Hurts worked with an amazing pocket for most of the game.
https://x.com/CoachDanCasey/status/1878559983018647752
I can only dream of Justin Herbert operating from a pocket like that. His pocket usually starts crumbling in less than 2.5 seconds
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Hurts worked with an amazing pocket for most of the game.
https://x.com/CoachDanCasey/status/1878559983018647752
I can only dream of Justin Herbert operating from a pocket like that. His pocket usually starts crumbling in less than 2.5 seconds
https://x.com/NextGenStats/status/1878561678020763913
"Jalen Hurts dropped back for 6.75 seconds on his 11-yard TD pass to Jahan Dotson, the longest time to throw on a TD pass from a clean pocket this season. No Packers pass rusher got within 2.5 yards of Hurts at any point in the dropback."
Good lord. I've always been one to build from the trenches on out. I hope Harbaugh & Hortiz continue to follow the blueprint they started with the Alt pick.
https://x.com/NextGenStats/status/1878561678020763913
"Jalen Hurts dropped back for 6.75 seconds on his 11-yard TD pass to Jahan Dotson, the longest time to throw on a TD pass from a clean pocket this season. No Packers pass rusher got within 2.5 yards of Hurts at any point in the dropback."
Good lord. I've always been one to build from the trenches on out. I hope Harbaugh & Hortiz continue to follow the blueprint they started with the Alt pick.
@iConsciousness
You can't count on the o line to always block like that. Although the Eagles o line is pretty good.
Hurts holds on the ball too long, kind of like Caleb Williams.
Just watching Daniels and Mayfield right now, they fire it quick when they have to. All good qb's have this trait. Brady was the master.
I feel like Greg Romans offense has a lot of slow developing routes, especially all the play action he runs. Lamar had to wait a lot when he was in Baltimore.
Maybe it's the system. Do you think it was that or just Herbert had a bad game?
BTW, Jalen Hurts didn't impress much, even with a bunch of time to throw. Imo
@iConsciousness
You can't count on the o line to always block like that. Although the Eagles o line is pretty good.
Hurts holds on the ball too long, kind of like Caleb Williams.
Just watching Daniels and Mayfield right now, they fire it quick when they have to. All good qb's have this trait. Brady was the master.
I feel like Greg Romans offense has a lot of slow developing routes, especially all the play action he runs. Lamar had to wait a lot when he was in Baltimore.
Maybe it's the system. Do you think it was that or just Herbert had a bad game?
BTW, Jalen Hurts didn't impress much, even with a bunch of time to throw. Imo
When was the last time a rookie won a playoff game? Congratulations to Jayden Daniels.
Both him and Caleb Williams won the heisman, but Caleb was the "clear cut" #1, thanks Mel Kiper...
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Also Bo Nix had a year, made it to the playoffs. His scouting report sucked.
Maybe scouts suck?
When was the last time a rookie won a playoff game? Congratulations to Jayden Daniels.
Both him and Caleb Williams won the heisman, but Caleb was the "clear cut" #1, thanks Mel Kiper...
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Also Bo Nix had a year, made it to the playoffs. His scouting report sucked.
Maybe scouts suck?
Mel is a Baltimore brother...
I watched a documentary on Mel Kiper a few years ago. He had zero affiliation or experience in the nfl and college football back in the day. He grew his own brand on his own from the ground up. So kudos to him for becoming successful.
I just don't understand how at some point people started to trust his rankings and opinions. The guy has missed on so many players throughout the years, not just at the top of the draft.
Mel is a Baltimore brother...
I watched a documentary on Mel Kiper a few years ago. He had zero affiliation or experience in the nfl and college football back in the day. He grew his own brand on his own from the ground up. So kudos to him for becoming successful.
I just don't understand how at some point people started to trust his rankings and opinions. The guy has missed on so many players throughout the years, not just at the top of the draft.
The winner of the Vikings and Rams game goes to Philly for the divisional round. Avoiding the Lions for 1 more week.
If we were conspiracy theorists, we would bet on the Rams tonight, and again in Philly right? The league would surely want a Stafford vs Goff nfc championship...
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The winner of the Vikings and Rams game goes to Philly for the divisional round. Avoiding the Lions for 1 more week.
If we were conspiracy theorists, we would bet on the Rams tonight, and again in Philly right? The league would surely want a Stafford vs Goff nfc championship...
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The winner of the Vikings and Rams game goes to Philly for the divisional round. Avoiding the Lions for 1 more week. If we were conspiracy theorists, we would bet on the Rams tonight, and again in Philly right? The league would surely want a Stafford vs Goff nfc championship...
The winner of the Vikings and Rams game goes to Philly for the divisional round. Avoiding the Lions for 1 more week. If we were conspiracy theorists, we would bet on the Rams tonight, and again in Philly right? The league would surely want a Stafford vs Goff nfc championship...
The Eagles luck is tremendous this game. The Packers fumble the opening kickoff. Replay shows that the Packers recovered but doesn't get over turned. Packers miss an easy FG. Packers players are dropping like flies to injury. Packers have 3 turnovers
The Eagles luck is tremendous this game. The Packers fumble the opening kickoff. Replay shows that the Packers recovered but doesn't get over turned. Packers miss an easy FG. Packers players are dropping like flies to injury. Packers have 3 turnovers
3-3 +0.98 last week 78-83-9 (+0.59) YTD Ravens -8.5(-110) *1.10/1.00 Eagles -3.5(-110) *1.00/.91 Broncos 1H +6(-115) *1.00/.87 Vikings 1H ML(-130) *1.00/.77 Packers 1H +3(-115) *.50/.44 Broncos 1H +5(-102) *.25/.24 GB@PHI 1H U23(-115) *.50/.44
5-1 heading into MNF me-->
<---bookie
Sorry Biscuit, I'm on the Vikings. 1H though.
3-3 +0.98 last week 78-83-9 (+0.59) YTD Ravens -8.5(-110) *1.10/1.00 Eagles -3.5(-110) *1.00/.91 Broncos 1H +6(-115) *1.00/.87 Vikings 1H ML(-130) *1.00/.77 Packers 1H +3(-115) *.50/.44 Broncos 1H +5(-102) *.25/.24 GB@PHI 1H U23(-115) *.50/.44
5-1 heading into MNF me-->
<---bookie
Sorry Biscuit, I'm on the Vikings. 1H though.
Divisional rd bets... Ravens 1H +.5(-120) *1.20/1.00 Ravens 1H ML(-102) *1.00/.98 Ravens 1H -.5(+110) *.50/.55 Good Luck
Get on these fellas. Since the Ravens bye week, last 5 games for both teams 1H #'s.
Ravens 5-0 outscoring opponents 90-22.
Bills 3-2 outscoring opponents 60-49.
1H power ratings:
Ravens #2 (6.9), Bills #11 (2.1), that's for the entire season.
Ravens SOS #3, Bills SOS #10
Lamar > Allen, this year at least.
I don't care if this game is at Orchard Park.
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Divisional rd bets... Ravens 1H +.5(-120) *1.20/1.00 Ravens 1H ML(-102) *1.00/.98 Ravens 1H -.5(+110) *.50/.55 Good Luck
Get on these fellas. Since the Ravens bye week, last 5 games for both teams 1H #'s.
Ravens 5-0 outscoring opponents 90-22.
Bills 3-2 outscoring opponents 60-49.
1H power ratings:
Ravens #2 (6.9), Bills #11 (2.1), that's for the entire season.
Ravens SOS #3, Bills SOS #10
Lamar > Allen, this year at least.
I don't care if this game is at Orchard Park.
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Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Mel is a Baltimore brother... I watched a documentary on Mel Kiper a few years ago. He had zero affiliation or experience in the nfl and college football back in the day. He grew his own brand on his own from the ground up. So kudos to him for becoming successful. I just don't understand how at some point people started to trust his rankings and opinions. The guy has missed on so many players throughout the years, not just at the top of the draft.
I tried to do what he did.....![]()
Sadly I went on to sell flooring since 1982....![]()
Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Mel is a Baltimore brother... I watched a documentary on Mel Kiper a few years ago. He had zero affiliation or experience in the nfl and college football back in the day. He grew his own brand on his own from the ground up. So kudos to him for becoming successful. I just don't understand how at some point people started to trust his rankings and opinions. The guy has missed on so many players throughout the years, not just at the top of the draft.
I tried to do what he did.....![]()
Sadly I went on to sell flooring since 1982....![]()
Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Mel is a Baltimore brother... I watched a documentary on Mel Kiper a few years ago. He had zero affiliation or experience in the nfl and college football back in the day. He grew his own brand on his own from the ground up. So kudos to him for becoming successful. I just don't understand how at some point people started to trust his rankings and opinions. The guy has missed on so many players throughout the years, not just at the top of the draft. I tried to do what he did..... Sadly I went on to sell flooring since 1982....
You started selling flooring when I was 1 years old
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Mel is a Baltimore brother... I watched a documentary on Mel Kiper a few years ago. He had zero affiliation or experience in the nfl and college football back in the day. He grew his own brand on his own from the ground up. So kudos to him for becoming successful. I just don't understand how at some point people started to trust his rankings and opinions. The guy has missed on so many players throughout the years, not just at the top of the draft. I tried to do what he did..... Sadly I went on to sell flooring since 1982....
You started selling flooring when I was 1 years old
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This is like a story that deserves several books that are separated into multiple volumes that ultimately need to get themselves affiliated with a motion picture studio that will develop a franchise out of it where children from the future will play with the action figures .
i can see it now :
” Charlie it’s late and it’s time to go to bed . Now put your bigred toy with the kung fu grip away . And all the flooring and carpet accessories that he comes packaged with too because your father nearly broke his neck tripping over those linoleum pieces last time . “
This is like a story that deserves several books that are separated into multiple volumes that ultimately need to get themselves affiliated with a motion picture studio that will develop a franchise out of it where children from the future will play with the action figures .
i can see it now :
” Charlie it’s late and it’s time to go to bed . Now put your bigred toy with the kung fu grip away . And all the flooring and carpet accessories that he comes packaged with too because your father nearly broke his neck tripping over those linoleum pieces last time . “
Mike Tomlin’s eyes are yellower than the snow Cranky Hank pissed on when he went outside in his boxers in the middle of a snowstorm cuz he remembered that he left a Door Dash from Chipotle untouched on the porch just sitting there from an order that he made 3 days ago because being drunk all the time makes you forget things . Ravens 27-13
toot fuckin’ toot dogg . Cuz I’m horny . Ya feel me ?
Mike Tomlin’s eyes are yellower than the snow Cranky Hank pissed on when he went outside in his boxers in the middle of a snowstorm cuz he remembered that he left a Door Dash from Chipotle untouched on the porch just sitting there from an order that he made 3 days ago because being drunk all the time makes you forget things . Ravens 27-13
toot fuckin’ toot dogg . Cuz I’m horny . Ya feel me ?
There is a flip side to the Rams and LA fires disaster and the possibility exists that it brings them together with a chance to do what most of them love and an opt. to leave the misery for 3 hours, once the game starts I think they will be 100% focused on the task at hand. jmo prop players should cash on Pukka Nukka ![]()
There is a flip side to the Rams and LA fires disaster and the possibility exists that it brings them together with a chance to do what most of them love and an opt. to leave the misery for 3 hours, once the game starts I think they will be 100% focused on the task at hand. jmo prop players should cash on Pukka Nukka ![]()
@iConsciousness You can't count on the o line to always block like that. Although the Eagles o line is pretty good. Hurts holds on the ball too long, kind of like Caleb Williams. Just watching Daniels and Mayfield right now, they fire it quick when they have to. All good qb's have this trait. Brady was the master. I feel like Greg Romans offense has a lot of slow developing routes, especially all the play action he runs. Lamar had to wait a lot when he was in Baltimore. Maybe it's the system. Do you think it was that or just Herbert had a bad game? BTW, Jalen Hurts didn't impress much, even with a bunch of time to throw. Imo
Herbert had a bad game, but 2 of his interceptions came off the tips of his receivers hands (Dissly and McConkey), one was a desperation through at the end of the game when it was already out of hand. One was truly bad.
But this is what Herbert's been dealing with all season:
https://x.com/ChargersCommish/status/1878622698437497330
I'm not asking him to always have the time that Hurts benefits from, but get a better IOL that communicates better. Maybe we need a new Oline coach who hasn't bounced around the league. This was why I was hoping Justin would scramble out of the pocket more. For his size at the position, he's an above average+ runner.
The slow developing routes are because aside from McConkey, our receivers have trouble separating. Our #1 draft pick (Quentin Johnston) is approaching bust territory (although he took a leap this year and had some big games; but also had horrible drops when we desperately needed completions). I'm just hoping Joe Hortiz (GM) addresses the following positions in this order:
Center
WR #1 (or 1a)
TE
LG, RG,
DE
We're good at QB, OT, CB, SS. But Jesse Minter's defense was able to elevate the play of other team's castoffs (Poona Ford, Teair Tart, Elijah Molden, Kristan Fulton), so let's focus on Offense first.
@iConsciousness You can't count on the o line to always block like that. Although the Eagles o line is pretty good. Hurts holds on the ball too long, kind of like Caleb Williams. Just watching Daniels and Mayfield right now, they fire it quick when they have to. All good qb's have this trait. Brady was the master. I feel like Greg Romans offense has a lot of slow developing routes, especially all the play action he runs. Lamar had to wait a lot when he was in Baltimore. Maybe it's the system. Do you think it was that or just Herbert had a bad game? BTW, Jalen Hurts didn't impress much, even with a bunch of time to throw. Imo
Herbert had a bad game, but 2 of his interceptions came off the tips of his receivers hands (Dissly and McConkey), one was a desperation through at the end of the game when it was already out of hand. One was truly bad.
But this is what Herbert's been dealing with all season:
https://x.com/ChargersCommish/status/1878622698437497330
I'm not asking him to always have the time that Hurts benefits from, but get a better IOL that communicates better. Maybe we need a new Oline coach who hasn't bounced around the league. This was why I was hoping Justin would scramble out of the pocket more. For his size at the position, he's an above average+ runner.
The slow developing routes are because aside from McConkey, our receivers have trouble separating. Our #1 draft pick (Quentin Johnston) is approaching bust territory (although he took a leap this year and had some big games; but also had horrible drops when we desperately needed completions). I'm just hoping Joe Hortiz (GM) addresses the following positions in this order:
Center
WR #1 (or 1a)
TE
LG, RG,
DE
We're good at QB, OT, CB, SS. But Jesse Minter's defense was able to elevate the play of other team's castoffs (Poona Ford, Teair Tart, Elijah Molden, Kristan Fulton), so let's focus on Offense first.
There is a flip side to the Rams and LA fires disaster and the possibility exists that it brings them together with a chance to do what most of them love and an opt. to leave the misery for 3 hours, once the game starts I think they will be 100% focused on the task at hand. jmo prop players should cash on Pukka Nukka
That's wishful thinking, and it may be the case.
But I lean more towards disrupted practice schedule, sudden travel, and whatever hardships at home due to the fires out weighing the good.
There is a flip side to the Rams and LA fires disaster and the possibility exists that it brings them together with a chance to do what most of them love and an opt. to leave the misery for 3 hours, once the game starts I think they will be 100% focused on the task at hand. jmo prop players should cash on Pukka Nukka
That's wishful thinking, and it may be the case.
But I lean more towards disrupted practice schedule, sudden travel, and whatever hardships at home due to the fires out weighing the good.
McMconkey does not get the props he deserves.
On my Twitter account I was hyping up him and Pearsall before the draft. After the 1st round, I mentioned how I hoped the Chargers would draft McConkey, sharing some of his highlights posted from college scouts. In recent memory, I don't think the Chargers had ever drafted someone I pushed so hard for before. I was PUMPED when the Chargers traded up to draft him. I had hope that maybe he'd fall to them, but seeing how all the other receivers got drafted (Pearsall was drafted before his ADP, if I recall correctly), I thought McConkey would be the perfect re-set receiver for a team who lost both Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. I don't know if I want him to be the team's #1 WR though.
To me, McConkey is the lab experiment that combines the best traits of Keenan Allen and Wes Welker/Julian Edelman/Brandon Stokely/insert_white_slot_receiver here. Only he's much faster than all of 'em.
McMconkey does not get the props he deserves.
On my Twitter account I was hyping up him and Pearsall before the draft. After the 1st round, I mentioned how I hoped the Chargers would draft McConkey, sharing some of his highlights posted from college scouts. In recent memory, I don't think the Chargers had ever drafted someone I pushed so hard for before. I was PUMPED when the Chargers traded up to draft him. I had hope that maybe he'd fall to them, but seeing how all the other receivers got drafted (Pearsall was drafted before his ADP, if I recall correctly), I thought McConkey would be the perfect re-set receiver for a team who lost both Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. I don't know if I want him to be the team's #1 WR though.
To me, McConkey is the lab experiment that combines the best traits of Keenan Allen and Wes Welker/Julian Edelman/Brandon Stokely/insert_white_slot_receiver here. Only he's much faster than all of 'em.
Chuck Muncie also doesn’t get the props he deserves . Probably cuz of the cocaine . But he turned his life around . All time Charger in my opinion .
Chuck Muncie also doesn’t get the props he deserves . Probably cuz of the cocaine . But he turned his life around . All time Charger in my opinion .
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: There is a flip side to the Rams and LA fires disaster and the possibility exists that it brings them together with a chance to do what most of them love and an opt. to leave the misery for 3 hours, once the game starts I think they will be 100% focused on the task at hand. jmo prop players should cash on Pukka Nukka That's wishful thinking, and it may be the case. But I lean more towards disrupted practice schedule, sudden travel, and whatever hardships at home due to the fires out weighing the good.
As an Angeleno who's LA's "other football" team sometimes gets disrespected, I hate the Rams. But I can set aside my hate for them when it comes to my wallet.
I think there's an equal parts mental struggle with what's going on with the player's and coaching staff's homes back in L.A. and the mentality of "we got to do it for L.A."
The NFL would probably like that "Do it for L.A." storyline too.
In my opinion, if Darnold can get past "seeing ghosts," the Vikings should win this game and cover the -2.5. Darnold needs to play loose. The team with the better defense needs to rattle Stafford, because he's got that playoff experience to play with confidence. Both teams don't have an impressive pass defense, so I expect plenty of passing. Looking at both team's defensive stats, I don't see Kyren Williams doing much damage on the ground, unless it's just goal line stuff.
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: There is a flip side to the Rams and LA fires disaster and the possibility exists that it brings them together with a chance to do what most of them love and an opt. to leave the misery for 3 hours, once the game starts I think they will be 100% focused on the task at hand. jmo prop players should cash on Pukka Nukka That's wishful thinking, and it may be the case. But I lean more towards disrupted practice schedule, sudden travel, and whatever hardships at home due to the fires out weighing the good.
As an Angeleno who's LA's "other football" team sometimes gets disrespected, I hate the Rams. But I can set aside my hate for them when it comes to my wallet.
I think there's an equal parts mental struggle with what's going on with the player's and coaching staff's homes back in L.A. and the mentality of "we got to do it for L.A."
The NFL would probably like that "Do it for L.A." storyline too.
In my opinion, if Darnold can get past "seeing ghosts," the Vikings should win this game and cover the -2.5. Darnold needs to play loose. The team with the better defense needs to rattle Stafford, because he's got that playoff experience to play with confidence. Both teams don't have an impressive pass defense, so I expect plenty of passing. Looking at both team's defensive stats, I don't see Kyren Williams doing much damage on the ground, unless it's just goal line stuff.
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