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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 9:23 PM ET #51

    Don’t fall for it in the cardinals game the come back is cap they Just can’t reveal the outcome until the other games start 

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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 9:29 PM ET #52

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     I can tell you the score of every MLB game tomorrow before it starts, if your interested.

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     I can tell you the score of every MLB game tomorrow before it starts, if your interested.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 9:34 PM ET #53

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     Bruv, I feel what youre putting down and Ive been tryna tell these fools for years that its all just a mirage....they bait and bait and bait ya to throw down and then YOINK that shiz right out from under your nose. You can PM me if you wanna chat more about it cause I'd love to hear what you have to say ( Just click the orange dialogue box next to my username in the thread reply)

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     Bruv, I feel what youre putting down and Ive been tryna tell these fools for years that its all just a mirage....they bait and bait and bait ya to throw down and then YOINK that shiz right out from under your nose. You can PM me if you wanna chat more about it cause I'd love to hear what you have to say ( Just click the orange dialogue box next to my username in the thread reply)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 9:38 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by El_Jefe88:

    @TheGuru448  Bruv, I feel what youre putting down andthat its all just a mirage....they bait and bait and bait ya to throw down and then YOINK that shiz right out from under your nose. You can PM me if you wanna chat more about it cause I'd love to hear what you have to say ( Just click the orange dialogue box next to my username in the thread reply)
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    @TheGuru448  Bruv, I feel what youre putting down andthat its all just a mirage....they bait and bait and bait ya to throw down and then YOINK that shiz right out from under your nose. You can PM me if you wanna chat more about it cause I'd love to hear what you have to say ( Just click the orange dialogue box next to my username in the thread reply)
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 9:45 PM ET #55

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     Exactly this shit all smoke and mirrors ?? they can move shit around but they can’t move too much around they only need one game to be under they control in order to win so they always know the game ppl can’t resist and they go from there straight up I’m a break it down gang u ain’t never gonna be about to look at it the same  

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     Exactly this shit all smoke and mirrors ?? they can move shit around but they can’t move too much around they only need one game to be under they control in order to win so they always know the game ppl can’t resist and they go from there straight up I’m a break it down gang u ain’t never gonna be about to look at it the same  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 9:53 PM ET #56

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     The funniest thing is that the "industry" has THOUSANDS of shills and talking heads on their payrolls. Any time I mention how baseball is NOWHERE near the same game as it was when I watched it growing up, and that there is CLEARLY something sketchy going on INCREDIBLY often (Ive been watching it for almost 40 years now, I know fuckery when I see it) There are ATLEAST 5 industry shills that come out of the woodwork, hand waving it all away and making excuses for why whatever the outcome, it was legit. Wanna know why? Because if the public REALLY knew what was going on, it would completely DESTROY the entire industry. Once people lose faith in the integrity of the game, it could take DECADES to recover from that, IF at all. So, NO WONDER these cheap industry person come out of the woodwork to defend the position that the game is being played completely above board! They're all just a bunch of rats, swindlers, and snake oil salesman....scum of the earth. 

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     The funniest thing is that the "industry" has THOUSANDS of shills and talking heads on their payrolls. Any time I mention how baseball is NOWHERE near the same game as it was when I watched it growing up, and that there is CLEARLY something sketchy going on INCREDIBLY often (Ive been watching it for almost 40 years now, I know fuckery when I see it) There are ATLEAST 5 industry shills that come out of the woodwork, hand waving it all away and making excuses for why whatever the outcome, it was legit. Wanna know why? Because if the public REALLY knew what was going on, it would completely DESTROY the entire industry. Once people lose faith in the integrity of the game, it could take DECADES to recover from that, IF at all. So, NO WONDER these cheap industry person come out of the woodwork to defend the position that the game is being played completely above board! They're all just a bunch of rats, swindlers, and snake oil salesman....scum of the earth. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 9:55 PM ET #57

    sent a friend request   @TheGuru448  i need some knowledge an_wink  been saying it for years even bet  theres a method to the maddness peace_5

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    sent a friend request   @TheGuru448  i need some knowledge an_wink  been saying it for years even bet  theres a method to the maddness peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 9:57 PM ET #58

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     been so long i forgot how to tag you  i sent a friend request cant send u a message 

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     been so long i forgot how to tag you  i sent a friend request cant send u a message 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:03 PM ET #59

    In MLB, analytics + pathetically diluted talent gives you these results. No “fixing” is needed…..The “integrity” of the game has already been destroyed by banning the shift, using juiced balls, ghost runners, bigger bases….and on and on and on. This is nowhere near being MLB. The only reason for interest in this sport is because it’s the only game in town at this time of the year.

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    In MLB, analytics + pathetically diluted talent gives you these results. No “fixing” is needed…..The “integrity” of the game has already been destroyed by banning the shift, using juiced balls, ghost runners, bigger bases….and on and on and on. This is nowhere near being MLB. The only reason for interest in this sport is because it’s the only game in town at this time of the year.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:18 PM ET #60

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     You see right thru the glass house ! Again think about the catch rule in the NFL how or how often you see the Book advertising right in ya face in a game or a college player doesn’t see it all over campus ! The pandemic was the end of the prohibition era of marijuana and sports betting the two most lucrative industries on our planet that don’t involve oil ???? but get my drift all these professional leagues realized how much money they was missing out on with there own product and how much the bookies made and they sold them the tv deal sports in exchange the books get more business than ever it was a win win but now think about all the parity your seeing in every league nobody really wins like they should any more talent is neutralized by the refs to protect the outcome needed to profit the most why they kicked the ref out back then to pretend there’s integrity so u believe the bet ain’t rigged think of it as rhe carnival every once in awhile they let a mf win a big stuffed animal to make the rest walkin up think they gonna have the same luck but the games are fixed the bottles glued together the rim got cooking spray glazed on it so the shots don’t fall this is more on the line than any of the fair games and the fair cheating I can’t say Vegas is cheating because it’s there game but we clearly ain’t gettin a fair deal and I say we fight the Fuck back !   

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     You see right thru the glass house ! Again think about the catch rule in the NFL how or how often you see the Book advertising right in ya face in a game or a college player doesn’t see it all over campus ! The pandemic was the end of the prohibition era of marijuana and sports betting the two most lucrative industries on our planet that don’t involve oil ???? but get my drift all these professional leagues realized how much money they was missing out on with there own product and how much the bookies made and they sold them the tv deal sports in exchange the books get more business than ever it was a win win but now think about all the parity your seeing in every league nobody really wins like they should any more talent is neutralized by the refs to protect the outcome needed to profit the most why they kicked the ref out back then to pretend there’s integrity so u believe the bet ain’t rigged think of it as rhe carnival every once in awhile they let a mf win a big stuffed animal to make the rest walkin up think they gonna have the same luck but the games are fixed the bottles glued together the rim got cooking spray glazed on it so the shots don’t fall this is more on the line than any of the fair games and the fair cheating I can’t say Vegas is cheating because it’s there game but we clearly ain’t gettin a fair deal and I say we fight the Fuck back !   

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:23 PM ET #61

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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:24 PM ET #62

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     Bet I’m a look out for it I checked I ain’t see it but message me we a chop it up gotta make sure Vegas ain’t seein the formula in the open but I ain’t lookin for no money ain’t no catch none of that it makes me feel good to know somebody else making money off these sick mf and they got plenty of money 

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     Bet I’m a look out for it I checked I ain’t see it but message me we a chop it up gotta make sure Vegas ain’t seein the formula in the open but I ain’t lookin for no money ain’t no catch none of that it makes me feel good to know somebody else making money off these sick mf and they got plenty of money 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:30 PM ET #63

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    The only advantage needed is the vig, juice, take, rake or what ever you wish to call it. They have a 10% advantage and could give a crap who wins or loses as very few can beat those odds or interest you have to pay to play the game. Here is where the game really changed. These online sportsbooks make the juice 15-20% and have live bets to make it even more difficult to beat the game. This allows them to give these bonuses to help you think they are helping, but they are doing nothing more then giving you some of there high interest back you are paying them. Look at the crazy spreads on Live in-game plays as it is insane. Fav -400 Dog +280. Where is the fairness in that?

     

    So say its rigged, fixed or anything you want, but that is simply not true when you have the odds stacked against you no matter the outcome.

     

    I always say if Pinnacle Sports with reduced juice comes to the US, its game over for most of the current sportsbooks scams.

     

     

     

     

     

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    The only advantage needed is the vig, juice, take, rake or what ever you wish to call it. They have a 10% advantage and could give a crap who wins or loses as very few can beat those odds or interest you have to pay to play the game. Here is where the game really changed. These online sportsbooks make the juice 15-20% and have live bets to make it even more difficult to beat the game. This allows them to give these bonuses to help you think they are helping, but they are doing nothing more then giving you some of there high interest back you are paying them. Look at the crazy spreads on Live in-game plays as it is insane. Fav -400 Dog +280. Where is the fairness in that?

     

    So say its rigged, fixed or anything you want, but that is simply not true when you have the odds stacked against you no matter the outcome.

     

    I always say if Pinnacle Sports with reduced juice comes to the US, its game over for most of the current sportsbooks scams.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:34 PM ET #64

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     right top corner  click the guy   go to your inbox  under account   click the tab that says pending  friend request   and add  me   peace_5

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     right top corner  click the guy   go to your inbox  under account   click the tab that says pending  friend request   and add  me   peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:34 PM ET #65

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     Oh yeah that’s obvious u pay tax for a Big Mac playa we in America they gonna tax any and everything but nah fam that shit is rigged I know personally I can’t put em on blast but yeah dude mfs doing what they gotta do but think that shit a job like anything else the actions ain’t rigged just certain moments and situations to prevent certain outcomes like lakers gettin 100 free throws against golden state to neutralize the shooting but then to insult my intelligence and say there a jump shooting team lmao they beat Boston less than 9 months ago and Denver but that was when the public ain’t believe once they seen golden state was good to go they wasn’t gonna let them beat the lakers because the books woulda got crushed ! Case closed 

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     Oh yeah that’s obvious u pay tax for a Big Mac playa we in America they gonna tax any and everything but nah fam that shit is rigged I know personally I can’t put em on blast but yeah dude mfs doing what they gotta do but think that shit a job like anything else the actions ain’t rigged just certain moments and situations to prevent certain outcomes like lakers gettin 100 free throws against golden state to neutralize the shooting but then to insult my intelligence and say there a jump shooting team lmao they beat Boston less than 9 months ago and Denver but that was when the public ain’t believe once they seen golden state was good to go they wasn’t gonna let them beat the lakers because the books woulda got crushed ! Case closed 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:36 PM ET #66

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     Bet just sent a request tap in gang 

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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:39 PM ET #67

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    @witswits  Oh yeah that’s obvious u pay tax for a Big Mac playa we in America they gonna tax any and everything but nah fam that shit is rigged I know personally I can’t put em on blast but yeah dude mfs doing what they gotta do but think that shit a job like anything else the actions ain’t rigged just certain moments and situations to prevent certain outcomes like lakers gettin 100 free throws against golden state to neutralize the shooting but then to insult my intelligence and say there a jump shooting team lmao they beat Boston less than 9 months ago and Denver but that was when the public ain’t believe once they seen golden state was good to go they wasn’t gonna let them beat the lakers because the books woulda got crushed ! Case closed
    After trying to decipher your posts, I can’t imagine why anyone would insult your intelligence.

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    @witswits  Oh yeah that’s obvious u pay tax for a Big Mac playa we in America they gonna tax any and everything but nah fam that shit is rigged I know personally I can’t put em on blast but yeah dude mfs doing what they gotta do but think that shit a job like anything else the actions ain’t rigged just certain moments and situations to prevent certain outcomes like lakers gettin 100 free throws against golden state to neutralize the shooting but then to insult my intelligence and say there a jump shooting team lmao they beat Boston less than 9 months ago and Denver but that was when the public ain’t believe once they seen golden state was good to go they wasn’t gonna let them beat the lakers because the books woulda got crushed ! Case closed
    After trying to decipher your posts, I can’t imagine why anyone would insult your intelligence.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:46 PM ET #68

    @TheGuru448

     done and  sent a few messages 

    peace_5

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     done and  sent a few messages 

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:52 PM ET #69

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    You understand these guys signing multi-million dollar, multi-year contracts would never be able to bet enough to fix a game to make the consequences worth it.

    Just saying you watch and say a single game or millisecond play fixed the game and they could not get down BIG money with-out every head odds maker in the US knowing a fix was in.

    Sounds good to say it was fixed, but it is not that easy to make it worth it with these guys getting paid mad money.

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    You understand these guys signing multi-million dollar, multi-year contracts would never be able to bet enough to fix a game to make the consequences worth it.

    Just saying you watch and say a single game or millisecond play fixed the game and they could not get down BIG money with-out every head odds maker in the US knowing a fix was in.

    Sounds good to say it was fixed, but it is not that easy to make it worth it with these guys getting paid mad money.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 10:59 PM ET #70

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     just check out props some times   o/u  3s  and points watch what happens  you'll start seeing clearly   player will need 1 more 3 and be wide open wont shoot it  or wont even be behind the 3 point line rest of the game   luka 1st q  over point was like 6  dude never shot  just passed it once he got to 4  the ball the whole first q  an_speechless

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     just check out props some times   o/u  3s  and points watch what happens  you'll start seeing clearly   player will need 1 more 3 and be wide open wont shoot it  or wont even be behind the 3 point line rest of the game   luka 1st q  over point was like 6  dude never shot  just passed it once he got to 4  the ball the whole first q  an_speechless

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 11:11 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by shipit_1:

    @witswits  just check out props some times   o/u  3s  and points watch what happens  you'll start seeing clearly   player will need 1 more 3 and be wide open wont shoot it  or wont even be behind the 3 point line rest of the game   luka 1st q  over point was like 6  dude never shot  just passed it once he got to 4  the ball the whole first q

     

     

    Agreed 100% and if it ends the other way, you'd never mention it. It would be impossible to bet millions on a short prop without a investigation. You understand having all these sportsbooks communicating makes it impossible to fix a game as all talk and know what others are doing in setting odds on all aspects of the game.

     

    A bad beat is nothing more then a bad beat. The guys on the other side of the bet seen the same play as a great call on the game. I always said to the guys that left the race track and saying its fixed, to simply find the fixed horse and stop complaining. The juice at most horse racing outlets is almost 20%. Try and beat those odds.

     

     

     

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    @witswits  just check out props some times   o/u  3s  and points watch what happens  you'll start seeing clearly   player will need 1 more 3 and be wide open wont shoot it  or wont even be behind the 3 point line rest of the game   luka 1st q  over point was like 6  dude never shot  just passed it once he got to 4  the ball the whole first q

     

     

    Agreed 100% and if it ends the other way, you'd never mention it. It would be impossible to bet millions on a short prop without a investigation. You understand having all these sportsbooks communicating makes it impossible to fix a game as all talk and know what others are doing in setting odds on all aspects of the game.

     

    A bad beat is nothing more then a bad beat. The guys on the other side of the bet seen the same play as a great call on the game. I always said to the guys that left the race track and saying its fixed, to simply find the fixed horse and stop complaining. The juice at most horse racing outlets is almost 20%. Try and beat those odds.

     

     

     

     
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     Ive heard this argument SOOOO many times and it is complete and utter NONSENSE. Look throughout the entirety of human history and show me a time where someone had SO much money, they were INCORRUPTIBLE. You think these bullpen guys on 2 year deals making a couple milli wouldnt throw a meatball up in the 8th or 9th to flip a game that possibly has hundreds of millions of dollars riding on the other side of it for triple their annual salary? How stupid do you think people are? It is BLATANTlY obvious when certain players are actively avoiding hitting props and such. Just like Guru mentioned. Its all just a game my dude. Entertainment at its finest. Bread and Circuses. Might as well be MLB, brought to you by Barnum and Bailey!

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     Ive heard this argument SOOOO many times and it is complete and utter NONSENSE. Look throughout the entirety of human history and show me a time where someone had SO much money, they were INCORRUPTIBLE. You think these bullpen guys on 2 year deals making a couple milli wouldnt throw a meatball up in the 8th or 9th to flip a game that possibly has hundreds of millions of dollars riding on the other side of it for triple their annual salary? How stupid do you think people are? It is BLATANTlY obvious when certain players are actively avoiding hitting props and such. Just like Guru mentioned. Its all just a game my dude. Entertainment at its finest. Bread and Circuses. Might as well be MLB, brought to you by Barnum and Bailey!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 11:53 PM ET #73

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    @witswits    Ive heard this argument SOOOO many times and it is complete and utter NONSENSE.

     

     

    I as well heard that SOOOOO many times. There is not hundreds of millions on a no interest baseball game and the consequences would not be worth it to the player or the sports integrity.  Try and lay a bet of 20K or more with any book online or at most casinos. Not as easy as you think and it draws attention. Granted the Vegas sportsbooks have the regulars that they have a relationship with but to lay hundreds of millions on a lopsided game is not happening "ever" without a department head or someone asking questions.

    Sorry but we will agree to disagree and hope you are on the side you think was fixed, but its not.

     

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    @witswits    Ive heard this argument SOOOO many times and it is complete and utter NONSENSE.

     

     

    I as well heard that SOOOOO many times. There is not hundreds of millions on a no interest baseball game and the consequences would not be worth it to the player or the sports integrity.  Try and lay a bet of 20K or more with any book online or at most casinos. Not as easy as you think and it draws attention. Granted the Vegas sportsbooks have the regulars that they have a relationship with but to lay hundreds of millions on a lopsided game is not happening "ever" without a department head or someone asking questions.

    Sorry but we will agree to disagree and hope you are on the side you think was fixed, but its not.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 11:54 PM ET #74

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     Thank you !!!! Like they getting paid money to do what they are told don’t get it twisted follow the money and you will see how crooked this shit really gets I know u don’t wanna believe wrestling is staged but it is and the sports are too because ur paying the “best athletes” doesn’t mean the outcome is solely based on the play we all know that isn’t true one bit hell who you think can make or miss on command better than a Pro ? They can make the misses look as good as the makes and I can tell when the stats for the game are set they can’t break the script and if they do next few games they will pay for it simple as that this is a trillion dollar business they even give you delayed and arbitrary scores during live lines they looking for every advantage they can get don’t ever for a min think there’s enough money when Mike Tyson went broke cmon fam there’s been players who’ve come forward and admitted guilt look up headache smith I mean when u make a lot of money u spend a lot of money and to think u can’t make a mistake than ya lost ya mind or you just want more either way money makes the pope do corrupt shit but these mfs are playing fair ? Yeah right 

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     Thank you !!!! Like they getting paid money to do what they are told don’t get it twisted follow the money and you will see how crooked this shit really gets I know u don’t wanna believe wrestling is staged but it is and the sports are too because ur paying the “best athletes” doesn’t mean the outcome is solely based on the play we all know that isn’t true one bit hell who you think can make or miss on command better than a Pro ? They can make the misses look as good as the makes and I can tell when the stats for the game are set they can’t break the script and if they do next few games they will pay for it simple as that this is a trillion dollar business they even give you delayed and arbitrary scores during live lines they looking for every advantage they can get don’t ever for a min think there’s enough money when Mike Tyson went broke cmon fam there’s been players who’ve come forward and admitted guilt look up headache smith I mean when u make a lot of money u spend a lot of money and to think u can’t make a mistake than ya lost ya mind or you just want more either way money makes the pope do corrupt shit but these mfs are playing fair ? Yeah right 

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2023 - 11:56 PM ET #75

    Just look at the brewers game ironically no runs scored so far they letting u stock pile all the money on dodgers just so when the diamondbacks game ends they gonna let brewers go ahead and score a few get some of that dodgers money back so don’t think they giving up the dodgers at -155 after playing the fake schedule time to empty the bucket because they got all the wins getting ready to get snatched in one game 

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    Just look at the brewers game ironically no runs scored so far they letting u stock pile all the money on dodgers just so when the diamondbacks game ends they gonna let brewers go ahead and score a few get some of that dodgers money back so don’t think they giving up the dodgers at -155 after playing the fake schedule time to empty the bucket because they got all the wins getting ready to get snatched in one game 

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