30 Republicans vote nay for rights of victim who was gang raped

That does not entitle them to bring it home, keep it for three years, and then dispose of the evidence you tool

Of course not.  The criminal enterprise that is KBR was trying to protect its ass.

I am not sure if you misunderstood what I was trying to say in the first place?  My question is... how did KBR get their hands on this "rape kit" in the first place?  Did they kick down the door of the doctor's office and run off with it?  Someone had to have handed it over... correct?

APK wasn't defending anyone's position, most here can speak for themselves.

What appears to have happened ( according to the article ) is the rape kit was taken and then given to Halliburton officials.

That would be like handing over a bloody knife to the defense BEFORE it was tagged or the blood sample taken for a DNA match.

That wasn't a case of discovery or due process, that was close to malfeasance

Without knowing the language in the bill, how can you condemn anyone's vote?

You would fit in perfectly with today's Congress....
....but we didn't read the bill
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Which is exactly the point that depeche missed   No one gets handed the evidence to dispose of... that is absolutely unheard of.  Here is your murder weapon, please bring it back to the courts within a month or two so we can book it as evidence

Gee..

Haliburton wouldnt bury evidence or "misplace" it...nah that is impossible.

HOW DID HALIBURTON GET THE EVIDENCE?  Did the woman walk into their headquarters waving it in the air and saying look what I got?  Or did the doctor who documented all of this evidence decide to hand it over to Haliburton for further examination instead of turning it over to the authorities??

The thing is, KBR probably wasn't seen as "the accused" here...they probably told the hospital that they would "handle" the investigation, and handle it they did.  If evidence was lost or ruined in their possession then all presumptions should go against them and in favor of the victim.  Not sure what court or judicial authority has jurisdiction here, but hopefully KBR will get spanked.

My comment was IF HAL got it, would it shock anyone that they might LOSE or mishandle the information?

woop, it happened on THEIR site, in a foreign country in the middle of chaos and disorder..it wouldnt shock me at all.

I tend to believe the woman here, what she says makes sense and since she didnt have representation and was in those conditions, I have no idea what happened..but it wouldnt shock me one bit if things werent handled properly.

and what about when she then wants to sue the alledged rapists.
Should all presumptions go against them and in favor of the victim?

Should they lose their "due process" ?

Certainly KBR has an interest in this going away, but, without a chain of evidence, how do you know Haliburton got the rape kit.

If it was collected, and then Mr X signed for it, then certainly Mr X needs to be held liable.

If it was handed over to "some guy in sunglasses with a a big nose, bushy eyebrows and a bushy mustache...kinda looked like Groucho Marx" then how can you hold Halliburton liable.

The slanted ARTICLE says Haliburton took control of the evidence>
The woman who WANTS TO SUE A COMPANY WITH DEEP POCKETS may also have said Halliburton took possession....

Would love to know the last CONFIRMED individual to have possession.....If that person failed to document who took the "evidence" next, that person, needs to be looked at more carefully.

GOP dirt

Context guys.

The amendment was to exempt a specific category of crimes from the arbitration provision that is common in many employment contracts if I understand it correctly. In the Court case in question, the defense argued that this woman's claims against their client should be forced (or "compelled") to go to arbitration for her disputes.

Why?

Because they were arguing that her allegation were "relating to or arising out of the course and scope of her employment", or something along those lines. The trial court judge (I believe) agreed with them, and it was appealed up to the Fifth Circuit. The Fifth Circuit reversed, saying "yah right guys, nice try"

Arbitration, by itself, is not a bad concept at all. Much, much cheaper than litigation for both sides.

I've never heard of any situations whereby one side gets the sole authority to pick the arbitrator. Generally both sides get to strike a couple, and then if they can't agree on who, they pass it to the judge before who the motion to compel arbitration was filed.

/CA admitted attorney

Meant to say they don't get the evidence during the investigation.