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    Davenz
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 1:33 AM ET #1

    Major sporting team on the planet?

    They do very little outside of the subcontinent and often get embarrased. A champion wins in all conditions in their sport.
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    Major sporting team on the planet?

    They do very little outside of the subcontinent and often get embarrased. A champion wins in all conditions in their sport.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 1:55 AM ET #2

    Yep there gay
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    Yep there gay
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 1:58 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Yep there gay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Yep there gay

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 7:14 AM ET #4

    Far from the most overrated but definitely lacking in terms of making a mark outside of their home conditions. Although until their debacle in England late last year I think their record away from India had actually been reasonably impressive over the past couple of years.  

    They've disappointed on this tour thus far but on their two most recent trips to Australia they've been pretty feisty and had the better of a large portion of both series (I think both series were drawn?). 

    They're a mystery this time round though. I really thought Ishant Sharma would be one of the best fast bowlers in the world by now after what he showed out here last time. But he looks a shell of the bowler he was despite three more years of experience. I'd have liked to have seen Sreesanth out here again as he has a bit of attitude. 

    In the batting department they've got guys who're proven performers out here but a couple of them are getting long in the tooth now. Dravid is a great ambassador for Indian cricket but his footwork and reflexes look to be seriously on the wane. The same can be said for VVS Laxman who's always been a bit of an enigma but a giant killer against Australia. 

    After this series they really should look towards ushering out a couple of these guys with more 'yesterdays than tomorrows' and bringing in some new blood - god knows they've got enough talented batsmen churning out huge runs in their domestic scene. This Rohit Sharma is being held back despite being rated by many good judges as one of the best batsmen in the world right now.

    Overall imo the really disappointing thing about India today and when they're at their worst is the way they basically give up. They go totally quiet in the field, their shoulders drop and they exude negativity that tells the opposition they're ripe for the beating. Even though Australia has had some dark moments over the past couple of years they always give off the impression they're busting a gut and trying to find a way back until the result is in. South Africa is the same and even England has managed to find that fighting quality of late as well. 

    One thing that shouldn't be overlooked in this series imo is Australia's bowling. With Mitchell Johnson tipping the fuck out we now have an attack that bowls a lot of balls in the right areas and builds pressure. James Pattinson bowls quick outswingers in good areas - a simple formula that will get him a tonne of wickets if he can stay fit and maintain his form. Peter Siddle has gone to another level this summer and should always be the first fast bowler picked in the aussie team because he's super aggressive and would run through brick walls for the team if he had to. Every team needs a bowler like him. 


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    Far from the most overrated but definitely lacking in terms of making a mark outside of their home conditions. Although until their debacle in England late last year I think their record away from India had actually been reasonably impressive over the past couple of years.  

    They've disappointed on this tour thus far but on their two most recent trips to Australia they've been pretty feisty and had the better of a large portion of both series (I think both series were drawn?). 

    They're a mystery this time round though. I really thought Ishant Sharma would be one of the best fast bowlers in the world by now after what he showed out here last time. But he looks a shell of the bowler he was despite three more years of experience. I'd have liked to have seen Sreesanth out here again as he has a bit of attitude. 

    In the batting department they've got guys who're proven performers out here but a couple of them are getting long in the tooth now. Dravid is a great ambassador for Indian cricket but his footwork and reflexes look to be seriously on the wane. The same can be said for VVS Laxman who's always been a bit of an enigma but a giant killer against Australia. 

    After this series they really should look towards ushering out a couple of these guys with more 'yesterdays than tomorrows' and bringing in some new blood - god knows they've got enough talented batsmen churning out huge runs in their domestic scene. This Rohit Sharma is being held back despite being rated by many good judges as one of the best batsmen in the world right now.

    Overall imo the really disappointing thing about India today and when they're at their worst is the way they basically give up. They go totally quiet in the field, their shoulders drop and they exude negativity that tells the opposition they're ripe for the beating. Even though Australia has had some dark moments over the past couple of years they always give off the impression they're busting a gut and trying to find a way back until the result is in. South Africa is the same and even England has managed to find that fighting quality of late as well. 

    One thing that shouldn't be overlooked in this series imo is Australia's bowling. With Mitchell Johnson tipping the fuck out we now have an attack that bowls a lot of balls in the right areas and builds pressure. James Pattinson bowls quick outswingers in good areas - a simple formula that will get him a tonne of wickets if he can stay fit and maintain his form. Peter Siddle has gone to another level this summer and should always be the first fast bowler picked in the aussie team because he's super aggressive and would run through brick walls for the team if he had to. Every team needs a bowler like him. 


     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:43 AM ET #5

    They look really bad. They dont have the temperment for test cricket.

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    They look really bad. They dont have the temperment for test cricket.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:06 AM ET #6

    The next time we travel to India there going to destroy us just as badly as so i'm not going to bag them too much
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    The next time we travel to India there going to destroy us just as badly as so i'm not going to bag them too much
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:18 AM ET #7

    can you imagine the payback they've got in store for last night's pitch pissup debacle ?!  When Australia asks for the heavy roller they'll get cows and fire crackers or a dead body rolling the pitch 
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    can you imagine the payback they've got in store for last night's pitch pissup debacle ?!  When Australia asks for the heavy roller they'll get cows and fire crackers or a dead body rolling the pitch 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:21 AM ET #8

    Pakistan were paid to lose and they were not as bad as this Indian team
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    Pakistan were paid to lose and they were not as bad as this Indian team
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:37 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    can you imagine the payback they've got in store for last night's pitch pissup debacle ?!  When Australia asks for the heavy roller they'll get cows and fire crackers or a dead body rolling the pitch 




    India 0/800 on day 1 at tea  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    can you imagine the payback they've got in store for last night's pitch pissup debacle ?!  When Australia asks for the heavy roller they'll get cows and fire crackers or a dead body rolling the pitch 




    India 0/800 on day 1 at tea  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:38 AM ET #10

    Pakistan would never lose if they were series about cricket and not doing the herpa derp
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    Pakistan would never lose if they were series about cricket and not doing the herpa derp
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:54 AM ET #11

    herpa derp
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    herpa derp
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 4:59 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Pakistan would never lose if they were series about cricket and not doing the herpa derp


    seriesly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Pakistan would never lose if they were series about cricket and not doing the herpa derp


    seriesly?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 9:34 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:




    One thing that shouldn't be overlooked in this series imo is Australia's bowling. With Mitchell Johnson tipping the fuck out we now have an attack that bowls a lot of balls in the right areas and builds pressure. James Pattinson bowls quick outswingers in good areas - a simple formula that will get him a tonne of wickets if he can stay fit and maintain his form. Peter Siddle has gone to another level this summer and should always be the first fast bowler picked in the aussie team because he's super aggressive and would run through brick walls for the team if he had to. Every team needs a bowler like him. 


    Agree 100%. They bowled quite well against New Zealand as well. Craig McDermott has done a wonderful job and now that pie chucker is gone, they look to have a rotation in Pattinson, Cummins (when fit), Harris, Hilfy and Siddle that can challenge England. Even Starc bowled some good stuff yesterday. Love how they are bowling full and finally actually moving the ball consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:




    One thing that shouldn't be overlooked in this series imo is Australia's bowling. With Mitchell Johnson tipping the fuck out we now have an attack that bowls a lot of balls in the right areas and builds pressure. James Pattinson bowls quick outswingers in good areas - a simple formula that will get him a tonne of wickets if he can stay fit and maintain his form. Peter Siddle has gone to another level this summer and should always be the first fast bowler picked in the aussie team because he's super aggressive and would run through brick walls for the team if he had to. Every team needs a bowler like him. 


    Agree 100%. They bowled quite well against New Zealand as well. Craig McDermott has done a wonderful job and now that pie chucker is gone, they look to have a rotation in Pattinson, Cummins (when fit), Harris, Hilfy and Siddle that can challenge England. Even Starc bowled some good stuff yesterday. Love how they are bowling full and finally actually moving the ball consistently.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 9:39 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Davenz:

    Major sporting team on the planet?

    They do very little outside of the subcontinent and often get embarrased. A champion wins in all conditions in their sport.

    Yes they are, and MS Dhoni is the most overrated captain / keeper-batsman / plodding donkey on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davenz:

    Major sporting team on the planet?

    They do very little outside of the subcontinent and often get embarrased. A champion wins in all conditions in their sport.

    Yes they are, and MS Dhoni is the most overrated captain / keeper-batsman / plodding donkey on the planet.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 10:18 PM ET #15

    They just said on the TV that since Marsh got out in Sydney, Australia have lost 1/809
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    They just said on the TV that since Marsh got out in Sydney, Australia have lost 1/809
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 10:19 PM ET #16

     Dhoni

    You're the one with the gloves you muppet

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     Dhoni

    You're the one with the gloves you muppet

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 10:45 PM ET #17

    Warner and Cowan are the worst opening pair to ever get a 200 run stand,neither of the two can bat,they play and miss at a ridiculous amount of deliveries and they also mishit a ridiculous amount of deliveries,there fortunate things have been going there way,neither of these two donkeys will be playing for Australia in a few years
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    Warner and Cowan are the worst opening pair to ever get a 200 run stand,neither of the two can bat,they play and miss at a ridiculous amount of deliveries and they also mishit a ridiculous amount of deliveries,there fortunate things have been going there way,neither of these two donkeys will be playing for Australia in a few years
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 10:52 PM ET #18

    Cowan especially is a absolute donkey,95% of his shots are off the edge of the bat
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    Cowan especially is a absolute donkey,95% of his shots are off the edge of the bat
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 11:12 PM ET #19

    Marsh only averages 38 in first class cricket,what on earth is he doing playing for Australia with a piss poor average like that
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    Marsh only averages 38 in first class cricket,what on earth is he doing playing for Australia with a piss poor average like that
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 11:15 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Marsh only averages 38 in first class cricket,what on earth is he doing playing for Australia with a piss poor average like that

    piss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Marsh only averages 38 in first class cricket,what on earth is he doing playing for Australia with a piss poor average like that

    piss

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 11:17 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Warner and Cowan are the worst opening pair to ever get a 200 run stand,neither of the two can bat,they play and miss at a ridiculous amount of deliveries and they also mishit a ridiculous amount of deliveries,there fortunate things have been going there way,neither of these two donkeys will be playing for Australia in a few years

    I don't mind Warner being there, he's going to look like a donkey sometimes but at least he gets on with it and like yesterday, can get Australia off to a good start before the inevitable collapse rolls along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Warner and Cowan are the worst opening pair to ever get a 200 run stand,neither of the two can bat,they play and miss at a ridiculous amount of deliveries and they also mishit a ridiculous amount of deliveries,there fortunate things have been going there way,neither of these two donkeys will be playing for Australia in a few years

    I don't mind Warner being there, he's going to look like a donkey sometimes but at least he gets on with it and like yesterday, can get Australia off to a good start before the inevitable collapse rolls along.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 11:27 PM ET #22

    Here comes the collapse
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    Here comes the collapse
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 12:42 AM ET #23

    Never in my life seen a team that is so invincible at home yet absolutely rubbish away from home....

    As Hirsh said, the Canberra Raiders of international cricket...Dare i say India is probably even better at home than the raiders are at home but India are worse away from home than the raiders are  away from home......

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    Never in my life seen a team that is so invincible at home yet absolutely rubbish away from home....

    As Hirsh said, the Canberra Raiders of international cricket...Dare i say India is probably even better at home than the raiders are at home but India are worse away from home than the raiders are  away from home......

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 12:48 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Cowan especially is a absolute donkey,95% of his shots are off the edge of the bat


    This is actually true. Most of his runs came between 3rd slip and gully
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Cowan especially is a absolute donkey,95% of his shots are off the edge of the bat


    This is actually true. Most of his runs came between 3rd slip and gully
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 12:49 AM ET #25

    I'm watching the Star sports coverage (indian feed) just for a laugh

    After Warner got out for 180, Ganguly spoke about how Ishant Sharma had the last laugh after he got Warner out 

    How many 4's and 6's did Warner hit off Sharma in the innings
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    I'm watching the Star sports coverage (indian feed) just for a laugh

    After Warner got out for 180, Ganguly spoke about how Ishant Sharma had the last laugh after he got Warner out 

    How many 4's and 6's did Warner hit off Sharma in the innings
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