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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2010 - 1:04 PM ET #1

    just sick where did i go wrong
    Stage #382475783 Tourney ID 5771152 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 40 - 2010-10-04 12:43:10 (ET)
    Table: 20 (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - PORTLANDACE66 (1,090 in chips)
    Seat 2 - BTCALI8 (2,370 in chips)
    Seat 3 - YOUNGMONEYS (1,240 in chips)
    Seat 4 - ATHENS67 (3,838 in chips)
    Seat 5 - MG86302 (347 in chips)
    Seat 6 - FLEET333 (2,465 in chips)
    Seat 7 - RIVERDANCE77 (1,190 in chips)
    Seat 8 - BLAKHAWK (1,420 in chips)
    Seat 9 - MACKPADDY (1,500 in chips)
    FLEET333 - Posts small blind 20
    RIVERDANCE77 - Posts big blind 40
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to FLEET333 [9c 9s]
    BLAKHAWK - Calls 40
    MACKPADDY - Folds
    PORTLANDACE66 - Calls 40
    BTCALI8 - All-In(Raise) 2,370 to 2,370
    YOUNGMONEYS - Folds
    ATHENS67 - Folds
    MG86302 - Folds
    FLEET333 - Folds
    RIVERDANCE77 - Folds
    BLAKHAWK - Folds
    PORTLANDACE66 - All-In 1,050
    BTCALI8 - returned (1,280) : not called
    *** FLOP *** [Js Qc Ac]
    *** TURN *** [Js Qc Ac] [Jh]
    *** RIVER *** [Js Qc Ac Jh] [Kh]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    PORTLANDACE66 - Shows [8d 8h] (Two Pair, jacks and eights)
    BTCALI8 - Shows [Ks 7d] (Two Pair, kings and jacks)
    BTCALI8 Collects 2,280 from main pot
     
     
    Stage #382476569 Tourney ID 5771152 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 40 - 2010-10-04 12:44:07 (ET)
    Table: 20 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
    Seat 2 - BTCALI8 (3,560 in chips)
    Seat 3 - YOUNGMONEYS (1,240 in chips)
    Seat 4 - ATHENS67 (3,838 in chips)
    Seat 5 - MG86302 (347 in chips)
    Seat 6 - FLEET333 (2,445 in chips)
    Seat 7 - RIVERDANCE77 (1,150 in chips)
    Seat 8 - BLAKHAWK (1,380 in chips)
    Seat 9 - MACKPADDY (1,500 in chips)
    RIVERDANCE77 - Posts small blind 20
    BLAKHAWK - Posts big blind 40
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to FLEET333 [9h 6d]
    MACKPADDY - Folds
    BTCALI8 - All-In(Raise) 3,560 to 3,560
    YOUNGMONEYS - Folds
    ATHENS67 - Folds
    MG86302 - Folds
    FLEET333 - Folds
    RIVERDANCE77 - All-In 1,130
    BLAKHAWK - Folds
    BTCALI8 - returned (2,410) : not called
    *** FLOP *** [2d 9c 7d]
    *** TURN *** [2d 9c 7d] [7h]
    *** RIVER *** [2d 9c 7d 7h] [5c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    BTCALI8 - Shows [5d 5h] (Full house, fives full of sevens)
    RIVERDANCE77 - Shows [8h 8s] (Two Pair, eights and sevens)
    BTCALI8 Collects 2,340 from main pot
     
     
     
    Stage #382477895 Tourney ID 5771152 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 40 - 2010-10-04 12:45:46 (ET)
    Table: 20 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - NICOLU (1,500 in chips)
    Seat 2 - BTCALI8 (4,403 in chips)
    Seat 3 - YOUNGMONEYS (1,240 in chips)
    Seat 4 - ATHENS67 (3,838 in chips)
    Seat 5 - MG86302 (754 in chips)
    Seat 6 - FLEET333 (2,445 in chips)
    Seat 8 - BLAKHAWK (1,320 in chips)
    Seat 9 - MACKPADDY (1,460 in chips)
    MACKPADDY - Posts small blind 20
    NICOLU - Posts big blind 40
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to FLEET333 [Qs Qh]
    BTCALI8 - All-In(Raise) 4,403 to 4,403
    YOUNGMONEYS - Folds
    ATHENS67 - Folds
    MG86302 - Folds
    FLEET333 - All-In 2,445
    BLAKHAWK - Folds
    MACKPADDY - Folds
    NICOLU - Folds
    BTCALI8 - returned (1,958) : not called
    *** FLOP *** [Ah 7d Ks]
    *** TURN *** [Ah 7d Ks] [5d]
    *** RIVER *** [Ah 7d Ks 5d] [6c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    BTCALI8 - Shows [6s 7s] (Two Pair, sevens and sixes)
    FLEET333 - Shows [Qs Qh] (One pair, queens)
    BTCALI8 Collects 4,950 from main pot

    three rivers this guy hits   ready to give up
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    just sick where did i go wrong
    Stage #382475783 Tourney ID 5771152 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 40 - 2010-10-04 12:43:10 (ET)
    Table: 20 (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - PORTLANDACE66 (1,090 in chips)
    Seat 2 - BTCALI8 (2,370 in chips)
    Seat 3 - YOUNGMONEYS (1,240 in chips)
    Seat 4 - ATHENS67 (3,838 in chips)
    Seat 5 - MG86302 (347 in chips)
    Seat 6 - FLEET333 (2,465 in chips)
    Seat 7 - RIVERDANCE77 (1,190 in chips)
    Seat 8 - BLAKHAWK (1,420 in chips)
    Seat 9 - MACKPADDY (1,500 in chips)
    FLEET333 - Posts small blind 20
    RIVERDANCE77 - Posts big blind 40
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to FLEET333 [9c 9s]
    BLAKHAWK - Calls 40
    MACKPADDY - Folds
    PORTLANDACE66 - Calls 40
    BTCALI8 - All-In(Raise) 2,370 to 2,370
    YOUNGMONEYS - Folds
    ATHENS67 - Folds
    MG86302 - Folds
    FLEET333 - Folds
    RIVERDANCE77 - Folds
    BLAKHAWK - Folds
    PORTLANDACE66 - All-In 1,050
    BTCALI8 - returned (1,280) : not called
    *** FLOP *** [Js Qc Ac]
    *** TURN *** [Js Qc Ac] [Jh]
    *** RIVER *** [Js Qc Ac Jh] [Kh]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    PORTLANDACE66 - Shows [8d 8h] (Two Pair, jacks and eights)
    BTCALI8 - Shows [Ks 7d] (Two Pair, kings and jacks)
    BTCALI8 Collects 2,280 from main pot
     
     
    Stage #382476569 Tourney ID 5771152 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 40 - 2010-10-04 12:44:07 (ET)
    Table: 20 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
    Seat 2 - BTCALI8 (3,560 in chips)
    Seat 3 - YOUNGMONEYS (1,240 in chips)
    Seat 4 - ATHENS67 (3,838 in chips)
    Seat 5 - MG86302 (347 in chips)
    Seat 6 - FLEET333 (2,445 in chips)
    Seat 7 - RIVERDANCE77 (1,150 in chips)
    Seat 8 - BLAKHAWK (1,380 in chips)
    Seat 9 - MACKPADDY (1,500 in chips)
    RIVERDANCE77 - Posts small blind 20
    BLAKHAWK - Posts big blind 40
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to FLEET333 [9h 6d]
    MACKPADDY - Folds
    BTCALI8 - All-In(Raise) 3,560 to 3,560
    YOUNGMONEYS - Folds
    ATHENS67 - Folds
    MG86302 - Folds
    FLEET333 - Folds
    RIVERDANCE77 - All-In 1,130
    BLAKHAWK - Folds
    BTCALI8 - returned (2,410) : not called
    *** FLOP *** [2d 9c 7d]
    *** TURN *** [2d 9c 7d] [7h]
    *** RIVER *** [2d 9c 7d 7h] [5c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    BTCALI8 - Shows [5d 5h] (Full house, fives full of sevens)
    RIVERDANCE77 - Shows [8h 8s] (Two Pair, eights and sevens)
    BTCALI8 Collects 2,340 from main pot
     
     
     
    Stage #382477895 Tourney ID 5771152 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 40 - 2010-10-04 12:45:46 (ET)
    Table: 20 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - NICOLU (1,500 in chips)
    Seat 2 - BTCALI8 (4,403 in chips)
    Seat 3 - YOUNGMONEYS (1,240 in chips)
    Seat 4 - ATHENS67 (3,838 in chips)
    Seat 5 - MG86302 (754 in chips)
    Seat 6 - FLEET333 (2,445 in chips)
    Seat 8 - BLAKHAWK (1,320 in chips)
    Seat 9 - MACKPADDY (1,460 in chips)
    MACKPADDY - Posts small blind 20
    NICOLU - Posts big blind 40
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to FLEET333 [Qs Qh]
    BTCALI8 - All-In(Raise) 4,403 to 4,403
    YOUNGMONEYS - Folds
    ATHENS67 - Folds
    MG86302 - Folds
    FLEET333 - All-In 2,445
    BLAKHAWK - Folds
    MACKPADDY - Folds
    NICOLU - Folds
    BTCALI8 - returned (1,958) : not called
    *** FLOP *** [Ah 7d Ks]
    *** TURN *** [Ah 7d Ks] [5d]
    *** RIVER *** [Ah 7d Ks 5d] [6c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    BTCALI8 - Shows [6s 7s] (Two Pair, sevens and sixes)
    FLEET333 - Shows [Qs Qh] (One pair, queens)
    BTCALI8 Collects 4,950 from main pot

    three rivers this guy hits   ready to give up
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2010 - 12:24 PM ET #2

    Bad beats are part of poker and life. You can do everything right and still get destroyed.

    It is of no use to complain about them... nobody cares : )
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    Bad beats are part of poker and life. You can do everything right and still get destroyed.

    It is of no use to complain about them... nobody cares : )
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2010 - 3:44 PM ET #3

    the subject of this thread makes no sense.  take more care in your every day life and maybe you're poker life will improve
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    the subject of this thread makes no sense.  take more care in your every day life and maybe you're poker life will improve
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2010 - 3:36 PM ET #4

    Example #1:

    Why push with that? You will only get called by hands containing overcards. Then its a luckfest. A raise gains you information. Your chipstack is not low enough to be desperate/greedy. Seat 2 has enough chips to call with that garbage.

    Looking at Examples 2 & 3, it looks like he used Example 1 to take advantage of your tendency to push and not play post-flop poker. When you push, you are hoping that there is not a big hand against you. When you run into one, you are a huge dog.  Learn how to play after the flop, then you won't have to rely on luck to make your good hands hold up.

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    Example #1:

    Why push with that? You will only get called by hands containing overcards. Then its a luckfest. A raise gains you information. Your chipstack is not low enough to be desperate/greedy. Seat 2 has enough chips to call with that garbage.

    Looking at Examples 2 & 3, it looks like he used Example 1 to take advantage of your tendency to push and not play post-flop poker. When you push, you are hoping that there is not a big hand against you. When you run into one, you are a huge dog.  Learn how to play after the flop, then you won't have to rely on luck to make your good hands hold up.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2010 - 2:20 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunners:

    the subject of this thread makes no sense.  take more care in your every day life and maybe you're poker life will improve

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunners:

    the subject of this thread makes no sense.  take more care in your every day life and maybe you're poker life will improve

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2010 - 9:13 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunners:

    the subject of this thread makes no sense.  take more care in your every day life and maybe you're poker life will improve

    true brilliance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunners:

    the subject of this thread makes no sense.  take more care in your every day life and maybe you're poker life will improve

    true brilliance!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2010 - 10:57 PM ET #7

    just make a note the guy likes coin flips if you run up on him again.  He strikes me as the type who likes to coin flip and gamble early on to try and get a big chip stack going.

    Where did you go wrong?  why call an all-in preflop there for your tournament life with QQ when the blinds are at 40 and you're nowhere low in chips?
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    just make a note the guy likes coin flips if you run up on him again.  He strikes me as the type who likes to coin flip and gamble early on to try and get a big chip stack going.

    Where did you go wrong?  why call an all-in preflop there for your tournament life with QQ when the blinds are at 40 and you're nowhere low in chips?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2010 - 1:43 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by jackjaffee:

    just make a note the guy likes coin flips if you run up on him again.  He strikes me as the type who likes to coin flip and gamble early on to try and get a big chip stack going.

    Where did you go wrong?  why call an all-in preflop there for your tournament life with QQ when the blinds are at 40 and you're nowhere low in chips?


    We call the all in because we are going to double up a huge percentage of the time, against this player, in this spot. What is the alternative? Fold QQ to a donk who appears to be shoving w/ any two cards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackjaffee:

    just make a note the guy likes coin flips if you run up on him again.  He strikes me as the type who likes to coin flip and gamble early on to try and get a big chip stack going.

    Where did you go wrong?  why call an all-in preflop there for your tournament life with QQ when the blinds are at 40 and you're nowhere low in chips?


    We call the all in because we are going to double up a huge percentage of the time, against this player, in this spot. What is the alternative? Fold QQ to a donk who appears to be shoving w/ any two cards?
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2010 - 5:00 PM ET #9

    QQ all in call was a good call imo...but an unlucky loss...
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