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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2009 - 11:54 AM ET #1

    The mens time trial gets underway on Thursday. I'll have previews/plays closer to that time.
     
    The last few weeks I've ridden a high. +53 units from the Vuelta. My form is there. Hopefully I carry it on.
     
    Follow mine and/or Nick's bets and you will make a profit.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    The mens time trial gets underway on Thursday. I'll have previews/plays closer to that time.
     
    The last few weeks I've ridden a high. +53 units from the Vuelta. My form is there. Hopefully I carry it on.
     
    Follow mine and/or Nick's bets and you will make a profit.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 11:11 PM ET #2

    There's a 10 % grade climb in the middle on the circuit.  Just wondering if Contador can really beat Cancellara on home field ?

    Andy Shleck will be strong on the road race and I think Frank might not finish it.

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    The start and finish are in the same location as the weekend road races. After 1,930 m the course turns into the Via Vignalunga, the home stretch of the 1971 road race won by Eddy Merckx.

    At 3.140 km a gentle descent of 2,290 m into the village of Capolago begins. After a level section of 1,790 m between Capolago and Riva San Vitale, the road climbs gently for 730 m.

    After a further level section and a gentle 950 m climb, there follows a tough 650 m ascent with gradients of up to 10% at Rossa di Rancate. The athletes then ride through the villages of Rancate, Ligornetto, Stabio and Genestrerio on long straight sections with gentle climbs (5,940 m).

    The section between Genestrerio and the finish is identical to the last kilometre of the road race.
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    If you can find a detailled map on the TT, please post the link.
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    There's a 10 % grade climb in the middle on the circuit.  Just wondering if Contador can really beat Cancellara on home field ?

    Andy Shleck will be strong on the road race and I think Frank might not finish it.

    "
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    The start and finish are in the same location as the weekend road races. After 1,930 m the course turns into the Via Vignalunga, the home stretch of the 1971 road race won by Eddy Merckx.

    At 3.140 km a gentle descent of 2,290 m into the village of Capolago begins. After a level section of 1,790 m between Capolago and Riva San Vitale, the road climbs gently for 730 m.

    After a further level section and a gentle 950 m climb, there follows a tough 650 m ascent with gradients of up to 10% at Rossa di Rancate. The athletes then ride through the villages of Rancate, Ligornetto, Stabio and Genestrerio on long straight sections with gentle climbs (5,940 m).

    The section between Genestrerio and the finish is identical to the last kilometre of the road race.
    "

    If you can find a detailled map on the TT, please post the link.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 1:29 AM ET #3

    Mens Under 23 Time Trial
     
    I'm going to play it safe and later on play Kittel for top 3. I will also put something on him to win.
     
    Womens Elite Time Trial
     
    Amber Neben I'll more than likely play top three and it will be a large bet. Judith Arndt may squeeze into top three.
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    Mens Under 23 Time Trial
     
    I'm going to play it safe and later on play Kittel for top 3. I will also put something on him to win.
     
    Womens Elite Time Trial
     
    Amber Neben I'll more than likely play top three and it will be a large bet. Judith Arndt may squeeze into top three.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 3:46 AM ET #4

    .3 units Kittel to win @ $8.30

    2 units Kittel to place @ $2

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    .3 units Kittel to win @ $8.30

    2 units Kittel to place @ $2

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 6:20 AM ET #5

    Well that didn't work. Tha'ts why it was small.
     
    Jack Bobridge is on a doping program. He has 8kg overweight just over a month ago.
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    Well that didn't work. Tha'ts why it was small.
     
    Jack Bobridge is on a doping program. He has 8kg overweight just over a month ago.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 6:41 AM ET #6

    Arndt to place @ $2.20 - 3 units.
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    Arndt to place @ $2.20 - 3 units.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 8:35 AM ET #7

    What's going on with the books...Cancellara is at 1.25 to win all.

    I know he's strong but, it's still a bike race, a bad day happens.
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    What's going on with the books...Cancellara is at 1.25 to win all.

    I know he's strong but, it's still a bike race, a bad day happens.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 8:51 AM ET #8

    Where is this at?
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    Where is this at?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 9:01 AM ET #9

    Interesting.
     
    H2H matchups. I'll be taking these tonight.
     
    1.41 Martin over Vino is worth a bet.
     
    Wiggins and Martin are over the odds. Boasson-Hagen is a chance too.
     
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    Interesting.
     
    H2H matchups. I'll be taking these tonight.
     
    1.41 Martin over Vino is worth a bet.
     
    Wiggins and Martin are over the odds. Boasson-Hagen is a chance too.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 9:02 AM ET #10

    Thinking a 10 unit bet on Martin.
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    Thinking a 10 unit bet on Martin.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 9:03 AM ET #11

    Cancellara is too short, but he will win. That climb is nothing. It's not going to stop him. But it does help Tony Martin.
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    Cancellara is too short, but he will win. That climb is nothing. It's not going to stop him. But it does help Tony Martin.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 4:13 PM ET #12

    I really think Martin can do well.  The big guns like Wiggins and Grabsh deserve a bet for a top 3 finish.

    I don't think Larsson will do well, neither Vinokourov.

    Martin @ 1.33 over Vino is given money.

    Boom over Rabon @ 1.83 sounds good

    H2H all have big favourite, it's a bit weird.

    Waiting for Pinnacle to release their odds.


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    I really think Martin can do well.  The big guns like Wiggins and Grabsh deserve a bet for a top 3 finish.

    I don't think Larsson will do well, neither Vinokourov.

    Martin @ 1.33 over Vino is given money.

    Boom over Rabon @ 1.83 sounds good

    H2H all have big favourite, it's a bit weird.

    Waiting for Pinnacle to release their odds.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 7:25 PM ET #13

    Boasson-Hagen top 3 is nice value. I will be on it.
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    Boasson-Hagen top 3 is nice value. I will be on it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 7:25 PM ET #14

    With my luck, he'll come 4th, like the other two bets in Kittel and Arndt. haha
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    With my luck, he'll come 4th, like the other two bets in Kittel and Arndt. haha
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 1:07 AM ET #15

    .5 unit Boasson-Hagen top 3 @ $12
    1 unit Martin top 3 @ $9
    .5 unit Ignatiev top 3 @ $9
     
    One of them should get top 3. Those are value bets more than anything. Martin is over the odds. As is Boasson-Hagen. Ignatiev's price is very nice.
     
    7 units Martin over Vinokourov @ $1.35
    5 units Clement over Danielson @ $1.57
    2 units Kiriyenka over Brajkovic @ $1.60
    3 units Boasson-Hagen over Vinokourov @ $1.65
     
    Martin should have Vinokourov's measure. Clement should have Danielson's measure considering Danielson has been sick. Kiriyenka should be too strong for Brajkovic and Boasson-Hagen should have Vinokourov's measure.
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    .5 unit Boasson-Hagen top 3 @ $12
    1 unit Martin top 3 @ $9
    .5 unit Ignatiev top 3 @ $9
     
    One of them should get top 3. Those are value bets more than anything. Martin is over the odds. As is Boasson-Hagen. Ignatiev's price is very nice.
     
    7 units Martin over Vinokourov @ $1.35
    5 units Clement over Danielson @ $1.57
    2 units Kiriyenka over Brajkovic @ $1.60
    3 units Boasson-Hagen over Vinokourov @ $1.65
     
    Martin should have Vinokourov's measure. Clement should have Danielson's measure considering Danielson has been sick. Kiriyenka should be too strong for Brajkovic and Boasson-Hagen should have Vinokourov's measure.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 1:08 AM ET #16

    There was a mistake there.
     
    1 unit Boasson-Hagen top 3 @ $12
    1 unit Martin top 3 @ $9
    .5 unit Ignatiev top 3 @ $9
     
     
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    There was a mistake there.
     
    1 unit Boasson-Hagen top 3 @ $12
    1 unit Martin top 3 @ $9
    .5 unit Ignatiev top 3 @ $9
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 2:34 AM ET #17

    8 units Tuft over Kiriyenka @ $1.85
     
    Love this bet. Absolutely love it.
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    8 units Tuft over Kiriyenka @ $1.85
     
    Love this bet. Absolutely love it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 4:49 AM ET #18

    Okay
     
    I placed the rest of the bets before.
     
    My final plays:
     
    H2H
     
    5 units Tuft over Kiriyenka @ $1.85
    7 units Martin over Vinokourov @ $1.35
    5 units Clement over Danielson @ $1.57
    3 units Boasson-Hagen over Vinokourov @ $1.65
    2 units Kiryenka over Brajkovic @ $1.60
     
    Top 3 - Value bets
     
    1 unit Boasson- Hagen @ $12
    1 unit Martin @ $9
    .5 unit Ignatiev @ $9
    .5 unit Zirbel @ $20
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    Okay
     
    I placed the rest of the bets before.
     
    My final plays:
     
    H2H
     
    5 units Tuft over Kiriyenka @ $1.85
    7 units Martin over Vinokourov @ $1.35
    5 units Clement over Danielson @ $1.57
    3 units Boasson-Hagen over Vinokourov @ $1.65
    2 units Kiryenka over Brajkovic @ $1.60
     
    Top 3 - Value bets
     
    1 unit Boasson- Hagen @ $12
    1 unit Martin @ $9
    .5 unit Ignatiev @ $9
    .5 unit Zirbel @ $20
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 4:53 AM ET #19

    1 unit Wiggins to win @ $11 - Another Value. He may not win, he probably won't win, but Cancellara is way too small considering that Wiggins;
     
    1. Is soley focusing on the Time Trial
    2. Cancellara has both the Time Trial and Road Race in mind.
     
    To explain my bets:
     
    Kiryenka just completed a Grand Tour. Tuft should be too strong for him.
    Martin should be too strong for Vinokourov
    Danielson is recovering from illness, this is a good bet.
    Boasson-Hagen is a risk, but again, it's more about fading Vinokourov than anything.
    Kiryenka should have enough to beat Brajkovic.
     
    I was going to put a Martin over Vinokourov and Wiggins over his opponent parlay but decided not to.
     
    I suggest if anyone is following these plays, look at that multi I mentioned above.
     
    There is so much value in top 3.
     
    44 12:39:00 ZIRBEL Tom USA
    13 15:31:00 IGNATIEV Mikhail RUS
    12 15:32:00 BOOM Lars NED
    9 15:35:00 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald NOR
    5 15:39:00 MARTIN Tony GER
    4 15:40:00 WIGGINS Bradley GBR
    3 15:41:00 LARSSON Gustav SWE
    2 15:42:00 CANCELLARA Fabian SUI
    1 15:43:00 GRABSCH Bert GER
    LANG Sebastien
     
    3 of those riders will podium. It's a very weak field.
     
    Grabsch is going to struggle I feel. He won't make top 5.
     
    My top 5 predictions.
     
    1. Cancellara
    2. Wiggins
    3. Boasson-Hagen
    4. Martin
    5. Ignatiev
     
     
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    1 unit Wiggins to win @ $11 - Another Value. He may not win, he probably won't win, but Cancellara is way too small considering that Wiggins;
     
    1. Is soley focusing on the Time Trial
    2. Cancellara has both the Time Trial and Road Race in mind.
     
    To explain my bets:
     
    Kiryenka just completed a Grand Tour. Tuft should be too strong for him.
    Martin should be too strong for Vinokourov
    Danielson is recovering from illness, this is a good bet.
    Boasson-Hagen is a risk, but again, it's more about fading Vinokourov than anything.
    Kiryenka should have enough to beat Brajkovic.
     
    I was going to put a Martin over Vinokourov and Wiggins over his opponent parlay but decided not to.
     
    I suggest if anyone is following these plays, look at that multi I mentioned above.
     
    There is so much value in top 3.
     
    44 12:39:00 ZIRBEL Tom USA
    13 15:31:00 IGNATIEV Mikhail RUS
    12 15:32:00 BOOM Lars NED
    9 15:35:00 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald NOR
    5 15:39:00 MARTIN Tony GER
    4 15:40:00 WIGGINS Bradley GBR
    3 15:41:00 LARSSON Gustav SWE
    2 15:42:00 CANCELLARA Fabian SUI
    1 15:43:00 GRABSCH Bert GER
    LANG Sebastien
     
    3 of those riders will podium. It's a very weak field.
     
    Grabsch is going to struggle I feel. He won't make top 5.
     
    My top 5 predictions.
     
    1. Cancellara
    2. Wiggins
    3. Boasson-Hagen
    4. Martin
    5. Ignatiev
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 6:04 AM ET #20

    According to what I know, here are my live in play bets on bwin.

    Group winner : Wiggins over Grabsch, Larsson and Ignatiev @2.75

    Boom over Kiryenka @ 2.40

    Tuft over Brajkovic @ 1.75

    Hagen over Ignatiev @ 1.72

    All 2.5 units bet, I might add some more after my bike ride.  I'll be back in about two hours.
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    According to what I know, here are my live in play bets on bwin.

    Group winner : Wiggins over Grabsch, Larsson and Ignatiev @2.75

    Boom over Kiryenka @ 2.40

    Tuft over Brajkovic @ 1.75

    Hagen over Ignatiev @ 1.72

    All 2.5 units bet, I might add some more after my bike ride.  I'll be back in about two hours.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 6:06 AM ET #21

    Hagen over Igantiev

    The Russian is definate top 5 material.

    We obviously both rate Hagen high today.

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    Hagen over Igantiev

    The Russian is definate top 5 material.

    We obviously both rate Hagen high today.

     
    Bolar
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 7:26 AM ET #22

     None of the big guns are out yet, but Zirbell is posting a brilliant time.
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     None of the big guns are out yet, but Zirbell is posting a brilliant time.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 7:39 AM ET #23

    Do you remember Armstrong's odd to win yesterday women TT ?
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    Do you remember Armstrong's odd to win yesterday women TT ?
     
    n1ck
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 8:02 AM ET #24

    Wiggins will have an avantage over all contenders with the 10% 600 m climb, he's probably the best climber who can ride a TT.

    If Cancellara fails, Wiggins will win it.

    We all know  Cancellara's power, they are offering a over/under 1 minute margin...can he really win a that much ?
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    Wiggins will have an avantage over all contenders with the 10% 600 m climb, he's probably the best climber who can ride a TT.

    If Cancellara fails, Wiggins will win it.

    We all know  Cancellara's power, they are offering a over/under 1 minute margin...can he really win a that much ?
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 8:19 AM ET #25

    Where is this? He will win by under a minute. What odds is it?
     
    It will be 40 seconds at most.
     
    Armstrong was around $10.
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    Where is this? He will win by under a minute. What odds is it?
     
    It will be 40 seconds at most.
     
    Armstrong was around $10.
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