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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2008 - 2:58 AM ET #26

    love vande velde in the next 3 days.  think he might test the waters of the leaders.  he mentioned after stage 10 that he could've gone with the leaders and should have.  i think he hasn't shown everything yet.  we'll see...
     
    Stage 15:
     
    Vande Velde over Efimkim      +110  (5 units)
    S. Sanchez over Cunego        +110  (2 units)
    Siutsou over Szmyd                -110  (3 units)
    Fothen over Moinard               -105  (2 units)
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    love vande velde in the next 3 days.  think he might test the waters of the leaders.  he mentioned after stage 10 that he could've gone with the leaders and should have.  i think he hasn't shown everything yet.  we'll see...
     
    Stage 15:
     
    Vande Velde over Efimkim      +110  (5 units)
    S. Sanchez over Cunego        +110  (2 units)
    Siutsou over Szmyd                -110  (3 units)
    Fothen over Moinard               -105  (2 units)
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2008 - 12:49 PM ET #27

    Stage 15:  2-2  +2.30 units 
     
    Vande Velde over Efimkim      +110  (5 units)   
    S. Sanchez over Cunego        +110  (2 units)   
    Siutsou over Szmyd                -110  (3 units) 
    Fothen over Moinard               -105  (2 units) 
     
    Stage 1 = - 1.80 units
    Stage 2 = +6.80 units
    Stage 3 = no plays
    Stage 4 = no plays
    Stage 5 = -11.80 units
    Stage 6 = - 4.00 units
    Stage 7 = +2.00 units
    Stage 8 =  -0.90 units
    Stage 9 =  -2.70 units
    Stage 10 = +7.15 units
    Stage 11 = -1.80 units
    Stage 12 = no plays
    Stage 13 = +4.70 units
    Stage 14 = no plays
    Stage 15 = +2.30 units
     
    Total =   -0.05 units  
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    Stage 15:  2-2  +2.30 units 
     
    Vande Velde over Efimkim      +110  (5 units)   
    S. Sanchez over Cunego        +110  (2 units)   
    Siutsou over Szmyd                -110  (3 units) 
    Fothen over Moinard               -105  (2 units) 
     
    Stage 1 = - 1.80 units
    Stage 2 = +6.80 units
    Stage 3 = no plays
    Stage 4 = no plays
    Stage 5 = -11.80 units
    Stage 6 = - 4.00 units
    Stage 7 = +2.00 units
    Stage 8 =  -0.90 units
    Stage 9 =  -2.70 units
    Stage 10 = +7.15 units
    Stage 11 = -1.80 units
    Stage 12 = no plays
    Stage 13 = +4.70 units
    Stage 14 = no plays
    Stage 15 = +2.30 units
     
    Total =   -0.05 units  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2008 - 1:09 AM ET #28

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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2008 - 1:09 AM ET #29

    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Cyril Dessel vs Sylvain Chavanel
    901 Cyril Dessel     1.65  
    902 Sylvain Chavanel     2.35  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Cadel Evans vs Frank Schleck
    903 Cadel Evans     1.80  
    904 Frank Schleck     2.05  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Dennis Menchov vs Carlos Sastre
    905 Dennis Menchov     1.87  
    906 Carlos Sastre     1.95  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Andy Schleck vs Kim Kirchen
    907 Andy Schleck     1.69  
    908 Kim Kirchen     2.25  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Sandy Casar vs Damiano Cunego
    909 Sandy Casar     1.77  
    910
    Damiano Cunego     2.10  
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    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Cyril Dessel vs Sylvain Chavanel
    901 Cyril Dessel     1.65  
    902 Sylvain Chavanel     2.35  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Cadel Evans vs Frank Schleck
    903 Cadel Evans     1.80  
    904 Frank Schleck     2.05  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Dennis Menchov vs Carlos Sastre
    905 Dennis Menchov     1.87  
    906 Carlos Sastre     1.95  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Andy Schleck vs Kim Kirchen
    907 Andy Schleck     1.69  
    908 Kim Kirchen     2.25  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Sandy Casar vs Damiano Cunego
    909 Sandy Casar     1.77  
    910
    Damiano Cunego     2.10  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2008 - 1:10 AM ET #30

    /22/2008 5:30 AM Matteo Carrara vs Alexandre Botcharov
    911 Matteo Carrara     1.83  
    912 Alexandre Botcharov     2.00  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Eduardo Gonzalo vs Haimar Zubeldia
    913 Eduardo Gonzalo     1.71  
    914 Haimar Zubeldia     2.20  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Mario Bruseghin vs Yaroslav Popovych
    915 Mario Bruseghin     1.69  
    916 Yaroslav Popovych     2.25  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM David Arroyo vs Amets Txurruka
    917 David Arroyo     1.87  
    918 Amets Txurruka     1.95  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Sylvester Szmyd vs Konstantin Siutsou
    919 Sylvester Szmyd     1.71  
    920 Konstantin Siutsou     2.20  
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    /22/2008 5:30 AM Matteo Carrara vs Alexandre Botcharov
    911 Matteo Carrara     1.83  
    912 Alexandre Botcharov     2.00  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Eduardo Gonzalo vs Haimar Zubeldia
    913 Eduardo Gonzalo     1.71  
    914 Haimar Zubeldia     2.20  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Mario Bruseghin vs Yaroslav Popovych
    915 Mario Bruseghin     1.69  
    916 Yaroslav Popovych     2.25  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM David Arroyo vs Amets Txurruka
    917 David Arroyo     1.87  
    918 Amets Txurruka     1.95  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Sylvester Szmyd vs Konstantin Siutsou
    919 Sylvester Szmyd     1.71  
    920 Konstantin Siutsou     2.20  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2008 - 1:10 AM ET #31

    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Amael Moinard vs Johann Tschopp
    921 Amael Moinard     1.83  
    922 Johann Tschopp     2.00  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Hubert Dupont vs Remi de Gregorio
    923 Hubert Dupont     1.91  
    924 Remi de Gregorio     1.91  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Vladimir Efimkin vs Vincenzo Nibali
    925 Vladimir Efimkin     1.87  
    926 Vincenzo Nibali     1.95  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Roman Kreuziger vs Tadej Valjavec
    927 Roman Kreuziger     1.67  
    928 Tadej Valjavec     2.30  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM John Lee Augustyn vs David Moncoutie
    929 John Lee Augustyn     1.65  
    930
    David Moncoutie     2.35  
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    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Amael Moinard vs Johann Tschopp
    921 Amael Moinard     1.83  
    922 Johann Tschopp     2.00  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Hubert Dupont vs Remi de Gregorio
    923 Hubert Dupont     1.91  
    924 Remi de Gregorio     1.91  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Vladimir Efimkin vs Vincenzo Nibali
    925 Vladimir Efimkin     1.87  
    926 Vincenzo Nibali     1.95  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM Roman Kreuziger vs Tadej Valjavec
    927 Roman Kreuziger     1.67  
    928 Tadej Valjavec     2.30  
    7/22/2008 5:30 AM John Lee Augustyn vs David Moncoutie
    929 John Lee Augustyn     1.65  
    930
    David Moncoutie     2.35  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2008 - 1:10 AM ET #32

    Anyone see anything good.

    I haven't watched cycling and the Tour in a few years.
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    Anyone see anything good.

    I haven't watched cycling and the Tour in a few years.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2008 - 1:44 AM ET #33

    these lines are tough tonite headoverheart.  i am looking over them now, but don't see much i like.
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    these lines are tough tonite headoverheart.  i am looking over them now, but don't see much i like.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2008 - 2:08 AM ET #34

    All that I like.  Can't wait to watch it.  Looking for a winning day so i can be positive overall.
     
    Stage 16:
     
    F. Schlek over Menchov        +113 (2 units)
    Efimkim over Nibali                -110 (2 units)
    S. Sanchez over Valverde      +125 (2 units)
    Kreuziger over Vande Velde  +117 (2 units)
    Menchov over Evans             +140 (2 units)
     
    i may add menchov to win it all.  i will see how he looks tomorrow, but at +250, i think there is a lot of value there.  he probably wont gain any time tomorrow because of the downhill finish, but i will see how his form is.
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    All that I like.  Can't wait to watch it.  Looking for a winning day so i can be positive overall.
     
    Stage 16:
     
    F. Schlek over Menchov        +113 (2 units)
    Efimkim over Nibali                -110 (2 units)
    S. Sanchez over Valverde      +125 (2 units)
    Kreuziger over Vande Velde  +117 (2 units)
    Menchov over Evans             +140 (2 units)
     
    i may add menchov to win it all.  i will see how he looks tomorrow, but at +250, i think there is a lot of value there.  he probably wont gain any time tomorrow because of the downhill finish, but i will see how his form is.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2008 - 2:20 AM ET #35

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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2008 - 12:12 PM ET #36

    i finally got back to positive.  since stage 7, i am up over 10 units.  but overall is what counts.  i will take it.  could have been a more profitable day if sanchez had held that breakaway on the downhill finish, but i'll take it.
     
    Stage 16:  3-2  +2.6 units 
     
    F. Schlek over Menchov        +113 (2 units)   
    Efimkim over Nibali                -110 (2 units)   
    S. Sanchez over Valverde      +125 (2 units)  
    Kreuziger over Vande Velde  +117 (2 units)   
    Menchov over Evans              +140 (2 units)   
     
    Stage 1 = - 1.80 units
    Stage 2 = +6.80 units
    Stage 3 = no plays
    Stage 4 = no plays
    Stage 5 = -11.80 units
    Stage 6 = - 4.00 units
    Stage 7 = +2.00 units
    Stage 8 =  -0.90 units
    Stage 9 =  -2.70 units
    Stage 10 = +7.15 units
    Stage 11 = -1.80 units
    Stage 12 = no plays
    Stage 13 = +4.70 units
    Stage 14 = no plays
    Stage 15 = +2.30 units
    Stage 16 = +2.60 units
     
    Total =   +2.55 units  
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    i finally got back to positive.  since stage 7, i am up over 10 units.  but overall is what counts.  i will take it.  could have been a more profitable day if sanchez had held that breakaway on the downhill finish, but i'll take it.
     
    Stage 16:  3-2  +2.6 units 
     
    F. Schlek over Menchov        +113 (2 units)   
    Efimkim over Nibali                -110 (2 units)   
    S. Sanchez over Valverde      +125 (2 units)  
    Kreuziger over Vande Velde  +117 (2 units)   
    Menchov over Evans              +140 (2 units)   
     
    Stage 1 = - 1.80 units
    Stage 2 = +6.80 units
    Stage 3 = no plays
    Stage 4 = no plays
    Stage 5 = -11.80 units
    Stage 6 = - 4.00 units
    Stage 7 = +2.00 units
    Stage 8 =  -0.90 units
    Stage 9 =  -2.70 units
    Stage 10 = +7.15 units
    Stage 11 = -1.80 units
    Stage 12 = no plays
    Stage 13 = +4.70 units
    Stage 14 = no plays
    Stage 15 = +2.30 units
    Stage 16 = +2.60 units
     
    Total =   +2.55 units  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2008 - 1:55 AM ET #38

    Stage 17 - the BIG one:
     
    Szmyd over Arroyo               -135  (3 units)
    Vande Velde over Kreuziger  -145  (6 units)
    Menchov over Sastre            +115  (2 units)
     
    i made some careless big bets early in the race, but i really like vande velde tomorrow.  he was right off the leaders today but crashed which is why this line is so low.  i think he beats kreuziger 8 or 9 times out of 10 up these mountains.  i like the szmyd bet a lot b/c he has been riding well the past 2 day and arroyo was in the break today so he will be spent.  i think that menchov is going to go after it like he did on sunday before his fall.  this is a value bet.  they will probably finish together.
    Reply
    Stage 17 - the BIG one:
     
    Szmyd over Arroyo               -135  (3 units)
    Vande Velde over Kreuziger  -145  (6 units)
    Menchov over Sastre            +115  (2 units)
     
    i made some careless big bets early in the race, but i really like vande velde tomorrow.  he was right off the leaders today but crashed which is why this line is so low.  i think he beats kreuziger 8 or 9 times out of 10 up these mountains.  i like the szmyd bet a lot b/c he has been riding well the past 2 day and arroyo was in the break today so he will be spent.  i think that menchov is going to go after it like he did on sunday before his fall.  this is a value bet.  they will probably finish together.
     
    Bolar
    Bolar
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2008 - 4:10 AM ET #39

    Good luck!
    Reply
    Good luck!
     
    Bolar
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2008 - 4:10 AM ET #40

    It's all about that Russian today!
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    It's all about that Russian today!
     
     
    sims_key
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2008 - 1:04 PM ET #41

    Stage 17:  1-2  -0.05 units
     
    Szmyd over Arroyo               -135  (3 units) 
    Vande Velde over Kreuziger  -145  (6 units)  
    Menchov over Sastre            +115  (2 units) 
     
    Stage 1 = - 1.80 units
    Stage 2 = +6.80 units
    Stage 3 = no plays
    Stage 4 = no plays
    Stage 5 = -11.80 units
    Stage 6 = - 4.00 units
    Stage 7 = +2.00 units
    Stage 8 =  -0.90 units
    Stage 9 =  -2.70 units
    Stage 10 = +7.15 units
    Stage 11 = -1.80 units
    Stage 12 = no plays
    Stage 13 = +4.70 units
    Stage 14 = no plays
    Stage 15 = +2.30 units
    Stage 16 = +2.60 units
    Stage 17 = -0.05 units
     
    Total =   +2.50 units  
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    Stage 17:  1-2  -0.05 units
     
    Szmyd over Arroyo               -135  (3 units) 
    Vande Velde over Kreuziger  -145  (6 units)  
    Menchov over Sastre            +115  (2 units) 
     
    Stage 1 = - 1.80 units
    Stage 2 = +6.80 units
    Stage 3 = no plays
    Stage 4 = no plays
    Stage 5 = -11.80 units
    Stage 6 = - 4.00 units
    Stage 7 = +2.00 units
    Stage 8 =  -0.90 units
    Stage 9 =  -2.70 units
    Stage 10 = +7.15 units
    Stage 11 = -1.80 units
    Stage 12 = no plays
    Stage 13 = +4.70 units
    Stage 14 = no plays
    Stage 15 = +2.30 units
    Stage 16 = +2.60 units
    Stage 17 = -0.05 units
     
    Total =   +2.50 units  
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