulled late in the 4th quarter down 42-10 and then quarterback “B” comes in and finishes the game with a final score of 42-17, is it quarterback B’s fault they lost?  I mean he was the quarterback that was in the game when they lost.



The WTC was bombed weeks after Clintin took office. Never did he lay any blaim on Bush. Yet 9/11 happened months after w took office and it was his fault. I don't get it

If you want to go down the path of blaming Clinton then go ahead, but I will show you how the Republicans were more to blame
 
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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 5:41 PM ET #56

Quote Originally Posted by maddbeale:

MTA there was never a passdown between Bush and Clinton. You didn't know that. The Clinton's wiped out the white house and left. Absoultely  no communication whatsoever. What intell you talking about. Didn't you see a former clinton aide stealing secret documents on camera to hide the fack they knew what was coming. Know your facts Fool.


Somebody doesn't know that the Clinton administration handed over to Bush a bi-partisan report that took over 2 years to compile, and Bush didn't read it. Don't believe me? It's in the 9/11 Commission report
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Quote Originally Posted by maddbeale:

MTA there was never a passdown between Bush and Clinton. You didn't know that. The Clinton's wiped out the white house and left. Absoultely  no communication whatsoever. What intell you talking about. Didn't you see a former clinton aide stealing secret documents on camera to hide the fack they knew what was coming. Know your facts Fool.


Somebody doesn't know that the Clinton administration handed over to Bush a bi-partisan report that took over 2 years to compile, and Bush didn't read it. Don't believe me? It's in the 9/11 Commission report
 
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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 6:49 PM ET #57

Exactly 2nd Again - Bush did have the intel - just did nothing with it


It astonishes me that some right wingers sincerely think that the Bush Administration is unfairly blamed for their decisions and policies. It's just the Clintons and the attacks of the "liberal media"


95% of rational people will or eventually will realize that we have just endured the worst administration in the history of this country
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Exactly 2nd Again - Bush did have the intel - just did nothing with it


It astonishes me that some right wingers sincerely think that the Bush Administration is unfairly blamed for their decisions and policies. It's just the Clintons and the attacks of the "liberal media"


95% of rational people will or eventually will realize that we have just endured the worst administration in the history of this country
 
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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 7:30 PM ET #58

Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:



The WTC was bombed weeks after Clintin took office. Never did he lay any blaim on Bush. Yet 9/11 happened months after w took office and it was his fault. I don't get it

If you want to go down the path of blaming Clinton then go ahead, but I will show you how the Republicans were more to blame

Then come on with it.

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Quote Originally Posted by SecondAgain:



The WTC was bombed weeks after Clintin took office. Never did he lay any blaim on Bush. Yet 9/11 happened months after w took office and it was his fault. I don't get it

If you want to go down the path of blaming Clinton then go ahead, but I will show you how the Republicans were more to blame

Then come on with it.

 
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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 8:07 PM ET #59

Quote Originally Posted by bandit1010:

Seriously, are you kidding me??  Where is the economy?  Where are the WMD???  Where have all the American job went?  That arrogant little GW Bush will soon be gone.  I cannot believe people can be SO brainwashed that they can't see through BUSH.  All he ever, cared about was the elite, and himself.  Anyone, who votes straight democrat or republican, is just an idiot, and does not deserve to be an American.  Seriously?  Every democrate is better than every republican, or vice-versa?  Wow, go to the middle east and study Islam....they would LOVE single, narrow minds like these.

I usually vote Democrat, but I don't always.  I voted for an Independent or the US House here in NV.  My reasoning was that both the Democrat and the Republican are known as corrupt, so I was not voting for either.

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Quote Originally Posted by bandit1010:

Seriously, are you kidding me??  Where is the economy?  Where are the WMD???  Where have all the American job went?  That arrogant little GW Bush will soon be gone.  I cannot believe people can be SO brainwashed that they can't see through BUSH.  All he ever, cared about was the elite, and himself.  Anyone, who votes straight democrat or republican, is just an idiot, and does not deserve to be an American.  Seriously?  Every democrate is better than every republican, or vice-versa?  Wow, go to the middle east and study Islam....they would LOVE single, narrow minds like these.

I usually vote Democrat, but I don't always.  I voted for an Independent or the US House here in NV.  My reasoning was that both the Democrat and the Republican are known as corrupt, so I was not voting for either.

 
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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 9:32 PM ET #60

Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

Then come on with it.



I could write a long winded post, but the attention span others around here is small. Quick summary

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The Republican congress felt Clintons measures were too harsh. In 2001 those same people say he was too weak.

Read up on Clintons January 1993 Executive Order 12947 "Prohibiting Transactions With Terrorists Who Threaten To Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process" and the original anti-terrorism bill that the Republicans watered down.

I also do not have Clintons speech to the UN Sept 21 1998 where he outlined the threat of terrorism and the responsibilities of all nations

You will see Clinton was active, but his strict proposals got watered down by a Republican congress, a year after he presented it to them
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

Then come on with it.



I could write a long winded post, but the attention span others around here is small. Quick summary

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The Republican congress felt Clintons measures were too harsh. In 2001 those same people say he was too weak.

Read up on Clintons January 1993 Executive Order 12947 "Prohibiting Transactions With Terrorists Who Threaten To Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process" and the original anti-terrorism bill that the Republicans watered down.

I also do not have Clintons speech to the UN Sept 21 1998 where he outlined the threat of terrorism and the responsibilities of all nations

You will see Clinton was active, but his strict proposals got watered down by a Republican congress, a year after he presented it to them
 
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Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 9:42 PM ET #61

[Quote: Originally Posted by mta6]

nice analogy unfortunately it is completely flawed

bush elected beginning of november

transformation team in place middle of november

took office towards the end of january

this tragedy takes place almost 8 months later from being sworn

in and 10 months from having his team in place

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Someone needs a tutor...............

 

a transformation team ................what are they transforming them into ???

 

That fairytale won't fly mta6...........

   Al Gore delayed the transition team by 36 days and didn't even concede the race till Dec.13th ..........Pres. Bush had to use about a dozen staffers ,who were paid for by private funds and volunteers he couldn't put his staff in place in mid-Nov... .........due to Gore's legal delays.

 

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[Quote: Originally Posted by mta6]

nice analogy unfortunately it is completely flawed

bush elected beginning of november

transformation team in place middle of november

took office towards the end of january

this tragedy takes place almost 8 months later from being sworn

in and 10 months from having his team in place

[Quote]

 

Someone needs a tutor...............

 

a transformation team ................what are they transforming them into ???

 

That fairytale won't fly mta6...........

   Al Gore delayed the transition team by 36 days and didn't even concede the race till Dec.13th ..........Pres. Bush had to use about a dozen staffers ,who were paid for by private funds and volunteers he couldn't put his staff in place in mid-Nov... .........due to Gore's legal delays.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Slimdaddy2004:

maddbeale, I really don't know where to start responding to this.  Wow!  I assume that you are a Republican which is your perrogative.  I cannot believe, that as a black person, you would say that any citizen should have their voting rights revoked!  You have just insulted ALL of your ancestors who fought, marched, and protested in-order for your unappreciative a*ss to just spit on their graves!  Besides that, you are the one who is ignorant.  If you look at every presidential election since the Civil Rights Bill was passed, you will see that blacks vote Democrat at around a 97%+ rate.  In this election, Obama got around 98% of the black vote, so you see that the usual percentage of blacks voted Democrat again.  Just like most Republicans, you say inflamatory things in order to make your points which are not vaildated by anthing real!  If you need an example, go look at Bush's WMD calims about Iraq before the war.  Also, Obama could not have won without getting the normal percentage of white votes for a Democratic candidate, and he did just that!  Plus, although we all know that hispanics and blacks don't truly see eye-to-eye, he pretty much got most if not all the Hispanic vote!  Just face it, you guys lost!  As McCain admited, "the best man won." 

 = Staunch Republicans 

 = Everyone else

Slim, yes anyone who votes simply because of the color of his skin is ignorant. Point blank. I already know how blacks vote. I'm from Phila. Purely a democratic city. Always preaching hope. Things only got worse. There's a saying that if the road you take in life not working right, take the scenic. For 20 years i've seen how blacks vote and their lives never changed for the better. Funny to me they never thought of going the other way. Everyone knows the majority of black votes goes democratic. They know how you think. Or don't think. Stop letting the T.V. think for you and for once in your pathetic lives use your brain. You'd be amazed what you would learn. If for once you think Obama will change your life, think again. Keep hoping. I see things in a whole different light. I actually use my brain. I see what you don't. I know the problems in this country and see them every day, every minute and it disturbs me that so many people, not just blacks, is totally oblivious to whats right before your eyes.

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Quote Originally Posted by Slimdaddy2004:

maddbeale, I really don't know where to start responding to this.  Wow!  I assume that you are a Republican which is your perrogative.  I cannot believe, that as a black person, you would say that any citizen should have their voting rights revoked!  You have just insulted ALL of your ancestors who fought, marched, and protested in-order for your unappreciative a*ss to just spit on their graves!  Besides that, you are the one who is ignorant.  If you look at every presidential election since the Civil Rights Bill was passed, you will see that blacks vote Democrat at around a 97%+ rate.  In this election, Obama got around 98% of the black vote, so you see that the usual percentage of blacks voted Democrat again.  Just like most Republicans, you say inflamatory things in order to make your points which are not vaildated by anthing real!  If you need an example, go look at Bush's WMD calims about Iraq before the war.  Also, Obama could not have won without getting the normal percentage of white votes for a Democratic candidate, and he did just that!  Plus, although we all know that hispanics and blacks don't truly see eye-to-eye, he pretty much got most if not all the Hispanic vote!  Just face it, you guys lost!  As McCain admited, "the best man won." 

 = Staunch Republicans 

 = Everyone else

Slim, yes anyone who votes simply because of the color of his skin is ignorant. Point blank. I already know how blacks vote. I'm from Phila. Purely a democratic city. Always preaching hope. Things only got worse. There's a saying that if the road you take in life not working right, take the scenic. For 20 years i've seen how blacks vote and their lives never changed for the better. Funny to me they never thought of going the other way. Everyone knows the majority of black votes goes democratic. They know how you think. Or don't think. Stop letting the T.V. think for you and for once in your pathetic lives use your brain. You'd be amazed what you would learn. If for once you think Obama will change your life, think again. Keep hoping. I see things in a whole different light. I actually use my brain. I see what you don't. I know the problems in this country and see them every day, every minute and it disturbs me that so many people, not just blacks, is totally oblivious to whats right before your eyes.

 
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Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 12:06 AM ET #64

Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Quote Originally Posted by mta6:

nice analogy unfortunately it is completely flawed

bush elected beginning of november

transformation team in place middle of november

took office towards the end of january

this tragedy takes place almost 8 months later from being sworn

in and 10 months from having his team in place

[Quote]

 

Someone needs a tutor...............

 

a transformation team ................what are they transforming them into ???

 

That fairytale won't fly mta6...........

   Al Gore delayed the transition team by 36 days and didn't even concede the race till Dec.13th ..........Pres. Bush had to use about a dozen staffers ,who were paid for by private funds and volunteers he couldn't put his staff in place in mid-Nov... .........due to Gore's legal delays.

 

WOW

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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Quote Originally Posted by mta6:

nice analogy unfortunately it is completely flawed

bush elected beginning of november

transformation team in place middle of november

took office towards the end of january

this tragedy takes place almost 8 months later from being sworn

in and 10 months from having his team in place

[Quote]

 

Someone needs a tutor...............

 

a transformation team ................what are they transforming them into ???

 

That fairytale won't fly mta6...........

   Al Gore delayed the transition team by 36 days and didn't even concede the race till Dec.13th ..........Pres. Bush had to use about a dozen staffers ,who were paid for by private funds and volunteers he couldn't put his staff in place in mid-Nov... .........due to Gore's legal delays.

 

WOW

Game
set
match

 
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I am begiinign to see who are the "knows" in this forum ( and who don't knows )

Knows:

Sarasotaslim
Koaj
SecondAgain

Don't Knows:

mta6
Mikael
cd329

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Knows:

Sarasotaslim
Koaj
SecondAgain

Don't Knows:

mta6
Mikael
cd329

 
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Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 12:16 AM ET #66

Are you guys communists?
 
Am I in the right forum?
 
Hoping to have some good conversations with communists.  Are they here?
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Are you guys communists?
 
Am I in the right forum?
 
Hoping to have some good conversations with communists.  Are they here?
 
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Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 1:01 AM ET #67

Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

Silly husker.  It’s not racist.  If you are racist against white people you aren’t racist, you just support African-American rights.  But if you say anything bad about any black person ever, you will be forever branded as a racist and you’ll be lucky if you aren’t stoned in the streets.  Didn’t you get the memo?

Yo I group up in L.A., and I know cats from all backrgrounds and whatnot... various peoples from diffferent socio-economic levels some of the most racist were people of color, no doubt.

But... ignorance is ignorance, whatever the color... and that's what racism is.. pure crap. If your a good person, than you are, and your pigment could be blue or purple, white or black, brown or red, and it wouldn't matter, it would never change your character.

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Silly husker.  It’s not racist.  If you are racist against white people you aren’t racist, you just support African-American rights.  But if you say anything bad about any black person ever, you will be forever branded as a racist and you’ll be lucky if you aren’t stoned in the streets.  Didn’t you get the memo?

Yo I group up in L.A., and I know cats from all backrgrounds and whatnot... various peoples from diffferent socio-economic levels some of the most racist were people of color, no doubt.

But... ignorance is ignorance, whatever the color... and that's what racism is.. pure crap. If your a good person, than you are, and your pigment could be blue or purple, white or black, brown or red, and it wouldn't matter, it would never change your character.

 
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This has been quite the election. As retired military I hope his advisors lead him in the right direction. As the father of bi-racial children i'm glad that they were old enough to see history. As a Virginia voter i was disappointed that all local tv covered was the  "it's not the color of his skin election" but each person generally said it's was the color of his skin that brought them out to vote. It is time for a change in america. It's been happening. Women will be president some day. I really didn't care for either running this year...but I will be supportive. It still my country until you take it from me. Soooooooooooooooooooooooo..........................

If you think Jerry Springer is a serious relationship counselor. Please don't vote.

If you think Roe vs. Wade is an argument between two guys on which is the fastest way to cross a river. Please don't vote.

If you think Korematsu vs. United States is the next opponent the U.S. Mens Soccer Team will be facing. Please don't vote.

If you think Little Boy and Fat Man is a new TV series or a nickname for a guy's private parts. Please don't vote.

If you think "No child left behind" applies to all children in the mall, theme parks and rest stops on the highway. Please don't vote.

If you think that a Fallopian tube is part of your TV. Please don't vote.

Remember folks we put a monkey into space in the late 1950's and brought it back safely to earth. Common sense is all it takes during an election .....not rocket science. The monkeys name was Sam.

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This has been quite the election. As retired military I hope his advisors lead him in the right direction. As the father of bi-racial children i'm glad that they were old enough to see history. As a Virginia voter i was disappointed that all local tv covered was the  "it's not the color of his skin election" but each person generally said it's was the color of his skin that brought them out to vote. It is time for a change in america. It's been happening. Women will be president some day. I really didn't care for either running this year...but I will be supportive. It still my country until you take it from me. Soooooooooooooooooooooooo..........................

If you think Jerry Springer is a serious relationship counselor. Please don't vote.

If you think Roe vs. Wade is an argument between two guys on which is the fastest way to cross a river. Please don't vote.

If you think Korematsu vs. United States is the next opponent the U.S. Mens Soccer Team will be facing. Please don't vote.

If you think Little Boy and Fat Man is a new TV series or a nickname for a guy's private parts. Please don't vote.

If you think "No child left behind" applies to all children in the mall, theme parks and rest stops on the highway. Please don't vote.

If you think that a Fallopian tube is part of your TV. Please don't vote.

Remember folks we put a monkey into space in the late 1950's and brought it back safely to earth. Common sense is all it takes during an election .....not rocket science. The monkeys name was Sam.

 
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STRAIGHTSHOOTER,
YOU DO NOT BELIEVED THAT STUFF YOU WRITE YOU ARE JUST HAVING SOME THING TO CAUSE A STIR.
MAY LIFE BE GOOD TO YOU AND SENT US SOME WINNERS ON THE GAMES OF YOUR CHOICE.
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STRAIGHTSHOOTER,
YOU DO NOT BELIEVED THAT STUFF YOU WRITE YOU ARE JUST HAVING SOME THING TO CAUSE A STIR.
MAY LIFE BE GOOD TO YOU AND SENT US SOME WINNERS ON THE GAMES OF YOUR CHOICE.
 
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"well...don't I feel like the ass hole."
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Posted: Jan. 15, 2009 - 11:13 PM ET #73

 he’ll have better luck finding Bin Laden than Bush did
 
Doesn't matter. Would be like killing Col Sanders 20 years after he sold off Ky Fried Chicken, but the image of the old guy was still used
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Doesn't matter. Would be like killing Col Sanders 20 years after he sold off Ky Fried Chicken, but the image of the old guy was still used
 
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

Republicans still trying to create spin.
 
America has spoken so straight shooter accept the fact that more people voted against your guy.
If you dont like the results, then move out of the country.
You are funny
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Republicans still trying to create spin.
 
America has spoken so straight shooter accept the fact that more people voted against your guy.
If you dont like the results, then move out of the country.
You are funny
 
 
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'he’ll have better luck finding Bin Laden than Bush did'
 
You really think so ..he is already back sliding on a campaign promise.....to find him and kill him....
 
01/14/09
to Katie Couric .................
 
 "My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him,'' Obama says. "But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives, then we will meet our goal of protecting America.''
 
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'he’ll have better luck finding Bin Laden than Bush did'
 
You really think so ..he is already back sliding on a campaign promise.....to find him and kill him....
 
01/14/09
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 "My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him,'' Obama says. "But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives, then we will meet our goal of protecting America.''
 
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