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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2015 - 4:05 AM ET #1

    m having difficulties getting a feel for these match-ups, too. Although I lean Roos to win, so will likely take them as a dog.

    Cursory thoughts to date for me...

    Hawthorn v. Adelaide
    Hawks will win this, but boy does 22+ make me uneasy with this team. On the one hand, they haven't gone consecutive weeks with a loss in the ATS column. Crows are 5 straight ATS wins, which indicates a fall back in the near future. Hawks have more experience, and will bring the (notably much-less-reliable of late) focus needed to win by a few goals or more imo. Also, Tin has them winning by 29 pts, which is the "magic" margin historically for a high percentage of win chance. On the other hand, Hawks only beat Crows by 29 in Rd 12 (when Crows were not playing nearly as well) and these two teams' recent history has margins of close to or less than 22. Crows playing with momentum, confidence and energy, Hawks seem to have more hesitancy and less confidence/belief in themselves. Perhaps most importantly, it feels like the Crows want it more, and Hawks aren't quite as committed to these finals (last week's display a prime example). Finally, Crows have more talent.. Hope to hear from others on their thoughts here as I keep flipping side/side.

    Sydney v. North Melbourne
    Swans put on a gallant display last week, and brought all of the gusto that I feared had gone for good this season (and bet accordingly, lol). However, one more man out for this week. Still, they should be favored due to overall talent and experience. But I like the Roos as 10.5 dogs and will play that one here. Momentum, desire, belief, energy, rest are all in their favor. ANZ stadium isn't exactly "home" for the Swans either. Finally, not having an effective forward attack can be exploited with planning, and I think it will be here. Roos pull the "upset".
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    m having difficulties getting a feel for these match-ups, too. Although I lean Roos to win, so will likely take them as a dog.

    Cursory thoughts to date for me...

    Hawthorn v. Adelaide
    Hawks will win this, but boy does 22+ make me uneasy with this team. On the one hand, they haven't gone consecutive weeks with a loss in the ATS column. Crows are 5 straight ATS wins, which indicates a fall back in the near future. Hawks have more experience, and will bring the (notably much-less-reliable of late) focus needed to win by a few goals or more imo. Also, Tin has them winning by 29 pts, which is the "magic" margin historically for a high percentage of win chance. On the other hand, Hawks only beat Crows by 29 in Rd 12 (when Crows were not playing nearly as well) and these two teams' recent history has margins of close to or less than 22. Crows playing with momentum, confidence and energy, Hawks seem to have more hesitancy and less confidence/belief in themselves. Perhaps most importantly, it feels like the Crows want it more, and Hawks aren't quite as committed to these finals (last week's display a prime example). Finally, Crows have more talent.. Hope to hear from others on their thoughts here as I keep flipping side/side.

    Sydney v. North Melbourne
    Swans put on a gallant display last week, and brought all of the gusto that I feared had gone for good this season (and bet accordingly, lol). However, one more man out for this week. Still, they should be favored due to overall talent and experience. But I like the Roos as 10.5 dogs and will play that one here. Momentum, desire, belief, energy, rest are all in their favor. ANZ stadium isn't exactly "home" for the Swans either. Finally, not having an effective forward attack can be exploited with planning, and I think it will be here. Roos pull the "upset".
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2015 - 4:20 AM ET #2

    You did that on purpose to spite me



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    You did that on purpose to spite me



     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2015 - 4:44 AM ET #3

    Hawks and Roos for me
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    Hawks and Roos for me
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2015 - 5:05 AM ET #4

    Lol ;-)
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    Lol ;-)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2015 - 9:32 PM ET #5

    Sydney/North is difficult. I don't like either team from a betting perspective.
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    Sydney/North is difficult. I don't like either team from a betting perspective.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2015 - 6:39 PM ET #6

    I heard on news yesterday it's not definitive Kieran Jack doesn't play.

    Also, only 1/3 of seats sold at anz stadium, lol... shame they can't have it at SCG
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    I heard on news yesterday it's not definitive Kieran Jack doesn't play.

    Also, only 1/3 of seats sold at anz stadium, lol... shame they can't have it at SCG
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2015 - 9:24 PM ET #7

    Will be a quiet crowd. 3 of the 4 north supporters might show up.
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    Will be a quiet crowd. 3 of the 4 north supporters might show up.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2015 - 3:55 AM ET #8

    Hemmed and hawed, but it's done now:

    Hawks -24.5

    BOL fellas.

    Also, will next week's games be evening ones froli and sat, too?
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    Hemmed and hawed, but it's done now:

    Hawks -24.5

    BOL fellas.

    Also, will next week's games be evening ones froli and sat, too?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2015 - 9:23 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Erich777:

    Hemmed and hawed, but it's done now:

    Hawks -24.5

    BOL fellas.

    Also, will next week's games be evening ones froli and sat, too?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich777:

    Hemmed and hawed, but it's done now:

    Hawks -24.5

    BOL fellas.

    Also, will next week's games be evening ones froli and sat, too?

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2015 - 9:24 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by peekay89:

    Hawks and Roos for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by peekay89:

    Hawks and Roos for me

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2015 - 9:44 AM ET #11

    Stinker of a game. Poor fam be depressed lol.
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    Stinker of a game. Poor fam be depressed lol.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2015 - 9:47 AM ET #12

    Drinks on us Sport! ;) Go Roos!!! :)
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    Drinks on us Sport! ;) Go Roos!!! :)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2015 - 10:49 AM ET #13

    Over 160.5 looks alright too
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    Over 160.5 looks alright too
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2015 - 11:21 PM ET #14

    Roos +9.5
    Roos ML
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    Roos +9.5
    Roos ML
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2015 - 1:12 AM ET #15

    Since 200, only four teams who finished 5th through 8th on the ladder made it through the Prelims.

    Four from 30.

    Swans handled North well in June.

    I was barracking the Roos last round as I thought we matched up better against them.  Glad they won.

    Line is 10.5 but my book is offering Swans -0.5 at 1.83.

    I want to empty the house on this pisstake line.  10.5 is fair.  0.5 is a pisstake.



    It was all so much easier to figure out me Swannies when Buddy was in the side.
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    Since 200, only four teams who finished 5th through 8th on the ladder made it through the Prelims.

    Four from 30.

    Swans handled North well in June.

    I was barracking the Roos last round as I thought we matched up better against them.  Glad they won.

    Line is 10.5 but my book is offering Swans -0.5 at 1.83.

    I want to empty the house on this pisstake line.  10.5 is fair.  0.5 is a pisstake.



    It was all so much easier to figure out me Swannies when Buddy was in the side.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2015 - 1:16 AM ET #16

    Then again I wanted to unload the house on me Chookins against the Storm last weekend and would've been taken to the baths.

    Then they come out against the Doggies looking like a wrecking ball.


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    Then again I wanted to unload the house on me Chookins against the Storm last weekend and would've been taken to the baths.

    Then they come out against the Doggies looking like a wrecking ball.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2015 - 6:12 AM ET #17

    Roos are pathetic from set shots on goal... you wonder how much they practice for effs sake
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    Roos are pathetic from set shots on goal... you wonder how much they practice for effs sake
     
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    Glad I laid off.  Swans battered by injuries and there is only so many times in-a-row you can beat the same side.

    Plus, my book offering a pick 'em at the same odds as everyone is offering on the line was suspicious as hell.

    Didn't make watching the game any more enjoyable though.  Roos deserve where they're at and I hope they make some noise in September.
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    Glad I laid off.  Swans battered by injuries and there is only so many times in-a-row you can beat the same side.

    Plus, my book offering a pick 'em at the same odds as everyone is offering on the line was suspicious as hell.

    Didn't make watching the game any more enjoyable though.  Roos deserve where they're at and I hope they make some noise in September.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 1:52 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by peekay89:

    Hawks and Roos for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by peekay89:

    Hawks and Roos for me

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:34 PM ET #20

    Agreed that Roos are playing better these days, and deserve to be in the finals. Like the team now they playbmore consistently and with resolve/focus. But man, they and the swans missed some easy goals.

    They aren't in the same league with other 3 teams tho and will get smashed for it.
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    Agreed that Roos are playing better these days, and deserve to be in the finals. Like the team now they playbmore consistently and with resolve/focus. But man, they and the swans missed some easy goals.

    They aren't in the same league with other 3 teams tho and will get smashed for it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2015 - 7:00 AM ET #21

    Interesting... model came out today and says Eagles match priced right... and slightest bit of value on Dockers... liking Hawks line more and more for the moment, and will likely play a 1Q or 1H Eagles line...
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    Interesting... model came out today and says Eagles match priced right... and slightest bit of value on Dockers... liking Hawks line more and more for the moment, and will likely play a 1Q or 1H Eagles line...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2015 - 9:24 AM ET #22

    Tell me about this model of yours.
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    Tell me about this model of yours.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2015 - 8:16 AM ET #23

    Must be top secret
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    Must be top secret
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2015 - 8:22 AM ET #24

    Sorry mate, crazy at work this week. A maths professor out west does it. Cost bit over 300 to get the output. Basically tries to identify where bookies are mis-priced. Has a good history in finals with predicted margins > 2 goals (if mis priced). Has served as a reference point.
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    Sorry mate, crazy at work this week. A maths professor out west does it. Cost bit over 300 to get the output. Basically tries to identify where bookies are mis-priced. Has a good history in finals with predicted margins > 2 goals (if mis priced). Has served as a reference point.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich777:

    Sorry mate, crazy at work this week. A maths professor out west does it. Cost bit over 300 to get the output. Basically tries to identify where bookies are mis-priced. Has a good history in finals with predicted margins > 2 goals (if mis priced). Has served as a reference point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich777:

    Sorry mate, crazy at work this week. A maths professor out west does it. Cost bit over 300 to get the output. Basically tries to identify where bookies are mis-priced. Has a good history in finals with predicted margins > 2 goals (if mis priced). Has served as a reference point.


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