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    Cycling: 2010 Milan-SanRemo (20th March)

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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2010 - 12:36 AM ET #1

    It's here again. The Milan-SanRemo.

    Last year Cavendish won at odds of 14-1 and yes, I backed him. This year, he is 10-1 because he is horribly out of form and behind schedule in training. They have him peaking for the Tour de France and the World's so the chances of Cavendish winning and featuring up there are very slim.

    So let's have a look at the market.

    Andre Greipel - $6

    So with Cavendish failing to produce results, Greipel is a favourite? He's yet to proven he can win over 200km. He is probably the second best sprinter in the world behind Cavendish, but the Columbia lead out train this year is weakened compared to last year. I can't see Greipel coming top 3, but you never know.

    Tom Boonen - $7

    Coke head is on a high. He has had a handful of wins so far this year and claimed his first win on Italian soil last week in Stage 2 of Tirreno-Adriatico. He's declared his ambitions to win Flanders again and make it another win in Paris-Roubaix but he has also mentioned the Italian monument as a race he would like to win. He is in excellent form at the moment and cannot be discounted.

    Mark Cavendish - $10

    So the Manx Missile has gone out from a $3.50 favourite a month ago to a $10 chance. Despite him being out of form, if he creeps out further it's tempting to have a nibble. That's what the books want. For you to have a nibble and give them money. Everyone knows I'm a huge fan of Cavendish and have been before he turned professional. If his odds do go out further, I will consider backing him as a small stake.

    Edvald Boasson-Hagen - $12

    EBH is class. No doubt about it. This guy is a good outsider to win the Green Jersey at the TDF this year. He can climb, he can sprint, he is a major talent. Two years ago I said that Cavendish could probably win about 5 - 6 Green Jersey's. Well this guy is his major threat over the coming years. He is a quality rider and is good value to get Sky another classics victory following Flecha's win two weekends ago in a semi classic, Omloop. Don't discount this guy. He's a very strong chance to win this.

    Philippe Gilbert - $12

    Watching over the last few weeks you get a sense that Gilbert is close to producing a win. He has declared that he wouldn't mind winning this race, but he also has other ambitions. For him to win, he needs to get away on the Poggio and he needs to bring Cancellara and Boasson-Hagen with him. He won't be able to do a solo break. No one will be able to do a solo break. Not with strong teams like Rabobank, Liquigas and Quick-Step aiming for wins. Throw in Garmin, Columbia and Lampre for Pettachi and you have a 98% chance of a sprint. Won't be his year.

    Oscar Freire - $12

    Freire is in excellent form. He has a couple wins next to his name already, 3 in fact. He hasn't shown much in Tirreno-Adriatico, but if he does go well in the sprinters stage tomorrow, he is a good chance of backing it up on Saturday here. Rabobank have a strong team for him and he is a very strong chance here. Definately over the odds.

    Heinrich Haussler - $15

    A few weeks ago, I was actually eyeing Haussler for this race. He was the pick of the peloton this time last year even though he was unable to break through for a win. He is injured and his major goal is going one better in Flanders. I don't think he will race here. If he does, it will be to get some good form for Flanders. However, in Omloop a few weeks ago, he had the same injury and rode exceptionally well.

    Alessandro Petacchi - $15

    This guy has hit form at the right time. He's a huge danger here and he has had some good performances this year thus far. If he was to win any big race this year, MSR would be the one.

    Filippo Pozzato - $17

    The Italian has had mixed form so far this year. In actual fact, he hasn't impressed me at all. Don't touch.

    Peter Sagan - $20

    For starters, he's only listed because he was the talk of Paris-Nice last week winning two stages as a neo-pro. Liquigas are riding for Bennati. Don't waste your money backing him. Hell, he isn't even named on their start list yet.

    Daniele Bennati - $20

    This is more like it. Bennati is most likely going to be my pick Each-way. He is generous odds and he is in form. Liquigas were bloody strong last week in Tirreno-Adriatico, dominating the train in the closing kilometres like Columbia do. They have screwed up a few finishes but they are a dominate force. Bennati should be single figures, or even around $12. Not $20. If Liquigas do get their train right, he wins this.

    Fabian Cancellara - $20

    Cancellara has expressed his intentions on winning Flanders. He won't win here unless a break gets away but as mentioned previously, with so many sprinters teams strong and determined to deliver their men to the line, his chances are slim.

    Thor Hushovd - $25

    He's easing into his season. I highly doubt he will win here. He may feature in the top three, but Cervelo haven't got their train working.

    Tyler Farrar - $28

    The American is over the odds. He has a strong team and he's in reasonable form. He has no trouble getting over the Poggio. He can feature and will. They say he's feeling great and if his team mates didn't drop off in the lowsy conditions in TA, he would have probably had a couple of wins.

    Allan Davis, Alessandro Ballan, Luis Leon Sanchez - $45

    No chance.

    Greg Henderson - $55

    He's won a couple times this year and he should have no troubles getting over the Poggio the way he has climbed this year. Won a brilliant stage in PN last week in crap conditions. Could feature.

    Gerald Ciolek - $55

    No chance.

    Lorenzetto, Breschel, Paolini, Loddo, Rodriguez

    The first four cannot be discounted, particularly Paolini, but don't hold your breath. They won't feature. Rodriguez will be riding for McEwen.

    Robbie McEwen - $65

    Robbie has displayed some excellent form this year and has shown he can climb well, something he hasn't done in the past. He's not known as a climber but he is in excellent form at the moment. An outside chance. His odds should be more around $40.

    Sylvain Chavanel, Sebastien Chavanel, Flecha, Avermaet - won't feature. Napolitano hasn't shown anything this year like he has other years.

    I think the winner will come from Bennati, Freire, Farrar and Boonen. I'm leaning Bennati.
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    It's here again. The Milan-SanRemo.

    Last year Cavendish won at odds of 14-1 and yes, I backed him. This year, he is 10-1 because he is horribly out of form and behind schedule in training. They have him peaking for the Tour de France and the World's so the chances of Cavendish winning and featuring up there are very slim.

    So let's have a look at the market.

    Andre Greipel - $6

    So with Cavendish failing to produce results, Greipel is a favourite? He's yet to proven he can win over 200km. He is probably the second best sprinter in the world behind Cavendish, but the Columbia lead out train this year is weakened compared to last year. I can't see Greipel coming top 3, but you never know.

    Tom Boonen - $7

    Coke head is on a high. He has had a handful of wins so far this year and claimed his first win on Italian soil last week in Stage 2 of Tirreno-Adriatico. He's declared his ambitions to win Flanders again and make it another win in Paris-Roubaix but he has also mentioned the Italian monument as a race he would like to win. He is in excellent form at the moment and cannot be discounted.

    Mark Cavendish - $10

    So the Manx Missile has gone out from a $3.50 favourite a month ago to a $10 chance. Despite him being out of form, if he creeps out further it's tempting to have a nibble. That's what the books want. For you to have a nibble and give them money. Everyone knows I'm a huge fan of Cavendish and have been before he turned professional. If his odds do go out further, I will consider backing him as a small stake.

    Edvald Boasson-Hagen - $12

    EBH is class. No doubt about it. This guy is a good outsider to win the Green Jersey at the TDF this year. He can climb, he can sprint, he is a major talent. Two years ago I said that Cavendish could probably win about 5 - 6 Green Jersey's. Well this guy is his major threat over the coming years. He is a quality rider and is good value to get Sky another classics victory following Flecha's win two weekends ago in a semi classic, Omloop. Don't discount this guy. He's a very strong chance to win this.

    Philippe Gilbert - $12

    Watching over the last few weeks you get a sense that Gilbert is close to producing a win. He has declared that he wouldn't mind winning this race, but he also has other ambitions. For him to win, he needs to get away on the Poggio and he needs to bring Cancellara and Boasson-Hagen with him. He won't be able to do a solo break. No one will be able to do a solo break. Not with strong teams like Rabobank, Liquigas and Quick-Step aiming for wins. Throw in Garmin, Columbia and Lampre for Pettachi and you have a 98% chance of a sprint. Won't be his year.

    Oscar Freire - $12

    Freire is in excellent form. He has a couple wins next to his name already, 3 in fact. He hasn't shown much in Tirreno-Adriatico, but if he does go well in the sprinters stage tomorrow, he is a good chance of backing it up on Saturday here. Rabobank have a strong team for him and he is a very strong chance here. Definately over the odds.

    Heinrich Haussler - $15

    A few weeks ago, I was actually eyeing Haussler for this race. He was the pick of the peloton this time last year even though he was unable to break through for a win. He is injured and his major goal is going one better in Flanders. I don't think he will race here. If he does, it will be to get some good form for Flanders. However, in Omloop a few weeks ago, he had the same injury and rode exceptionally well.

    Alessandro Petacchi - $15

    This guy has hit form at the right time. He's a huge danger here and he has had some good performances this year thus far. If he was to win any big race this year, MSR would be the one.

    Filippo Pozzato - $17

    The Italian has had mixed form so far this year. In actual fact, he hasn't impressed me at all. Don't touch.

    Peter Sagan - $20

    For starters, he's only listed because he was the talk of Paris-Nice last week winning two stages as a neo-pro. Liquigas are riding for Bennati. Don't waste your money backing him. Hell, he isn't even named on their start list yet.

    Daniele Bennati - $20

    This is more like it. Bennati is most likely going to be my pick Each-way. He is generous odds and he is in form. Liquigas were bloody strong last week in Tirreno-Adriatico, dominating the train in the closing kilometres like Columbia do. They have screwed up a few finishes but they are a dominate force. Bennati should be single figures, or even around $12. Not $20. If Liquigas do get their train right, he wins this.

    Fabian Cancellara - $20

    Cancellara has expressed his intentions on winning Flanders. He won't win here unless a break gets away but as mentioned previously, with so many sprinters teams strong and determined to deliver their men to the line, his chances are slim.

    Thor Hushovd - $25

    He's easing into his season. I highly doubt he will win here. He may feature in the top three, but Cervelo haven't got their train working.

    Tyler Farrar - $28

    The American is over the odds. He has a strong team and he's in reasonable form. He has no trouble getting over the Poggio. He can feature and will. They say he's feeling great and if his team mates didn't drop off in the lowsy conditions in TA, he would have probably had a couple of wins.

    Allan Davis, Alessandro Ballan, Luis Leon Sanchez - $45

    No chance.

    Greg Henderson - $55

    He's won a couple times this year and he should have no troubles getting over the Poggio the way he has climbed this year. Won a brilliant stage in PN last week in crap conditions. Could feature.

    Gerald Ciolek - $55

    No chance.

    Lorenzetto, Breschel, Paolini, Loddo, Rodriguez

    The first four cannot be discounted, particularly Paolini, but don't hold your breath. They won't feature. Rodriguez will be riding for McEwen.

    Robbie McEwen - $65

    Robbie has displayed some excellent form this year and has shown he can climb well, something he hasn't done in the past. He's not known as a climber but he is in excellent form at the moment. An outside chance. His odds should be more around $40.

    Sylvain Chavanel, Sebastien Chavanel, Flecha, Avermaet - won't feature. Napolitano hasn't shown anything this year like he has other years.

    I think the winner will come from Bennati, Freire, Farrar and Boonen. I'm leaning Bennati.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 15, 2010 - 6:05 AM ET #2

    In case the price comes in. I'll back this now.

    .5 unit Bennati to win @ $20
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    In case the price comes in. I'll back this now.

    .5 unit Bennati to win @ $20
     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2010 - 9:41 PM ET #3

    Greipel maybe the second best sprinter, but it seems to be the odd man out at HTC. They want to keep Howard, so they have to lose one of Cav or Greipel.

    Can't have either here.

    I was really warning to Haussler for the classics, but he is out here and i don't know how it affects his other chances

    agred that Boone is looking elsewhere

    Boasson-Hagan is predicted to one day walk away with all 3 jerseys at the Tour. So he is a chance to win one this year. Sky have had an unbelievable start to the year.

    This race usually is a sprint finish, but if it doesn't I will be playing around with a small bet e/w on Pozzato. Former winner

    if it comes down to a sprint its a raffle
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    Greipel maybe the second best sprinter, but it seems to be the odd man out at HTC. They want to keep Howard, so they have to lose one of Cav or Greipel.

    Can't have either here.

    I was really warning to Haussler for the classics, but he is out here and i don't know how it affects his other chances

    agred that Boone is looking elsewhere

    Boasson-Hagan is predicted to one day walk away with all 3 jerseys at the Tour. So he is a chance to win one this year. Sky have had an unbelievable start to the year.

    This race usually is a sprint finish, but if it doesn't I will be playing around with a small bet e/w on Pozzato. Former winner

    if it comes down to a sprint its a raffle
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 2:36 AM ET #4

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    home from tough Tirreno, tired but form coming up. Not riding San Remo, team putting everything on Pippo Pozzato. next race Waregem
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    home from tough Tirreno, tired but form coming up. Not riding San Remo, team putting everything on Pippo Pozzato. next race Waregem
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 8:21 AM ET #5

    Cavendish is leaving when his contract expires. I have good connections.

    Leigh Howard is their future man. He will be their number 1 sprinter in a couple years.
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    Cavendish is leaving when his contract expires. I have good connections.

    Leigh Howard is their future man. He will be their number 1 sprinter in a couple years.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 8:21 AM ET #6

    After the performance last night, I'm thinking on doing a 360 and backing EBH. He's hit the
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    After the performance last night, I'm thinking on doing a 360 and backing EBH. He's hit the
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 8:22 AM ET #7

    He's hit the year with a bang
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    He's hit the year with a bang
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 8:27 AM ET #8

    If Mick Rogers has a good TDF I can also tell you that he will be looking elsewhere.
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    If Mick Rogers has a good TDF I can also tell you that he will be looking elsewhere.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 8:32 AM ET #9

    Mark Cavendish wrote off this morning a repeat win at his favourite one-day race, Milan-San Remo. Despite a week's racing at Tirreno-Adriatico in Italy, he is still paying for a lack of training in January.

    "I can't suffer like I used too," HTC-Columbia's sprinter told Cycling Weekly. "It's just on that redline of just suffering for six K up the Cipressa. That's that, I can't do it, I haven't got the form."

    Cavendish missed training and delayed the start to his season due to teeth problems. He has raced 14 days so far this year, without a win, but says he still lacks the "resilience" with only four days until Milan-San Remo.

    "San Remo is not about climbing, it is about resilience. You don't have to be a climber to win San Remo, you have to be resilient. It's about suffering. And you can't suffer without training. I can't suffer, that's the thing.

    "It is so easy sometimes to pop. You have to work really hard on your resilience. You have to be lean, [I am] not like last year. I am pretty good, I am as light as I was last year, but my power to weight [ratio] is not the same. I was stronger last year because I did a lot more training. I did not do as much training this January. I missed 2,000K, that's a lot."

    Cavendish is pushing on, though. He said that he is undeterred by news pieces written or comments from his rivals, he has respect for the race and will take pride in wearing the number 1 of defending champion.

    "I respect the race," continued Cavendish. "Milano-San Remo is a f*****g hard race.

    "It is like those people who say they don't want it to end in a bunch sprint. It is never a bunch sprint, it is 20 guys. The guys have so much respect for that race - training, diet - that shows how much respect they have for the race.

    "It is a shame that I can't go in saying 'I want to win, I want to win.' That would have been the nicest thing. I love it, it is my favourite one day race. Just how the story unfolds, for me, for the others sprinters, for the climbers, for the spectators: it is the tension, the build up to the finish. 'They will or they won't', 'they will or they won't' all the way to the finish, for the last 100K, that is the great thing about it."

    Cavendish surprised many winning last year in his debut, becoming only the fourth rider to do so behind Gabriele Colombo (1996), Eddy Merckx (1966) and Gaetano Belloni (1917). He won the final day's stage of Tirreno prior to San Remo, as well. This year, though, he never figured in this year's Tirreno sprints and even crashed in the finale of today's stage, suffering scrapes and bruises.

    Despite Cavendish's denial, his teeth problems and today's crash, pundits still consider him a favourite to win.

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    The guy said last year he wasn't a chance to win. I'm not writing him off. I'm just not backing him......yet.......


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    Mark Cavendish wrote off this morning a repeat win at his favourite one-day race, Milan-San Remo. Despite a week's racing at Tirreno-Adriatico in Italy, he is still paying for a lack of training in January.

    "I can't suffer like I used too," HTC-Columbia's sprinter told Cycling Weekly. "It's just on that redline of just suffering for six K up the Cipressa. That's that, I can't do it, I haven't got the form."

    Cavendish missed training and delayed the start to his season due to teeth problems. He has raced 14 days so far this year, without a win, but says he still lacks the "resilience" with only four days until Milan-San Remo.

    "San Remo is not about climbing, it is about resilience. You don't have to be a climber to win San Remo, you have to be resilient. It's about suffering. And you can't suffer without training. I can't suffer, that's the thing.

    "It is so easy sometimes to pop. You have to work really hard on your resilience. You have to be lean, [I am] not like last year. I am pretty good, I am as light as I was last year, but my power to weight [ratio] is not the same. I was stronger last year because I did a lot more training. I did not do as much training this January. I missed 2,000K, that's a lot."

    Cavendish is pushing on, though. He said that he is undeterred by news pieces written or comments from his rivals, he has respect for the race and will take pride in wearing the number 1 of defending champion.

    "I respect the race," continued Cavendish. "Milano-San Remo is a f*****g hard race.

    "It is like those people who say they don't want it to end in a bunch sprint. It is never a bunch sprint, it is 20 guys. The guys have so much respect for that race - training, diet - that shows how much respect they have for the race.

    "It is a shame that I can't go in saying 'I want to win, I want to win.' That would have been the nicest thing. I love it, it is my favourite one day race. Just how the story unfolds, for me, for the others sprinters, for the climbers, for the spectators: it is the tension, the build up to the finish. 'They will or they won't', 'they will or they won't' all the way to the finish, for the last 100K, that is the great thing about it."

    Cavendish surprised many winning last year in his debut, becoming only the fourth rider to do so behind Gabriele Colombo (1996), Eddy Merckx (1966) and Gaetano Belloni (1917). He won the final day's stage of Tirreno prior to San Remo, as well. This year, though, he never figured in this year's Tirreno sprints and even crashed in the finale of today's stage, suffering scrapes and bruises.

    Despite Cavendish's denial, his teeth problems and today's crash, pundits still consider him a favourite to win.

    -------------------------------------------------

    The guy said last year he wasn't a chance to win. I'm not writing him off. I'm just not backing him......yet.......


     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 8:53 PM ET #10

    Is Boassan Hagan seasoned for a 300km event and a bunch sprint? the kid nearly got run down by Sacha Modolo, and I think Farrar could have snatched that. He has had a long start to the season.

    The italians were just topping themselves off for this week
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    Is Boassan Hagan seasoned for a 300km event and a bunch sprint? the kid nearly got run down by Sacha Modolo, and I think Farrar could have snatched that. He has had a long start to the season.

    The italians were just topping themselves off for this week
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 9:20 PM ET #11

    Cav is looking to peak at the TdF and Worlds.Too early in the season for me
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    Cav is looking to peak at the TdF and Worlds.Too early in the season for me
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2010 - 9:45 PM ET #12

    The World's course will not go to a sprinter and Columbia know it. They know it's going to be too tough for Cav.

    Yes. Cav is peaking for the TDF and the World's but he has no chance at the World's.

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    The World's course will not go to a sprinter and Columbia know it. They know it's going to be too tough for Cav.

    Yes. Cav is peaking for the TDF and the World's but he has no chance at the World's.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2010 - 9:39 PM ET #13

    Got this before and it's moved in.

    7 units Freire over Farrar @ $1.72


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    Got this before and it's moved in.

    7 units Freire over Farrar @ $1.72


     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2010 - 1:40 AM ET #14

    The odds on SportingBet are fucking poo... Have you seen em Bolar?...
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    The odds on SportingBet are fucking poo... Have you seen em Bolar?...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2010 - 1:41 AM ET #15

    Cav is at 16's though...
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    Cav is at 16's though...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2010 - 2:36 AM ET #16

    Yes I have.

    Why are they poo?

    Freire is at $13
    Bennati is at $11

    Both should be single figures.
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    Yes I have.

    Why are they poo?

    Freire is at $13
    Bennati is at $11

    Both should be single figures.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2010 - 2:38 AM ET #17

    There is heaps of value. You can back one and hedge a couple others and still come out with a massive profit if one of them wins.
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    There is heaps of value. You can back one and hedge a couple others and still come out with a massive profit if one of them wins.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2010 - 7:14 AM ET #18

    Boonen at $9 is also excellent value.

    The guy could win MSR, PR and Flanders.
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    Boonen at $9 is also excellent value.

    The guy could win MSR, PR and Flanders.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2010 - 9:08 PM ET #19

    2 units Boonen @ $9

    .5 unit Cavendish @ $16
    .5 unit Freire @ $15

    3 units Pozzato over Gilbert @ $1.70
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    2 units Boonen @ $9

    .5 unit Cavendish @ $16
    .5 unit Freire @ $15

    3 units Pozzato over Gilbert @ $1.70
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2010 - 9:58 PM ET #20

    Goin with the Cav at big odds...


    Mark Cavendish @ $16



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    Goin with the Cav at big odds...


    Mark Cavendish @ $16



     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2010 - 1:59 AM ET #21

    2 units Hushovd over Rojas @ $2.10
    3 units Paolini over Bonnet @ $1.65
    3 units Freire over Davis @ $1.56

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    2 units Hushovd over Rojas @ $2.10
    3 units Paolini over Bonnet @ $1.65
    3 units Freire over Davis @ $1.56

     
    Bolar
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2010 - 9:32 AM ET #22

    All over for Cavendish
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    All over for Cavendish
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2010 - 10:08 AM ET #23

    In-play - 90 odd km to go. Bennati is in the last group. Boonen is in the front.

    5 units Boonen over Bennati @ $1.70
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    In-play - 90 odd km to go. Bennati is in the last group. Boonen is in the front.

    5 units Boonen over Bennati @ $1.70
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2010 - 11:26 AM ET #24

    Cav looking comfortable. See what the Poggio holds for him.
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    Cav looking comfortable. See what the Poggio holds for him.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2010 - 11:36 AM ET #25

    Cav dropped. Doesn't look good for him on the Poggio when it comes. game over!
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    Cav dropped. Doesn't look good for him on the Poggio when it comes. game over!
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