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    MrWhatsItToYa
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:13 PM ET #26

    Shooting,not shooter.

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    Shooting,not shooter.

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:14 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: 14 kids die,and this POS is cheering to dopamine,and putting laughing emoji's in his posts. He's a MAGA troll.  There's two of them in this thread so far doing nothing other than deliberately antagonize others.

     

    Kind of like 2 others in here that can only use copy and paste. 95% of their posts are not their own thoughts. Not so much of a discussion forum, eh? I guess that's what dems do best, steal from others, use others words as their own and regurgitate crap they see else where and try to claim as their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: 14 kids die,and this POS is cheering to dopamine,and putting laughing emoji's in his posts. He's a MAGA troll.  There's two of them in this thread so far doing nothing other than deliberately antagonize others.

     

    Kind of like 2 others in here that can only use copy and paste. 95% of their posts are not their own thoughts. Not so much of a discussion forum, eh? I guess that's what dems do best, steal from others, use others words as their own and regurgitate crap they see else where and try to claim as their own.

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:16 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    When does it end (republicans) ???

    Not just republicans of course, as everybody has to do their part in all states.  Although republicans,generalling speaking, do seem to block many attempts at lessening gun violence and killings of innocent people (non gangs)

    This is all too sad to comprehend, just two weeks after Buffalo, Chicago, SanBernardino, and more

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    When does it end (republicans) ???

    Not just republicans of course, as everybody has to do their part in all states.  Although republicans,generalling speaking, do seem to block many attempts at lessening gun violence and killings of innocent people (non gangs)

    This is all too sad to comprehend, just two weeks after Buffalo, Chicago, SanBernardino, and more

     
    BigGame90
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:17 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Your the one crying cause someone antagonized you.Out of the 5 posts you already made in this thread,not even 1 f*ckin word about the shooter or the victims,just all about democrats,what a POS.

     

    *You're

    I won't comment like some others because I have 0 information about the situation. So, instead of being a fool and making assumptions like some people will, I'll wait to hear more info.

     

    OP is claiming it's the republicans fault. So I am assuming he's a dem and jumping to assumptions or strictly looking to pin this on republicans. It's like the left is salivating at these situations just to further their political agenda. After all, this is a politics forum. The first 3 posts are attacking republicans like it's strictly their fault. You see how this works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Your the one crying cause someone antagonized you.Out of the 5 posts you already made in this thread,not even 1 f*ckin word about the shooter or the victims,just all about democrats,what a POS.

     

    *You're

    I won't comment like some others because I have 0 information about the situation. So, instead of being a fool and making assumptions like some people will, I'll wait to hear more info.

     

    OP is claiming it's the republicans fault. So I am assuming he's a dem and jumping to assumptions or strictly looking to pin this on republicans. It's like the left is salivating at these situations just to further their political agenda. After all, this is a politics forum. The first 3 posts are attacking republicans like it's strictly their fault. You see how this works?

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:19 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: 14 kids die,and this POS is cheering to dopamine,and putting laughing emoji's in his posts.

     

    He's a MAGA troll.  There's two of them in this thread so far doing nothing other than deliberately antagonize others.

     

    youre right baish .    maga trolls   thumbs_down   all they do here is harrass , criticize and and antognize

    there are at least 6 other maga trolls besides the two above

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: 14 kids die,and this POS is cheering to dopamine,and putting laughing emoji's in his posts.

     

    He's a MAGA troll.  There's two of them in this thread so far doing nothing other than deliberately antagonize others.

     

    youre right baish .    maga trolls   thumbs_down   all they do here is harrass , criticize and and antognize

    there are at least 6 other maga trolls besides the two above

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:21 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: When does it end (republicans) ???

     

    Not just republicans of course, as everybody has to do their part in all states. 

    Although republicans,generalling speaking, do seem to block many attempts at lessening gun violence and killings of innocent people (non gangs) This is all too sad to comprehend, just two weeks after Buffalo, Chicago, SanBernardino, and more

    i agree        this is just horrific     my sympathies to those grieving now  from yet more gun violence

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: When does it end (republicans) ???

     

    Not just republicans of course, as everybody has to do their part in all states. 

    Although republicans,generalling speaking, do seem to block many attempts at lessening gun violence and killings of innocent people (non gangs) This is all too sad to comprehend, just two weeks after Buffalo, Chicago, SanBernardino, and more

    i agree        this is just horrific     my sympathies to those grieving now  from yet more gun violence

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:24 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

       *You're I won't comment like some others because I have 0 information about the situation. So, instead of being a fool and making assumptions like some people will, I'll wait to hear more info.
    You do have information,14 innocent kids were gunned down and died,don't you have an opinion about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

       *You're I won't comment like some others because I have 0 information about the situation. So, instead of being a fool and making assumptions like some people will, I'll wait to hear more info.
    You do have information,14 innocent kids were gunned down and died,don't you have an opinion about that?

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:27 PM ET #33

    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

    NRA spokesmen.

    Source.

    https://www.npr.org/2012/12/21/167824766/nra-only-thing-that-stops-a-bad-guy-with-a-gun-is-a-good-guy-with-a-gun

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    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

    NRA spokesmen.

    Source.

    https://www.npr.org/2012/12/21/167824766/nra-only-thing-that-stops-a-bad-guy-with-a-gun-is-a-good-guy-with-a-gun

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:28 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    OP is claiming it's the republicans fault. So I am assuming he's a dem and jumping to assumptions or strictly looking to pin this on republicans. It's like the left is salivating at these situations just to further their political agenda. After all, this is a politics forum. The first 3 posts are attacking republicans like it's strictly their fault. You see how this works?
    Well, I can tell you it's not the Democrats that are taking photo ops with their kids holding guns on those morbid Christmas cards. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    OP is claiming it's the republicans fault. So I am assuming he's a dem and jumping to assumptions or strictly looking to pin this on republicans. It's like the left is salivating at these situations just to further their political agenda. After all, this is a politics forum. The first 3 posts are attacking republicans like it's strictly their fault. You see how this works?
    Well, I can tell you it's not the Democrats that are taking photo ops with their kids holding guns on those morbid Christmas cards. 

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:32 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    When will people in this country realize we're pretty much the only country where sh*t like this happens,it ain't hard to figure out why.When any idiot can get a firearm and kill as many people as they want,

    Key difference between US and other countries is that US has more guns and weaker gun laws.  As a result, US is the mass shooting capital of the world.  More gun deaths are a predictable outcome of lack of political will to change and an under investment in prevention approaches that work in other countries.  There are many things that might reduce risk.  For examples, less racism, better parenting, good education and more job opportunities.  But the most cost effective intervention is gun control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    When will people in this country realize we're pretty much the only country where sh*t like this happens,it ain't hard to figure out why.When any idiot can get a firearm and kill as many people as they want,

    Key difference between US and other countries is that US has more guns and weaker gun laws.  As a result, US is the mass shooting capital of the world.  More gun deaths are a predictable outcome of lack of political will to change and an under investment in prevention approaches that work in other countries.  There are many things that might reduce risk.  For examples, less racism, better parenting, good education and more job opportunities.  But the most cost effective intervention is gun control.

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 6:43 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:    *You're I won't comment like some others because I have 0 information about the situation. So, instead of being a fool and making assumptions like some people will, I'll wait to hear more info. You do have information,14 innocent kids were gunned down and died,don't you have an opinion about that?

     

    I do have an opinion about it. It's horrible. I don't have an answer on how to fix the problem. You can easily say "take away the guns and that will fix it" but honestly, that mentality is fantasy land. Do you think criminals are going to volunteer to hand over their guns? If I recall, most gun incidents are caused from criminals, correct? But you won't ever talk about that or the sky rocketing crimes being committed year after year.   I have my questions about this specific situation, where did this 18 year get the gun, what were his motivations, what set him off to do this today? These situations are a lot more complex than "get rid of guns and that will fix the problems in this country". I am all for stronger background checks, and making it more difficult to obtain firearms. I've never thought someone needs an AR for protection, but at the same time, I'm not going to take away their rights to have one if it's in the laws. While guns contribute to these issues, it's also people using the weapon and there's something inherently wrong with these people. 99.9999% of legal gun owners are not committing these crimes. .0001% are (we don't know if this kid bought this gun legally, or stole it, unless the news has already broke about how he gained access). So while you may think it's the guns fault because that was the tool, I tend to think it's more of peoples fault, not dems, not republicans, but people and their surroundings and upbringing that brought them to this mental state to commit these horrendous acts.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:    *You're I won't comment like some others because I have 0 information about the situation. So, instead of being a fool and making assumptions like some people will, I'll wait to hear more info. You do have information,14 innocent kids were gunned down and died,don't you have an opinion about that?

     

    I do have an opinion about it. It's horrible. I don't have an answer on how to fix the problem. You can easily say "take away the guns and that will fix it" but honestly, that mentality is fantasy land. Do you think criminals are going to volunteer to hand over their guns? If I recall, most gun incidents are caused from criminals, correct? But you won't ever talk about that or the sky rocketing crimes being committed year after year.   I have my questions about this specific situation, where did this 18 year get the gun, what were his motivations, what set him off to do this today? These situations are a lot more complex than "get rid of guns and that will fix the problems in this country". I am all for stronger background checks, and making it more difficult to obtain firearms. I've never thought someone needs an AR for protection, but at the same time, I'm not going to take away their rights to have one if it's in the laws. While guns contribute to these issues, it's also people using the weapon and there's something inherently wrong with these people. 99.9999% of legal gun owners are not committing these crimes. .0001% are (we don't know if this kid bought this gun legally, or stole it, unless the news has already broke about how he gained access). So while you may think it's the guns fault because that was the tool, I tend to think it's more of peoples fault, not dems, not republicans, but people and their surroundings and upbringing that brought them to this mental state to commit these horrendous acts.

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. NRA spokesmen.

    National rifle association likes to promote that myth.  Actually, research found which people are most likely to stop mass shooters.  First, the shooter himself.  Secondly, police.  Third, people without a gun.   Fourth, the good guy with a gun.  Reality is different from movies.

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    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. NRA spokesmen.

    National rifle association likes to promote that myth.  Actually, research found which people are most likely to stop mass shooters.  First, the shooter himself.  Secondly, police.  Third, people without a gun.   Fourth, the good guy with a gun.  Reality is different from movies.

     
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    So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer. 

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    So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer.

    Perhaps look around in the global system. Other countries seem to be countering gun violence just fine. Maybe explore some of the gun laws in Canada to come up with some solutions. an_light

    This really does not need to be that complicated. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer.

    Perhaps look around in the global system. Other countries seem to be countering gun violence just fine. Maybe explore some of the gun laws in Canada to come up with some solutions. an_light

    This really does not need to be that complicated. 

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 7:16 PM ET #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: When does it end (republicans) ??? Not just republicans of course, as everybody has to do their part in all states.  Although republicans,generalling speaking, do seem to block many attempts at lessening gun violence and killings of innocent people (non gangs) This is all too sad to comprehend, just two weeks after Buffalo, Chicago, SanBernardino, and more

     

    CNN live reporting has just alerted viewers that the death toll is now 18

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: When does it end (republicans) ??? Not just republicans of course, as everybody has to do their part in all states.  Although republicans,generalling speaking, do seem to block many attempts at lessening gun violence and killings of innocent people (non gangs) This is all too sad to comprehend, just two weeks after Buffalo, Chicago, SanBernardino, and more

     

    CNN live reporting has just alerted viewers that the death toll is now 18

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer. Perhaps look around in the global system. Other countries seem to be countering gun violence just fine. Maybe explore some of the gun laws in Canada to come up with some solutions.  This really does not need to be that complicated.

     

    It's possible to look at that, but Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. Maybe there is some element of their gun restrictions that we could use. Some of those countries have mass stabbings, but for some reason knifes are vilified like guns. Ultimately it comes down to holding people accountable. I feel if punishments fit the crimes, people might be more hesitant to commit them. These shooters sometimes want to die. In inner cities they have very little value for life and it's seen as street credit to go to prison. If you murder someone you got put to death, there might be less murder. But you have too many bleeding hearts out there. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer. Perhaps look around in the global system. Other countries seem to be countering gun violence just fine. Maybe explore some of the gun laws in Canada to come up with some solutions.  This really does not need to be that complicated.

     

    It's possible to look at that, but Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. Maybe there is some element of their gun restrictions that we could use. Some of those countries have mass stabbings, but for some reason knifes are vilified like guns. Ultimately it comes down to holding people accountable. I feel if punishments fit the crimes, people might be more hesitant to commit them. These shooters sometimes want to die. In inner cities they have very little value for life and it's seen as street credit to go to prison. If you murder someone you got put to death, there might be less murder. But you have too many bleeding hearts out there. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:    *You're I won't comment like some others because I have 0 information about the situation. So, instead of being a fool and making assumptions like some people will, I'll wait to hear more info. You do have information,14 innocent kids were gunned down and died,don't you have an opinion about that?   I do have an opinion about it. It's horrible. I don't have an answer on how to fix the problem. You can easily say "take away the guns and that will fix it" but honestly, that mentality is fantasy land. Do you think criminals are going to volunteer to hand over their guns? If I recall, most gun incidents are caused from criminals, correct? But you won't ever talk about that or the sky rocketing crimes being committed year after year.   I have my questions about this specific situation, where did this 18 year get the gun, what were his motivations, what set him off to do this today? These situations are a lot more complex than "get rid of guns and that will fix the problems in this country". I am all for stronger background checks, and making it more difficult to obtain firearms. I've never thought someone needs an AR for protection, but at the same time, I'm not going to take away their rights to have one if it's in the laws. While guns contribute to these issues, it's also people using the weapon and there's something inherently wrong with these people. 99.9999% of legal gun owners are not committing these crimes. .0001% are (we don't know if this kid bought this gun legally, or stole it, unless the news has already broke about how he gained access). So while you may think it's the guns fault because that was the tool, I tend to think it's more of peoples fault, not dems, not republicans, but people and their surroundings and upbringing that brought them to this mental state to commit these horrendous acts.
    I'm not saying I do have the answer on how to fix it either.I know trying to take away guns,isn't gonna be without problems or that criminals will turn over their weapons.But to keep adding more weapons into the mix is definitely not the answer either.Who cares what his motivation was,it doesn't really matter why he thought he would kill 14 kids.These situations might be more complex than "just get rid of guns",but that is the main component about school shootings and other shootings,so that would be the 1st thing to look into,don't you think?Right you have to change the law to make it illegal to have an AR,if you let the law stand of course these idiots bent on killing as many as they can,will keep doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:    *You're I won't comment like some others because I have 0 information about the situation. So, instead of being a fool and making assumptions like some people will, I'll wait to hear more info. You do have information,14 innocent kids were gunned down and died,don't you have an opinion about that?   I do have an opinion about it. It's horrible. I don't have an answer on how to fix the problem. You can easily say "take away the guns and that will fix it" but honestly, that mentality is fantasy land. Do you think criminals are going to volunteer to hand over their guns? If I recall, most gun incidents are caused from criminals, correct? But you won't ever talk about that or the sky rocketing crimes being committed year after year.   I have my questions about this specific situation, where did this 18 year get the gun, what were his motivations, what set him off to do this today? These situations are a lot more complex than "get rid of guns and that will fix the problems in this country". I am all for stronger background checks, and making it more difficult to obtain firearms. I've never thought someone needs an AR for protection, but at the same time, I'm not going to take away their rights to have one if it's in the laws. While guns contribute to these issues, it's also people using the weapon and there's something inherently wrong with these people. 99.9999% of legal gun owners are not committing these crimes. .0001% are (we don't know if this kid bought this gun legally, or stole it, unless the news has already broke about how he gained access). So while you may think it's the guns fault because that was the tool, I tend to think it's more of peoples fault, not dems, not republicans, but people and their surroundings and upbringing that brought them to this mental state to commit these horrendous acts.
    I'm not saying I do have the answer on how to fix it either.I know trying to take away guns,isn't gonna be without problems or that criminals will turn over their weapons.But to keep adding more weapons into the mix is definitely not the answer either.Who cares what his motivation was,it doesn't really matter why he thought he would kill 14 kids.These situations might be more complex than "just get rid of guns",but that is the main component about school shootings and other shootings,so that would be the 1st thing to look into,don't you think?Right you have to change the law to make it illegal to have an AR,if you let the law stand of course these idiots bent on killing as many as they can,will keep doing it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: When does it end (republicans) ??? Not just republicans of course, as everybody has to do their part in all states.  Although republicans,generalling speaking, do seem to block many attempts at lessening gun violence and killings of innocent people (non gangs) This is all too sad to comprehend, just two weeks after Buffalo, Chicago, SanBernardino, and more   CNN live reporting has just alerted viewers that the death toll is now 18

     

    Yes.  18 children murdered.  Very sad.   Plus 2 adults.   Total is 20......... so far.

     

    FBI reporting this is the 30th shooting at a K-12 school just this year.

    212 mass shootings so far in 2022 in only 144 days.

    Disgraceful.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: When does it end (republicans) ??? Not just republicans of course, as everybody has to do their part in all states.  Although republicans,generalling speaking, do seem to block many attempts at lessening gun violence and killings of innocent people (non gangs) This is all too sad to comprehend, just two weeks after Buffalo, Chicago, SanBernardino, and more   CNN live reporting has just alerted viewers that the death toll is now 18

     

    Yes.  18 children murdered.  Very sad.   Plus 2 adults.   Total is 20......... so far.

     

    FBI reporting this is the 30th shooting at a K-12 school just this year.

    212 mass shootings so far in 2022 in only 144 days.

    Disgraceful.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:    *You're I won't comment like some others because I have 0 information about the situation. So, instead of being a fool and making assumptions like some people will, I'll wait to hear more info. You do have information,14 innocent kids were gunned down and died,don't you have an opinion about that?   I do have an opinion about it. It's horrible. I don't have an answer on how to fix the problem. You can easily say "take away the guns and that will fix it" but honestly, that mentality is fantasy land. Do you think criminals are going to volunteer to hand over their guns? If I recall, most gun incidents are caused from criminals, correct? But you won't ever talk about that or the sky rocketing crimes being committed year after year.   I have my questions about this specific situation, where did this 18 year get the gun, what were his motivations, what set him off to do this today? These situations are a lot more complex than "get rid of guns and that will fix the problems in this country". I am all for stronger background checks, and making it more difficult to obtain firearms. I've never thought someone needs an AR for protection, but at the same time, I'm not going to take away their rights to have one if it's in the laws. While guns contribute to these issues, it's also people using the weapon and there's something inherently wrong with these people. 99.9999% of legal gun owners are not committing these crimes. .0001% are (we don't know if this kid bought this gun legally, or stole it, unless the news has already broke about how he gained access). So while you may think it's the guns fault because that was the tool, I tend to think it's more of peoples fault, not dems, not republicans, but people and their surroundings and upbringing that brought them to this mental state to commit these horrendous acts.I'm not saying I do have the answer on how to fix it either.I know trying to take away guns,isn't gonna be without problems or that criminals will turn over their weapons.But to keep adding more weapons into the mix is definitely not the answer either.Who cares what his motivation was,it doesn't really matter why he thought he would kill 14 kids.These situations might be more complex than "just get rid of guns",but that is the main component about school shootings and other shootings,so that would be the 1st thing to look into,don't you think?Right you have to change the law to make it illegal to have an AR,if you let the law stand of course these idiots bent on killing as many as they can,will keep doing it.

     

    maybe theanswer is lessidiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:    *You're I won't comment like some others because I have 0 information about the situation. So, instead of being a fool and making assumptions like some people will, I'll wait to hear more info. You do have information,14 innocent kids were gunned down and died,don't you have an opinion about that?   I do have an opinion about it. It's horrible. I don't have an answer on how to fix the problem. You can easily say "take away the guns and that will fix it" but honestly, that mentality is fantasy land. Do you think criminals are going to volunteer to hand over their guns? If I recall, most gun incidents are caused from criminals, correct? But you won't ever talk about that or the sky rocketing crimes being committed year after year.   I have my questions about this specific situation, where did this 18 year get the gun, what were his motivations, what set him off to do this today? These situations are a lot more complex than "get rid of guns and that will fix the problems in this country". I am all for stronger background checks, and making it more difficult to obtain firearms. I've never thought someone needs an AR for protection, but at the same time, I'm not going to take away their rights to have one if it's in the laws. While guns contribute to these issues, it's also people using the weapon and there's something inherently wrong with these people. 99.9999% of legal gun owners are not committing these crimes. .0001% are (we don't know if this kid bought this gun legally, or stole it, unless the news has already broke about how he gained access). So while you may think it's the guns fault because that was the tool, I tend to think it's more of peoples fault, not dems, not republicans, but people and their surroundings and upbringing that brought them to this mental state to commit these horrendous acts.I'm not saying I do have the answer on how to fix it either.I know trying to take away guns,isn't gonna be without problems or that criminals will turn over their weapons.But to keep adding more weapons into the mix is definitely not the answer either.Who cares what his motivation was,it doesn't really matter why he thought he would kill 14 kids.These situations might be more complex than "just get rid of guns",but that is the main component about school shootings and other shootings,so that would be the 1st thing to look into,don't you think?Right you have to change the law to make it illegal to have an AR,if you let the law stand of course these idiots bent on killing as many as they can,will keep doing it.

     

    maybe theanswer is lessidiots

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 7:37 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer. Perhaps look around in the global system. Other countries seem to be countering gun violence just fine. Maybe explore some of the gun laws in Canada to come up with some solutions.  This really does not need to be that complicated. Maybe there is some element of their gun restrictions that we could use. Some of those countries have mass stabbings, but for some reason knifes are vilified like guns. Ultimately it comes down to holding people accountable. I feel if punishments fit the crimes, people might be more hesitant to commit them. These shooters sometimes want to die.
    Hold people accountable,how you plan on holding a dead guy accountable for killing 14 kids?You said it yourself,"sometimes these shooters want to die",unfortunately they take as many as they can with them,before they die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer. Perhaps look around in the global system. Other countries seem to be countering gun violence just fine. Maybe explore some of the gun laws in Canada to come up with some solutions.  This really does not need to be that complicated. Maybe there is some element of their gun restrictions that we could use. Some of those countries have mass stabbings, but for some reason knifes are vilified like guns. Ultimately it comes down to holding people accountable. I feel if punishments fit the crimes, people might be more hesitant to commit them. These shooters sometimes want to die.
    Hold people accountable,how you plan on holding a dead guy accountable for killing 14 kids?You said it yourself,"sometimes these shooters want to die",unfortunately they take as many as they can with them,before they die.

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2022 - 7:44 PM ET #46

    Unfortunately you can't outlaw idiots,there will always be an ample supply of those.But you can try and not give an idiot who wants to die,a means to kill as many people or kids as they want,before they go.

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    Unfortunately you can't outlaw idiots,there will always be an ample supply of those.But you can try and not give an idiot who wants to die,a means to kill as many people or kids as they want,before they go.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer. Perhaps look around in the global system. Other countries seem to be countering gun violence just fine. Maybe explore some of the gun laws in Canada to come up with some solutions.  This really does not need to be that complicated. Maybe there is some element of their gun restrictions that we could use. Some of those countries have mass stabbings, but for some reason knifes are vilified like guns. Ultimately it comes down to holding people accountable. I feel if punishments fit the crimes, people might be more hesitant to commit them. These shooters sometimes want to die.Hold people accountable,how you plan on holding a dead guy accountable for killing 14 kids?You said it yourself,"sometimes these shooters want to die",unfortunately they take as many as they can with them,before they die.

     

    Well I obviously with the last sentence understand someone dead can't be held accountable. I was speaking more obviously about areas like Chicago as I mentioned above have usually double digit homicides a week from guns, yet the only guns Democrats want to discuss is when one of these looneys shoot people. I am sure more than a few were crossing their fingers this guy was white. Until we get serious about all guns/crime and stop excusing it, we will just keep pulling at the opposite ends of the same rope. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer. Perhaps look around in the global system. Other countries seem to be countering gun violence just fine. Maybe explore some of the gun laws in Canada to come up with some solutions.  This really does not need to be that complicated. Maybe there is some element of their gun restrictions that we could use. Some of those countries have mass stabbings, but for some reason knifes are vilified like guns. Ultimately it comes down to holding people accountable. I feel if punishments fit the crimes, people might be more hesitant to commit them. These shooters sometimes want to die.Hold people accountable,how you plan on holding a dead guy accountable for killing 14 kids?You said it yourself,"sometimes these shooters want to die",unfortunately they take as many as they can with them,before they die.

     

    Well I obviously with the last sentence understand someone dead can't be held accountable. I was speaking more obviously about areas like Chicago as I mentioned above have usually double digit homicides a week from guns, yet the only guns Democrats want to discuss is when one of these looneys shoot people. I am sure more than a few were crossing their fingers this guy was white. Until we get serious about all guns/crime and stop excusing it, we will just keep pulling at the opposite ends of the same rope. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer. Perhaps look around in the global system. Other countries seem to be countering gun violence just fine. Maybe explore some of the gun laws in Canada to come up with some solutions.  This really does not need to be that complicated.

     

    Absolutely right, Deezy. peace_5

     

    The #1 rated country in the world has very strict gun laws - NATION WIDE - and only 1/7 th the gun violence per capita!  They are OBVIOUSLY doing something far better than we are.  Not perfect, but certainly waaaaaaaaaayyyy better!   Whereas in the US it is virtually irrelevant how strict a city or state makes its own gun laws since the criminal element simply brings in the weapons and/or killers from out of state.  This is not the case in Canada. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75: So what's the answer Democrats, since Republicans are so evil. Tell us the answer. Perhaps look around in the global system. Other countries seem to be countering gun violence just fine. Maybe explore some of the gun laws in Canada to come up with some solutions.  This really does not need to be that complicated.

     

    Absolutely right, Deezy. peace_5

     

    The #1 rated country in the world has very strict gun laws - NATION WIDE - and only 1/7 th the gun violence per capita!  They are OBVIOUSLY doing something far better than we are.  Not perfect, but certainly waaaaaaaaaayyyy better!   Whereas in the US it is virtually irrelevant how strict a city or state makes its own gun laws since the criminal element simply brings in the weapons and/or killers from out of state.  This is not the case in Canada. 

     
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    Who gives a f*ck what color the guy is,or if he is repub or democrat,he shot down and killed 14 kids.

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    Who gives a f*ck what color the guy is,or if he is repub or democrat,he shot down and killed 14 kids.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Who gives a f*ck what color the guy is,or if he is repub or democrat,he shot down and killed 14 kids.

    i agree

     

    the count is now 18 kids murdered  and 2 adults

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    Who gives a f*ck what color the guy is,or if he is repub or democrat,he shot down and killed 14 kids.

    i agree

     

    the count is now 18 kids murdered  and 2 adults

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