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    Breadman7
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 12:51 AM ET #1

    Im really thinking Green Moon wins this.

    Can run a strong 2000mtr and can do work at the same time.

    Pierro has to be suspect over this distance as to the other of gai's Prosir.

    And williams on board is a huge +.

    Still having nightmares from him getting pinker home last year. Had Jimmy going for a fortune last year.

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Im really thinking Green Moon wins this.

    Can run a strong 2000mtr and can do work at the same time.

    Pierro has to be suspect over this distance as to the other of gai's Prosir.

    And williams on board is a huge +.

    Still having nightmares from him getting pinker home last year. Had Jimmy going for a fortune last year.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 1:11 AM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman7:

    Im really thinking Green Moon wins this.

    Can run a strong 2000mtr and can do work at the same time.

    Pierro has to be suspect over this distance as to the other of gai's Prosir.

    And williams on board is a huge +.

    Still having nightmares from him getting pinker home last year. Had Jimmy going for a fortune last year.

     


    For me barrier draw is huge, If Pierro draws in close ill have him clearly on top. He had to work hard early last start and still showed a lot of fight, ATH has a ton of ability but last race was run to suit, And your right Green Moon will certainly run a strong 2000

    It's a joke how short OP is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman7:

    Im really thinking Green Moon wins this.

    Can run a strong 2000mtr and can do work at the same time.

    Pierro has to be suspect over this distance as to the other of gai's Prosir.

    And williams on board is a huge +.

    Still having nightmares from him getting pinker home last year. Had Jimmy going for a fortune last year.

     


    For me barrier draw is huge, If Pierro draws in close ill have him clearly on top. He had to work hard early last start and still showed a lot of fight, ATH has a ton of ability but last race was run to suit, And your right Green Moon will certainly run a strong 2000

    It's a joke how short OP is
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 1:33 AM ET #3

    Yes mate. Cant have OP at this stage. Only got into a few of the runners though. ATH could be in my quin as im sure he will run it out. Is he seasoned enough? Great trainer and know hows to look after horses rather than run the shit out of them like Gai does. Ethiopa is one im looking at for a roughy but not sure he will get a run or not. I do think field should be limited to 10 max. Wonder if Aces champion will get a run?
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    Yes mate. Cant have OP at this stage. Only got into a few of the runners though. ATH could be in my quin as im sure he will run it out. Is he seasoned enough? Great trainer and know hows to look after horses rather than run the shit out of them like Gai does. Ethiopa is one im looking at for a roughy but not sure he will get a run or not. I do think field should be limited to 10 max. Wonder if Aces champion will get a run?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 2:01 AM ET #4

    I do like Green Moon also,should sit just off the pace and be difficult to beat

    Put the pen through

    More Joyous
    All Too Hard
    Ocean Park

    Dark horse

    Proisir.This horse has untapped talent

    Has run over the distance unlike the other 3 year olds(ATH,Pierro)

    Best outsiders

    Rekindled Plod
    Ethiopia




    I can't decide on Pierro's chances












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    I do like Green Moon also,should sit just off the pace and be difficult to beat

    Put the pen through

    More Joyous
    All Too Hard
    Ocean Park

    Dark horse

    Proisir.This horse has untapped talent

    Has run over the distance unlike the other 3 year olds(ATH,Pierro)

    Best outsiders

    Rekindled Plod
    Ethiopia




    I can't decide on Pierro's chances












     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 2:08 AM ET #5

    Rekindled Plod should have won the Cox Plate last year,old mate Efficient and King's Rose crash tackled him into a sandwich nearing the home turn,still got up to run a close 3rd.
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    Rekindled Plod should have won the Cox Plate last year,old mate Efficient and King's Rose crash tackled him into a sandwich nearing the home turn,still got up to run a close 3rd.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 2:12 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:


    For me barrier draw is huge





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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:


    For me barrier draw is huge





     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 2:40 AM ET #7

    With Proisir I thought he should of won the spring champion to be a chance in the cox. Although the weight relief would make up for a few lengths. Ok I might add him into my quin thoughts. Feel there is value this year to be had especially with GM being 9/2 at the moment. I hope he draws wide......I mean that....better being out there then cramped up on the fence with the weight he will have.
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    With Proisir I thought he should of won the spring champion to be a chance in the cox. Although the weight relief would make up for a few lengths. Ok I might add him into my quin thoughts. Feel there is value this year to be had especially with GM being 9/2 at the moment. I hope he draws wide......I mean that....better being out there then cramped up on the fence with the weight he will have.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 6:25 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Rekindled Plod should have won the Cox Plate last year,old mate Efficient and King's Rose crash tackled him into a sandwich nearing the home turn,still got up to run a close 3rd.

     I fucking love that filthy grey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Rekindled Plod should have won the Cox Plate last year,old mate Efficient and King's Rose crash tackled him into a sandwich nearing the home turn,still got up to run a close 3rd.

     I fucking love that filthy grey

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 7:31 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman7:

    With Proisir I thought he should of won the spring champion to be a chance in the cox. Although the weight relief would make up for a few lengths. Ok I might add him into my quin thoughts. Feel there is value this year to be had especially with GM being 9/2 at the moment. I hope he draws wide......I mean that....better being out there then cramped up on the fence with the weight he will have.

    Proisir was ridden upside down that day though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman7:

    With Proisir I thought he should of won the spring champion to be a chance in the cox. Although the weight relief would make up for a few lengths. Ok I might add him into my quin thoughts. Feel there is value this year to be had especially with GM being 9/2 at the moment. I hope he draws wide......I mean that....better being out there then cramped up on the fence with the weight he will have.

    Proisir was ridden upside down that day though
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 7:40 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    I do like Green Moon also,should sit just off the pace and be difficult to beat

    Put the pen through

    More Joyous
    All Too Hard
    Ocean Park

    Dark horse

    Proisir.This horse has untapped talent

    Has run over the distance unlike the other 3 year olds(ATH,Pierro)

    Best outsiders

    Rekindled Plod
    Ethiopia 




    I can't decide on Pierro's chances












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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    I do like Green Moon also,should sit just off the pace and be difficult to beat

    Put the pen through

    More Joyous
    All Too Hard
    Ocean Park

    Dark horse

    Proisir.This horse has untapped talent

    Has run over the distance unlike the other 3 year olds(ATH,Pierro)

    Best outsiders

    Rekindled Plod
    Ethiopia 




    I can't decide on Pierro's chances












     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 8:12 AM ET #11

    If ATH pulls up well after the cox love to see him go round in the Derby, He would give it one hell of a shake
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    If ATH pulls up well after the cox love to see him go round in the Derby, He would give it one hell of a shake
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 7:59 PM ET #12

    The last 3 year old back marker to win the Cox Plate was Octagonal in 1995,is All Too Hard in the Big O class


    The last two 3 year olds who won the Cox Plate(So You Think,Savabeel) raced up near the pace
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    The last 3 year old back marker to win the Cox Plate was Octagonal in 1995,is All Too Hard in the Big O class


    The last two 3 year olds who won the Cox Plate(So You Think,Savabeel) raced up near the pace
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 8:07 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    The last 3 year old back marker to win the Cox Plate was Octagonal in 1995,is All Too Hard in the Big O class


    The last two 3 year olds who won the Cox Plate(So You Think,Savabeel) raced up near the pace

    Didn't some girl butcher miss finland as a 3 yearold? or am i thinking of someone eles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    The last 3 year old back marker to win the Cox Plate was Octagonal in 1995,is All Too Hard in the Big O class


    The last two 3 year olds who won the Cox Plate(So You Think,Savabeel) raced up near the pace

    Didn't some girl butcher miss finland as a 3 yearold? or am i thinking of someone eles
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 8:13 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:


    Didn't some girl butcher miss finland as a 3 yearold? or am i thinking of someone eles


    I think it was that Kiwi bitch Lisa Cropp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:


    Didn't some girl butcher miss finland as a 3 yearold? or am i thinking of someone eles


    I think it was that Kiwi bitch Lisa Cropp
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 10:19 PM ET #15

    Just took Pierro at $4, Barrier 7 
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    Just took Pierro at $4, Barrier 7 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 11:55 PM ET #16

    GL lucky. I love 5 for GM.....I took $5.50 already.

    Poor Ace. RI drew 1....going to get more than crash tackled this year!!

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    GL lucky. I love 5 for GM.....I took $5.50 already.

    Poor Ace. RI drew 1....going to get more than crash tackled this year!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 12:41 AM ET #17

    I could of sworn they were going to scratch Sincero, He proved last start he couldn't run 2000m. Waste of space as is Linton, Happy Trails, Southern Speed and Rekindled Interest  In fact i think they should bring Helmet back from overseas to take RI spot 
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    I could of sworn they were going to scratch Sincero, He proved last start he couldn't run 2000m. Waste of space as is Linton, Happy Trails, Southern Speed and Rekindled Interest  In fact i think they should bring Helmet back from overseas to take RI spot 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 7:16 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:

    I could of sworn they were going to scratch Sincero, He proved last start he couldn't run 2000m. Waste of space as is Linton, Happy Trails, Southern Speed and Rekindled Interest  In fact i think they should bring Helmet back from overseas to take RI spot 









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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:

    I could of sworn they were going to scratch Sincero, He proved last start he couldn't run 2000m. Waste of space as is Linton, Happy Trails, Southern Speed and Rekindled Interest  In fact i think they should bring Helmet back from overseas to take RI spot 









     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 6:16 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:


    Didn't some girl butcher miss finland as a 3 yearold? or am i thinking of someone eles

    Samantha Miss ran a good third a few years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylunchbox:


    Didn't some girl butcher miss finland as a 3 yearold? or am i thinking of someone eles

    Samantha Miss ran a good third a few years ago

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 6:22 AM ET #20

    The Cox Plate is my favourite race in the racing calendar.

    Loves the Cox Plate does the Battler 

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    The Cox Plate is my favourite race in the racing calendar.

    Loves the Cox Plate does the Battler 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 5:14 PM ET #21

    The more i look at pierro's runs the more Im sure it cant run 2000mtr in this grade.

    Agree Proisir has untapped ability but for mine after watching it race it is on running truly. Hanging and uncomfortable in its action. Big ask to win a cox plate in its first prep.

    Shoot Out. Won a derby and couldnt quicken in donny under that weight. I like it over 2000mtr and will def go into my quin.

    ATH. this has me scratching my head. Unbeaten in melb. Jumped out last time. Def peaking at the right time. Have to put it in now.

    Ethiopa. I just have a real feeling for this horse. I just wished it had 1 more run going into it. But at the odds im going to put it in as well.

    So backing Green Moon.....

    Quinella boxed with All Too Hard, Shoot Out and Ethiopa.

    GL everyone with your bets.

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    The more i look at pierro's runs the more Im sure it cant run 2000mtr in this grade.

    Agree Proisir has untapped ability but for mine after watching it race it is on running truly. Hanging and uncomfortable in its action. Big ask to win a cox plate in its first prep.

    Shoot Out. Won a derby and couldnt quicken in donny under that weight. I like it over 2000mtr and will def go into my quin.

    ATH. this has me scratching my head. Unbeaten in melb. Jumped out last time. Def peaking at the right time. Have to put it in now.

    Ethiopa. I just have a real feeling for this horse. I just wished it had 1 more run going into it. But at the odds im going to put it in as well.

    So backing Green Moon.....

    Quinella boxed with All Too Hard, Shoot Out and Ethiopa.

    GL everyone with your bets.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 7:06 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman7:

    The more i look at pierro's runs the more Im sure it cant run 2000mtr in this grade.

    Agree Proisir has untapped ability but for mine after watching it race it is on running truly. Hanging and uncomfortable in its action. Big ask to win a cox plate in its first prep.

    Shoot Out. Won a derby and couldnt quicken in donny under that weight. I like it over 2000mtr and will def go into my quin.

    ATH. this has me scratching my head. Unbeaten in melb. Jumped out last time. Def peaking at the right time. Have to put it in now.

    Ethiopa. I just have a real feeling for this horse. I just wished it had 1 more run going into it. But at the odds im going to put it in as well.

    So backing Green Moon.....

    Quinella boxed with All Too Hard, Shoot Out and Ethiopa.

    GL everyone with your bets.


    You may well be right about Pierro not running the 2000 although i think he will. But other than his last race he has always been strong to the line. He was over worked early then was a sitting duck but it still took ATH the entire straight to get him. He doesn't pull and travels beautifully

    What are you seeing that makes you think he can't?

    i would have liked ATH more if Dunn was still on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman7:

    The more i look at pierro's runs the more Im sure it cant run 2000mtr in this grade.

    Agree Proisir has untapped ability but for mine after watching it race it is on running truly. Hanging and uncomfortable in its action. Big ask to win a cox plate in its first prep.

    Shoot Out. Won a derby and couldnt quicken in donny under that weight. I like it over 2000mtr and will def go into my quin.

    ATH. this has me scratching my head. Unbeaten in melb. Jumped out last time. Def peaking at the right time. Have to put it in now.

    Ethiopa. I just have a real feeling for this horse. I just wished it had 1 more run going into it. But at the odds im going to put it in as well.

    So backing Green Moon.....

    Quinella boxed with All Too Hard, Shoot Out and Ethiopa.

    GL everyone with your bets.


    You may well be right about Pierro not running the 2000 although i think he will. But other than his last race he has always been strong to the line. He was over worked early then was a sitting duck but it still took ATH the entire straight to get him. He doesn't pull and travels beautifully

    What are you seeing that makes you think he can't?

    i would have liked ATH more if Dunn was still on it

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2012 - 12:14 AM ET #23

    Ethiopa from $26 into $19...

    Pierro....Ok mate all of it wins have been done get easy runs. Even the slipper they ran the something like the 10th slowest first 600 mtr and it sat on the fence doing no work. All of the wins as a 2 year old were walkathons. The one time there was pressure it got beat. Who by? ATH. Now ATH is $10. What type of pressure will there be in this Cox Plate? Like every Cox from the 800mtr its on for young and old. Remember he will be leading or pushing for the lead early and then do another run. As of now it hasnt made 2 runs in race except for the the time he got beat. Lucky just the way I see the race through my eyes. Im in no way saying it cant win. But I cant back him myself.

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    Ethiopa from $26 into $19...

    Pierro....Ok mate all of it wins have been done get easy runs. Even the slipper they ran the something like the 10th slowest first 600 mtr and it sat on the fence doing no work. All of the wins as a 2 year old were walkathons. The one time there was pressure it got beat. Who by? ATH. Now ATH is $10. What type of pressure will there be in this Cox Plate? Like every Cox from the 800mtr its on for young and old. Remember he will be leading or pushing for the lead early and then do another run. As of now it hasnt made 2 runs in race except for the the time he got beat. Lucky just the way I see the race through my eyes. Im in no way saying it cant win. But I cant back him myself.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2012 - 2:09 AM ET #24

    bready any thoughts on the netball tonight?
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    bready any thoughts on the netball tonight?
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2012 - 2:13 AM ET #25

    No davo. Mismatch and intensity might not be there. If your desperate a lean to the over.
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    No davo. Mismatch and intensity might not be there. If your desperate a lean to the over.
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