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    bigred84
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 11:49 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Saturday will be only the 2nd time Lamar has faced the Steelers @ home.

    Line looks high.....Watt's status confused

    Think Ravens finally have them in their sights...an_wink

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Saturday will be only the 2nd time Lamar has faced the Steelers @ home.

    Line looks high.....Watt's status confused

    Think Ravens finally have them in their sights...an_wink

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 2:49 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @iConsciousness  We need a break down of the battle of the Ducks. Game is a short 2 days away.

    Ok I'll get you started. 

    Denver is 4-3 ats as a dog

    LAC are 7-2 ats as a fav

    Denver is 6-2 ats after a win

    LAC are 3-2 ats after a loss

    This is high level handicapping right here. an_boggienight

    TW wants to be inside me

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @iConsciousness  We need a break down of the battle of the Ducks. Game is a short 2 days away.

    Ok I'll get you started. 

    Denver is 4-3 ats as a dog

    LAC are 7-2 ats as a fav

    Denver is 6-2 ats after a win

    LAC are 3-2 ats after a loss

    This is high level handicapping right here. an_boggienight

    TW wants to be inside me

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 2:51 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Saturday will be only the 2nd time Lamar has faced the Steelers @ home. Line looks high.....Watt's status  Think Ravens finally have them in their sights...

    Heard some talking head/ex coach chirping that the Steelers should switch back to Justin Fields...

    I mean, he has 4 wins in 6 games. Meanwhile Caleb Williams has 4 wins in 14 games.

    an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Saturday will be only the 2nd time Lamar has faced the Steelers @ home. Line looks high.....Watt's status  Think Ravens finally have them in their sights...

    Heard some talking head/ex coach chirping that the Steelers should switch back to Justin Fields...

    I mean, he has 4 wins in 6 games. Meanwhile Caleb Williams has 4 wins in 14 games.

    an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 2:54 PM ET #54

     

    Flex: NFL has moved the Dolphins-Browns game out of Sunday Night Football in Week 17 and replaced it with Falcons vs. Commanders.

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    Flex: NFL has moved the Dolphins-Browns game out of Sunday Night Football in Week 17 and replaced it with Falcons vs. Commanders.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 3:41 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by IntenseOperator:

    Flex: NFL has moved the Dolphins-Browns game out of Sunday Night Football in Week 17 and replaced it with Falcons vs. Commanders.
    Makes total sense to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntenseOperator:

    Flex: NFL has moved the Dolphins-Browns game out of Sunday Night Football in Week 17 and replaced it with Falcons vs. Commanders.
    Makes total sense to me!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 4:33 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Saturday will be only the 2nd time Lamar has faced the Steelers @ home. Line looks high.....Watt's status  Think Ravens finally have them in their sights... Heard some talking head/ex coach chirping that the Steelers should switch back to Justin Fields... I mean, he has 4 wins in 6 games. Meanwhile Caleb Williams has 4 wins in 14 games.

    Not his faultconfused

    Bears O line is new_poop

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Saturday will be only the 2nd time Lamar has faced the Steelers @ home. Line looks high.....Watt's status  Think Ravens finally have them in their sights... Heard some talking head/ex coach chirping that the Steelers should switch back to Justin Fields... I mean, he has 4 wins in 6 games. Meanwhile Caleb Williams has 4 wins in 14 games.

    Not his faultconfused

    Bears O line is new_poop

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 4:48 PM ET #57

    @bigred84

     But when Fields was the qb, the o line wasn't a problem? Got it.

    Also, everyone said that Fields held the ball too long. It's kinda what Caleb also does.

    One thing I can agree on, is that both these qb's have had terrible coaching, and a revolving door of OC's. That's not good for anyone 

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    @bigred84

     But when Fields was the qb, the o line wasn't a problem? Got it.

    Also, everyone said that Fields held the ball too long. It's kinda what Caleb also does.

    One thing I can agree on, is that both these qb's have had terrible coaching, and a revolving door of OC's. That's not good for anyone 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 5:08 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Sac is right Mahomes wont play..... Vegas isnt making them the dog with him starting...

    I’d wait to make any moves involving KC

    reading he was listed as a full participant in practice todayan_popcorn

    medicine has come a long way

    unless…..

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    he was fakingan_praise

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Sac is right Mahomes wont play..... Vegas isnt making them the dog with him starting...

    I’d wait to make any moves involving KC

    reading he was listed as a full participant in practice todayan_popcorn

    medicine has come a long way

    unless…..

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    he was fakingan_praise

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 5:43 PM ET #59

     Caleb

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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     Caleb

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 6:38 PM ET #60

    By golly, Mahomes was a full participant in practice today. The line has flipped to KC -2.5

    This dude might join Broadway after his career is done, the way he limped off the field on Sunday 

    an_beatup

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    By golly, Mahomes was a full participant in practice today. The line has flipped to KC -2.5

    This dude might join Broadway after his career is done, the way he limped off the field on Sunday 

    an_beatup

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 10:45 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    By golly, Mahomes was a full participant in practice today. The line has flipped to KC -2.5 This dude might join Broadway after his career is done, the way he limped off the field on Sunday
    Don't trust everything you see an_eek2

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    By golly, Mahomes was a full participant in practice today. The line has flipped to KC -2.5 This dude might join Broadway after his career is done, the way he limped off the field on Sunday
    Don't trust everything you see an_eek2

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2024 - 10:56 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrax:

    so far I got :   Redskin +3   - will see if the line goes up by game day. Colts -4.5

     

    I bought out of the Colts bet..I might be looking at the Over instead... so far it's just...

     

    Redskins +3

     

    an_2drinks

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrax:

    so far I got :   Redskin +3   - will see if the line goes up by game day. Colts -4.5

     

    I bought out of the Colts bet..I might be looking at the Over instead... so far it's just...

     

    Redskins +3

     

    an_2drinks

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 7:44 AM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Saturday will be only the 2nd time Lamar has faced the Steelers @ home. Line looks high.....Watt's status  Think Ravens finally have them in their sights... Heard some talking head/ex coach chirping that the Steelers should switch back to Justin Fields... I mean, he has 4 wins in 6 games. Meanwhile Caleb Williams has 4 wins in 14 games.
    Wont matter who starts it's an L  peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Saturday will be only the 2nd time Lamar has faced the Steelers @ home. Line looks high.....Watt's status  Think Ravens finally have them in their sights... Heard some talking head/ex coach chirping that the Steelers should switch back to Justin Fields... I mean, he has 4 wins in 6 games. Meanwhile Caleb Williams has 4 wins in 14 games.
    Wont matter who starts it's an L  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 8:00 AM ET #64

    What a great week to take Carolina +4, I'll wait for +4.5 possibly 5.

    The combination of Will Levis and Mason Rudolph led to 27 points(missed extra pt) vs the vaunted Bengals defense. 

    The Browns TT sits at 16.5 vs the Bengals with DTR at qb. You can currently get the over at +145 at bovada. Nick Chub is also out, but he wasn't doing much when playing this year.

    I'll wait for the Commanders line to get back to 3.5, it's getting there. But, will the Commanders be another sharp play that gets destroyed by a public fav? It's been a common theme lately. 

    Everyone hates the Vikings, just check my thread in the mains. This is a good thing, let their perception be shit. They are a very good team.

    Hot damn I'm leaning Jets plus the points at home. First time since week 1, I'm 0-1 on the Jets this year and have avoided them like the plague this year. It feels like they are a team that have figured things out a little too late.

    an_lightening

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    What a great week to take Carolina +4, I'll wait for +4.5 possibly 5.

    The combination of Will Levis and Mason Rudolph led to 27 points(missed extra pt) vs the vaunted Bengals defense. 

    The Browns TT sits at 16.5 vs the Bengals with DTR at qb. You can currently get the over at +145 at bovada. Nick Chub is also out, but he wasn't doing much when playing this year.

    I'll wait for the Commanders line to get back to 3.5, it's getting there. But, will the Commanders be another sharp play that gets destroyed by a public fav? It's been a common theme lately. 

    Everyone hates the Vikings, just check my thread in the mains. This is a good thing, let their perception be shit. They are a very good team.

    Hot damn I'm leaning Jets plus the points at home. First time since week 1, I'm 0-1 on the Jets this year and have avoided them like the plague this year. It feels like they are a team that have figured things out a little too late.

    an_lightening

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 9:06 AM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by stucresspe:

    hugh, getty, abn,,,,,,,,,,,i fear trainwreck has them held captive in the igloo,,,,,,rumor has it tw has 1000 bottles of baby oil lyin around in that igloo  a la diddy,,,

    Post of the year right here. And I'm afraid that it's factual 

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by stucresspe:

    hugh, getty, abn,,,,,,,,,,,i fear trainwreck has them held captive in the igloo,,,,,,rumor has it tw has 1000 bottles of baby oil lyin around in that igloo  a la diddy,,,

    Post of the year right here. And I'm afraid that it's factual 

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 10:03 AM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    What a great week to take Carolina +4, I'll wait for +4.5 possibly 5. The combination of Will Levis and Mason Rudolph led to 27 points(missed extra pt) vs the vaunted Bengals defense.  The Browns TT sits at 16.5 vs the Bengals with DTR at qb. You can currently get the over at +145 at bovada. Nick Chub is also out, but he wasn't doing much when playing this year. I'll wait for the Commanders line to get back to 3.5, it's getting there. But, will the Commanders be another sharp play that gets destroyed by a public fav? It's been a common theme lately.  Everyone hates the Vikings, just check my thread in the mains. This is a good thing, let their perception be shit. They are a very good team. Hot damn I'm leaning Jets plus the points at home. First time since week 1, I'm 0-1 on the Jets this year and have avoided them like the plague this year. It feels like they are a team that have figured things out a little too late.

    Took Eagles -3.5 bought down to 2.5...

    Should have waited..sad

    Skins oline gave up 8 sacks to the  Saints..

    Eagles D line will eat them alive...an_wink

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    What a great week to take Carolina +4, I'll wait for +4.5 possibly 5. The combination of Will Levis and Mason Rudolph led to 27 points(missed extra pt) vs the vaunted Bengals defense.  The Browns TT sits at 16.5 vs the Bengals with DTR at qb. You can currently get the over at +145 at bovada. Nick Chub is also out, but he wasn't doing much when playing this year. I'll wait for the Commanders line to get back to 3.5, it's getting there. But, will the Commanders be another sharp play that gets destroyed by a public fav? It's been a common theme lately.  Everyone hates the Vikings, just check my thread in the mains. This is a good thing, let their perception be shit. They are a very good team. Hot damn I'm leaning Jets plus the points at home. First time since week 1, I'm 0-1 on the Jets this year and have avoided them like the plague this year. It feels like they are a team that have figured things out a little too late.

    Took Eagles -3.5 bought down to 2.5...

    Should have waited..sad

    Skins oline gave up 8 sacks to the  Saints..

    Eagles D line will eat them alive...an_wink

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 11:37 AM ET #67

    off the net...

    The Bears and Giants are the only teams in the league without a 50+ passing play this season.

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    off the net...

    The Bears and Giants are the only teams in the league without a 50+ passing play this season.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 12:01 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @iConsciousness  We need a break down of the battle of the Ducks. Game is a short 2 days away.

     

    an_eek2

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    @iConsciousness  We need a break down of the battle of the Ducks. Game is a short 2 days away.

     

    an_eek2

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 1:12 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: @iConsciousness  We need a break down of the battle of the Ducks. Game is a short 2 days away.
    All things being somewhat equal gimmie the home team to pull it out. reallyhappy  an_happydude

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    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: @iConsciousness  We need a break down of the battle of the Ducks. Game is a short 2 days away.
    All things being somewhat equal gimmie the home team to pull it out. reallyhappy  an_happydude

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness: Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: @iConsciousness  We need a break down of the battle of the Ducks. Game is a short 2 days away. All things being somewhat equal gimmie the home team to pull it out.


    This was the only game the Chargers have got their ass whooped this season. The rails fell off in the Steelers game, but both their pro bowl level tackles left the game and that's when the wheels fell off.

    There's no way to know for certain, but part of me wonders if the Chargers were looking ahead towards this Broncos game tomorrow. This game is obviously much more important as it relates to playoff seeding (being an in-conference and in-division game). I know that Denzel Perryman -- the team's best run defender -- could have played last week, but beat reporters mentioned that the team wanted to save him for this game and give him that extra time to heal up (groin). Also, the Chargers began derailing last week against the Buccs once starting CB, Cam Hart, left. The team's depth leaves a lot to be desired.

    The Broncos are also dealing with some injuries -- the key one being Patrick Surtain, but is looking like a situation in which he might play. (Full participant in practice yesterday.) Riley Moss was limited.

    I'll be at the game tomorrow, and perhaps the tailgate section earlier on, so I won't have any thoughts to share after tonight. But you'll read an eyeful form me when I get home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness: Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: @iConsciousness  We need a break down of the battle of the Ducks. Game is a short 2 days away. All things being somewhat equal gimmie the home team to pull it out.


    This was the only game the Chargers have got their ass whooped this season. The rails fell off in the Steelers game, but both their pro bowl level tackles left the game and that's when the wheels fell off.

    There's no way to know for certain, but part of me wonders if the Chargers were looking ahead towards this Broncos game tomorrow. This game is obviously much more important as it relates to playoff seeding (being an in-conference and in-division game). I know that Denzel Perryman -- the team's best run defender -- could have played last week, but beat reporters mentioned that the team wanted to save him for this game and give him that extra time to heal up (groin). Also, the Chargers began derailing last week against the Buccs once starting CB, Cam Hart, left. The team's depth leaves a lot to be desired.

    The Broncos are also dealing with some injuries -- the key one being Patrick Surtain, but is looking like a situation in which he might play. (Full participant in practice yesterday.) Riley Moss was limited.

    I'll be at the game tomorrow, and perhaps the tailgate section earlier on, so I won't have any thoughts to share after tonight. But you'll read an eyeful form me when I get home.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 2:21 PM ET #71

    Another angle I've drummed up in my mind could be an x-factor. Sean Payton really wanted to be the Chargers head coach prior to Staley's last year. There was talk that he had a shot after that 2H meltdown in the Jaguars WC game. The Chargers decided to give Staley one more year and pivoted away from Payton. From what I read at the time, he scoffed at the lack of interest. (Keep in mind, the Chargers would have had to trade for him, like the Broncos did. I sure as hell didn't want him.)

    Anyway, the Chargers ended up going with a "big name" head coach this year that he probably wants to remind the Chargers organization that they could've had him instead.

    I see that he's already firing up the Broncos fanbase by telling them to be loud. Yeah, I get it, normal stuff that any head coach would want, but I get this feeling it's more personable with him. Especially with the fact that the Chargers beat them *in* Denver earlier this year.

    How will Jim Harbaugh and Jesse Minter respond after that drubbing last weekend? (I have no hope for Greg Roman.) We'll find out.

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    Another angle I've drummed up in my mind could be an x-factor. Sean Payton really wanted to be the Chargers head coach prior to Staley's last year. There was talk that he had a shot after that 2H meltdown in the Jaguars WC game. The Chargers decided to give Staley one more year and pivoted away from Payton. From what I read at the time, he scoffed at the lack of interest. (Keep in mind, the Chargers would have had to trade for him, like the Broncos did. I sure as hell didn't want him.)

    Anyway, the Chargers ended up going with a "big name" head coach this year that he probably wants to remind the Chargers organization that they could've had him instead.

    I see that he's already firing up the Broncos fanbase by telling them to be loud. Yeah, I get it, normal stuff that any head coach would want, but I get this feeling it's more personable with him. Especially with the fact that the Chargers beat them *in* Denver earlier this year.

    How will Jim Harbaugh and Jesse Minter respond after that drubbing last weekend? (I have no hope for Greg Roman.) We'll find out.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 2:27 PM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness: Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: @iConsciousness  We need a break down of the battle of the Ducks. Game is a short 2 days away. All things being somewhat equal gimmie the home team to pull it out.


    This could go either way, I agree. But momentum wise, the Broncos seem to have it. They've won their last 4 games (granted, their opponents weren't any of the top teams in the NFL -- Colts, Browns, Raiders, Falcons), but momentum has its advantages. The last game they lost was to the Chiefs by 2 points. As they say, you can only play who's on your schedule.

    The Chargers have lost 3 of their last four, with the Chiefs game also a loss by 2 points. (F**k the Chiefs, btw.) The way they beat the Falcons wasn't awe-inspiring. I will say that, based on their most recent common opponents, the Chargers kept the Ravens game close, whereas the Broncos got decimated. But with the Falcons, the Broncos won handily whereas the Chargers squeezed one out. Above all else, the Chargers are not the same team without Dobbins. They have no run game without him, and that's in due part to their extremely weak IOL. 

    The Broncos are one of the more blitz happy teams in the NFL, so if the Buccs gave that O-line problems, the Broncos surely will too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness: Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: @iConsciousness  We need a break down of the battle of the Ducks. Game is a short 2 days away. All things being somewhat equal gimmie the home team to pull it out.


    This could go either way, I agree. But momentum wise, the Broncos seem to have it. They've won their last 4 games (granted, their opponents weren't any of the top teams in the NFL -- Colts, Browns, Raiders, Falcons), but momentum has its advantages. The last game they lost was to the Chiefs by 2 points. As they say, you can only play who's on your schedule.

    The Chargers have lost 3 of their last four, with the Chiefs game also a loss by 2 points. (F**k the Chiefs, btw.) The way they beat the Falcons wasn't awe-inspiring. I will say that, based on their most recent common opponents, the Chargers kept the Ravens game close, whereas the Broncos got decimated. But with the Falcons, the Broncos won handily whereas the Chargers squeezed one out. Above all else, the Chargers are not the same team without Dobbins. They have no run game without him, and that's in due part to their extremely weak IOL. 

    The Broncos are one of the more blitz happy teams in the NFL, so if the Buccs gave that O-line problems, the Broncos surely will too.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 2:41 PM ET #73

    "This was the only game the Chargers have got their ass whooped this season. The rails fell off in the Steelers game, but both their pro bowl level tackles left the game and that's when the wheels fell off."

    I realized this statement didn't make sense. "The Buccs game was the only game the Chargers have got their ass whooped on this season."

    There.

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    "This was the only game the Chargers have got their ass whooped this season. The rails fell off in the Steelers game, but both their pro bowl level tackles left the game and that's when the wheels fell off."

    I realized this statement didn't make sense. "The Buccs game was the only game the Chargers have got their ass whooped on this season."

    There.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 2:54 PM ET #74

    Call me a winner , but I kinda like The Giants+8.5 and ML+320  peace_5

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    Call me a winner , but I kinda like The Giants+8.5 and ML+320  peace_5

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2024 - 3:14 PM ET #75

    @iConsciousness

     Thanks for the thoughts.

    What's up with Herbert's ankle? Or is it foot?

    Seems like he hasn't been mobile the last few games.

    Epa and success rate #"s have been dropping with the Chargers the last 4 to 5 games.

    Something isn't right with them.

    That being said, there's no way that I'll bet on the Broncos in this game. They've been really good to me lately. But it's on the road, in division, and on a short week. No thanks, these TNF games can get weird fast.

    All things point to an UNDER as well imo.

    Cy, no Cyrax special here. Eat some pho and watch instead. 

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    @iConsciousness

     Thanks for the thoughts.

    What's up with Herbert's ankle? Or is it foot?

    Seems like he hasn't been mobile the last few games.

    Epa and success rate #"s have been dropping with the Chargers the last 4 to 5 games.

    Something isn't right with them.

    That being said, there's no way that I'll bet on the Broncos in this game. They've been really good to me lately. But it's on the road, in division, and on a short week. No thanks, these TNF games can get weird fast.

    All things point to an UNDER as well imo.

    Cy, no Cyrax special here. Eat some pho and watch instead. 

    peace_5

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