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    Proof the NBL is rigged?

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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2016 - 1:34 AM ET #1

    Did anyone watch that Breakers/United game? Especially the last 30 seconds? 
    I tell you what.
    The game total was 171.5

    7 seconds left and United were up by 24 points. The Breakers had the ball. Stockton for the Breakers had the ball. He wasnt doing anything, and Tomlinson INTENTIONALLY fouled him.
    Why?
    Then, this is where it get really bad. Stockton makes the first free throw, then watch Corey Webster walk up to i believe Penney and whisper something in his ear.
    After Stockton makes the 2nd free throw, there is 5 seconds left, down by 22 points and they intentionally foul him??????

    Now after Tomlinson makes the 2nd FT,  and the total went over, the breakers looked disinterested in jacking up a final shot.

    This follows on from last Mondays game, where the 36ers were up by ONLY 6,with 24 seconds left and the Kings dont foul...the total stays under by .5.

    This league is rife with fixing...RIFE.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Did anyone watch that Breakers/United game? Especially the last 30 seconds? 
    I tell you what.
    The game total was 171.5

    7 seconds left and United were up by 24 points. The Breakers had the ball. Stockton for the Breakers had the ball. He wasnt doing anything, and Tomlinson INTENTIONALLY fouled him.
    Why?
    Then, this is where it get really bad. Stockton makes the first free throw, then watch Corey Webster walk up to i believe Penney and whisper something in his ear.
    After Stockton makes the 2nd free throw, there is 5 seconds left, down by 22 points and they intentionally foul him??????

    Now after Tomlinson makes the 2nd FT,  and the total went over, the breakers looked disinterested in jacking up a final shot.

    This follows on from last Mondays game, where the 36ers were up by ONLY 6,with 24 seconds left and the Kings dont foul...the total stays under by .5.

    This league is rife with fixing...RIFE.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2016 - 1:15 AM ET #2

    I agree there are some pretty suss looking finishes to some games.. certainly makes you wonder when teams almost appear to be chasing down a total when the result of the match is assured.. 

    as I've mentioned a couple of times here, there have been some very "interesting" patterns happen in a handful of WNBL games this season and last season where a team which is a smallish underdog (< +5) is the subject of a serious betting plunge in the final hour or so before the game, AFTER it is announced that one of their key players is ruled out through injury.. latest one was last Saturday and it was the first time the plunge hasn't won.. 

    There were some absolute rippers last year

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    I agree there are some pretty suss looking finishes to some games.. certainly makes you wonder when teams almost appear to be chasing down a total when the result of the match is assured.. 

    as I've mentioned a couple of times here, there have been some very "interesting" patterns happen in a handful of WNBL games this season and last season where a team which is a smallish underdog (< +5) is the subject of a serious betting plunge in the final hour or so before the game, AFTER it is announced that one of their key players is ruled out through injury.. latest one was last Saturday and it was the first time the plunge hasn't won.. 

    There were some absolute rippers last year

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2016 - 2:19 AM ET #3

    Good info. I was going to try a total or two but knowing it even MIGHT be pre ordained welll..., there are plenty of other sports to choose from
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    Good info. I was going to try a total or two but knowing it even MIGHT be pre ordained welll..., there are plenty of other sports to choose from
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2016 - 11:46 PM ET #4

    Wouldn't surprise me if Webster was involved with something sinister. Shady character from what I have heard.
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    Wouldn't surprise me if Webster was involved with something sinister. Shady character from what I have heard.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:34 AM ET #5

    I watched the replay of this game the other night because i saw this Rostos and I will admit, both teams applying pressure on each other with less than 1 minute to go and NZ down by 20 was very strange. Wouldn't surprise me if there was something behind the scenes going on in the NBL. Like Jive Turkey said, there has been some crazy things happening in the WNBL as well over the past 18 months which he has pointed out. 
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    I watched the replay of this game the other night because i saw this Rostos and I will admit, both teams applying pressure on each other with less than 1 minute to go and NZ down by 20 was very strange. Wouldn't surprise me if there was something behind the scenes going on in the NBL. Like Jive Turkey said, there has been some crazy things happening in the WNBL as well over the past 18 months which he has pointed out. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 3:56 AM ET #6

    The NBL has an aggregate points system...for and against effectively.

    So if teams were tied on points by seasons end, it is the differential that decides who goes through.

    However this is absolutely no reason as to what happened in that game.

    The thing is, if this was the last season of the game and the Breakers were down by 2 or 4 points in the aggregate then you can understand intentionally fouling here.

    However, this was the 2nd game of the season between these 2 teams.

    I can understand if in this game a player was trying to blow past another and take it to the rim to try and score and was fouled. No problem as teams are trying to reduce the aggregate on them regardless of the un game score. However, what is the reason for INTENTIONALLY fouling when the opposition player is just dribbling the ball out?

    Furthermore, why was Tomlinson who plays for United up by 24 points and way in front of the aggregate intentionally fouling Stockton who was basically just dribbling the ball out and not threatening to score?

    What was Webster doing whispering in Penneys ear for with 5 seconds left?

    You are down by 24, why are you intentionally fouling there? 

    That game was 100% crooked. 

    Probably Webster trying to pay his fine he copped for bashing someone at the pub during the week.
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    The NBL has an aggregate points system...for and against effectively.

    So if teams were tied on points by seasons end, it is the differential that decides who goes through.

    However this is absolutely no reason as to what happened in that game.

    The thing is, if this was the last season of the game and the Breakers were down by 2 or 4 points in the aggregate then you can understand intentionally fouling here.

    However, this was the 2nd game of the season between these 2 teams.

    I can understand if in this game a player was trying to blow past another and take it to the rim to try and score and was fouled. No problem as teams are trying to reduce the aggregate on them regardless of the un game score. However, what is the reason for INTENTIONALLY fouling when the opposition player is just dribbling the ball out?

    Furthermore, why was Tomlinson who plays for United up by 24 points and way in front of the aggregate intentionally fouling Stockton who was basically just dribbling the ball out and not threatening to score?

    What was Webster doing whispering in Penneys ear for with 5 seconds left?

    You are down by 24, why are you intentionally fouling there? 

    That game was 100% crooked. 

    Probably Webster trying to pay his fine he copped for bashing someone at the pub during the week.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 5:27 AM ET #7

    And now Cairns down by 8 with 30 seconds left and dont foul.

    That Melbourne/Breakers game last week was tampered with...100% guaranteed
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    And now Cairns down by 8 with 30 seconds left and dont foul.

    That Melbourne/Breakers game last week was tampered with...100% guaranteed
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 5:29 AM ET #8

    Did it stay under as a result?
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    Did it stay under as a result?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2016 - 5:28 AM ET #9

    tonight's Kings vs 36ers game again proof's that NBL is rigged.

    Powell and the ref were on the 36ers
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    tonight's Kings vs 36ers game again proof's that NBL is rigged.

    Powell and the ref were on the 36ers
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2016 - 5:41 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by NotASingleDoubt:

    tonight's Kings vs 36ers game again proof's that NBL is rigged.

    Powell and the ref were on the 36ers

    Lol i've lost almost every cent i have i don't know whether to laugh or be angry. cannot believe what Powell did

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotASingleDoubt:

    tonight's Kings vs 36ers game again proof's that NBL is rigged.

    Powell and the ref were on the 36ers

    Lol i've lost almost every cent i have i don't know whether to laugh or be angry. cannot believe what Powell did

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2016 - 5:44 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by PhatChineseDude:

    Lol i've lost almost every cent i have i don't know whether to laugh or be angry. cannot believe what Powell did


    sorry to hear that..and so close to Xmas.

    I lost $1000 too.

    I had Kings -1.5 and under 172.5 (at half time bet) - $1000 @$3.50 = $3500

    it was safe for most of 2nd half,,, till Powell took over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatChineseDude:

    Lol i've lost almost every cent i have i don't know whether to laugh or be angry. cannot believe what Powell did


    sorry to hear that..and so close to Xmas.

    I lost $1000 too.

    I had Kings -1.5 and under 172.5 (at half time bet) - $1000 @$3.50 = $3500

    it was safe for most of 2nd half,,, till Powell took over.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2016 - 5:49 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by PhatChineseDude:

    Lol i've lost almost every cent i have i don't know whether to laugh or be angry. cannot believe what Powell did


    Remember..tomorrow is another day...sometimes garbage happens.

    Just need to clear your head and look at the next game

    What's lost is lost...

    I loss $1000... and will win back $1000 the next few days..

    Just need to ride it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatChineseDude:

    Lol i've lost almost every cent i have i don't know whether to laugh or be angry. cannot believe what Powell did


    Remember..tomorrow is another day...sometimes garbage happens.

    Just need to clear your head and look at the next game

    What's lost is lost...

    I loss $1000... and will win back $1000 the next few days..

    Just need to ride it out.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2016 - 5:59 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by NotASingleDoubt:


    Remember..tomorrow is another day...sometimes garbage happens.

    Just need to clear your head and look at the next game

    What's lost is lost...

    I loss $1000... and will win back $1000 the next few days..

    Just need to ride it out.

    HAHAHA

    SO THATS WHY YOU HATE ME FOR MY WINNINGS

    YOU LOST $10 AND CRYING FIX

    AMAZING!


    OBVIOUSLY HAS NO IDEA HOW TO CAP GAMES SMH
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotASingleDoubt:


    Remember..tomorrow is another day...sometimes garbage happens.

    Just need to clear your head and look at the next game

    What's lost is lost...

    I loss $1000... and will win back $1000 the next few days..

    Just need to ride it out.

    HAHAHA

    SO THATS WHY YOU HATE ME FOR MY WINNINGS

    YOU LOST $10 AND CRYING FIX

    AMAZING!


    OBVIOUSLY HAS NO IDEA HOW TO CAP GAMES SMH
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2016 - 6:02 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by NotASingleDoubt:


    Remember..tomorrow is another day...sometimes garbage happens.

    Just need to clear your head and look at the next game

    What's lost is lost...

    I loss $1000... and will win back $1000 the next few days..

    Just need to ride it out.

     

    lol thanks bro. I replied before but the stupid thing said i can only post 1 message per minute. Good luck getting it back, hope you win it all back and then some tommorow

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotASingleDoubt:


    Remember..tomorrow is another day...sometimes garbage happens.

    Just need to clear your head and look at the next game

    What's lost is lost...

    I loss $1000... and will win back $1000 the next few days..

    Just need to ride it out.

     

    lol thanks bro. I replied before but the stupid thing said i can only post 1 message per minute. Good luck getting it back, hope you win it all back and then some tommorow

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2016 - 6:06 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by PhatChineseDude:

     

    lol thanks bro. I replied before but the stupid thing said i can only post 1 message per minute. Good luck getting it back, hope you win it all back and then some tommorow



    no worries bro. You are not alone.. we all have experience huge and hard breaking losses. If you want to make money in the long run, you need to manage your winnings and don't chase loses.

    I know, it's easy said then done. I am in the same boat.

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatChineseDude:

     

    lol thanks bro. I replied before but the stupid thing said i can only post 1 message per minute. Good luck getting it back, hope you win it all back and then some tommorow



    no worries bro. You are not alone.. we all have experience huge and hard breaking losses. If you want to make money in the long run, you need to manage your winnings and don't chase loses.

    I know, it's easy said then done. I am in the same boat.

    Good luck.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2016 - 1:53 AM ET #16

    What did Powell do?
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    What did Powell do?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2016 - 9:01 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    What did Powell do?

    Sydney was up by 1 with 8 sec to go... Adel miss and Powell grab the rebound. instead of waiting to be fouled,... he threw the ball away and gifted Adel another chance. He then blatanly fouls Johnson, so that Johson gets 2 FT...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    What did Powell do?

    Sydney was up by 1 with 8 sec to go... Adel miss and Powell grab the rebound. instead of waiting to be fouled,... he threw the ball away and gifted Adel another chance. He then blatanly fouls Johnson, so that Johson gets 2 FT...
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2016 - 10:06 PM ET #18

    I saw that - it was odd but could conceivably be down to an in-the-moment play instead of playing the clock

    If we or they were advised to rig it then presumably the message would be make it low profile. Couldn't he just miss a few shots instead?
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    I saw that - it was odd but could conceivably be down to an in-the-moment play instead of playing the clock

    If we or they were advised to rig it then presumably the message would be make it low profile. Couldn't he just miss a few shots instead?
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