What is objective? What is objective of who drag US into this war? It has nothing to do with Iranian people. Again agree to disagree.
Right, that is what we were told...we were told that it had to do with protecting the US from nuclear attack....whether one believes that or not, that is what we were told, however it was mentioned in his first press conference about the massacring of their people, so even if it was not the primary objective, there is a slight mention of it so that would mean that it was projected that this could of added to it....you can't ignore the massacre happened and you can't ignore that it was mentioned even if it was to highlight the fact of how bad the regime was....if it wasn't even a small percentage about it, then there would not have been a reason for it to have even been mentioned...if you are asking if I think it was the sole purpose, my answer is no, not even close, but I do believe it was part of the overall reason in totality, but not the sole reason....
The point I am making is that one should not ignore the fact that this regime was killing innocent people in its own country....this regime were know terrorists and funneled money to terrorists groups, and so for that, Iran and the world will be better off without those people in charge....does the situation improve because of it, who knows...too early to project that, but any bad person taken off this earth who wishes to do harm to someone who does not follow their religion or belief is not safe to keep on the planet...this regime was inflicting harm onto others because of that, including Americans.....you can be against the war but for the removal of these people...both can be true....maybe most of you against would not feel the same if you knew or spoke to people who actually live there or know people who still have friends and family living there...I do, and I can tell you the images are bad and the everyday ordinary things each and everyone of us in America take for granted, they do not have those rights there and if they do they are sought out and killed, while we live in a free America to bitch and complain about petty first world problems with no recourse or reprecussions....
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Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
What is objective? What is objective of who drag US into this war? It has nothing to do with Iranian people. Again agree to disagree.
Right, that is what we were told...we were told that it had to do with protecting the US from nuclear attack....whether one believes that or not, that is what we were told, however it was mentioned in his first press conference about the massacring of their people, so even if it was not the primary objective, there is a slight mention of it so that would mean that it was projected that this could of added to it....you can't ignore the massacre happened and you can't ignore that it was mentioned even if it was to highlight the fact of how bad the regime was....if it wasn't even a small percentage about it, then there would not have been a reason for it to have even been mentioned...if you are asking if I think it was the sole purpose, my answer is no, not even close, but I do believe it was part of the overall reason in totality, but not the sole reason....
The point I am making is that one should not ignore the fact that this regime was killing innocent people in its own country....this regime were know terrorists and funneled money to terrorists groups, and so for that, Iran and the world will be better off without those people in charge....does the situation improve because of it, who knows...too early to project that, but any bad person taken off this earth who wishes to do harm to someone who does not follow their religion or belief is not safe to keep on the planet...this regime was inflicting harm onto others because of that, including Americans.....you can be against the war but for the removal of these people...both can be true....maybe most of you against would not feel the same if you knew or spoke to people who actually live there or know people who still have friends and family living there...I do, and I can tell you the images are bad and the everyday ordinary things each and everyone of us in America take for granted, they do not have those rights there and if they do they are sought out and killed, while we live in a free America to bitch and complain about petty first world problems with no recourse or reprecussions....
I am for the removal of that regime. Which one of the many regimes around the world that also suppress their citizens rights do you think US/Israel will free next?
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I am for the removal of that regime. Which one of the many regimes around the world that also suppress their citizens rights do you think US/Israel will free next?
If there is US interest in the region and it is an issue for America or its allies then I assume US would step in....I think one of the issues people have with this military exercise is that they think it is tainted with the inclusion of Israel....many do not like nor support Israel, but they are our ally in the region and that is enough to support...without their intelligence in the region I am not sure how effective we would have been in this operation....we need/needed an ally in that region and Israel has been it for over 70 years...the argument about helping every humanitarian effort is not the point...if the humanitarian effort is in support of an ally or NATO member then the US will join the effort...suppressing citizens is not the issue for interference, it is the act of killing its people for no reason in an area of the world that has US interest..citizens rising up to have their freedom back is not a reason to be killing them....and yes, they had freedom back in the 70's before this regime took over...they want that freedom back and I don't blame them....like I said, is it the main reason or cause why this is happening, no, but I would not overlook the fact that this was happening....it was really a matter of a couple to a few days where 30-40 thousand protestors were killed....and it wasn't even that, people who were injured and went to seek help in the hospital those doctors and nurses were killed if they helped their citizens....kids and women being raped by the IRGC/regime and killed....since the bombings started, many Iranians are screaming and yelling with joy every time a bomb dropped..they were having parties to celebrate....what has the IRGC/regime been doing now, if they hear or see this they have been going to those places and executing those people....it is not a normal world over there and because the US has a vested interest in the region over there, we will step in...would we have stepped in if it was just that and there were no other reasons....not sure any of us can answer that because the massacres started back in January...it could have certainly aided in the decision, who knows, but it is one of many reasons for the conflict....we helped Ukraine for humanitarian aide and supplied weapons and spent billions...all to fight mighty Russia....for what?
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If there is US interest in the region and it is an issue for America or its allies then I assume US would step in....I think one of the issues people have with this military exercise is that they think it is tainted with the inclusion of Israel....many do not like nor support Israel, but they are our ally in the region and that is enough to support...without their intelligence in the region I am not sure how effective we would have been in this operation....we need/needed an ally in that region and Israel has been it for over 70 years...the argument about helping every humanitarian effort is not the point...if the humanitarian effort is in support of an ally or NATO member then the US will join the effort...suppressing citizens is not the issue for interference, it is the act of killing its people for no reason in an area of the world that has US interest..citizens rising up to have their freedom back is not a reason to be killing them....and yes, they had freedom back in the 70's before this regime took over...they want that freedom back and I don't blame them....like I said, is it the main reason or cause why this is happening, no, but I would not overlook the fact that this was happening....it was really a matter of a couple to a few days where 30-40 thousand protestors were killed....and it wasn't even that, people who were injured and went to seek help in the hospital those doctors and nurses were killed if they helped their citizens....kids and women being raped by the IRGC/regime and killed....since the bombings started, many Iranians are screaming and yelling with joy every time a bomb dropped..they were having parties to celebrate....what has the IRGC/regime been doing now, if they hear or see this they have been going to those places and executing those people....it is not a normal world over there and because the US has a vested interest in the region over there, we will step in...would we have stepped in if it was just that and there were no other reasons....not sure any of us can answer that because the massacres started back in January...it could have certainly aided in the decision, who knows, but it is one of many reasons for the conflict....we helped Ukraine for humanitarian aide and supplied weapons and spent billions...all to fight mighty Russia....for what?
It is a bit strange that the argument for trump's feeling in his bones that Iran was going to attack us is just stupid,other than terror attacks there is nothing they can do to America. But the argument that Iran killed protesters for reason is just silly, he sent his armed 'former insurrectionist' masked, with machine guns to murder people that disagree with him on his illegal policies.
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It is a bit strange that the argument for trump's feeling in his bones that Iran was going to attack us is just stupid,other than terror attacks there is nothing they can do to America. But the argument that Iran killed protesters for reason is just silly, he sent his armed 'former insurrectionist' masked, with machine guns to murder people that disagree with him on his illegal policies.
If there is US interest in the region and it is an issue for America or its allies then I assume US would step in....I think one of the issues people have with this military exercise is that they think it is tainted with the inclusion of Israel....many do not like nor support Israel, but they are our ally in the region and that is enough to support...without their intelligence in the region I am not sure how effective we would have been in this operation....we need/needed an ally in that region and Israel has been it for over 70 years...the argument about helping every humanitarian effort is not the point...if the humanitarian effort is in support of an ally or NATO member then the US will join the effort...suppressing citizens is not the issue for interference, it is the act of killing its people for no reason in an area of the world that has US interest..citizens rising up to have their freedom back is not a reason to be killing them....and yes, they had freedom back in the 70's before this regime took over...they want that freedom back and I don't blame them....like I said, is it the main reason or cause why this is happening, no, but I would not overlook the fact that this was happening....it was really a matter of a couple to a few days where 30-40 thousand protestors were killed....and it wasn't even that, people who were injured and went to seek help in the hospital those doctors and nurses were killed if they helped their citizens....kids and women being raped by the IRGC/regime and killed....since the bombings started, many Iranians are screaming and yelling with joy every time a bomb dropped..they were having parties to celebrate....what has the IRGC/regime been doing now, if they hear or see this they have been going to those places and executing those people....it is not a normal world over there and because the US has a vested interest in the region over there, we will step in...would we have stepped in if it was just that and there were no other reasons....not sure any of us can answer that because the massacres started back in January...it could have certainly aided in the decision, who knows, but it is one of many reasons for the conflict....we helped Ukraine for humanitarian aide and supplied weapons and spent billions...all to fight mighty Russia....for what?
My son who will be 20 in couple weeks at university taking engineering, his book learning is much better then mine. Asked me other day, “why do you waste energy on arguing with anyone online?” If he was living here I would have told him to go to his room. But he gets it.
I feel like this is a face to face conversation, nothing on interweb matters.
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
If there is US interest in the region and it is an issue for America or its allies then I assume US would step in....I think one of the issues people have with this military exercise is that they think it is tainted with the inclusion of Israel....many do not like nor support Israel, but they are our ally in the region and that is enough to support...without their intelligence in the region I am not sure how effective we would have been in this operation....we need/needed an ally in that region and Israel has been it for over 70 years...the argument about helping every humanitarian effort is not the point...if the humanitarian effort is in support of an ally or NATO member then the US will join the effort...suppressing citizens is not the issue for interference, it is the act of killing its people for no reason in an area of the world that has US interest..citizens rising up to have their freedom back is not a reason to be killing them....and yes, they had freedom back in the 70's before this regime took over...they want that freedom back and I don't blame them....like I said, is it the main reason or cause why this is happening, no, but I would not overlook the fact that this was happening....it was really a matter of a couple to a few days where 30-40 thousand protestors were killed....and it wasn't even that, people who were injured and went to seek help in the hospital those doctors and nurses were killed if they helped their citizens....kids and women being raped by the IRGC/regime and killed....since the bombings started, many Iranians are screaming and yelling with joy every time a bomb dropped..they were having parties to celebrate....what has the IRGC/regime been doing now, if they hear or see this they have been going to those places and executing those people....it is not a normal world over there and because the US has a vested interest in the region over there, we will step in...would we have stepped in if it was just that and there were no other reasons....not sure any of us can answer that because the massacres started back in January...it could have certainly aided in the decision, who knows, but it is one of many reasons for the conflict....we helped Ukraine for humanitarian aide and supplied weapons and spent billions...all to fight mighty Russia....for what?
My son who will be 20 in couple weeks at university taking engineering, his book learning is much better then mine. Asked me other day, “why do you waste energy on arguing with anyone online?” If he was living here I would have told him to go to his room. But he gets it.
I feel like this is a face to face conversation, nothing on interweb matters.
Pointless war. War of choice. When your own Secretary of Incursion can’t even verbalize the reason of why we bombed the shit out of Iran, the USA is adrift in hyperbole and stupidity.
The biggest cowards, Trump and Hegseth, do the biggest tough guy talking.
Give it a rest.
Keep at it.
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Pointless war. War of choice. When your own Secretary of Incursion can’t even verbalize the reason of why we bombed the shit out of Iran, the USA is adrift in hyperbole and stupidity.
The biggest cowards, Trump and Hegseth, do the biggest tough guy talking.
Ok another one lets’s do some mathematics joe was on tilt , he got his last money to wager, a $100 He chose a parlay of 3 teams to win $450 click 1. Bulls over click 2. minnesota over click 3. Lakers over all 3 won how much money joe have now ?
duh… wrong
still $100
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Quote Originally Posted by Miracling2:
Ok another one lets’s do some mathematics joe was on tilt , he got his last money to wager, a $100 He chose a parlay of 3 teams to win $450 click 1. Bulls over click 2. minnesota over click 3. Lakers over all 3 won how much money joe have now ?
Yea, whiskey is for a special group....it can get you loopy and disoriented before you know, but over time you can master it....any new people that I know are trying whiskey I try to tell them that it will creep up on you, like tequila kinda, and so be careful....do they listen, no....
To me the taste is like no other and I know the expected outcome should I over indulge....
When I drank beer, or if still occasionally indulge, I go for the Hefeweizen...I do like the taste of it
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Yea, whiskey is for a special group....it can get you loopy and disoriented before you know, but over time you can master it....any new people that I know are trying whiskey I try to tell them that it will creep up on you, like tequila kinda, and so be careful....do they listen, no....
To me the taste is like no other and I know the expected outcome should I over indulge....
When I drank beer, or if still occasionally indulge, I go for the Hefeweizen...I do like the taste of it
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