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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 1:48 AM ET #1

    https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/10/16/notes101609.DTL

    So these republicans voted to end ACORN because of that prostitution thing but they dont believe this woman has the right to a trial after being gang raped and drugged because she signed a contract when working for Haliburton that said employees cannot sue for sexual assault

    How could any of them vote nay on this amendment.
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    https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/10/16/notes101609.DTL

    So these republicans voted to end ACORN because of that prostitution thing but they dont believe this woman has the right to a trial after being gang raped and drugged because she signed a contract when working for Haliburton that said employees cannot sue for sexual assault

    How could any of them vote nay on this amendment.
     
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    How the hell is a company even able to write something like that in an employment contract?  That is fucked up.
    Why not just write in the contracts, by accepting this job any person in the company can fuck you anytime they want.
    This is just plain sick and fuck those republicans that voted no, they are dirtbags just like the guys who did this.
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    How the hell is a company even able to write something like that in an employment contract?  That is fucked up.
    Why not just write in the contracts, by accepting this job any person in the company can fuck you anytime they want.
    This is just plain sick and fuck those republicans that voted no, they are dirtbags just like the guys who did this.
     
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    I thought they where your new best friends
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    How the hell is a company even able to write something like that in an employment contract?  That is fucked up.
    Why not just write in the contracts, by accepting this job any person in the company can fuck you anytime they want.
    This is just plain sick and fuck those republicans that voted no, they are dirtbags just like the guys who did this.


    1)  Is there any actual physical evidence of this rape, or is it all just he said she said ala Ben Rothlesberger. 

    2)  Not that I agree with what happened, but if she signed a contract that she reviewed and it clearly stated... if you are sexually assaulted you have no legal rights... don't you think she would have wondered what the hell is this?  Or asked a question about it?  Or complained about it?  Or any of the above?  If my wife was applying for a job, and her contract stated WE CAN RAPE YOU... I would say why the hell would you ever... ever... consider signing a contract like this?  Seems that she is just as dumb as the company for allowing such a rule
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    How the hell is a company even able to write something like that in an employment contract?  That is fucked up.
    Why not just write in the contracts, by accepting this job any person in the company can fuck you anytime they want.
    This is just plain sick and fuck those republicans that voted no, they are dirtbags just like the guys who did this.


    1)  Is there any actual physical evidence of this rape, or is it all just he said she said ala Ben Rothlesberger. 

    2)  Not that I agree with what happened, but if she signed a contract that she reviewed and it clearly stated... if you are sexually assaulted you have no legal rights... don't you think she would have wondered what the hell is this?  Or asked a question about it?  Or complained about it?  Or any of the above?  If my wife was applying for a job, and her contract stated WE CAN RAPE YOU... I would say why the hell would you ever... ever... consider signing a contract like this?  Seems that she is just as dumb as the company for allowing such a rule
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikael99:

    I thought they where your new best friends


    You do know it's possible not to agree with everything one party does???

    People are allowed to have minds of their own and decide things for themselves.  Not everyone listens to Obama, Bush, or whoever and takes everything they say as truthful and correct.

    This world needs more people like CD who can think for themselves.  We don't need a bunch of brainwashed sheep...(90% of the population...)
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    I thought they where your new best friends


    You do know it's possible not to agree with everything one party does???

    People are allowed to have minds of their own and decide things for themselves.  Not everyone listens to Obama, Bush, or whoever and takes everything they say as truthful and correct.

    This world needs more people like CD who can think for themselves.  We don't need a bunch of brainwashed sheep...(90% of the population...)
     
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    I dont get how any employer can have that verbage in an employment contract, that is absurd.
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    I dont get how any employer can have that verbage in an employment contract, that is absurd.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I dont get how any employer can have that verbage in an employment contract, that is absurd.


    And the fact that someone would sign off to those terms... even more absurd
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    I dont get how any employer can have that verbage in an employment contract, that is absurd.


    And the fact that someone would sign off to those terms... even more absurd
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by woopdurritis:



    And the fact that someone would sign off to those terms... even more absurd


    Well in all honesty, how many times have any of us taken our employment agreement to a lawyer for review? I personally have not, nor should ANYONE think there is potential for sexual discrimination at work.

    Haliburton should never have been allowed or placed CYA verbage like that in a contract.

    I hope she wins, to think that an employer would shirk responsibility in this case is again absurd..but not shocking coming from HAL.


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    And the fact that someone would sign off to those terms... even more absurd


    Well in all honesty, how many times have any of us taken our employment agreement to a lawyer for review? I personally have not, nor should ANYONE think there is potential for sexual discrimination at work.

    Haliburton should never have been allowed or placed CYA verbage like that in a contract.

    I hope she wins, to think that an employer would shirk responsibility in this case is again absurd..but not shocking coming from HAL.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

    https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/10/16/notes101609.DTL

    Please link the SPECIFIC language that appears in a KBR contract

    Also, please link the date when this language was put in the contracts
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

    https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/10/16/notes101609.DTL

    Please link the SPECIFIC language that appears in a KBR contract

    Also, please link the date when this language was put in the contracts
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexPKeaton:

    Please link the SPECIFIC language that appears in a KBR contract

    Also, please link the date when this language was put in the contracts
     
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    You are out of your mind. I dont work for Haliburton and dont have the contract.

    The fact that this was voted on in Senate proves the language was in the contract.

    Get a clue.
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    Also, please link the date when this language was put in the contracts
     
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    You are out of your mind. I dont work for Haliburton and dont have the contract.

    The fact that this was voted on in Senate proves the language was in the contract.

    Get a clue.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 11:22 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by woopdurritis:



    1)  Is there any actual physical evidence of this rape, or is it all just he said she said ala Ben Rothlesberger. 

    2)  Not that I agree with what happened, but if she signed a contract that she reviewed and it clearly stated... if you are sexually assaulted you have no legal rights... don't you think she would have wondered what the hell is this?  Or asked a question about it?  Or complained about it?  Or any of the above?  If my wife was applying for a job, and her contract stated WE CAN RAPE YOU... I would say why the hell would you ever... ever... consider signing a contract like this?  Seems that she is just as dumb as the company for allowing such a rule


    I doubt you would have read the full contract and understood that you could not sue for sexual assault. They use language that can be interpreted in different ways and as Lippsman said... unless you brought it to a lawyer that is the only way you would have known.

    You blaming the woman for being locked up, drugged and gang raped is vile and something I would have never expected from you.
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    1)  Is there any actual physical evidence of this rape, or is it all just he said she said ala Ben Rothlesberger. 

    2)  Not that I agree with what happened, but if she signed a contract that she reviewed and it clearly stated... if you are sexually assaulted you have no legal rights... don't you think she would have wondered what the hell is this?  Or asked a question about it?  Or complained about it?  Or any of the above?  If my wife was applying for a job, and her contract stated WE CAN RAPE YOU... I would say why the hell would you ever... ever... consider signing a contract like this?  Seems that she is just as dumb as the company for allowing such a rule


    I doubt you would have read the full contract and understood that you could not sue for sexual assault. They use language that can be interpreted in different ways and as Lippsman said... unless you brought it to a lawyer that is the only way you would have known.

    You blaming the woman for being locked up, drugged and gang raped is vile and something I would have never expected from you.
     
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    not lippsman... Wallstreet
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 11:31 AM ET #13

    https://www.alternet.org/blogs/healthwellness/143164/30_gop_senators_vote_to_defend_gang_rape/

    Heres a list of the names who voted no.

    https://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/oct/15/kbr-halliburton-rape-jamie-leigh-jones

    n Baghdad in 2005, Jamie Leigh Jones claims, she was gang-raped by her colleagues at KBR, a former subsidiary of Halliburton. Her injuries, including torn pectoral muscles, tearing of her vagina and anus and ruptured breast implants, were confirmed by a physician, who said they were consistent with rape. He then handed the rape kit over to her employer, KBR. And KBR, according to Jones, locked her in a storage container, posted an armed guard outside of her door and denied her food and water.

    The rape kit given to KBR disappeared, not to be seen again until 2007. When it resurfaced, it was missing doctors' notes and photographs – which, along with the fact that Jones was drugged and could identify only one of her assailants, effectively annihilated her chances in a criminal case. KBR also denied her the right to take them even to a civil court, saying that what had been done to her was a mere "personal injury in the workplace", and could – according to her contract – be resolved only by arbitration.


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    https://www.alternet.org/blogs/healthwellness/143164/30_gop_senators_vote_to_defend_gang_rape/

    Heres a list of the names who voted no.

    https://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/oct/15/kbr-halliburton-rape-jamie-leigh-jones

    n Baghdad in 2005, Jamie Leigh Jones claims, she was gang-raped by her colleagues at KBR, a former subsidiary of Halliburton. Her injuries, including torn pectoral muscles, tearing of her vagina and anus and ruptured breast implants, were confirmed by a physician, who said they were consistent with rape. He then handed the rape kit over to her employer, KBR. And KBR, according to Jones, locked her in a storage container, posted an armed guard outside of her door and denied her food and water.

    The rape kit given to KBR disappeared, not to be seen again until 2007. When it resurfaced, it was missing doctors' notes and photographs – which, along with the fact that Jones was drugged and could identify only one of her assailants, effectively annihilated her chances in a criminal case. KBR also denied her the right to take them even to a civil court, saying that what had been done to her was a mere "personal injury in the workplace", and could – according to her contract – be resolved only by arbitration.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 11:39 AM ET #15

    I got sexually assaulted by Pamela Anderson in 1992, and I want to sue her for 10 billion dollars... but I forgot to mention that there is absolutely 0 evidence of any of this happening... but everyone should take my word for it... please hear my case
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    I got sexually assaulted by Pamela Anderson in 1992, and I want to sue her for 10 billion dollars... but I forgot to mention that there is absolutely 0 evidence of any of this happening... but everyone should take my word for it... please hear my case
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:



    You are out of your mind. I dont work for Haliburton and dont have the contract.

    The fact that this was voted on in Senate proves the language was in the contract.

    Get a clue.

    So you are going on a websites slant that there is such a provision in the contract....


    interesting that APK has done a quick google search, and can't find the contract on the web

    Also the article from the website didn't include the SPECIFIC LANGUAGE....
    hen APK sees that, he is automatically suspicious about the authenticity and validity of the claim

     

    Since you got owned with that question, how about when the provision was written in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:



    You are out of your mind. I dont work for Haliburton and dont have the contract.

    The fact that this was voted on in Senate proves the language was in the contract.

    Get a clue.

    So you are going on a websites slant that there is such a provision in the contract....


    interesting that APK has done a quick google search, and can't find the contract on the web

    Also the article from the website didn't include the SPECIFIC LANGUAGE....
    hen APK sees that, he is automatically suspicious about the authenticity and validity of the claim

     

    Since you got owned with that question, how about when the provision was written in?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 11:54 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:





    The fact that this was voted on in Senate proves the language was in the contract.

    Get a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:





    The fact that this was voted on in Senate proves the language was in the contract.

    Get a clue.

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    APK would link recent votes that were cast without reading bills, but, covers has a 7800 word maximum

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:00 PM ET #19

    Only someone wanting to argue would try to put the blame on the woman in this case and shield the company.


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    Only someone wanting to argue would try to put the blame on the woman in this case and shield the company.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:01 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by woopdurritis:

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    She saw a doctor and the injuries are listed. The rape kit contained all the information until HBK destroyed all the evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woopdurritis:

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    She saw a doctor and the injuries are listed. The rape kit contained all the information until HBK destroyed all the evidence.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:01 PM ET #21

    Well, luckily it passed regardless of the 30 shitbags who voted against it. 

    I'm willing to bet the a lot of the nay votes, were just out of sheer spite and hatred for Franken and the shady campaign he ran last fall. No way all 30 of them are that fucking retarded. My guess is they knew it would pass anyway, and they just wanted to oppose Franken because, well, I'm pretty sure they hate him. A lot. 

    I don't like Al Franken. But I applaud this amendment. Not only is it common sense, but its just right thing to do. I would of signed this in a second. 




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    Well, luckily it passed regardless of the 30 shitbags who voted against it. 

    I'm willing to bet the a lot of the nay votes, were just out of sheer spite and hatred for Franken and the shady campaign he ran last fall. No way all 30 of them are that fucking retarded. My guess is they knew it would pass anyway, and they just wanted to oppose Franken because, well, I'm pretty sure they hate him. A lot. 

    I don't like Al Franken. But I applaud this amendment. Not only is it common sense, but its just right thing to do. I would of signed this in a second. 




     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:03 PM ET #22

    Woop, stop being a fucking moron. This girl got brutalized by a bunch of shitbags, and will never ever have to face justice. What if this was your mom or sister?  
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    Woop, stop being a fucking moron. This girl got brutalized by a bunch of shitbags, and will never ever have to face justice. What if this was your mom or sister?  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:04 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:



    She saw a doctor and the injuries are listed. The rape kit contained all the information until HBK destroyed all the evidence.


    That is all fine and well, but since when has it become a custom to submit crucial case evidence over to the accused?  When the police find a murder weapon do they submit it to the murderer for examination before they press charges?

    You are telling me that the doctor or this girl submitted the rape kit to HBK for what reason?  Wouldn't they be submitting this to the police... or the court... or someone other than the accused? 

    I am struggling to see how this went down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:



    She saw a doctor and the injuries are listed. The rape kit contained all the information until HBK destroyed all the evidence.


    That is all fine and well, but since when has it become a custom to submit crucial case evidence over to the accused?  When the police find a murder weapon do they submit it to the murderer for examination before they press charges?

    You are telling me that the doctor or this girl submitted the rape kit to HBK for what reason?  Wouldn't they be submitting this to the police... or the court... or someone other than the accused? 

    I am struggling to see how this went down?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:06 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    Woop, stop being a fucking moron. This girl got brutalized by a bunch of shitbags, and will never ever have to face justice. What if this was your mom or sister?  


    What is wrong with questioning the story?  Do you know how many woman have falsely accused someone of rape?  Do you know how many people have spent time in prison for crimes that they DID NOT commit?  All I am saying is that there have been PLENTY of false rape accusations in the news lately.  I am not saying it did not happen, just some irrefutable evidence would be nice. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    Woop, stop being a fucking moron. This girl got brutalized by a bunch of shitbags, and will never ever have to face justice. What if this was your mom or sister?  


    What is wrong with questioning the story?  Do you know how many woman have falsely accused someone of rape?  Do you know how many people have spent time in prison for crimes that they DID NOT commit?  All I am saying is that there have been PLENTY of false rape accusations in the news lately.  I am not saying it did not happen, just some irrefutable evidence would be nice. 


     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2009 - 12:30 PM ET #25

    1)  Opposing the amendment was just stupid.... contracts verbiage like the had is outragious, but the amendment, even though obvious and should not be required is had to argue against.
     
    2) Anyone saying she will not get justice is speaking way too early.  The contract said she had to go to arbitration, not that should could not get justice.  Many times arbitration will lead to suit and/or court.
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    1)  Opposing the amendment was just stupid.... contracts verbiage like the had is outragious, but the amendment, even though obvious and should not be required is had to argue against.
     
    2) Anyone saying she will not get justice is speaking way too early.  The contract said she had to go to arbitration, not that should could not get justice.  Many times arbitration will lead to suit and/or court.
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