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    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 8:46 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Don't they have prescription drugs and the media in other countries,that don't have the same gun violence as the USA. American children are about three times more likely to be prescribed psychotropic medication.And how many of those turn out to be shooting and killing 18 kids?And I didn't know it was only children committing gun violence,whats your excuse for the shootings that weren't committed by children(Like Las Vegas).Oh that's the media part,right?

     

     

    What percent of mass shooters are on psychotropic medications or some other form of pharmaceutical in the US? Is that your question? 

    Im not sure. But I’d be willing to guess that the true % would shock you. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Don't they have prescription drugs and the media in other countries,that don't have the same gun violence as the USA. American children are about three times more likely to be prescribed psychotropic medication.And how many of those turn out to be shooting and killing 18 kids?And I didn't know it was only children committing gun violence,whats your excuse for the shootings that weren't committed by children(Like Las Vegas).Oh that's the media part,right?

     

     

    What percent of mass shooters are on psychotropic medications or some other form of pharmaceutical in the US? Is that your question? 

    Im not sure. But I’d be willing to guess that the true % would shock you. 

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 8:46 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Ya after he killed 18 kids you f*ckin idiot. Please no personal attacks.  So what you’re saying is a good guy with a gun is the only thing that stopped a bad guy with a gun?
    Read post #66,and see if your still as proud with yourself and this statement.Guy kills 18 kids,have no fear us good guys shot him and saved the day,thank god for guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Ya after he killed 18 kids you f*ckin idiot. Please no personal attacks.  So what you’re saying is a good guy with a gun is the only thing that stopped a bad guy with a gun?
    Read post #66,and see if your still as proud with yourself and this statement.Guy kills 18 kids,have no fear us good guys shot him and saved the day,thank god for guns.

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 8:47 PM ET #78

    Does anyone in the general public really need an assault weapon? I know everyone has a right to own one but perhaps we can start there. These weapons are killing machines.

    We are at a point where you can build your own gun or bomb with instruction on how to do so online. Do we need this type of knowledge? Do we want our kids exposed to this knowledge? 

    This weekend is Memorial Day & I'm sad to say, it might be one of the deadliest in our country's history.

    BTW..IF YOU HAVE A FLAG FLY IT. IF YOU DON'T GO BUY ONE!

     

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    Does anyone in the general public really need an assault weapon? I know everyone has a right to own one but perhaps we can start there. These weapons are killing machines.

    We are at a point where you can build your own gun or bomb with instruction on how to do so online. Do we need this type of knowledge? Do we want our kids exposed to this knowledge? 

    This weekend is Memorial Day & I'm sad to say, it might be one of the deadliest in our country's history.

    BTW..IF YOU HAVE A FLAG FLY IT. IF YOU DON'T GO BUY ONE!

     

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 8:50 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Does anyone in the general public really need an assault weapon? I know everyone has a right to own one but perhaps we can start there. These weapons are killing machines. We are at a point where you can build your own gun or bomb with instruction on how to do so online. Do we need this type of knowledge? Do we want our kids exposed to this knowledge?  This weekend is Memorial Day & I'm sad to say, it might be one of the deadliest in our country's history. BTW..IF YOU HAVE A FLAG FLY IT. IF YOU DON'T GO BUY ONE!

     

    an_praise One thing we can agree on. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Does anyone in the general public really need an assault weapon? I know everyone has a right to own one but perhaps we can start there. These weapons are killing machines. We are at a point where you can build your own gun or bomb with instruction on how to do so online. Do we need this type of knowledge? Do we want our kids exposed to this knowledge?  This weekend is Memorial Day & I'm sad to say, it might be one of the deadliest in our country's history. BTW..IF YOU HAVE A FLAG FLY IT. IF YOU DON'T GO BUY ONE!

     

    an_praise One thing we can agree on. peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 8:52 PM ET #80

    “Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons or property from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”

     

    Any questions? 

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    “Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons or property from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”

     

    Any questions? 

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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 8:53 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Does anyone in the general public really need an assault weapon? I know everyone has a right to own one but perhaps we can start there. These weapons are killing machines. We are at a point where you can build your own gun or bomb with instruction on how to do so online. Do we need this type of knowledge? Do we want our kids exposed to this knowledge?  This weekend is Memorial Day & I'm sad to say, it might be one of the deadliest in our country's history. BTW..IF YOU HAVE A FLAG FLY IT. IF YOU DON'T GO BUY ONE!    One thing we can agree on.
    You can't agree on that no one needs an assault weapon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Does anyone in the general public really need an assault weapon? I know everyone has a right to own one but perhaps we can start there. These weapons are killing machines. We are at a point where you can build your own gun or bomb with instruction on how to do so online. Do we need this type of knowledge? Do we want our kids exposed to this knowledge?  This weekend is Memorial Day & I'm sad to say, it might be one of the deadliest in our country's history. BTW..IF YOU HAVE A FLAG FLY IT. IF YOU DON'T GO BUY ONE!    One thing we can agree on.
    You can't agree on that no one needs an assault weapon?

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 8:57 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer.
    Universal background checks (should take weeks not days), mandatory safety features, penalties for dealers & gun owners if weapon is used by someone else for a criminal act, assault weapon and magazine ban, free mental health care for all, national gun buy backs for gas or gift cards, etc. Take some of the loopholes out of gun laws like the state being able to come to the homes of ex-cons who bought guns before they were convicted and confiscate them, and to homes of people who developed mental health issues AFTER the purchase of guns. There are more, but this would be a good start. But I have no confidence whatsoever that republicans would go along with any of these proposals. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer.
    Universal background checks (should take weeks not days), mandatory safety features, penalties for dealers & gun owners if weapon is used by someone else for a criminal act, assault weapon and magazine ban, free mental health care for all, national gun buy backs for gas or gift cards, etc. Take some of the loopholes out of gun laws like the state being able to come to the homes of ex-cons who bought guns before they were convicted and confiscate them, and to homes of people who developed mental health issues AFTER the purchase of guns. There are more, but this would be a good start. But I have no confidence whatsoever that republicans would go along with any of these proposals. 

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 8:59 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Don't they have prescription drugs and the media in other countries,that don't have the same gun violence as the USA.

     

    of course         but that fudges with the fascist narrative of the cult so its disregarded

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Don't they have prescription drugs and the media in other countries,that don't have the same gun violence as the USA.

     

    of course         but that fudges with the fascist narrative of the cult so its disregarded

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:00 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    “Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.” Any questions?
    Your scared of your own shadow,how do you make it thru life being such a feeble little person,always afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    “Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.” Any questions?
    Your scared of your own shadow,how do you make it thru life being such a feeble little person,always afraid.

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:01 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Does anyone in the general public really need an assault weapon?

    nope      something all intelligent people can agree on   peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Does anyone in the general public really need an assault weapon?

    nope      something all intelligent people can agree on   peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:03 PM ET #86

    Democrats control the house, the senate and the presidency. 

    Why don’t they ban assault weapons again? 

    Because they would get demolished by voters. 

    The United States is a representative democracy. If you don’t like it here there are plenty of countries that aren’t. I encourage you to go give them a whiff. 

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    Democrats control the house, the senate and the presidency. 

    Why don’t they ban assault weapons again? 

    Because they would get demolished by voters. 

    The United States is a representative democracy. If you don’t like it here there are plenty of countries that aren’t. I encourage you to go give them a whiff. 

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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:05 PM ET #87

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     Ya gotta tell the whole story. Hutchinson's comment was regarding the Parkland shooting & he further said...

    There are exceptions, Mr. Hutchinson said, as when a crossing guard who is specifically assigned to protect children traveling across a street allows a child to get run over while, say, the guard is being distracted by a smartphone. The crossing guard is in a “special relationship” with the children, in legal eyes.

    When an officer has a “special relationship” with people, or acts to “enhance the risk” of harm, the officer can be liable for any resulting injury under state negligence laws, Mr. Hutchinson said.

    This is likely how Judge Henning found that Mr. Peterson did have a duty to protect those inside the school and refused to dismiss the negligence lawsuit filed by Andrew Pollack, whose daughter Meadow was killed.

    The county lawsuit argued that Mr. Peterson had a “special relationship” with students and staff members at the school because he was specifically assigned to offer them protection.

     

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     Ya gotta tell the whole story. Hutchinson's comment was regarding the Parkland shooting & he further said...

    There are exceptions, Mr. Hutchinson said, as when a crossing guard who is specifically assigned to protect children traveling across a street allows a child to get run over while, say, the guard is being distracted by a smartphone. The crossing guard is in a “special relationship” with the children, in legal eyes.

    When an officer has a “special relationship” with people, or acts to “enhance the risk” of harm, the officer can be liable for any resulting injury under state negligence laws, Mr. Hutchinson said.

    This is likely how Judge Henning found that Mr. Peterson did have a duty to protect those inside the school and refused to dismiss the negligence lawsuit filed by Andrew Pollack, whose daughter Meadow was killed.

    The county lawsuit argued that Mr. Peterson had a “special relationship” with students and staff members at the school because he was specifically assigned to offer them protection.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. NRA spokesmen. Source. https://www.npr.org/2012/12/21/167824766/nra-only-thing-that-stops-a-bad-guy-with-a-gun-is-a-good-guy-with-a-gun   Texas is gun-toting central in the USA.  How did that fail here? How did the shooter die?

    Ya after he killed 18 kids  you f*ckin idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. NRA spokesmen. Source. https://www.npr.org/2012/12/21/167824766/nra-only-thing-that-stops-a-bad-guy-with-a-gun-is-a-good-guy-with-a-gun   Texas is gun-toting central in the USA.  How did that fail here? How did the shooter die?

    Ya after he killed 18 kids  you f*ckin idiot.

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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:09 PM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The United States is a representative democracy. If you don’t like it here there are plenty of countries that aren’t. I encourage you to go give them a whiff.
    I'll say the same to you about your guy losing the election by 7 million votes,and then trying to refute the election results,if you don't like the election results,I encourage you to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The United States is a representative democracy. If you don’t like it here there are plenty of countries that aren’t. I encourage you to go give them a whiff.
    I'll say the same to you about your guy losing the election by 7 million votes,and then trying to refute the election results,if you don't like the election results,I encourage you to leave.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Democrats control the house, the senate and the presidency. Why don’t they ban assault weapons again?

     

    Democrats do not CONTROL the senate.

    They have a 51-50 majority, but every educated person understands that is NOT CONTROL in the senate where a filabuster resides, thus no control.

    Idiotic statement. thumbs_down

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Democrats control the house, the senate and the presidency. Why don’t they ban assault weapons again?

     

    Democrats do not CONTROL the senate.

    They have a 51-50 majority, but every educated person understands that is NOT CONTROL in the senate where a filabuster resides, thus no control.

    Idiotic statement. thumbs_down

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:10 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Democrats control the house, the senate and the presidency. Why don’t they ban assault weapons again?
    The filibuster 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Democrats control the house, the senate and the presidency. Why don’t they ban assault weapons again?
    The filibuster 

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:11 PM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    You guys should attempt to become politicians in the US. You can run on the platform of taking guns away from law abiding citizens. Then, after you lose in a landslide, you can come back and post about it here.

    You are most often very wrong on your election predictions, especially in those predicting landslides. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    You guys should attempt to become politicians in the US. You can run on the platform of taking guns away from law abiding citizens. Then, after you lose in a landslide, you can come back and post about it here.

    You are most often very wrong on your election predictions, especially in those predicting landslides. an_light

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The United States is a representative democracy. If you don’t like it here there are plenty of countries that aren’t. I encourage you to go give them a whiff.

    I'll say the same to you about your guy losing the election by 7 million votes,and then trying to refute the election results,if you don't like the election results,I encourage you to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The United States is a representative democracy. If you don’t like it here there are plenty of countries that aren’t. I encourage you to go give them a whiff.

    I'll say the same to you about your guy losing the election by 7 million votes,and then trying to refute the election results,if you don't like the election results,I encourage you to leave.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:16 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Democrats control the house, the senate and the presidency. Why don’t they ban assault weapons again?   Democrats do not CONTROL the senate. They have a 51-50 majority, but every educated person understands that is NOT CONTROL in the senate where a filabuster resides, thus no control. Idiotic statement.

    Detox Meds is very uneducated on all things Congress. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Democrats control the house, the senate and the presidency. Why don’t they ban assault weapons again?   Democrats do not CONTROL the senate. They have a 51-50 majority, but every educated person understands that is NOT CONTROL in the senate where a filabuster resides, thus no control. Idiotic statement.

    Detox Meds is very uneducated on all things Congress. an_light

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:29 PM ET #95

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer.Universal background checks (should take weeks not days), mandatory safety features, penalties for dealers & gun owners if weapon is used by someone else for a criminal act, assault weapon and magazine ban, free mental health care for all, national gun buy backs for gas or gift cards, etc. Take some of the loopholes out of gun laws like the state being able to come to the homes of ex-cons who bought guns before they were convicted and confiscate them, and to homes of people who developed mental health issues AFTER the purchase of guns. There are more, but this would be a good start. But I have no confidence whatsoever that republicans would go along with any of these proposals.

    fair peace_5

    automatic delay of one month before purchase is complete and get ownership of a firearm ,and then only when the new owner shows proof from an accredited firearms training agency that the new  owner and anyone who will have access to that weapon has successfully completed the course

    if owner or listed family member who will have access ever uses that gun in commission of a felony mandatory minimum 15 years prison without parole over and above other crimes or a death result

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer.Universal background checks (should take weeks not days), mandatory safety features, penalties for dealers & gun owners if weapon is used by someone else for a criminal act, assault weapon and magazine ban, free mental health care for all, national gun buy backs for gas or gift cards, etc. Take some of the loopholes out of gun laws like the state being able to come to the homes of ex-cons who bought guns before they were convicted and confiscate them, and to homes of people who developed mental health issues AFTER the purchase of guns. There are more, but this would be a good start. But I have no confidence whatsoever that republicans would go along with any of these proposals.

    fair peace_5

    automatic delay of one month before purchase is complete and get ownership of a firearm ,and then only when the new owner shows proof from an accredited firearms training agency that the new  owner and anyone who will have access to that weapon has successfully completed the course

    if owner or listed family member who will have access ever uses that gun in commission of a felony mandatory minimum 15 years prison without parole over and above other crimes or a death result

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:35 PM ET #96

    Meanwhile, the POS, Abbott & Cruz will be attending the NRA Convention in Houston this weekend.

    YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP! 

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    Meanwhile, the POS, Abbott & Cruz will be attending the NRA Convention in Houston this weekend.

    YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP! 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    if owner or listed family member who will have access ever uses that gun in commission of a felony mandatory minimum 15 years prison without parole over and above other crimes or a death result
    "Common sense gun laws" sounds to me like apologizing for seeking to stop a devastating national form of insanity. I want strong gun laws like this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    if owner or listed family member who will have access ever uses that gun in commission of a felony mandatory minimum 15 years prison without parole over and above other crimes or a death result
    "Common sense gun laws" sounds to me like apologizing for seeking to stop a devastating national form of insanity. I want strong gun laws like this..

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 9:48 PM ET #98

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Meanwhile, the POS, Abbott & Cruz will be attending the NRA Convention in Houston this weekend. YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!
    Sounds like a great place for the largest anti-gun rally Houston has ever seen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Meanwhile, the POS, Abbott & Cruz will be attending the NRA Convention in Houston this weekend. YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!
    Sounds like a great place for the largest anti-gun rally Houston has ever seen...

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 10:04 PM ET #99

    And this kid killed his grandmother before going to the school.

    Unreal....

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    And this kid killed his grandmother before going to the school.

    Unreal....

     
     
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     "Does anyone in the general public really need an assault weapon? I know everyone has a right to own one but perhaps we can start there. These weapons are killing machines."

     The original definition of "assault weapon" would require it to be an automatic, ie machine gun, which an AR is not. It's semi- auto, like most handguns. Can it hold a lot of rounds? Yes, I have 30 round mags for mine.........but I also have a handgun that holds 19+1. All that being said, none of my guns have ever gotten up on their own & fired a round by itself. By themselves, they are not killing machines. There are some evil/sick people in this world. I doubt we'll ever be able to eradicate them.

     Does anyone in the general public really need a 150mph sports car?

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     "Does anyone in the general public really need an assault weapon? I know everyone has a right to own one but perhaps we can start there. These weapons are killing machines."

     The original definition of "assault weapon" would require it to be an automatic, ie machine gun, which an AR is not. It's semi- auto, like most handguns. Can it hold a lot of rounds? Yes, I have 30 round mags for mine.........but I also have a handgun that holds 19+1. All that being said, none of my guns have ever gotten up on their own & fired a round by itself. By themselves, they are not killing machines. There are some evil/sick people in this world. I doubt we'll ever be able to eradicate them.

     Does anyone in the general public really need a 150mph sports car?

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