bye week szn with 4 teams off.....also awaiting the Giants game to get that line. GL gents
- Bears at CommanderSkins -7 (44.5)
Just when everyone panicked on Fields he showed everyone why he's here. Sadly, late in the game, he also showed everyone why they bailed on him. Claypool a " healthy" scratch last game ( only the Bears can pull off an awful trade like that ) so who knows if he will suit up on a short week. Kmet finally broke out and DJ Moore catches a TD that wasn't a TD but whatever. River boat Ron set up perfectly to live up to his name and he decides to play it safe and it burned him. Now they have to get that stink off and try and get a W on a short week. As fans, we've been fairly blessed with a good product on TNF recently so of course they throw us this mess of a game that of course ill watch. Lean the points here especially at 7. No clue on the total.
- Jags at Bills -6 (48)
London game, Jags will stay in across the pond vs traveling home then back again. Bills first time in London and like Sac mentioned as his GOY, the line isn't cooperating but for me thats a good thing. Everyone will see how easily the Bills dismantled the hottest team in the league with ease and how the Jags struggled against the Falcons for roughly 3 quarters before ultimately putting them away. The Jags have now played 8 games at Wembley so the familiarity with that stadium has to be an advantage. But, will this offense be able to score enough points to keep it close with Buffalo? Its the NFL so I say yes. Lean the 6.
- Texicans at Falcons -1 (41)
The projected "bust" of a QB in this draft is looking like the best rookie QB. His numbers have been very impressive and he's doing it with some relatively unknown pass catchers in Nico and Dell. He's seeing the field very well and has been extremely accurate. The same can't be said about Ridder. I thought for sure they would make a change there but as I type this Smith says he's sticking with Ridder ( at least for one more week ). Bijan, no doubt, is a special back and no better system to thrive than Atlanta but Ridder is just killing them with turnovers and bad QB play. Where is Pitts? Does this guy even play football anymore? I swear I never see him. If you are Atlanta here, your TOP in this game needs to be like 70/30 if you want to win this one. I see a ton of Koo field goals in this one. Play his prop. No lean on the game or total.
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bye week szn with 4 teams off.....also awaiting the Giants game to get that line. GL gents
- Bears at CommanderSkins -7 (44.5)
Just when everyone panicked on Fields he showed everyone why he's here. Sadly, late in the game, he also showed everyone why they bailed on him. Claypool a " healthy" scratch last game ( only the Bears can pull off an awful trade like that ) so who knows if he will suit up on a short week. Kmet finally broke out and DJ Moore catches a TD that wasn't a TD but whatever. River boat Ron set up perfectly to live up to his name and he decides to play it safe and it burned him. Now they have to get that stink off and try and get a W on a short week. As fans, we've been fairly blessed with a good product on TNF recently so of course they throw us this mess of a game that of course ill watch. Lean the points here especially at 7. No clue on the total.
- Jags at Bills -6 (48)
London game, Jags will stay in across the pond vs traveling home then back again. Bills first time in London and like Sac mentioned as his GOY, the line isn't cooperating but for me thats a good thing. Everyone will see how easily the Bills dismantled the hottest team in the league with ease and how the Jags struggled against the Falcons for roughly 3 quarters before ultimately putting them away. The Jags have now played 8 games at Wembley so the familiarity with that stadium has to be an advantage. But, will this offense be able to score enough points to keep it close with Buffalo? Its the NFL so I say yes. Lean the 6.
- Texicans at Falcons -1 (41)
The projected "bust" of a QB in this draft is looking like the best rookie QB. His numbers have been very impressive and he's doing it with some relatively unknown pass catchers in Nico and Dell. He's seeing the field very well and has been extremely accurate. The same can't be said about Ridder. I thought for sure they would make a change there but as I type this Smith says he's sticking with Ridder ( at least for one more week ). Bijan, no doubt, is a special back and no better system to thrive than Atlanta but Ridder is just killing them with turnovers and bad QB play. Where is Pitts? Does this guy even play football anymore? I swear I never see him. If you are Atlanta here, your TOP in this game needs to be like 70/30 if you want to win this one. I see a ton of Koo field goals in this one. Play his prop. No lean on the game or total.
Speaking of young QBs, not sure what the Panthers saw in Young. He's tiny, his decision making is suspect and he's running for his life. Not the most built QB to be taking those kind of hits week to week. Its wayyyyy early I get it but I swear this team looked competent with the Red Rifle back there but I understand they have to play their guy. Huch will have a field day on Sunday. The Lions hype this offseason and late last season seems to be coming true. Theres a ton to like about this team from top to bottom. Its really hard not to root for them. They are built for a long run and Goff might be the perfect guy to drive the bus. Nothing flashy but not gonna kill em. Montgomery, much to my chagrin, looks great with a mixture of Gibbs who is underutilized and maybe by design. I guess ill never understand why a team loses Swift, drafts a 1st rounder then simply doesn't use him. As for this one, I'm not sure Lions are worthy of being heavy favs like this. While the D has been impressive they still gave up 37 to Seattle so its not a unit I trust to shut down anyone in the NFL. But, I'm certainly not taking the Cats either.
- Titans at Colts -1.5 (42.5)
King Henry finally looked good. Tannehill still very meh and mistake prone. Was last weeks win a product of what the Titans did or how inept the Bengals are? I lean the ladder. Colts looked dead for 3 quarters last week until some Richardson magic made this much more interesting than it should have been. I really want no part of this game. Moss for indy has looked great but game script took him out of last weeks game and the matchup with this Titans D won't help him. Ive been super impressed with Richardson and it shows why they took him so high. Prototypical new age QB that looks like he will be a player for quite some time. If anyone has an angle on this one I'm all ears.
- Saints at Patriots -1.5 (39.5)
What can be said about the Pats that isn't already known? This team stinks and it won't get any easier with the Saints D coming to Gillette. We've discussed already how the old school philosophy of how Bill wants to play football is simply out of touch. Its not working and they don't any real playmakers at QB or WR to mask boring football. I swear I think I've seen maybe 3 drives total in the first 4 weeks where they looked like a competent team. Thats it. On the other side of the Ball, Carr hasn't looked good at all. This game will feature 2 bad QBs and juice depending, ill be forced to bet both to throw picks in this one. Also lean to the under but turnovers and short fields might push this one over.
- Ravens at Steelers +4.5 (38.5)
Anyone wanna back this team with the Tomlin off a loss angle? Anyone? Not sure the severity of Pickett's injury but from the looks of it it might be the Mitch show on Sunday. Pickens can't catch, Diontae still on IR, Harris can't run. Freiermuth ? don't know her. Ravens have a ton of injuries but caught Cle in a bad injury spot themselves and looked great. Other than history on the side of this matchup I can't see myself putting any amount on money on this Pitt team moving forward. Now, if they decided to fire Canada mid week I might change my mind. Stay tuned. Initial lean to the under here in a typical AFC North snooze fest.
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- Panthers at Lions -9 (45)
Speaking of young QBs, not sure what the Panthers saw in Young. He's tiny, his decision making is suspect and he's running for his life. Not the most built QB to be taking those kind of hits week to week. Its wayyyyy early I get it but I swear this team looked competent with the Red Rifle back there but I understand they have to play their guy. Huch will have a field day on Sunday. The Lions hype this offseason and late last season seems to be coming true. Theres a ton to like about this team from top to bottom. Its really hard not to root for them. They are built for a long run and Goff might be the perfect guy to drive the bus. Nothing flashy but not gonna kill em. Montgomery, much to my chagrin, looks great with a mixture of Gibbs who is underutilized and maybe by design. I guess ill never understand why a team loses Swift, drafts a 1st rounder then simply doesn't use him. As for this one, I'm not sure Lions are worthy of being heavy favs like this. While the D has been impressive they still gave up 37 to Seattle so its not a unit I trust to shut down anyone in the NFL. But, I'm certainly not taking the Cats either.
- Titans at Colts -1.5 (42.5)
King Henry finally looked good. Tannehill still very meh and mistake prone. Was last weeks win a product of what the Titans did or how inept the Bengals are? I lean the ladder. Colts looked dead for 3 quarters last week until some Richardson magic made this much more interesting than it should have been. I really want no part of this game. Moss for indy has looked great but game script took him out of last weeks game and the matchup with this Titans D won't help him. Ive been super impressed with Richardson and it shows why they took him so high. Prototypical new age QB that looks like he will be a player for quite some time. If anyone has an angle on this one I'm all ears.
- Saints at Patriots -1.5 (39.5)
What can be said about the Pats that isn't already known? This team stinks and it won't get any easier with the Saints D coming to Gillette. We've discussed already how the old school philosophy of how Bill wants to play football is simply out of touch. Its not working and they don't any real playmakers at QB or WR to mask boring football. I swear I think I've seen maybe 3 drives total in the first 4 weeks where they looked like a competent team. Thats it. On the other side of the Ball, Carr hasn't looked good at all. This game will feature 2 bad QBs and juice depending, ill be forced to bet both to throw picks in this one. Also lean to the under but turnovers and short fields might push this one over.
- Ravens at Steelers +4.5 (38.5)
Anyone wanna back this team with the Tomlin off a loss angle? Anyone? Not sure the severity of Pickett's injury but from the looks of it it might be the Mitch show on Sunday. Pickens can't catch, Diontae still on IR, Harris can't run. Freiermuth ? don't know her. Ravens have a ton of injuries but caught Cle in a bad injury spot themselves and looked great. Other than history on the side of this matchup I can't see myself putting any amount on money on this Pitt team moving forward. Now, if they decided to fire Canada mid week I might change my mind. Stay tuned. Initial lean to the under here in a typical AFC North snooze fest.
I debated grabbing the +4 when I saw this line but quickly down to 3. The Bengals are a complete mess. Burrow literally can't move and is a statue back there and teams are teeing off. He's one bad move away from KD'ing that achilles and they know it. But the dude is trying to fight through it but its simply not working and even trying to gameplan around a guy that can't move isn't working. But, if there is such a thing as a "get right" game or get right team its this one. If he looks mid against them It might be time to shut him down for a while. Possibly the season if this results in a loss. Cardinals, at least offensively, have put together some pretty good tape. I think they can do enough here to keep this close or even pull the upset. I know a few of us regulars pegged the Bengals to be a nice regression candidate and its looking like that is coming true before our eyes. I wish I took the 4 but might still take the 3. Lets see where the week takes us.
- Eagles at Rams +4 (50)
Bottom line, this Rams team is fun. This should be a good one. Eagles are living on the edge and they have an absolutely brutal stretch of games upcoming that will test how good this team really is. My eyes tell me they are winning but winning ugly. Is that what good teams do? Or are they getting lucky? time will tell and it will tell us very fast. Starting with this week. A lot of people had the Rams at or near the bottom of the NFC west when they sold their soul to win a Title but they still have some really good playmakers, a really good veteran QB, oh and a helluva head coach. This will be a fun one and I see a ton of points scored here. Kupp rumored to be practicing this week but I doubt he pushes it to play this week. No need, Puca is the man. When Stafford finds a guy he can trust he locks on and doesn't let go. Is this stat true, Swift, prior to last week was averaging 5.6 yards BEFORE contact? thats insane. Play both TTs and the over in this one. Should be fun.
- Jets at Broncos -2 (43.5)
Of course after the fun one we get this one. What can be said? If it wasn't for Fields this Denver team should be 0-4 and honestly I wanted to see it after Payton opened his mouth and karma instantly shoved it up his ass. That guy can get bent. As for the Jets, I know the talk all week was how good Wilson looked but in the crucial moment he cost his team the game and there are so many atta boys a team can give a guy before they simply need wins. Not good try. Talk of Rodgers possibly making it back THIS SEASON for the playoffs? in the words of Jim Mora " playoffs, playoffs? I just wanna win a game" No need to aggressively rehab if there is nothing to come back to. its that simple. Can anyone tell my why they got Cook? He hardly plays and when he does he looks slow and old AF. Puzzling signing. I have no idea whats gonna happen in this one but I do know it will be ugly as hell. Pass
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Bengals at Cards +3 (44.5)
I debated grabbing the +4 when I saw this line but quickly down to 3. The Bengals are a complete mess. Burrow literally can't move and is a statue back there and teams are teeing off. He's one bad move away from KD'ing that achilles and they know it. But the dude is trying to fight through it but its simply not working and even trying to gameplan around a guy that can't move isn't working. But, if there is such a thing as a "get right" game or get right team its this one. If he looks mid against them It might be time to shut him down for a while. Possibly the season if this results in a loss. Cardinals, at least offensively, have put together some pretty good tape. I think they can do enough here to keep this close or even pull the upset. I know a few of us regulars pegged the Bengals to be a nice regression candidate and its looking like that is coming true before our eyes. I wish I took the 4 but might still take the 3. Lets see where the week takes us.
- Eagles at Rams +4 (50)
Bottom line, this Rams team is fun. This should be a good one. Eagles are living on the edge and they have an absolutely brutal stretch of games upcoming that will test how good this team really is. My eyes tell me they are winning but winning ugly. Is that what good teams do? Or are they getting lucky? time will tell and it will tell us very fast. Starting with this week. A lot of people had the Rams at or near the bottom of the NFC west when they sold their soul to win a Title but they still have some really good playmakers, a really good veteran QB, oh and a helluva head coach. This will be a fun one and I see a ton of points scored here. Kupp rumored to be practicing this week but I doubt he pushes it to play this week. No need, Puca is the man. When Stafford finds a guy he can trust he locks on and doesn't let go. Is this stat true, Swift, prior to last week was averaging 5.6 yards BEFORE contact? thats insane. Play both TTs and the over in this one. Should be fun.
- Jets at Broncos -2 (43.5)
Of course after the fun one we get this one. What can be said? If it wasn't for Fields this Denver team should be 0-4 and honestly I wanted to see it after Payton opened his mouth and karma instantly shoved it up his ass. That guy can get bent. As for the Jets, I know the talk all week was how good Wilson looked but in the crucial moment he cost his team the game and there are so many atta boys a team can give a guy before they simply need wins. Not good try. Talk of Rodgers possibly making it back THIS SEASON for the playoffs? in the words of Jim Mora " playoffs, playoffs? I just wanna win a game" No need to aggressively rehab if there is nothing to come back to. its that simple. Can anyone tell my why they got Cook? He hardly plays and when he does he looks slow and old AF. Puzzling signing. I have no idea whats gonna happen in this one but I do know it will be ugly as hell. Pass
Another fun one I expect to see some fireworks. Until Kirk ultimately throws a back breaking pick and Patty moves them into FG range for the game winner. The Chiefs are one of the worst teams ATS but seem to find ways to win ( insert fix here ). Will we see more of Akers this game to help Kirk or will they stick with what they know in Mattison? Are they gonna find ways to get the rookie Addison the ball ( 1 target )? Minny is the most blitz happy team in the league and that spells disaster when you got a QB in Mahomes who can improvise and check out of plays to neutralize that rush. However, he is prone to hold the ball looking for that big play so it might be effective this week. Initial lean to the points here but ill what the public decides to do with this line.
- Cows at Niners -3.5 (44.5)
Finally we get to the game of the week. No, not because I'm a homer. its because the world will be watching and you know you will. If not for the complete no show in AZ this should be a matchup of two 4-0 teams on Sunday night. For NFC supremacy. Not much to dive into here. This game will be won with defense. Both have great ones. Niners with the superior run game and a QB that fits this system perfectly. obvious coaching advantage for SF as well. they are healthy and at home. I don't know if this game is truly a litmus test in Dallas' eyes since they know this team has handled them the past few years that a regular season win for "revenge" won't mean much. Both teams have bigger goals. Will be interesting to see how both QB's manage drives with constant pressure in their face. Initial lean to laying the points with SF but the homer in me won't allow it. Talk amongst yourselves.
- Packers at Raidazz +2 (44.5)
Seems the raiders and Devante avoided a very serious injury that I thought he suffered on Sunday but he came back and played well. Now, he gets his old team and hopefully gets his QB back. Coaching advantage in LaFleur here. McDaniels is an absolute idiot and made yet another boneheaded call by not challenging the TD on Sunday and it almost bit him in the ass. Not to mention 2 weeks ago by kicking the FG. If Davis wasn't on the spectrum he would have fired his ass on the spot. This team is a dumpster and it wouldnt shock me that we start to see veterans fake injuries just to preserve their careers. Rumors are Devante and Crosby have already vocalized such a thing. And who can blame them. I wouldnt want to waste my prime years playing for this organization. As for the Packers, Love looks like he can play a bit in this league. He still doesn't blow me anyway by any means but getting Watson back helps. They should be able to move the ball and put up points in this one. Lean to the over. But, its Monday so always tricky.
Giants at Phins...........TBD
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- Chiefs at Vikings +5.5 (52.5)
Another fun one I expect to see some fireworks. Until Kirk ultimately throws a back breaking pick and Patty moves them into FG range for the game winner. The Chiefs are one of the worst teams ATS but seem to find ways to win ( insert fix here ). Will we see more of Akers this game to help Kirk or will they stick with what they know in Mattison? Are they gonna find ways to get the rookie Addison the ball ( 1 target )? Minny is the most blitz happy team in the league and that spells disaster when you got a QB in Mahomes who can improvise and check out of plays to neutralize that rush. However, he is prone to hold the ball looking for that big play so it might be effective this week. Initial lean to the points here but ill what the public decides to do with this line.
- Cows at Niners -3.5 (44.5)
Finally we get to the game of the week. No, not because I'm a homer. its because the world will be watching and you know you will. If not for the complete no show in AZ this should be a matchup of two 4-0 teams on Sunday night. For NFC supremacy. Not much to dive into here. This game will be won with defense. Both have great ones. Niners with the superior run game and a QB that fits this system perfectly. obvious coaching advantage for SF as well. they are healthy and at home. I don't know if this game is truly a litmus test in Dallas' eyes since they know this team has handled them the past few years that a regular season win for "revenge" won't mean much. Both teams have bigger goals. Will be interesting to see how both QB's manage drives with constant pressure in their face. Initial lean to laying the points with SF but the homer in me won't allow it. Talk amongst yourselves.
- Packers at Raidazz +2 (44.5)
Seems the raiders and Devante avoided a very serious injury that I thought he suffered on Sunday but he came back and played well. Now, he gets his old team and hopefully gets his QB back. Coaching advantage in LaFleur here. McDaniels is an absolute idiot and made yet another boneheaded call by not challenging the TD on Sunday and it almost bit him in the ass. Not to mention 2 weeks ago by kicking the FG. If Davis wasn't on the spectrum he would have fired his ass on the spot. This team is a dumpster and it wouldnt shock me that we start to see veterans fake injuries just to preserve their careers. Rumors are Devante and Crosby have already vocalized such a thing. And who can blame them. I wouldnt want to waste my prime years playing for this organization. As for the Packers, Love looks like he can play a bit in this league. He still doesn't blow me anyway by any means but getting Watson back helps. They should be able to move the ball and put up points in this one. Lean to the over. But, its Monday so always tricky.
@undermysac ill defer to you. Was referencing the bad fumble that led to a TD and Denver to get right back in the game.
Getsy called the first play action pass from under center that play. Denver sent a corner blitz while his back was turned to the D.
If Justin went 23/24 in the 1H out of the shotgun, with the only incomplition being a Hail Mary, why would he call the first pass from under center in the 4th quarter?
Also Denver blitzed nearly every formation when the Bears were under center. Getsy should of known.
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@undermysac ill defer to you. Was referencing the bad fumble that led to a TD and Denver to get right back in the game.
Getsy called the first play action pass from under center that play. Denver sent a corner blitz while his back was turned to the D.
If Justin went 23/24 in the 1H out of the shotgun, with the only incomplition being a Hail Mary, why would he call the first pass from under center in the 4th quarter?
Also Denver blitzed nearly every formation when the Bears were under center. Getsy should of known.
Update. Still no line on the giants game. At least locally. Oddsmakers deep in a lab thinking “what number can we possibly throw out there that will get ANYONE to take NY”
Update. Still no line on the giants game. At least locally. Oddsmakers deep in a lab thinking “what number can we possibly throw out there that will get ANYONE to take NY”
Miami can name their score here. This Giants team is a sinking ship and it’s not even week 5. Daboll showing Jones on the surface tablet that Waller was wide open for 6 on that pick sums it up. ( I assume that’s what he was showing him since it was blatantly obvious ) phins will want to get that bad loss wiped away from memory and no better opponent. 11 in the NFL is a ton but I see this line going north very soon. If it goes south I’ll be shocked. If ya like it lock it.
aaaaand there it is
Giants at Phins -11 (50)
Miami can name their score here. This Giants team is a sinking ship and it’s not even week 5. Daboll showing Jones on the surface tablet that Waller was wide open for 6 on that pick sums it up. ( I assume that’s what he was showing him since it was blatantly obvious ) phins will want to get that bad loss wiped away from memory and no better opponent. 11 in the NFL is a ton but I see this line going north very soon. If it goes south I’ll be shocked. If ya like it lock it.
Ravens/Pitt Ian Rap. saying it's a bone bruise, and i'm fairly certain Ravens will get 2 - 3 starters back. I'm going to back them on ML for like -220 which is something i never do but Ravens D is playing well and slowly the offense and Monken are getting to know each other. To be honest i think i'd rather see Pickett back there than Trubinsky.
Ravens/Pitt Ian Rap. saying it's a bone bruise, and i'm fairly certain Ravens will get 2 - 3 starters back. I'm going to back them on ML for like -220 which is something i never do but Ravens D is playing well and slowly the offense and Monken are getting to know each other. To be honest i think i'd rather see Pickett back there than Trubinsky.
Completely agree on falcons...if they win TOP it means game was close or they had lead and ran the ball....if they don't win TOP they lose. Think last week was 22-38 TOP loss for them
Thought the gb/lv and den/nyj totals were high...was expecting under 42 on both
Debating no/ne under...market already pushed it to 40.5 ...would prefer if mac plays instead of zappe ...carr not 100%...if winston goes that's scary he's a pick machine
Also like balt/pitt under 38.5...hoping it goes a little higher...will look at over 3.5 fg depending on weather
Waiting on a couple props. Couple good matchups
Is your starting LT back for the 9ers game?
@BIGDTITLE
Nice job
Completely agree on falcons...if they win TOP it means game was close or they had lead and ran the ball....if they don't win TOP they lose. Think last week was 22-38 TOP loss for them
Thought the gb/lv and den/nyj totals were high...was expecting under 42 on both
Debating no/ne under...market already pushed it to 40.5 ...would prefer if mac plays instead of zappe ...carr not 100%...if winston goes that's scary he's a pick machine
Also like balt/pitt under 38.5...hoping it goes a little higher...will look at over 3.5 fg depending on weather
Claypool a " healthy" scratch last game ( only the Bears can pull off an awful trade like that ) so who knows if he will suit up on a short week. Kmet finally broke out and DJ Moore catches a TD that wasn't a TD but whatever. River boat Ron set up perfectly to live up to his name and he decides to play it safe and it burned him. Now they have to get that stink off and try and get a W on a short week. As fans, we've been fairly blessed with a good product on TNF recently so of course they throw us this mess of a game that of course ill watch. Lean the points here especially at 7. No clue on the total. 
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