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    phmcgann
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 11:17 PM ET #251

    I'm really perplexed.

    The guy constantly gets shit for posting his honest to god opinion on ECU games because some "expert" thinks he's wrong.

    He doesn't bore you with his write ups. When he writes posts about the news/events leading up to the game, it may not be "groundbreaking/earth shattering", but he writes it in a way to get you excited about his opinion on the game.

    He does a great job at it, and honestly, it's extremely entertaining to see what he has to say. It's not just your average asshole writing 
    "MY BIGGEST PLAY THIS SEASON (insert random record so far here) CFB WEEK xx 2010".

    He does a very good job at what he does. 

    Then you get people to come in and criticize him because he honest to God enjoys writing these writeups because he's an ECU fan at heart, and loves the thrill of gambling just as much as the rest of us.

    He has a VERY respectable, public, and traceable record to prove that he's not full of shit.


    The guy says he's not leaving covers to start a pay service. Until he writes that first message/email/PM/WHATEVER stating differently--seriously, go fuck yourself. Leave the guy alone.

    We're all here to talk, discuss, and debate betting on sports. We're not betting "5-20 dimes" a game. We're the average person who legitimately gets that rush placing a couple hundred or so on a game to make it interesting.

    Which leads me to my point.........why the hell are you badgering this guy?

    Leave him alone. There's a reason he gets 30-40 THOUSAND views a week on his threads........

    and I'll give you a hint--it's because he's not wrong often.


    Reply
    I'm really perplexed.

    The guy constantly gets shit for posting his honest to god opinion on ECU games because some "expert" thinks he's wrong.

    He doesn't bore you with his write ups. When he writes posts about the news/events leading up to the game, it may not be "groundbreaking/earth shattering", but he writes it in a way to get you excited about his opinion on the game.

    He does a great job at it, and honestly, it's extremely entertaining to see what he has to say. It's not just your average asshole writing 
    "MY BIGGEST PLAY THIS SEASON (insert random record so far here) CFB WEEK xx 2010".

    He does a very good job at what he does. 

    Then you get people to come in and criticize him because he honest to God enjoys writing these writeups because he's an ECU fan at heart, and loves the thrill of gambling just as much as the rest of us.

    He has a VERY respectable, public, and traceable record to prove that he's not full of shit.


    The guy says he's not leaving covers to start a pay service. Until he writes that first message/email/PM/WHATEVER stating differently--seriously, go fuck yourself. Leave the guy alone.

    We're all here to talk, discuss, and debate betting on sports. We're not betting "5-20 dimes" a game. We're the average person who legitimately gets that rush placing a couple hundred or so on a game to make it interesting.

    Which leads me to my point.........why the hell are you badgering this guy?

    Leave him alone. There's a reason he gets 30-40 THOUSAND views a week on his threads........

    and I'll give you a hint--it's because he's not wrong often.


     
    stu_padassol
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 11:20 PM ET #252

    Quote Originally Posted by phmcgann:

    I'm really perplexed.

    The guy constantly gets shit for posting his honest to god opinion on ECU games because some "expert" thinks he's wrong.

    He doesn't bore you with his write ups. When he writes posts about the news/events leading up to the game, it may not be "groundbreaking/earth shattering", but he writes it in a way to get you excited about his opinion on the game.

    He does a great job at it, and honestly, it's extremely entertaining to see what he has to say. It's not just your average asshole writing 
    "MY BIGGEST PLAY THIS SEASON (insert random record so far here) CFB WEEK xx 2010".

    He does a very good job at what he does. 

    Then you get people to come in and criticize him because he honest to God enjoys writing these writeups because he's an ECU fan at heart, and loves the thrill of gambling just as much as the rest of us.

    He has a VERY respectable, public, and traceable record to prove that he's not full of shit.


    The guy says he's not leaving covers to start a pay service. Until he writes that first message/email/PM/WHATEVER stating differently--seriously, go fuck yourself. Leave the guy alone.

    We're all here to talk, discuss, and debate betting on sports. We're not betting "5-20 dimes" a game. We're the average person who legitimately gets that rush placing a couple hundred or so on a game to make it interesting.

    Which leads me to my point.........why the hell are you badgering this guy?

    Leave him alone. There's a reason he gets 30-40 THOUSAND views a week on his threads........

    and I'll give you a hint--it's because he's not wrong often.




    wow, could not have said it better myself I'll be sending my friend request
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by phmcgann:

    I'm really perplexed.

    The guy constantly gets shit for posting his honest to god opinion on ECU games because some "expert" thinks he's wrong.

    He doesn't bore you with his write ups. When he writes posts about the news/events leading up to the game, it may not be "groundbreaking/earth shattering", but he writes it in a way to get you excited about his opinion on the game.

    He does a great job at it, and honestly, it's extremely entertaining to see what he has to say. It's not just your average asshole writing 
    "MY BIGGEST PLAY THIS SEASON (insert random record so far here) CFB WEEK xx 2010".

    He does a very good job at what he does. 

    Then you get people to come in and criticize him because he honest to God enjoys writing these writeups because he's an ECU fan at heart, and loves the thrill of gambling just as much as the rest of us.

    He has a VERY respectable, public, and traceable record to prove that he's not full of shit.


    The guy says he's not leaving covers to start a pay service. Until he writes that first message/email/PM/WHATEVER stating differently--seriously, go fuck yourself. Leave the guy alone.

    We're all here to talk, discuss, and debate betting on sports. We're not betting "5-20 dimes" a game. We're the average person who legitimately gets that rush placing a couple hundred or so on a game to make it interesting.

    Which leads me to my point.........why the hell are you badgering this guy?

    Leave him alone. There's a reason he gets 30-40 THOUSAND views a week on his threads........

    and I'll give you a hint--it's because he's not wrong often.




    wow, could not have said it better myself I'll be sending my friend request
     
    silvernut
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 11:25 PM ET #253

    Official LU backer here

    represent

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    Official LU backer here

    represent

     
    Sabanade
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 11:53 PM ET #254

    Quote Originally Posted by phmcgann:

    I'm really perplexed.

    The guy constantly gets shit for posting his honest to god opinion on ECU games because some "expert" thinks he's wrong.

    He doesn't bore you with his write ups. When he writes posts about the news/events leading up to the game, it may not be "groundbreaking/earth shattering", but he writes it in a way to get you excited about his opinion on the game.

    He does a great job at it, and honestly, it's extremely entertaining to see what he has to say. It's not just your average asshole writing 
    "MY BIGGEST PLAY THIS SEASON (insert random record so far here) CFB WEEK xx 2010".

    He does a very good job at what he does. 

    Then you get people to come in and criticize him because he honest to God enjoys writing these writeups because he's an ECU fan at heart, and loves the thrill of gambling just as much as the rest of us.

    He has a VERY respectable, public, and traceable record to prove that he's not full of shit.


    The guy says he's not leaving covers to start a pay service. Until he writes that first message/email/PM/WHATEVER stating differently--seriously, go fuck yourself. Leave the guy alone.

    We're all here to talk, discuss, and debate betting on sports. We're not betting "5-20 dimes" a game. We're the average person who legitimately gets that rush placing a couple hundred or so on a game to make it interesting.

    Which leads me to my point.........why the hell are you badgering this guy?

    Leave him alone. There's a reason he gets 30-40 THOUSAND views a week on his threads........

    and I'll give you a hint--it's because he's not wrong often.


    I agree with you 100%, and I love his picks not only for the cold hard cash in my pocket, but the fact that I enjoy his writeups as well leading up to the game. This week has seemed much different though. If I had to guess, he seems pressured to make a pick (to please his followers) when in essence, he is unsure and probably would rather lay off this week. Hence, all this drama surrounding little to no writeup. I dont think he is or wants to be a tout, I just think he doesnt want to disappoint, but feels pressured to make his followers happy......... just my 2 cents

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by phmcgann:

    I'm really perplexed.

    The guy constantly gets shit for posting his honest to god opinion on ECU games because some "expert" thinks he's wrong.

    He doesn't bore you with his write ups. When he writes posts about the news/events leading up to the game, it may not be "groundbreaking/earth shattering", but he writes it in a way to get you excited about his opinion on the game.

    He does a great job at it, and honestly, it's extremely entertaining to see what he has to say. It's not just your average asshole writing 
    "MY BIGGEST PLAY THIS SEASON (insert random record so far here) CFB WEEK xx 2010".

    He does a very good job at what he does. 

    Then you get people to come in and criticize him because he honest to God enjoys writing these writeups because he's an ECU fan at heart, and loves the thrill of gambling just as much as the rest of us.

    He has a VERY respectable, public, and traceable record to prove that he's not full of shit.


    The guy says he's not leaving covers to start a pay service. Until he writes that first message/email/PM/WHATEVER stating differently--seriously, go fuck yourself. Leave the guy alone.

    We're all here to talk, discuss, and debate betting on sports. We're not betting "5-20 dimes" a game. We're the average person who legitimately gets that rush placing a couple hundred or so on a game to make it interesting.

    Which leads me to my point.........why the hell are you badgering this guy?

    Leave him alone. There's a reason he gets 30-40 THOUSAND views a week on his threads........

    and I'll give you a hint--it's because he's not wrong often.


    I agree with you 100%, and I love his picks not only for the cold hard cash in my pocket, but the fact that I enjoy his writeups as well leading up to the game. This week has seemed much different though. If I had to guess, he seems pressured to make a pick (to please his followers) when in essence, he is unsure and probably would rather lay off this week. Hence, all this drama surrounding little to no writeup. I dont think he is or wants to be a tout, I just think he doesnt want to disappoint, but feels pressured to make his followers happy......... just my 2 cents

     
    oddsbuster
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 12:00 AM ET #255

    Quote Originally Posted by chiro111:





    ?????BUT THE LINE IS GOING UP??????????

    Yes it is and now every square in the world with a ECU +16.5 or +17 ticket is soing WTF did I just do. Lets just say some of those bettor's might now buy back their bet to get off of the game because they are scared of the line movement then Vegas just got a certain % of people to middle themselves into a spot where they could possibly lose both bets. I for one don't let line movement effect my who I like or dislike. If I liked VT @ -14 the chances that I still like them at -19 after it opened at -16.5 is still pretty good. Just have'nt decided myself yet if I want to play it because this number may still do some more dancing around IMO.

     

    Capiche!!!

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by chiro111:





    ?????BUT THE LINE IS GOING UP??????????

    Yes it is and now every square in the world with a ECU +16.5 or +17 ticket is soing WTF did I just do. Lets just say some of those bettor's might now buy back their bet to get off of the game because they are scared of the line movement then Vegas just got a certain % of people to middle themselves into a spot where they could possibly lose both bets. I for one don't let line movement effect my who I like or dislike. If I liked VT @ -14 the chances that I still like them at -19 after it opened at -16.5 is still pretty good. Just have'nt decided myself yet if I want to play it because this number may still do some more dancing around IMO.

     

    Capiche!!!

     
    oddsbuster
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 12:02 AM ET #256

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanade:

    I agree with you 100%, and I love his picks not only for the cold hard cash in my pocket, but the fact that I enjoy his writeups as well leading up to the game. This week has seemed much different though. If I had to guess, he seems pressured to make a pick (to please his followers) when in essence, he is unsure and probably would rather lay off this week. Hence, all this drama surrounding little to no writeup. I dont think he is or wants to be a tout, I just think he doesnt want to disappoint, but feels pressured to make his followers happy......... just my 2 cents

    Is this what they teach in marketing school now a days...
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanade:

    I agree with you 100%, and I love his picks not only for the cold hard cash in my pocket, but the fact that I enjoy his writeups as well leading up to the game. This week has seemed much different though. If I had to guess, he seems pressured to make a pick (to please his followers) when in essence, he is unsure and probably would rather lay off this week. Hence, all this drama surrounding little to no writeup. I dont think he is or wants to be a tout, I just think he doesnt want to disappoint, but feels pressured to make his followers happy......... just my 2 cents

    Is this what they teach in marketing school now a days...
     
    phmcgann
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 12:18 AM ET #257

    Considering the line was never at +16' (except for one vegas Casino for a span of a few hours when it opened), your logic makes no sense.

    oddsbuster, I'm sure you have some idea what you're talking about; I want to believe the 12,718 entries you've made on this forum actually count for something.

    But to be honest--I'm not impressed. You've been following this guy harder than the rest of us "sheep" the past two days trying to prove your "conspiracy theory".

    Neither of your last two posts make any sense. You completely ignore new relevant posts and quote some other guy who--like you--fails to make any real, tangible attempt at what could be considered a rational point.

    If any gambler takes a game and puts themselves in a position to be middled--they deserve it if it does happen. And why are you trying to say "every square in the world" is on ECU? Last week, I'm pretty sure it was close to 90+% that was on ECU to cover--and weird, not surprisingly, they did.

    And "is this what they teach in marketing school no a days..."? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? Stop trying to be witty. Stop trying to be cute. Stop trying to be funny. You're an idiot. You're extremely negative, naive, and narcissistic from the few posts I've read from you thus far.

    When you can honestly offer insight to something/this conversation, come back then--but for the time being, and I think I speak for most people here who appreciate what Lu brought to this forum, please gfy.
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    Considering the line was never at +16' (except for one vegas Casino for a span of a few hours when it opened), your logic makes no sense.

    oddsbuster, I'm sure you have some idea what you're talking about; I want to believe the 12,718 entries you've made on this forum actually count for something.

    But to be honest--I'm not impressed. You've been following this guy harder than the rest of us "sheep" the past two days trying to prove your "conspiracy theory".

    Neither of your last two posts make any sense. You completely ignore new relevant posts and quote some other guy who--like you--fails to make any real, tangible attempt at what could be considered a rational point.

    If any gambler takes a game and puts themselves in a position to be middled--they deserve it if it does happen. And why are you trying to say "every square in the world" is on ECU? Last week, I'm pretty sure it was close to 90+% that was on ECU to cover--and weird, not surprisingly, they did.

    And "is this what they teach in marketing school no a days..."? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? Stop trying to be witty. Stop trying to be cute. Stop trying to be funny. You're an idiot. You're extremely negative, naive, and narcissistic from the few posts I've read from you thus far.

    When you can honestly offer insight to something/this conversation, come back then--but for the time being, and I think I speak for most people here who appreciate what Lu brought to this forum, please gfy.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 12:27 AM ET #258

    Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

    Is this what they teach in marketing school now a days...

    Ha, no they probably teach that you must have something to market..... before actually marketing it. There hasn't been a pick yet by Lu, and I haven't read one by you either. You wanna have a personal prediction contest for some bills? We can PayPal phmcgann to hold the money for the winner, minus 10% for him. Let me know mr. marketing moron....

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

    Is this what they teach in marketing school now a days...

    Ha, no they probably teach that you must have something to market..... before actually marketing it. There hasn't been a pick yet by Lu, and I haven't read one by you either. You wanna have a personal prediction contest for some bills? We can PayPal phmcgann to hold the money for the winner, minus 10% for him. Let me know mr. marketing moron....

     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 1:03 AM ET #259

    Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

    Then post your pick instead of this 3 paragraphs of nonsense in post #211 of a 9 page thread thats was opended alost 1 week before the game starts...


    Odds I used to read your threads last year....thought you were a standup guy...why are u on Lu?

    If you followed him the last year or so u would know that he develops his game plays over the week after seeing practice and coaches schemes, etc.  Who cares why he starts a thread early...maybe its for convenience to find his thread (like I should do cause I'm friggin 8 pages down in an hour because of BS posts). 

    I don't see that a reason to 'hate' on anyone.  The CFB and NFL threads are barely manageable. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

    Then post your pick instead of this 3 paragraphs of nonsense in post #211 of a 9 page thread thats was opended alost 1 week before the game starts...


    Odds I used to read your threads last year....thought you were a standup guy...why are u on Lu?

    If you followed him the last year or so u would know that he develops his game plays over the week after seeing practice and coaches schemes, etc.  Who cares why he starts a thread early...maybe its for convenience to find his thread (like I should do cause I'm friggin 8 pages down in an hour because of BS posts). 

    I don't see that a reason to 'hate' on anyone.  The CFB and NFL threads are barely manageable. 
     
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    being a viewer for 2 years now (member for this year) i have seen most of lu's picks, and they all were early threads building up to the game with all of his insights based on practices and gamefilm and injury reports/insider info

    the fact that he chooses AGAINST his own team and still gets it right should prove otherwise that he is doing it just to garner attention so he can become a tout....

    i mean he chooses 1 game a WEEK!!!!

    ONE GAME!!!!!
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    being a viewer for 2 years now (member for this year) i have seen most of lu's picks, and they all were early threads building up to the game with all of his insights based on practices and gamefilm and injury reports/insider info

    the fact that he chooses AGAINST his own team and still gets it right should prove otherwise that he is doing it just to garner attention so he can become a tout....

    i mean he chooses 1 game a WEEK!!!!

    ONE GAME!!!!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by phmcgann:

    I'm really perplexed.

    The guy constantly gets shit for posting his honest to god opinion on ECU games because some "expert" thinks he's wrong.

    He doesn't bore you with his write ups. When he writes posts about the news/events leading up to the game, it may not be "groundbreaking/earth shattering", but he writes it in a way to get you excited about his opinion on the game.

    He does a great job at it, and honestly, it's extremely entertaining to see what he has to say. It's not just your average asshole writing 
    "MY BIGGEST PLAY THIS SEASON (insert random record so far here) CFB WEEK xx 2010".

    He does a very good job at what he does. 

    Then you get people to come in and criticize him because he honest to God enjoys writing these writeups because he's an ECU fan at heart, and loves the thrill of gambling just as much as the rest of us.

    He has a VERY respectable, public, and traceable record to prove that he's not full of shit.


    The guy says he's not leaving covers to start a pay service. Until he writes that first message/email/PM/WHATEVER stating differently--seriously, go fuck yourself. Leave the guy alone.

    We're all here to talk, discuss, and debate betting on sports. We're not betting "5-20 dimes" a game. We're the average person who legitimately gets that rush placing a couple hundred or so on a game to make it interesting.

    Which leads me to my point.........why the hell are you badgering this guy?

    Leave him alone. There's a reason he gets 30-40 THOUSAND views a week on his threads........

    and I'll give you a hint--it's because he's not wrong often.




    Answer me this Mr. Fake Account created to back up Lu -- why is he not giving his pick out in public anymore and only through e-mail or PM then if his next step is NOT to tout for money?

    This is like Touting 101 that we are seeing here. It doesn't make me sad or anything -- if Lu can make some non-sportsbook earnings off of his picks/analysis, more power to him -- but you have to be a complete fool to not think something is up. Lu's a good, longtime poster and then all of a sudden goes the e-mail/PM route? That sets off red flags for most people, myself included, only because those of us who have been here a while have seen it over and over and over again. It doesn't make it wrong or surprising, just obvious IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phmcgann:

    I'm really perplexed.

    The guy constantly gets shit for posting his honest to god opinion on ECU games because some "expert" thinks he's wrong.

    He doesn't bore you with his write ups. When he writes posts about the news/events leading up to the game, it may not be "groundbreaking/earth shattering", but he writes it in a way to get you excited about his opinion on the game.

    He does a great job at it, and honestly, it's extremely entertaining to see what he has to say. It's not just your average asshole writing 
    "MY BIGGEST PLAY THIS SEASON (insert random record so far here) CFB WEEK xx 2010".

    He does a very good job at what he does. 

    Then you get people to come in and criticize him because he honest to God enjoys writing these writeups because he's an ECU fan at heart, and loves the thrill of gambling just as much as the rest of us.

    He has a VERY respectable, public, and traceable record to prove that he's not full of shit.


    The guy says he's not leaving covers to start a pay service. Until he writes that first message/email/PM/WHATEVER stating differently--seriously, go fuck yourself. Leave the guy alone.

    We're all here to talk, discuss, and debate betting on sports. We're not betting "5-20 dimes" a game. We're the average person who legitimately gets that rush placing a couple hundred or so on a game to make it interesting.

    Which leads me to my point.........why the hell are you badgering this guy?

    Leave him alone. There's a reason he gets 30-40 THOUSAND views a week on his threads........

    and I'll give you a hint--it's because he's not wrong often.




    Answer me this Mr. Fake Account created to back up Lu -- why is he not giving his pick out in public anymore and only through e-mail or PM then if his next step is NOT to tout for money?

    This is like Touting 101 that we are seeing here. It doesn't make me sad or anything -- if Lu can make some non-sportsbook earnings off of his picks/analysis, more power to him -- but you have to be a complete fool to not think something is up. Lu's a good, longtime poster and then all of a sudden goes the e-mail/PM route? That sets off red flags for most people, myself included, only because those of us who have been here a while have seen it over and over and over again. It doesn't make it wrong or surprising, just obvious IMO.

     
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    Oh yeah, and the Covers Investigative Team has this to report:

    "37-6-1

    Alright, guys.  Thanks for coming along for the ride.  It's going to be a fun one, and as promised, here's your pick.  Just deposit 25 dollars into my paypal account and I'll send it....I'M EFFIN' KIDDING.  No, the Lu does not want your money, just your loyalty.  That's it.  Moving on...

    I've been looking this game over for the past few days.  It's been quite a challenge for me personally.  Obviously, with the Hokies coming off the loss to JMU Saturday night was a real monkey wrench in trying to cap this game properly.  But the more I've looked at the tape from the BSU game and the replay of the JMU game on ESPNU the other night, one thing has become very clear to me.  The Hokie defense you see out there isn't the Hokie defense of ole'.  Those defensive players are lost.  They're young, they're confused, they're running in opposite directions, and unfortunately for them, they're about to face an offense that likes to get in space and cause confusion in the secondary.

    The Virginia Tech Hokies we've all come to know and respect are not on the field this year in Blacksburg.  In the past, the Hokie teams who have been successful have been reliant on superior special teams who could flip the field and a defense who could keep the opposing teams offense from marching down the field.  This typically put their mundane offense in a great position to be successful.  They'd run behind a stable of backs and pass enough to mix it up.  But VT was never a team that lit up the scoreboard.  In fact, the Hokies are only averaging 18.3 points per game the last 3 times out against ECU.  That's not a statistic that's an anomaly.  Virginia Tech ranked inside the top 3 in points allowed by the defense for several consecutive years.  The offense didn't have to do much.  

    The Hokie's just got bitten by their own strategy.  There's no longer a defense to bail this offense out and all of the sudden, the offense is being asked to outscore other teams.  That's a fundamental problem with this group.  They're not designed to work that way.  Not only that, the offensive line for the Hokies is just not very good and their offensive coordinator is about to be burned at the stake by the maroon and burnt orange faithful. 

    Now let's not get carried away.  The Pirates are brutal on defense as well.  They've got problems, but fortunately for the Purple and Gold, they have an offense that's up to the task and can bail out the defense when they need to.  When this ECU team needs to score, they do it.  We saw that in week one against Tulsa as the offense continually answered the bell against the Golden Hurricane.  We saw that against Memphis when ECU needed to put in some separation at the second half.  When they play with a sense of urgency, they're dangerous.  The Pirates have put up 100 points in two games.  It took the prior coaching regime over 5 games to get to the 100 total point mark.  The offense for the Pirates is clicking and is gaining more and more confidence. The running backs are superb with Jonathan Williams averaging over 6 yards per clip.   

    Head coach Ruffin McNeil said yesterday that the Pirates had a very sharp Sunday practice and that the team is licking their chops at this opportunity to head into Blacksburg and play in that environment.  They would've been licking their chops even if VT was 2-0, in my opinion.  The coaching staff has been pumping in crowd noise all week to simulate the noise environment they'll get inside of Lane Stadium.  It's been really loud for a little while each night in that neighborhood as they go into silent count/cadence practice.  The kids are fired up and BELIEVE they can win this football game.  That might be the biggest reason for taking ECU.  They're mentally prepared to get after it.  The Hokies on the other hand don't know who they are yet. 

    Reports out of Blacksburg are that coaches are arguing with players, players are arguing with coaches, quarterback Tyrod Taylor has had several heated discussions not only with his center who he can't seem to get on the same page with, but also the offensive coordinator for his play calling.  The fans are about to throw in the towel.  It's just an extremely frail and fragile situation up in the Virginia mountains.  

    Now look,  the game is difficult to cap because of the JMU game...and a little bit because of the BSU game.  I think the Hokie's aren't as bad as the loss to JMU, but they're not nearly as good as their miracle come back against Boise State in D.C. in which they needed 3 turnovers to make it a game late.  There also not 19.5 points better than this version of the Pirates.  They simply don't have the pop to get that far out in front, if they can get out in front at all.  ECU's offensive line is strong and deep and will give Dom Davis (who is leading the country in touchdowns) plenty of time to pick apart the Hokie D...especially with the loss of VT's best defensive lineman Kwamaine Battle. 

    I'm not going to over think it any more.  I've done my due diligence.  I've watched the games.  I've seen the confusion on the VT defensive side of the ball...confusion that was never there with the winningest VT programs of the past.  Their offense isn't as good as ECU's.  I have to trust my instincts and my eyeballs. The new Hokie's are in trouble on Saturday.

    I'm making my call.

    ECU +19.5 for 2 units.  You might also consider the over, but I don't play totals.

    Best of luck, gentlemen.  Let's get the money."


    There ya go. Why can't that be posted in his thread in here? Or maybe even in a new thread in the college football forum? 

    For the man that has all the answers, what is the answer to that?


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    Oh yeah, and the Covers Investigative Team has this to report:

    "37-6-1

    Alright, guys.  Thanks for coming along for the ride.  It's going to be a fun one, and as promised, here's your pick.  Just deposit 25 dollars into my paypal account and I'll send it....I'M EFFIN' KIDDING.  No, the Lu does not want your money, just your loyalty.  That's it.  Moving on...

    I've been looking this game over for the past few days.  It's been quite a challenge for me personally.  Obviously, with the Hokies coming off the loss to JMU Saturday night was a real monkey wrench in trying to cap this game properly.  But the more I've looked at the tape from the BSU game and the replay of the JMU game on ESPNU the other night, one thing has become very clear to me.  The Hokie defense you see out there isn't the Hokie defense of ole'.  Those defensive players are lost.  They're young, they're confused, they're running in opposite directions, and unfortunately for them, they're about to face an offense that likes to get in space and cause confusion in the secondary.

    The Virginia Tech Hokies we've all come to know and respect are not on the field this year in Blacksburg.  In the past, the Hokie teams who have been successful have been reliant on superior special teams who could flip the field and a defense who could keep the opposing teams offense from marching down the field.  This typically put their mundane offense in a great position to be successful.  They'd run behind a stable of backs and pass enough to mix it up.  But VT was never a team that lit up the scoreboard.  In fact, the Hokies are only averaging 18.3 points per game the last 3 times out against ECU.  That's not a statistic that's an anomaly.  Virginia Tech ranked inside the top 3 in points allowed by the defense for several consecutive years.  The offense didn't have to do much.  

    The Hokie's just got bitten by their own strategy.  There's no longer a defense to bail this offense out and all of the sudden, the offense is being asked to outscore other teams.  That's a fundamental problem with this group.  They're not designed to work that way.  Not only that, the offensive line for the Hokies is just not very good and their offensive coordinator is about to be burned at the stake by the maroon and burnt orange faithful. 

    Now let's not get carried away.  The Pirates are brutal on defense as well.  They've got problems, but fortunately for the Purple and Gold, they have an offense that's up to the task and can bail out the defense when they need to.  When this ECU team needs to score, they do it.  We saw that in week one against Tulsa as the offense continually answered the bell against the Golden Hurricane.  We saw that against Memphis when ECU needed to put in some separation at the second half.  When they play with a sense of urgency, they're dangerous.  The Pirates have put up 100 points in two games.  It took the prior coaching regime over 5 games to get to the 100 total point mark.  The offense for the Pirates is clicking and is gaining more and more confidence. The running backs are superb with Jonathan Williams averaging over 6 yards per clip.   

    Head coach Ruffin McNeil said yesterday that the Pirates had a very sharp Sunday practice and that the team is licking their chops at this opportunity to head into Blacksburg and play in that environment.  They would've been licking their chops even if VT was 2-0, in my opinion.  The coaching staff has been pumping in crowd noise all week to simulate the noise environment they'll get inside of Lane Stadium.  It's been really loud for a little while each night in that neighborhood as they go into silent count/cadence practice.  The kids are fired up and BELIEVE they can win this football game.  That might be the biggest reason for taking ECU.  They're mentally prepared to get after it.  The Hokies on the other hand don't know who they are yet. 

    Reports out of Blacksburg are that coaches are arguing with players, players are arguing with coaches, quarterback Tyrod Taylor has had several heated discussions not only with his center who he can't seem to get on the same page with, but also the offensive coordinator for his play calling.  The fans are about to throw in the towel.  It's just an extremely frail and fragile situation up in the Virginia mountains.  

    Now look,  the game is difficult to cap because of the JMU game...and a little bit because of the BSU game.  I think the Hokie's aren't as bad as the loss to JMU, but they're not nearly as good as their miracle come back against Boise State in D.C. in which they needed 3 turnovers to make it a game late.  There also not 19.5 points better than this version of the Pirates.  They simply don't have the pop to get that far out in front, if they can get out in front at all.  ECU's offensive line is strong and deep and will give Dom Davis (who is leading the country in touchdowns) plenty of time to pick apart the Hokie D...especially with the loss of VT's best defensive lineman Kwamaine Battle. 

    I'm not going to over think it any more.  I've done my due diligence.  I've watched the games.  I've seen the confusion on the VT defensive side of the ball...confusion that was never there with the winningest VT programs of the past.  Their offense isn't as good as ECU's.  I have to trust my instincts and my eyeballs. The new Hokie's are in trouble on Saturday.

    I'm making my call.

    ECU +19.5 for 2 units.  You might also consider the over, but I don't play totals.

    Best of luck, gentlemen.  Let's get the money."


    There ya go. Why can't that be posted in his thread in here? Or maybe even in a new thread in the college football forum? 

    For the man that has all the answers, what is the answer to that?


     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 10:23 AM ET #264

    solid play LOU not sure about the OVR tho. BEST OF LUCK TO LOU, ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING MEN ON THIS WEBSITE. LOU YOU THE MAN, AND YOUR RECORD PROVES IT!!
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    solid play LOU not sure about the OVR tho. BEST OF LUCK TO LOU, ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING MEN ON THIS WEBSITE. LOU YOU THE MAN, AND YOUR RECORD PROVES IT!!
     
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    For what it's worth, I think Lu (again) has the right side here... 19.5 points is a ton, a ton of points, and even though ECU's defense isn't all that great, it probably is not a hell of a lot worse than James Madison's defense, and VaTech could only put up 16 points against them. He's dead right that the VT offense isn't suited to win shootouts, and with the defense playing as poorly as it has been, 19.5 points is a freaking gift, especially with a talented ECU offense led by a QB who has already traveled into Blacksburg previously in his career.
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    For what it's worth, I think Lu (again) has the right side here... 19.5 points is a ton, a ton of points, and even though ECU's defense isn't all that great, it probably is not a hell of a lot worse than James Madison's defense, and VaTech could only put up 16 points against them. He's dead right that the VT offense isn't suited to win shootouts, and with the defense playing as poorly as it has been, 19.5 points is a freaking gift, especially with a talented ECU offense led by a QB who has already traveled into Blacksburg previously in his career.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    There ya go. Why can't that be posted in his thread in here? Or maybe even in a new thread in the college football forum? 

    For the man that has all the answers, what is the answer to that?



    For the record, I don't mind you posting this here.  No investigation required.  In fact, I thought about posting it today anyway.

    The reason I asked people to PM me is because I'm working on a project and I want those who have followed my plays and supported me to be involved FIRST because they appreciate what I do and the way I do it.  So now, I have their trust and they have my respect.  Although I do question your loyalty.  Why are you acting this way?  Have I ever lied to anyone?  Why is your first lean towards me selling services when I've been nothing but up-front and respectful since the day I arrived here at Covers?  Do I not get the benefit of the doubt at this point?  I've been here for 3 years, guys.  Cut me some slack already.

     Lu
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    There ya go. Why can't that be posted in his thread in here? Or maybe even in a new thread in the college football forum? 

    For the man that has all the answers, what is the answer to that?



    For the record, I don't mind you posting this here.  No investigation required.  In fact, I thought about posting it today anyway.

    The reason I asked people to PM me is because I'm working on a project and I want those who have followed my plays and supported me to be involved FIRST because they appreciate what I do and the way I do it.  So now, I have their trust and they have my respect.  Although I do question your loyalty.  Why are you acting this way?  Have I ever lied to anyone?  Why is your first lean towards me selling services when I've been nothing but up-front and respectful since the day I arrived here at Covers?  Do I not get the benefit of the doubt at this point?  I've been here for 3 years, guys.  Cut me some slack already.

     Lu
     
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    "The reason I asked people to PM me is because I'm working on a project and I want those who have followed my plays and supported me to be involved FIRST because they appreciate what I do and the way I do it.  So now, I have their trust and they have my respect.  Although I do question your loyalty.  Why are you acting this way?  Have I ever lied to anyone?  Why is your first lean towards me selling services when I've been nothing but up-front and respectful since the day I arrived here at Covers?  Do I not get the benefit of the doubt at this point?  I've been here for 3 years, guys.  Cut me some slack already."

    Like I said above Lu, I respect your posts and think you are a fantastic capper, your record demonstrates that. You have my respect, that's without doubt. And even if you ultimately did go tout, I wouldn't really begrudge anyone (especially you) for that -- if you can make some scratch (not from someone making book) for all your hard work, shit, more power to you man.

    You'll just have to excuse some of us around here who have seen this show before -- guy kicks ass, then goes the PM/e-mail route, and touting is next. We've seen it 100 times if we've seen it once. That being said, I think the fact you don't have any cuffs on and haven't been banned speaks volumes in the eyes of the Covers moderators.

    You've never lied to me about anything -- in fact, you've been straight up always with everyone from what I can see. My first lean was toward you selling services because, as said above, that's the normal route of what happens after someone requests PM/e-mails.

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, Lu -- you're a good guy, I harbor no ill will towards you and wish you the best.

    Want to give us some more info on this project you are working on? Any hints even?


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    "The reason I asked people to PM me is because I'm working on a project and I want those who have followed my plays and supported me to be involved FIRST because they appreciate what I do and the way I do it.  So now, I have their trust and they have my respect.  Although I do question your loyalty.  Why are you acting this way?  Have I ever lied to anyone?  Why is your first lean towards me selling services when I've been nothing but up-front and respectful since the day I arrived here at Covers?  Do I not get the benefit of the doubt at this point?  I've been here for 3 years, guys.  Cut me some slack already."

    Like I said above Lu, I respect your posts and think you are a fantastic capper, your record demonstrates that. You have my respect, that's without doubt. And even if you ultimately did go tout, I wouldn't really begrudge anyone (especially you) for that -- if you can make some scratch (not from someone making book) for all your hard work, shit, more power to you man.

    You'll just have to excuse some of us around here who have seen this show before -- guy kicks ass, then goes the PM/e-mail route, and touting is next. We've seen it 100 times if we've seen it once. That being said, I think the fact you don't have any cuffs on and haven't been banned speaks volumes in the eyes of the Covers moderators.

    You've never lied to me about anything -- in fact, you've been straight up always with everyone from what I can see. My first lean was toward you selling services because, as said above, that's the normal route of what happens after someone requests PM/e-mails.

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, Lu -- you're a good guy, I harbor no ill will towards you and wish you the best.

    Want to give us some more info on this project you are working on? Any hints even?


     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 11:26 AM ET #268

    Define "a project" for us.

    Sounds like you are trying to divert people away from Covers, which we consider not acceptable conduct.


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    Define "a project" for us.

    Sounds like you are trying to divert people away from Covers, which we consider not acceptable conduct.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 3:28 PM ET #269

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Define "a project" for us.

    Sounds like you are trying to divert people away from Covers, which we consider not acceptable conduct.



    seems to me like covers is a dictatorship...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Define "a project" for us.

    Sounds like you are trying to divert people away from Covers, which we consider not acceptable conduct.



    seems to me like covers is a dictatorship...........
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 5:39 PM ET #270

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    Answer me this Mr. Fake Account created to back up Lu -- why is he not giving his pick out in public anymore and only through e-mail or PM then if his next step is NOT to tout for money?

    This is like Touting 101 that we are seeing here. It doesn't make me sad or anything -- if Lu can make some non-sportsbook earnings off of his picks/analysis, more power to him -- but you have to be a complete fool to not think something is up. Lu's a good, longtime poster and then all of a sudden goes the e-mail/PM route? That sets off red flags for most people, myself included, only because those of us who have been here a while have seen it over and over and over again. It doesn't make it wrong or surprising, just obvious IMO.


    Just FYI, I'm not a random Mr. Fake Account created to back LuDawg. I'm a real person who has lurked on covers since early 2010 and after reading everything and making my own decision from it, decided to create an account and post on here in his defense.

    I'm glad he decided to come back and publicly post his picks though. As I stated before, until he charges people for picks, you can't say anything to him (and even if he did--it's his right I guess); that's why I decided to create an account just now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    Answer me this Mr. Fake Account created to back up Lu -- why is he not giving his pick out in public anymore and only through e-mail or PM then if his next step is NOT to tout for money?

    This is like Touting 101 that we are seeing here. It doesn't make me sad or anything -- if Lu can make some non-sportsbook earnings off of his picks/analysis, more power to him -- but you have to be a complete fool to not think something is up. Lu's a good, longtime poster and then all of a sudden goes the e-mail/PM route? That sets off red flags for most people, myself included, only because those of us who have been here a while have seen it over and over and over again. It doesn't make it wrong or surprising, just obvious IMO.


    Just FYI, I'm not a random Mr. Fake Account created to back LuDawg. I'm a real person who has lurked on covers since early 2010 and after reading everything and making my own decision from it, decided to create an account and post on here in his defense.

    I'm glad he decided to come back and publicly post his picks though. As I stated before, until he charges people for picks, you can't say anything to him (and even if he did--it's his right I guess); that's why I decided to create an account just now.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 5:43 PM ET #271

    Quote Originally Posted by GreekBoi:


    seems to me like covers is a dictatorship...........


    That would be correct..Covers is a privately owned company, so yep it is a dictatorship if you want to look at it that way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreekBoi:


    seems to me like covers is a dictatorship...........


    That would be correct..Covers is a privately owned company, so yep it is a dictatorship if you want to look at it that way.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 7:05 PM ET #272

    Quote Originally Posted by starwink:

    Lu ,

    I don't need a deceitful piece of shit like you as a friend, but i'd like to tell you to go fuck yourself, if possible. Your PM ploy has already been detailed in the Touting 101 handbook.

    Thanks!
    But of course  A gambling forum needs ass clowns like yourself  to make it whole.. Not guys like Lu who for over two years has given detailed writeups on EC sports and hit at an alarming rate.. Just the info alone is nice.. Good job Columbo sniffing out that possible Tout after two years of writeups.. If it happens ..big deal.. He put in his time and work and people can make their own decisions .. At this point who really cares .. Oh yea the ass clown does.. Somewhere a village is missing its idiot..
    Be careful with the axe Eugene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starwink:

    Lu ,

    I don't need a deceitful piece of shit like you as a friend, but i'd like to tell you to go fuck yourself, if possible. Your PM ploy has already been detailed in the Touting 101 handbook.

    Thanks!
    But of course  A gambling forum needs ass clowns like yourself  to make it whole.. Not guys like Lu who for over two years has given detailed writeups on EC sports and hit at an alarming rate.. Just the info alone is nice.. Good job Columbo sniffing out that possible Tout after two years of writeups.. If it happens ..big deal.. He put in his time and work and people can make their own decisions .. At this point who really cares .. Oh yea the ass clown does.. Somewhere a village is missing its idiot..
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 7:11 PM ET #273

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

    But of course  A gambling forum needs ass clowns like yourself  to make it whole.. Not guys like Lu who for over two years has given detailed writeups on EC sports and hit at an alarming rate.. Just the info alone is nice.. Good job Columbo sniffing out that possible Tout after two years of writeups.. If it happens ..big deal.. He put in his time and work and people can make their own decisions .. At this point who really cares .. Oh yea the ass clown does.. Somewhere a village is missing its idiot..


    Ouch


    Fuck you too, assmuncher. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

    But of course  A gambling forum needs ass clowns like yourself  to make it whole.. Not guys like Lu who for over two years has given detailed writeups on EC sports and hit at an alarming rate.. Just the info alone is nice.. Good job Columbo sniffing out that possible Tout after two years of writeups.. If it happens ..big deal.. He put in his time and work and people can make their own decisions .. At this point who really cares .. Oh yea the ass clown does.. Somewhere a village is missing its idiot..


    Ouch


    Fuck you too, assmuncher. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 7:13 PM ET #274

    Why do I have more stars than your hero, Lu?


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    Why do I have more stars than your hero, Lu?


     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2010 - 7:27 PM ET #275

    I was confusing LuDawg with Bryce Bell.  These wannabe-touts have me confused. 

    Bryce Bell actually participates in verifiable contests.  LuDawg doesn't. 

    Why wouldn't LuDawg want a verifiable record? 
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    I was confusing LuDawg with Bryce Bell.  These wannabe-touts have me confused. 

    Bryce Bell actually participates in verifiable contests.  LuDawg doesn't. 

    Why wouldn't LuDawg want a verifiable record? 
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