@SarasotaSlim
Russia is not communist! ![]()
What??!! LOL!
What??!! LOL!
Well,they eliminate poliitical opponents,, prevent fair elections, prohibiting a free press and amending the constitution to enable Putin to remain in power for another 10 years..
That sounds a lot more like Communism then a free democracy................![]()
Well,they eliminate poliitical opponents,, prevent fair elections, prohibiting a free press and amending the constitution to enable Putin to remain in power for another 10 years..
That sounds a lot more like Communism then a free democracy................![]()
@SarasotaSlim
Communism has nothing to do with causing fair elections & killing folks! You can’t have Communism or Socialism without the Masses!
Communism is Democracy the masses rule! It’s bottom up management! There’s no CEO or Leader! Sarasota you are suffering from Western Mind Control, you are brainwashed to hate what your Oligarchs hate, they feed you Nonsense & make you a fool!
Lenin stated he failed to convert Russia to Communism then Stalin tried & failed! There’s no such thing as a Communist Dictator!
Stalin was a dictator from Georgia not Russia his #2 was from Ukraine not Russia! Stalin was a dictator of an Authoritarian Technocratic Government that ruled over Republics using a CENTRALIZED ECONOMY not a Market Driven Economy = USA. Stalin believed in Communism & tried to turn Russia Communist according to his memoirs.
USSR was a Technocracy made up of Republics governed by an AUTHORITARIAN Gov made up of Engineers, Scientists, = Propeller Heads who called themselves Communist who controlled a Centralized Economy. The 3 Great Powers KGB, Military, & Political class battled each other over control of the USSR.
Today Russia is an Authoritarian Gov with a Democratically elected President & a MARKET Driven economy! Russian elections are fair today it’s the USA that has fixed elections.
@SarasotaSlim
Communism has nothing to do with causing fair elections & killing folks! You can’t have Communism or Socialism without the Masses!
Communism is Democracy the masses rule! It’s bottom up management! There’s no CEO or Leader! Sarasota you are suffering from Western Mind Control, you are brainwashed to hate what your Oligarchs hate, they feed you Nonsense & make you a fool!
Lenin stated he failed to convert Russia to Communism then Stalin tried & failed! There’s no such thing as a Communist Dictator!
Stalin was a dictator from Georgia not Russia his #2 was from Ukraine not Russia! Stalin was a dictator of an Authoritarian Technocratic Government that ruled over Republics using a CENTRALIZED ECONOMY not a Market Driven Economy = USA. Stalin believed in Communism & tried to turn Russia Communist according to his memoirs.
USSR was a Technocracy made up of Republics governed by an AUTHORITARIAN Gov made up of Engineers, Scientists, = Propeller Heads who called themselves Communist who controlled a Centralized Economy. The 3 Great Powers KGB, Military, & Political class battled each other over control of the USSR.
Today Russia is an Authoritarian Gov with a Democratically elected President & a MARKET Driven economy! Russian elections are fair today it’s the USA that has fixed elections.
@FresnoHawk68
No matter what they say or what they call them self's ......As long as the Russians use the hammer and sickle in their symbols..they are communist ... is a specific symbol representing the unity of the proletariat and peasantry, central to Marxist-Leninist ideology.....
The Communist Party of the Russian Federation (KPRF) still has 56 seats in the State Duma...........Russia's state flag not only has the sickle and hammer on it ,but the 5 point red star historically been associated with communist ideology ...
@FresnoHawk68
No matter what they say or what they call them self's ......As long as the Russians use the hammer and sickle in their symbols..they are communist ... is a specific symbol representing the unity of the proletariat and peasantry, central to Marxist-Leninist ideology.....
The Communist Party of the Russian Federation (KPRF) still has 56 seats in the State Duma...........Russia's state flag not only has the sickle and hammer on it ,but the 5 point red star historically been associated with communist ideology ...
He did ... he said ......" You are clueless!!!"
He did ... he said ......" You are clueless!!!"
@SarasotaSlim
True! But so what? Communism is not Evil nor should it be presented as such! Why didn’t you mentioned the Communist Party is the Opposition Party to Putin who is a Christian?
@SarasotaSlim
True! But so what? Communism is not Evil nor should it be presented as such! Why didn’t you mentioned the Communist Party is the Opposition Party to Putin who is a Christian?
According to Isserman, “By 1938, the party counted 38,000 members in New York State, about half its national membership, and most of those lived in New York City. Communists were increasingly native-born (although many were the children of immigrants). Party-organized mass meetings in the old Madison Square Garden were packed with as many as 20,000 participants; the annual May Day parades drew tens of thousands, too.”
Isserman pointed to 1956 as the moment when, “the party was dealt a fatal blow when the Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev, delivered a 'secret speech' to the 20th party congress in Moscow, denouncing his predecessor, Stalin, as a bloody mass murderer. The speech leaked. So did the disillusioned membership of the Communist Party U.S.A., reduced to a few thousand members by 1958, and never recovering much beyond that in decades to come. It did, however, survive the collapse of its political inspiration, the Soviet experiment.”
Khrushchev & peeps didn’t believe in the Communism ideology!
According to Isserman, “By 1938, the party counted 38,000 members in New York State, about half its national membership, and most of those lived in New York City. Communists were increasingly native-born (although many were the children of immigrants). Party-organized mass meetings in the old Madison Square Garden were packed with as many as 20,000 participants; the annual May Day parades drew tens of thousands, too.”
Isserman pointed to 1956 as the moment when, “the party was dealt a fatal blow when the Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev, delivered a 'secret speech' to the 20th party congress in Moscow, denouncing his predecessor, Stalin, as a bloody mass murderer. The speech leaked. So did the disillusioned membership of the Communist Party U.S.A., reduced to a few thousand members by 1958, and never recovering much beyond that in decades to come. It did, however, survive the collapse of its political inspiration, the Soviet experiment.”
Khrushchev & peeps didn’t believe in the Communism ideology!
Khrushchev’s goal to "catch up and overtake" the United States in economic and scientific productivity created a receptive environment for computerized economic control
Cyberneticists and engineers (such as Anatoly Kitov) proposed using computer networks and automated feedback loops to manage and optimize the sluggish Soviet civilian economy
Cybernetics is a very peculiar historical phenomenon. It can be classified neither as a conventional scientific discipline, nor as an engineering approach, nor as a philosophical doctrine, although it somewhat resembles each of them. As presented in Norbert Wiener's 1948 seminal book, , cybernetics comprised an assembly of analogies between people and machines: human behavior was compared to the operation of a servomechanism, human communication was likened to the transmission of signals over telephone lines, the human brain was compared to the digital computer both structurally and functionally, life was identified with information and order, and death with entropy and disorder.
Again the CIA classified USSR as a Technocracy because they were. Today Russia’s S-550 Air Defense System is scientifically beyond USA understanding & Russia’s Doomsday Sub with Nuclear Torpedoes have won the Cold War for Russia! USA is simply outclassed & will lose any type of War with Russia, especially a Nuclear War.
You keep believing some Flag with a Symbol means USA is better in any way, I’ll judge using Technology as the primary variable.
Khrushchev’s goal to "catch up and overtake" the United States in economic and scientific productivity created a receptive environment for computerized economic control
Cyberneticists and engineers (such as Anatoly Kitov) proposed using computer networks and automated feedback loops to manage and optimize the sluggish Soviet civilian economy
Cybernetics is a very peculiar historical phenomenon. It can be classified neither as a conventional scientific discipline, nor as an engineering approach, nor as a philosophical doctrine, although it somewhat resembles each of them. As presented in Norbert Wiener's 1948 seminal book, , cybernetics comprised an assembly of analogies between people and machines: human behavior was compared to the operation of a servomechanism, human communication was likened to the transmission of signals over telephone lines, the human brain was compared to the digital computer both structurally and functionally, life was identified with information and order, and death with entropy and disorder.
Again the CIA classified USSR as a Technocracy because they were. Today Russia’s S-550 Air Defense System is scientifically beyond USA understanding & Russia’s Doomsday Sub with Nuclear Torpedoes have won the Cold War for Russia! USA is simply outclassed & will lose any type of War with Russia, especially a Nuclear War.
You keep believing some Flag with a Symbol means USA is better in any way, I’ll judge using Technology as the primary variable.
Why should I ? I didn't bring religion into the thread you did ..
Why should I ? I didn't bring religion into the thread you did ..
"When, at the age of twelve, at the time of the Russian revolution, I first heard the Communist principle that Man must exist for the sake of the State, I perceived that this was the essential issue, that this principle was evil, and that it could lead to nothing but evil, regardless of any methods, details, decrees, policies, promises and pious platitudes. This was the reason for my opposition to Communism then—and it is my reason now. I am still a little astonished, at times, that too many adult Americans do not understand the nature of the fight against Communism as clearly as I understood it at the age of twelve: they continue to believe that only Communist methods are evil, while Communist ideals are noble. All the victories of Communism since the year 1917 are due to that particular belief among the men who are still free." -- AYN RAND
"When, at the age of twelve, at the time of the Russian revolution, I first heard the Communist principle that Man must exist for the sake of the State, I perceived that this was the essential issue, that this principle was evil, and that it could lead to nothing but evil, regardless of any methods, details, decrees, policies, promises and pious platitudes. This was the reason for my opposition to Communism then—and it is my reason now. I am still a little astonished, at times, that too many adult Americans do not understand the nature of the fight against Communism as clearly as I understood it at the age of twelve: they continue to believe that only Communist methods are evil, while Communist ideals are noble. All the victories of Communism since the year 1917 are due to that particular belief among the men who are still free." -- AYN RAND
Terror has always been one of the basic ingredients of modern Communism. Let us abandon once and for all the idea that the execution of hostages by firing squads, the slaughter of rebellious workers, and the forced starvation of the peasantry were only short-term "accidents" peculiar to a specific country or era.... " ~ The Black Book of communism:crimes,Terror,Repression..
Terror has always been one of the basic ingredients of modern Communism. Let us abandon once and for all the idea that the execution of hostages by firing squads, the slaughter of rebellious workers, and the forced starvation of the peasantry were only short-term "accidents" peculiar to a specific country or era.... " ~ The Black Book of communism:crimes,Terror,Repression..
@SarasotaSlim
Again there’s no Country on Earth that has been Communist! If you’re saying in an attempt to become a Communist Country every time it’s led to Murder & Mayheim say that!
Really man, please use your brain! What is your College Degree in?
@SarasotaSlim
Again there’s no Country on Earth that has been Communist! If you’re saying in an attempt to become a Communist Country every time it’s led to Murder & Mayheim say that!
Really man, please use your brain! What is your College Degree in?

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