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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 6:25 AM ET #601

    Quote Originally Posted by atxcojo:

    Yo Pitt...was just gonna pick your brain for a hot second.

    You obviously have good knowledge of financial management, which is in my opinion the most important part of sports betting. What situational, motivational,statistical,  and other angles do you look at when capping your games? I wish you the best of luck, and any knowledge/information that you can share is greatly appreciated.

    First off nice avatar. I like to look for a variety of factors. I'll break it down briefly for each thing you asked:

    Situational: I like to bet on a winning team that is in the middle of the pack (with say a few wins in their past five and 6+ in their past ten) who are getting points on the road vs. a good or middle of the pack home team who has been losing recently (like . My reason: The public likes to bet the home team always, of course and love
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    I also like hot middle of the pack teams at home against public road favourites (like Memphis tonight at home vs. Lakers). The wrong team is favoured in this game because no matter who the Lakers are playing, if Kobe is playing there will be good money on them. The lakers are physically and emotionally drained from this long road trip and are now on the road for their 8th and, key part, FINAL game. Their next game will be at home and they will be looking forward to it. While Memphis is a up and coming team in the middle of the pack looking for a playoff spot, off a days rest. You need to look for multiple situations like that.

    I love betting against teams who are on the road playing a meaningless game, when their previous game was an emotionally and physically draining game such as games vs. the top teams in the league (or ranked teams in college) or division rivals, or games that wen't to overtime or double overtime .. and their next game is against a top tier team or divisional/conference team at home. Remember they have to be on the road (at home they usually still show up for the fans) and this strategy works betting college, when athletes are younger and more susceptible to letdown games like these. In the pro leagues, it works well when the playoff race heats up and the teams play division games or a game against playoff teams at home or on the road, then go on the road for to play a lower tier team (or a middle tier team driving for the playoffs if they are in the opposing conference) and the home team is getting a fair amount of points. Their next game has to be against a playoff team or divisional game as well. These situations occur a lot more then you would expect though, especially in college football where they occur practically every week.

    There are lots of winning situations out there but remember just the situation won't win the bet there has to be other factors for making the pick. As for knowing all the situations, the longer you wager,  and the more you study and invest your time into learning, the better you are at picking up when teams are in good situations and if they will be physically healthy as well as emotionally healthy. The Gilbert Arenas drama obviously emotionally drained the team. Teams with lots of attention can easily be emotionally drained .. you just need to look outside the box when analyzing games.


    There are honestly many good motivational, situational and statistical angles to look at with betting and you could write a book about it in two hours, but the bottom line is that you just need to spend your time watching and reading about sports objectively to learn about the teams chemistry and situational information, watch opening lines and how quickly they move and see if you can find a reason why the line moved and ask yourself why did this line open at this number instead of another number. Things like this you learn, and after years it all kind of comes to you with out much of a thought process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atxcojo:

    Yo Pitt...was just gonna pick your brain for a hot second.

    You obviously have good knowledge of financial management, which is in my opinion the most important part of sports betting. What situational, motivational,statistical,  and other angles do you look at when capping your games? I wish you the best of luck, and any knowledge/information that you can share is greatly appreciated.

    First off nice avatar. I like to look for a variety of factors. I'll break it down briefly for each thing you asked:

    Situational: I like to bet on a winning team that is in the middle of the pack (with say a few wins in their past five and 6+ in their past ten) who are getting points on the road vs. a good or middle of the pack home team who has been losing recently (like . My reason: The public likes to bet the home team always, of course and love
     home fa

    I also like hot middle of the pack teams at home against public road favourites (like Memphis tonight at home vs. Lakers). The wrong team is favoured in this game because no matter who the Lakers are playing, if Kobe is playing there will be good money on them. The lakers are physically and emotionally drained from this long road trip and are now on the road for their 8th and, key part, FINAL game. Their next game will be at home and they will be looking forward to it. While Memphis is a up and coming team in the middle of the pack looking for a playoff spot, off a days rest. You need to look for multiple situations like that.

    I love betting against teams who are on the road playing a meaningless game, when their previous game was an emotionally and physically draining game such as games vs. the top teams in the league (or ranked teams in college) or division rivals, or games that wen't to overtime or double overtime .. and their next game is against a top tier team or divisional/conference team at home. Remember they have to be on the road (at home they usually still show up for the fans) and this strategy works betting college, when athletes are younger and more susceptible to letdown games like these. In the pro leagues, it works well when the playoff race heats up and the teams play division games or a game against playoff teams at home or on the road, then go on the road for to play a lower tier team (or a middle tier team driving for the playoffs if they are in the opposing conference) and the home team is getting a fair amount of points. Their next game has to be against a playoff team or divisional game as well. These situations occur a lot more then you would expect though, especially in college football where they occur practically every week.

    There are lots of winning situations out there but remember just the situation won't win the bet there has to be other factors for making the pick. As for knowing all the situations, the longer you wager,  and the more you study and invest your time into learning, the better you are at picking up when teams are in good situations and if they will be physically healthy as well as emotionally healthy. The Gilbert Arenas drama obviously emotionally drained the team. Teams with lots of attention can easily be emotionally drained .. you just need to look outside the box when analyzing games.


    There are honestly many good motivational, situational and statistical angles to look at with betting and you could write a book about it in two hours, but the bottom line is that you just need to spend your time watching and reading about sports objectively to learn about the teams chemistry and situational information, watch opening lines and how quickly they move and see if you can find a reason why the line moved and ask yourself why did this line open at this number instead of another number. Things like this you learn, and after years it all kind of comes to you with out much of a thought process.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 6:30 AM ET #602

    Quote Originally Posted by sideJOBplay:

    thanks very much PIT for your love

    keep up your great work. it very much appricated by me

    sorry for my  bad spelling but i think u can see it haha

     new week and having you to share the love to us. much me feel much better banging the fresh week

     

    BOL  PIT

    lets cash this in


    Thanks man, make sure to bet within your limits. While 5% or less is recommend for most bankrolls, if your bankroll is small and you are sticking to only two games per day 10% or 15% is not the end of the world until you can build your bankroll up to where you need it to be and then lower it back to say 5%. Flat betting is smartest also I have found. It is much easier to predict what your average record will be over the course of a 100 days then predicting how many 5 unit bets you'll win, how many 2 unit bets you'll win, and how many 1 unit bets you'll win. 

    Keep it simple, bet within your limits, use good money management and we can all beat the man .. or at least survive the man, for some people losing lots of money that is more important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sideJOBplay:

    thanks very much PIT for your love

    keep up your great work. it very much appricated by me

    sorry for my  bad spelling but i think u can see it haha

     new week and having you to share the love to us. much me feel much better banging the fresh week

     

    BOL  PIT

    lets cash this in


    Thanks man, make sure to bet within your limits. While 5% or less is recommend for most bankrolls, if your bankroll is small and you are sticking to only two games per day 10% or 15% is not the end of the world until you can build your bankroll up to where you need it to be and then lower it back to say 5%. Flat betting is smartest also I have found. It is much easier to predict what your average record will be over the course of a 100 days then predicting how many 5 unit bets you'll win, how many 2 unit bets you'll win, and how many 1 unit bets you'll win. 

    Keep it simple, bet within your limits, use good money management and we can all beat the man .. or at least survive the man, for some people losing lots of money that is more important.

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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 6:53 AM ET #603

    Liking the Memphis
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 6:54 AM ET #604

    Tnx for writeups Pitt and keep it up, great run u have there at 74 %! 

    GL!!
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    Tnx for writeups Pitt and keep it up, great run u have there at 74 %! 

    GL!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 7:49 AM ET #605

    Quote Originally Posted by Controller:

    Tnx for writeups Pitt and keep it up, great run u have there at 74 %! 

    GL!!

    Not to brag but it is 79%. Unless you are talking about my NBA%.

    Thanks guys, and GL tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controller:

    Tnx for writeups Pitt and keep it up, great run u have there at 74 %! 

    GL!!

    Not to brag but it is 79%. Unless you are talking about my NBA%.

    Thanks guys, and GL tonight.

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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 7:59 AM ET #606

    Quote Originally Posted by pittviper:


    Situational: I like to bet on a winning team that is in the middle of the pack (with say a few wins in their past five and 6+ in their past ten) who are getting points on the road vs. a good or middle of the pack home team who has been losing recently (like . My reason: The public likes to bet the home team always, of course and love
     home fa

    I didn't finish that thought. The public like to bet the home team anyways and the public usually see's the home team and the good home record (as understandably most good and middle teams have) so they automatically like the home favourite, and on lots of these lines are juiced a couple points extra, with the sportsbooks knowing early money will be coming on the fav. The sharps will likely wait in this situation for the line to rise a half point or point even more, or sometimes don't believe the line will rise anymore and hit it right away.

    Another point is, I don't bet road teams though unless they have proven that they can win on the road. If they have a road record under 45%, there needs to be lots of other factors in their favor to justify a bet from me. 

    I also look to see how teams have played against similar teams to their opponent and what their records are against such teams. An example is a middle of the pack team playing a team in the top 10 of the league and look at their record vs. such teams and if they have held their own. If they are near 50/50 and are playing at home and are underdogs that sometimes warrants a bet by itself. Memphis is once again an example of that, they a 7-9 this season against top 10 teams .. that number would likely be much better if they were playing all those games at home as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittviper:


    Situational: I like to bet on a winning team that is in the middle of the pack (with say a few wins in their past five and 6+ in their past ten) who are getting points on the road vs. a good or middle of the pack home team who has been losing recently (like . My reason: The public likes to bet the home team always, of course and love
     home fa

    I didn't finish that thought. The public like to bet the home team anyways and the public usually see's the home team and the good home record (as understandably most good and middle teams have) so they automatically like the home favourite, and on lots of these lines are juiced a couple points extra, with the sportsbooks knowing early money will be coming on the fav. The sharps will likely wait in this situation for the line to rise a half point or point even more, or sometimes don't believe the line will rise anymore and hit it right away.

    Another point is, I don't bet road teams though unless they have proven that they can win on the road. If they have a road record under 45%, there needs to be lots of other factors in their favor to justify a bet from me. 

    I also look to see how teams have played against similar teams to their opponent and what their records are against such teams. An example is a middle of the pack team playing a team in the top 10 of the league and look at their record vs. such teams and if they have held their own. If they are near 50/50 and are playing at home and are underdogs that sometimes warrants a bet by itself. Memphis is once again an example of that, they a 7-9 this season against top 10 teams .. that number would likely be much better if they were playing all those games at home as well.

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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 8:02 AM ET #607

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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 8:02 AM ET #608

    Thanks burgs. GL tonight.
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 8:07 AM ET #609

    you should start a new thread
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 8:25 AM ET #610

    Pitt this is awesome way to manage money man .. after loosing hell of a lot of money i am actually going to follow this method from now on..
    It sure will be slow but its the best in the long run.

    good luck man

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    Pitt this is awesome way to manage money man .. after loosing hell of a lot of money i am actually going to follow this method from now on..
    It sure will be slow but its the best in the long run.

    good luck man

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 8:29 AM ET #611

    not to mention Celtics killed me yesterday.. after that i was just about to quit gambling but i think ur method excellent .. its hard to loose all ur bank roll in one game
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    not to mention Celtics killed me yesterday.. after that i was just about to quit gambling but i think ur method excellent .. its hard to loose all ur bank roll in one game
     
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    PV, Good luck tonight.. You didn't respond to my post however..You must have forgot about it.. Thanks
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    PV, Good luck tonight.. You didn't respond to my post however..You must have forgot about it.. Thanks
     
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    Thanks guys. Unstoppable force, ill look for your question later today and answer it.

    Also, just posted my Superbowl pick in the football section, if interested.

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    Thanks guys. Unstoppable force, ill look for your question later today and answer it.

    Also, just posted my Superbowl pick in the football section, if interested.

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    Why even mention Kobe and a buzzer beater..There is buzzer beater's by 3 points too you know. I like Memphis as well.
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    Why even mention Kobe and a buzzer beater..There is buzzer beater's by 3 points too you know. I like Memphis as well.
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 9:27 AM ET #615

    Quote Originally Posted by Unstoppable Force:

    Why even mention Kobe and a buzzer beater..There is buzzer beater's by 3 points too you know. I like Memphis as well.
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    If you wan't to bring math and history into this, the odds of the Lakers, or Kobe, himself hitting a 3 point buzzer beater with the score tied are MUCH less then the odds of them hitting a buzzer beater down 1 or 2 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unstoppable Force:

    Why even mention Kobe and a buzzer beater..There is buzzer beater's by 3 points too you know. I like Memphis as well.
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    If you wan't to bring math and history into this, the odds of the Lakers, or Kobe, himself hitting a 3 point buzzer beater with the score tied are MUCH less then the odds of them hitting a buzzer beater down 1 or 2 points.

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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 9:28 AM ET #616

    Post # 606.

    I use this strategy with Football. The most important being my 15 years experience with all  situations that have been cataloged in my data base that I can go back and view for reference.I   also keep a pure points stat math model on all matchups going back several years.

    Overall experience is key  to sports wagering

    Still in the learning stages with the B.Ball

     

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    Post # 606.

    I use this strategy with Football. The most important being my 15 years experience with all  situations that have been cataloged in my data base that I can go back and view for reference.I   also keep a pure points stat math model on all matchups going back several years.

    Overall experience is key  to sports wagering

    Still in the learning stages with the B.Ball

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 9:42 AM ET #617

    Quote Originally Posted by pittviper:

    Thanks guys. Unstoppable force, ill look for your question later today and answer it.

    Also, just posted my Superbowl pick in the football section, if interested.

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    Football is my forte, and you're spot on my friend...spot on.

     I remember a similar SB situation when STL Rams went to the SB for the second time playing NE. NE was a +14pt underdog.That was one of  my Great value plays there and they won the game SU. I went back and viewed the stat math model of that SB matchup and compared it to this upcoming games stat math model matchup. Big time dog and ML play is in order. Indy second time around. Public and media building them up like they will beat NO by 3 TD's.Ive been here before, the writing is on the wall

    Thanks for  posting your plays

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittviper:

    Thanks guys. Unstoppable force, ill look for your question later today and answer it.

    Also, just posted my Superbowl pick in the football section, if interested.

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    Football is my forte, and you're spot on my friend...spot on.

     I remember a similar SB situation when STL Rams went to the SB for the second time playing NE. NE was a +14pt underdog.That was one of  my Great value plays there and they won the game SU. I went back and viewed the stat math model of that SB matchup and compared it to this upcoming games stat math model matchup. Big time dog and ML play is in order. Indy second time around. Public and media building them up like they will beat NO by 3 TD's.Ive been here before, the writing is on the wall

    Thanks for  posting your plays

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 9:57 AM ET #618

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    Nice write up bro. Really respect your insight. I was looking at the Memphis game as well even after they pissed on me Saturday nite. Do think it would be better to lock in now @ +2 and buy it to 2.5 or do you think more money comes in on the Lake Show driving the number up. BOL with your plays

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    Nice write up bro. Really respect your insight. I was looking at the Memphis game as well even after they pissed on me Saturday nite. Do think it would be better to lock in now @ +2 and buy it to 2.5 or do you think more money comes in on the Lake Show driving the number up. BOL with your plays

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 10:03 AM ET #619

    Ahh pittviper... The first post I look at every morning.Thanks for all the insight and work you put in.
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    Ahh pittviper... The first post I look at every morning.Thanks for all the insight and work you put in.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 10:30 AM ET #621

    On Both

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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 10:52 AM ET #622

    Nice job Viper.  Much respect.  All business and no BS.  Pages full of weath and knowledge. 

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    Nice job Viper.  Much respect.  All business and no BS.  Pages full of weath and knowledge. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 11:06 AM ET #623

    Pittviper...thank you for taking the time for that write-up.

    I took 5 point teaser Memphis +7 Iona -5. I lost yesterday, and just made that bet to re-coup all my losses hopefully. I then took another 5 point teaser on: Boston +.5 - Boston under 196 - Iona under 132 - UConn + 11.5 and Texas +3. What do you think my chances are on that teaser? Its in already, so it is just an open ended question. GL to all. Word.

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    Pittviper...thank you for taking the time for that write-up.

    I took 5 point teaser Memphis +7 Iona -5. I lost yesterday, and just made that bet to re-coup all my losses hopefully. I then took another 5 point teaser on: Boston +.5 - Boston under 196 - Iona under 132 - UConn + 11.5 and Texas +3. What do you think my chances are on that teaser? Its in already, so it is just an open ended question. GL to all. Word.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Tical-:

    Pittviper...thank you for taking the time for that write-up.

    I took 5 point teaser Memphis +7 Iona -5. I lost yesterday, and just made that bet to re-coup all my losses hopefully. I then took another 5 point teaser on: Boston +.5 - Boston under 196 - Iona under 132 - UConn + 11.5 and Texas +3. What do you think my chances are on that teaser? Its in already, so it is just an open ended question. GL to all. Word.

    Nice Teasers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Tical-:

    Pittviper...thank you for taking the time for that write-up.

    I took 5 point teaser Memphis +7 Iona -5. I lost yesterday, and just made that bet to re-coup all my losses hopefully. I then took another 5 point teaser on: Boston +.5 - Boston under 196 - Iona under 132 - UConn + 11.5 and Texas +3. What do you think my chances are on that teaser? Its in already, so it is just an open ended question. GL to all. Word.

    Nice Teasers!

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2010 - 11:26 AM ET #625

    Thank you Wizerguy. I have read some of your posts and evidently you have been keeping your eye on lines for sometime now. I took the Colts +1.5 over 49.5 last Tuesday because I was afraid of the line pushing to over -6.5. I like the fact you think the Colts are gonna roll, as I do too.
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    Thank you Wizerguy. I have read some of your posts and evidently you have been keeping your eye on lines for sometime now. I took the Colts +1.5 over 49.5 last Tuesday because I was afraid of the line pushing to over -6.5. I like the fact you think the Colts are gonna roll, as I do too.
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